| IVOD_ID |
169818 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169818 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-26-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-03T14:00:07+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-03T14:09:41+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:34 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5329b193fad04125106f213350aec98e5efbe1c17d8a01995afdee7ccfdb80310c81ff874c24f3695ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:00:07 - 14:09:41 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：(6月3日上午9時起)
一、審查「性別平等工作法」修正草案等100案。
(一)委員范雲等17人擬具「性別平等工作法部分條文修正草案」案。
(二)委員郭昱晴等17人擬具「性別平等工作法第十五條條文修正草案」案。
(三)委員萬美玲等35人擬具「性別平等工作法第十五條條文修正草案」案。
(四)委員黃秀芳等18人擬具「性別平等工作法第十五條條文修正草案」案。
(五)委員黃健豪等21人擬具「性別平等工作法第二十條條文修正草案」案。
(六)委員黃健豪等21人擬具「性別平等工作法第十九條之一及第二十一條條文修正草案」案。
(七)委員李彥秀等22人擬具「性別平等工作法第十五條條文修正草案」案。
(八)委員許智傑等25人擬具「性別平等工作法第二十條條文修正草案」案。
(九)委員吳宗憲等16人擬具「性別平等工作法第十四條條文修正草案」案。
(十)委員吳宗憲等17人擬具「性別平等工作法第十五條條文修正草案」案。
......(因系統字數上限，詳見議事日程)
二、審查「就業保險法」修正草案等88案。
(一)委員謝衣鳯等19人擬具「就業保險法第十條、第十一條及第十九條之三條文修正草案」案。
(二)委員范雲等17人擬具「就業保險法第十一條及第十九條之二條文修正草案」案。
(三)委員許宇甄等22人擬具「就業保險法第十一條條文修正草案」案。
(四)委員邱鎮軍等20人擬具「就業保險法第十一條條文修正草案」案。
(五)委員謝衣鳯等17人擬具「就業保險法第十四條條文修正草案」案。
(六)委員黃健豪等20人擬具「就業保險法第十條、第十一條及第十九條之三條文修正草案」案。
(七)委員林淑芬等23人擬具「就業保險法第十一條及第十九條之三條文修正草案」案。
(八)委員徐欣瑩等20人擬具「就業保險法第十九條之二條文修正草案」案。
(九)委員涂權吉等16人擬具「就業保險法第十條、第十一條及第十九條之二條文修正草案」案。
(十)委員王育敏等18人擬具「就業保險法部分條文修正草案」案。
......(因系統字數上限，詳見議事日程)
【綜合詢答，僅詢答】
【第一（一○○）案及第二（八十八）案，如經復議則不予審查】
(6月3日下午2時30分起)
(6月3日若上午議程尚未結束，待結束後接續召開)
一、繼續審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案關於勞動部主管預算。(公務及非營業特種基金預算案)。
二、繼續審查勞動部函送財團法人職業災害預防及重建中心115年度預算書案。
【6月3日、6月4日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 麻煩請部長有請洪部長請問完 |
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部長好先前本席執行的時候有提到就是在勞動部職貸中心被法院認定被葉秀珊霸凌的Mandy在今年初接受媒體採訪露出之後最終還是被你們的李前執行長逼走了 |
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那在他離開旨在中心之前他放了一份離職公告在中心的這個LINE的這個大群組裡面那我怕就是不知道部長可能沒有看到所以我在這邊唸給部長聽喔 |
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他的title我不是离开职场只是从灾害现场撤离在正式离开前我必须留下这份真相当初我申诉主管霸凌经调查成立该主管已受惩处虽然他还有脸跟中心要求领取非自愿离职且如愿但我万万没想到 |
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一個宣稱預防職災的專責單位內部竟展開了一場針對發生者的集體報復最初接獲申訴時何前執行長曾言該位主管處理上有其壓力弄不好他也會下台但他不允許任何同仁在其任內受到霸凌如今回頭看前執行長的正職成了這家單位最後的良心而他的擔憂也成了事實 |
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不曉得面臨何等的惡勢力迫使其無欲儆離職細思疾恐 |
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一 惡意羅織罪名上演關關相護我引用中興正式公告提醒任用單位建議評估霸凌者是否釋認調查小組卻無視各司法中關於公共利益的豁免強行羅織罪名在人評會上前主管的心腹經理更帶頭主張忌大過 |
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一个到处霸凌的惯犯被记晓过一个揭发真相的人竟然也要被记晓过这种把公权力当成私人报复工具的行为让人领教了中兴最真实的恶甚至有心腹放话要对我进行针对性的报复与威胁这就是中兴所谓的职场安全二崩坏的保密机制被出卖的伙伴 |
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中心口口声声说保护证人结果却让资料精准外泄当初签署的保密协议成了陷阱中心任由恶意诉讼延烧到保护者身上由于发生的证人以及秉持专业的外部专家皆因资料外泄遭起诉并被前主管阿卡巴林冠犯 |
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求償巨額款項連證人與專家都保護不了的單位有什麼資格談尊嚴三撤離災害現場我選擇離開是因為我不願與一群晦氣成性清算正職者為人清算正職者的人為伍這裡不願 |
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呃 |
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我想是這樣齁這位被法院再次判定霸凌案成立的葉秀珊呢在她霸凌別人的這個期間好2025年的9月她出書了在她的這個撰寫的這個書籍裡面的第5章有教大家如何防制霸凌那再來被霸凌的Mandy她離職了還有 |
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剛剛在裡面有特別提到了其中按照指引將這個葉秀珊調離主管職接受調查的何前執行長他也因此得罪了葉秀珊的靠山那他也因故被迫離職了 |
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那我不太清楚就是說到底上次有特別請部長再特別回頭去調查了解因為本席完全無法理解就是說像葉修山這樣子他的底氣到底來自於哪裡他怎麼樣他為什麼有這樣子的底氣可以這麼囂張這麼無懼無恐 |
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所以我想這個是部長希望你可以回頭好好調查了解的事情因為在這個被判定霸凌的這位葉秀珊的後面到底是誰如此的支持她好這樣子真正也是跟這個霸凌案有相關的這個幕後的黑手是不是還真有其人部長可以好好的再回去調查了解一下 |
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個人說明第一個去年有幾位在法人霸凌的申訴案基本上我們都是要求要依法依程序來做調查如果調查出來有霸凌成立的狀況那不適任的話基本上在去年我們都請這幾位主管把他請離了 |
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那這裡面當然涉及到一些個案也涉及到一些個資我不一定適合在國會的殿堂上面拿出來來細講但是我只能說這些相關的案件有申訴的有被申訴的我們都是要求依法依規調查處置有成立的不適應的狀況我們就把他請離 |
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我想我很高興聽到部長說要依法依規那但是依規依指引去處理調查的人也受到不公平的待遇他自己請辭啊你為什麼我都說他被迫被迫請辭 |
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他為什麼要自己請辭 他好端端為什麼要自己請辭我想這個是部長你要回去好好瞭解的地方我今天時間有限 我不在這裡跟你們探討這個問題我只是做提醒 如果部長只是說因為他自己請辭了 |
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好啊那所以我想說的說這裡面涉及到一些個案性的細節每一個人涉及到一些個案性我不適合在我沒有要在這裡討論我不適合在這邊討論我沒有要在這裡再討論其他的細節我就說部長有些事情你要回去好好瞭解是 |
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我只是做这样善意的就是每一个申诉案我们都要求一法一规调查处对如此而已那我不希望部长被很多事情蒙蔽我只是在这里很诚实的做一些善意的提出我也没有恶意那我想我们可以进入下一个质询的问题吗 |
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我們就這個就業保險法跟性別平等工作法的修正草案對於這個性工法的修正主要是要支持受僱者提高產假及育兒留職停薪的相關補助這裡面有一些是涉及到配偶申請的權利我想要先請教部長將來這個外籍勞工所生下的嬰兒育兒留停今天嬰兒的父親有沒有資格申請 |
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第一個是這個外籍的如果外籍的移工的話他其實是不適用救保法的所以他就沒有這個警惕就是現在的那個專法各位報告 |
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我們的救保法原則上是本國人跟外配都可以參加另外就是我們的就是外國專業人才延攬及僱用法的25條也讓這一些特殊的這個特定的專業人才可以參加就業保險那未來他參加就業保險就可以依法令給付但如果是剛剛委員講如果是移工的話那就沒有 |
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好那我想那個移工的部分他們沒有辦法申請所以他也不會有就是嬰兒的父親有沒有資格申請的問題就他就不是參與救保的對象好所以那個那育兒留庭今天也因為育兒留庭今天就是來自救護保險也就都沒有對好那我想就確認這個問題好謝謝謝謝 |