| IVOD_ID |
169818 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169818 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-26-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-03T14:00:07+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-03T14:09:41+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:34 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5329b193fad04125106f213350aec98e5efbe1c17d8a01995afdee7ccfdb80310c81ff874c24f3695ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:00:07 - 14:09:41 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：(6月3日上午9時起)
一、審查「性別平等工作法」修正草案等100案。
(一)委員范雲等17人擬具「性別平等工作法部分條文修正草案」案。
(二)委員郭昱晴等17人擬具「性別平等工作法第十五條條文修正草案」案。
(三)委員萬美玲等35人擬具「性別平等工作法第十五條條文修正草案」案。
(四)委員黃秀芳等18人擬具「性別平等工作法第十五條條文修正草案」案。
(五)委員黃健豪等21人擬具「性別平等工作法第二十條條文修正草案」案。
(六)委員黃健豪等21人擬具「性別平等工作法第十九條之一及第二十一條條文修正草案」案。
(七)委員李彥秀等22人擬具「性別平等工作法第十五條條文修正草案」案。
(八)委員許智傑等25人擬具「性別平等工作法第二十條條文修正草案」案。
(九)委員吳宗憲等16人擬具「性別平等工作法第十四條條文修正草案」案。
(十)委員吳宗憲等17人擬具「性別平等工作法第十五條條文修正草案」案。
......(因系統字數上限，詳見議事日程)
二、審查「就業保險法」修正草案等88案。
(一)委員謝衣鳯等19人擬具「就業保險法第十條、第十一條及第十九條之三條文修正草案」案。
(二)委員范雲等17人擬具「就業保險法第十一條及第十九條之二條文修正草案」案。
(三)委員許宇甄等22人擬具「就業保險法第十一條條文修正草案」案。
(四)委員邱鎮軍等20人擬具「就業保險法第十一條條文修正草案」案。
(五)委員謝衣鳯等17人擬具「就業保險法第十四條條文修正草案」案。
(六)委員黃健豪等20人擬具「就業保險法第十條、第十一條及第十九條之三條文修正草案」案。
(七)委員林淑芬等23人擬具「就業保險法第十一條及第十九條之三條文修正草案」案。
(八)委員徐欣瑩等20人擬具「就業保險法第十九條之二條文修正草案」案。
(九)委員涂權吉等16人擬具「就業保險法第十條、第十一條及第十九條之二條文修正草案」案。
(十)委員王育敏等18人擬具「就業保險法部分條文修正草案」案。
......(因系統字數上限，詳見議事日程)
【綜合詢答，僅詢答】
【第一（一○○）案及第二（八十八）案，如經復議則不予審查】
(6月3日下午2時30分起)
(6月3日若上午議程尚未結束，待結束後接續召開)
一、繼續審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案關於勞動部主管預算。(公務及非營業特種基金預算案)。
二、繼續審查勞動部函送財團法人職業災害預防及重建中心115年度預算書案。
【6月3日、6月4日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 麻煩請部長有請洪部長請問完 |
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部長好先前本席執行的時候有提到就是在勞動部職貸中心被法院認定被葉秀珊霸凌的Mandy在今年初接受媒體採訪露出之後最終還是被你們的李前執行長逼走了 |
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那在他離開旨在中心之前他放了一份離職公告在中心的這個LINE的這個大群組裡面那我怕就是不知道部長可能沒有看到所以我在這邊唸給部長聽喔 |
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他的title我不是离开职场只是从灾害现场撤离在正式离开前我必须留下这份真相当初我申诉主管霸凌经调查成立该主管已受惩处虽然他还有脸跟中心要求领取非自愿离职且如愿但我万万没想到 |
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一個宣稱預防職災的專責單位內部竟展開了一場針對發生者的集體報復最初接獲申訴時何前執行長曾言該位主管處理上有其壓力弄不好他也會下台但他不允許任何同仁在其任內受到霸凌如今回頭看前執行長的正職成了這家單位最後的良心而他的擔憂也成了事實 |
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不曉得面臨何等的惡勢力迫使其無欲儆離職細思疾恐 |
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一 惡意羅織罪名上演關關相護我引用中興正式公告提醒任用單位建議評估霸凌者是否釋認調查小組卻無視各司法中關於公共利益的豁免強行羅織罪名在人評會上前主管的心腹經理更帶頭主張忌大過 |
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一个到处霸凌的惯犯被记晓过一个揭发真相的人竟然也要被记晓过这种把公权力当成私人报复工具的行为让人领教了中兴最真实的恶甚至有心腹放话要对我进行针对性的报复与威胁这就是中兴所谓的职场安全二崩坏的保密机制被出卖的伙伴 |
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中心口口声声说保护证人结果却让资料精准外泄当初签署的保密协议成了陷阱中心任由恶意诉讼延烧到保护者身上由于发生的证人以及秉持专业的外部专家皆因资料外泄遭起诉并被前主管阿卡巴林冠犯 |
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求償巨額款項連證人與專家都保護不了的單位有什麼資格談尊嚴三撤離災害現場我選擇離開是因為我不願與一群晦氣成性清算正職者為人清算正職者的人為伍這裡不願 |
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呃 |
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我想是這樣齁這位被法院再次判定霸凌案成立的葉秀珊呢在她霸凌別人的這個期間好2025年的9月她出書了在她的這個撰寫的這個書籍裡面的第5章有教大家如何防制霸凌那再來被霸凌的Mandy她離職了還有 |
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剛剛在裡面有特別提到了其中按照指引將這個葉秀珊調離主管職接受調查的何前執行長他也因此得罪了葉秀珊的靠山那他也因故被迫離職了 |
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那我不太清楚就是說到底上次有特別請部長再特別回頭去調查了解因為本席完全無法理解就是說像葉修山這樣子他的底氣到底來自於哪裡他怎麼樣他為什麼有這樣子的底氣可以這麼囂張這麼無懼無恐 |
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所以我想這個是部長希望你可以回頭好好調查了解的事情因為在這個被判定霸凌的這位葉秀珊的後面到底是誰如此的支持她好這樣子真正也是跟這個霸凌案有相關的這個幕後的黑手是不是還真有其人部長可以好好的再回去調查了解一下 |
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個人說明第一個去年有幾位在法人霸凌的申訴案基本上我們都是要求要依法依程序來做調查如果調查出來有霸凌成立的狀況那不適任的話基本上在去年我們都請這幾位主管把他請離了 |
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那這裡面當然涉及到一些個案也涉及到一些個資我不一定適合在國會的殿堂上面拿出來來細講但是我只能說這些相關的案件有申訴的有被申訴的我們都是要求依法依規調查處置有成立的不適應的狀況我們就把他請離 |
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我想我很高興聽到部長說要依法依規那但是依規依指引去處理調查的人也受到不公平的待遇他自己請辭啊你為什麼我都說他被迫被迫請辭 |
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他為什麼要自己請辭 他好端端為什麼要自己請辭我想這個是部長你要回去好好瞭解的地方我今天時間有限 我不在這裡跟你們探討這個問題我只是做提醒 如果部長只是說因為他自己請辭了 |
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好啊那所以我想說的說這裡面涉及到一些個案性的細節每一個人涉及到一些個案性我不適合在我沒有要在這裡討論我不適合在這邊討論我沒有要在這裡再討論其他的細節我就說部長有些事情你要回去好好瞭解是 |
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我只是做这样善意的就是每一个申诉案我们都要求一法一规调查处对如此而已那我不希望部长被很多事情蒙蔽我只是在这里很诚实的做一些善意的提出我也没有恶意那我想我们可以进入下一个质询的问题吗 |
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我們就這個就業保險法跟性別平等工作法的修正草案對於這個性工法的修正主要是要支持受僱者提高產假及育兒留職停薪的相關補助這裡面有一些是涉及到配偶申請的權利我想要先請教部長將來這個外籍勞工所生下的嬰兒育兒留停今天嬰兒的父親有沒有資格申請 |
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第一個是這個外籍的如果外籍的移工的話他其實是不適用救保法的所以他就沒有這個警惕就是現在的那個專法各位報告 |
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我們的救保法原則上是本國人跟外配都可以參加另外就是我們的就是外國專業人才延攬及僱用法的25條也讓這一些特殊的這個特定的專業人才可以參加就業保險那未來他參加就業保險就可以依法令給付但如果是剛剛委員講如果是移工的話那就沒有 |
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好那我想那個移工的部分他們沒有辦法申請所以他也不會有就是嬰兒的父親有沒有資格申請的問題就他就不是參與救保的對象好所以那個那育兒留庭今天也因為育兒留庭今天就是來自救護保險也就都沒有對好那我想就確認這個問題好謝謝謝謝 |
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陳委員瑩 |
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（14時）謝謝主席，麻煩請部長。 |
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主席 |
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有請洪部長。 |
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洪部長申翰 |
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陳委員午安。 |
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陳委員瑩 |
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部長好。 |
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陳委員瑩 |
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先前本席質詢的時候有提到，在勞動部職災中心被法院認定被葉琇姍霸凌的Mandy，在今年初接受媒體採訪露出之後，最終還是被你們的李前執行長逼走了，在離開職災中心之前，他放了一份離職公告在中心的LINE大群組裡面，部長可能沒有看到，所以我在這邊唸給部長聽。 |
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它的title是：我不是離開職場，只是從災害現場撤離。 |
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陳委員瑩 |
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內容是：在正式離開前，我必須留下這份真相，當初我申訴主管霸凌經調查成立，該主管已受懲處，雖然他還有臉跟中心要求領取非自願離職且如願，但我萬萬沒想到，一個宣稱預防職災的專責單位內部竟展開了一場針對發聲者的集體報復，最初接獲申訴時，何前執行長曾言該位主管處理上有其壓力，弄不好他也會下臺，但他不允許任何同仁在其任內受到霸凌，如今回頭看，前執行長的正直成了這家單位最後的良心，而他的擔憂也成了事實，不曉得面臨何等的惡勢力迫使其無預警離職，細思極恐。 |
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一、惡意羅織罪名，上演官官相護：我引用中心正式公告提醒任用單位，建議評估霸凌者是否適任，調查小組卻無視個資法中關於公共利益的豁免，強行羅織罪名，在人評會上前主管的心腹──經理更帶頭主張記大過，一個到處霸凌的慣犯被記小過，一個揭發真相的人竟然也要被記小過，這種把公權力當成私人報復工具的行為讓人領教了中心最真實的惡，甚至有心腹放話要對我進行針對性的報復與威脅，這就是中心所謂的職場安全。 |
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陳委員瑩 |
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二、崩壞的保密機制，被出賣的夥伴：中心口口聲聲說保護證人，結果卻讓資料精準外洩，當初簽署的保密協議成了陷阱，中心任由惡意訴訟延燒到保護者身上，勇於發聲的證人以及秉持專業的外部專家，皆因資料外洩遭起訴並被前主管（霸凌慣犯）求償巨額款項，連證人與專家都保護不了的單位有什麼資格談尊嚴？ |
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陳委員瑩 |
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三、撤離災害現場：我選擇離開，是因為我不願與一群毀棄誠信、清算正直者的人為伍，這裡不預防職災，這裡只會製造職災，我撤離了，祝各位平安，也好自為之，請記住沉默不是保護，而是讓真相窒息，願所有願意說真話的人都不必再為正義支付代價。 |
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陳委員瑩 |
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我想是這樣，這位被法院再次判定霸凌案成立的葉琇姍，在他霸凌別人的期間，2025年9月他出書了，在他撰寫的書籍第五章有教大家如何防治霸凌，再來，被霸凌的Mandy離職了，還有剛剛在裡面有特別提到了，其中按照指引將葉琇姍調離主管職，接受調查的何前執行長，他也因此得罪了葉琇姍的靠山，因故被迫離職了。 |
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陳委員瑩 |
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我不太清楚，上次有特別請部長再特別回頭去調查了解，因為本席完全無法理解像葉琇姍這樣子，他的底氣到底來自於哪裡？ |
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陳委員瑩 |
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他為什麼有這樣子的底氣可以這麼囂張、這麼無懼無恐？ |
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這是我希望部長可以回頭好好調查、了解的事情，在被判定霸凌的這位葉琇姍的後面，到底是誰如此的支持他？ |
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也是跟這個霸凌案有相關的幕後黑手，是不是還真有其人？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
陳委員瑩 |
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2026-06-03T14:05:53.187000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-06-03T14:05:56.528000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
部長可以好好的再回去調查、了解一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
洪部長申翰 |
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2026-06-03T14:05:58.419000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-06-03T14:06:55.530000+08:00 |
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跟委員說明，第一個，去年有幾位在法人霸凌的申訴案，基本上我們都是要求要依法、依程序來做調查，如果調查出來有霸凌成立的狀況，不適任的話，基本上在去年我們都把這幾位主管請離了，這裡面當然涉及到一些個案，也涉及到一些個資，我不一定適合在國會的殿堂上面拿出來細講，但是我只能說這些相關的案件有申訴的、有被申訴的，我們都是要求依法、依規調查處置，有成立的、不適任的狀況，我們就把他請離。 |
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0.971 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
陳委員瑩 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:00.125000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:10.277000+08:00 |
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我很高興聽到部長說要依法、依規，但是依規、依指引去處理、調查的人也受到不公平的待遇，甚至…… |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.949 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
洪部長申翰 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:10.897000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:11.899000+08:00 |
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他自己請辭了。 |
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0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
陳委員瑩 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:13.721000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:18.346000+08:00 |
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我說他是被迫請辭，他為什麼要自己請辭？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
陳委員瑩 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:18.346000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:21.089000+08:00 |
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他好端端的為什麼要自己請辭？ |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
陳委員瑩 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:21.089000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:35.725000+08:00 |
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我想這個是部長要回去好好了解的地方，今天時間有限，我不在這裡跟你們探討這個問題，我只是做提醒，如果部長只是說因為他自己請辭了，好啊！所以…… |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.984 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
洪部長申翰 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:35.885000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:42.190000+08:00 |
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委員，我想因為這裡面涉及到一些個案性的細節，每一個人涉及到一些個案性的細節，我不適合在…… |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.825 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
陳委員瑩 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:42.390000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:43.992000+08:00 |
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所以我沒有要在這裡討論…… |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
洪部長申翰 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:43.992000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:44.612000+08:00 |
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我不適合在這邊討論細節。 |
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0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
陳委員瑩 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:44.612000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:51.538000+08:00 |
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我沒有要在這裡再討論其他的細節，我就是跟部長說有些事情你要回去好好了解。是。 |
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0.886 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
陳委員瑩 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:52.373000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:58.721000+08:00 |
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我只是做這樣善意的提醒，如此而已。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.733 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
洪部長申翰 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-06-03T14:07:58.721000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
1 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:59.721000+08:00 |
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每一個申訴案我們都要求依法、依規調查、處理。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
陳委員瑩 |
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2026-06-03T14:07:59.101000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T14:08:04.748000+08:00 |
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對，如此而已，我不希望部長被很多事情蒙蔽，我只是在這裡很誠實的做一些善意的提醒。 |
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0.694 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
洪部長申翰 |
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2026-06-03T14:08:04.748000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-06-03T14:08:05.748000+08:00 |
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是，謝謝委員。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
陳委員瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-06-03T14:08:05.309000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T14:08:08.573000+08:00 |
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我也沒有惡意，那我想我們可以進入下一個質詢的議題。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.609 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
陳委員瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-06-03T14:08:10.334000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T14:08:35.205000+08:00 |
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我們就就業保險法跟性別平等工作法的修正草案，對於性工法的修正，主要是要支持受雇者提高產假及育兒留職停薪的相關補助，這裡面有一些是涉及到配偶申請的權利，我想要先請教部長，將來外籍勞工所生下的嬰兒，嬰兒的父親有沒有資格申請育兒留停津貼？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.936 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
洪部長申翰 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-06-03T14:08:37.438000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-06-03T14:08:46.769000+08:00 |
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第一個，如果是外籍的移工的話，他其實是不適用就保法的，所以他就沒有這個津貼。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
陳司長美女 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-06-03T14:08:51.515000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T14:09:11.406000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，我們的就保法原則上是本國人跟外配都可以參加，另外就是外國專業人才延攬及僱用法第二十五條也讓這些特殊的、特定的專業人才可以參加就業保險，未來他參加就業保險就可以依法令給付。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.907 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
洪部長申翰 |
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2026-06-03T14:09:12.107000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T14:09:15.948000+08:00 |
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但如果是剛剛委員講的移工的話，那就沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
陳委員瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-06-03T14:09:16.821000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T14:09:28.110000+08:00 |
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好，移工沒有辦法申請，所以也不會有嬰兒的父親有沒有資格申請的問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
洪部長申翰 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-06-03T14:09:28.270000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T14:09:30.852000+08:00 |
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他就不是參與就保的對象。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
陳委員瑩 |
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2026-06-03T14:09:31.233000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T14:09:33.875000+08:00 |
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好，那育兒留停津貼也…… |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
洪部長申翰 |
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2026-06-03T14:09:34.756000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T14:09:36.377000+08:00 |
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因為育兒留停津貼就是來自就業保險。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.688 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
陳委員瑩 |
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2026-06-03T14:09:36.377000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T14:09:38.278000+08:00 |
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也就都沒有，好，我是想確認這個問題，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
洪部長申翰 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-06-03T14:09:38.298000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T14:09:38.298000+08:00 |
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是，謝謝。 |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
主席 |
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2026-06-03T14:09:38.798000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-06-03T14:09:41.083714+08:00 |
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謝謝陳瑩委員發言。 |
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0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
主席 |
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2026-06-03T14:09:41.383714+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-06-03T14:09:43.955143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
第一、說明及詢答完畢。 |
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0 |
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主席 |
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2026-06-03T14:09:44.255143+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-06-03T14:09:56.826571+08:00 |
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第二、委員質詢未及答復或請補充資料者，請相關機關於兩週內以書面答復，委員另有要求期限者，從其所定。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0 |
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主席 |
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2026-06-03T14:09:57.126571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
1 |
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2026-06-03T14:10:05.983714+08:00 |
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三、委員黃捷、吳宗憲、牛煦庭、吳沛憶、涂權吉所提書面質詢，列入紀錄，刊登公報。 |
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0 |