| IVOD_ID |
169804 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169804 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-03T12:24:21+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-03T12:39:32+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:11 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5329b193fad041253b50e1679208b151cf886063649796cbb79257defbd0e8ffab895d7d41794bf65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
徐欣瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:24:21 - 12:39:32 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
(變更議程)立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請內政部部長、警政署署長、交通部部長、經濟部部長就「我國測速照相設備設置標準、執行成效及調整不合理執法點位精進作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢。二、邀請內政部部長、海洋委員會主任委員、法務部部長、交通部部長、教育部部長、衛生福利部部長、數位發展部部長、財政部關務署署長就「因應新興毒品氾濫導致毒駕案件飆升，如何強化執法量能及防制策略」進行專題報告，並備質詢。三、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於警政署及所屬、中央警察大學、消防署及所屬、移民署、空中勤務總隊部分。四、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於直轄市及縣市政府一般性補助款消防署及所屬、移民署、警政署及所屬部分。五、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於內政部主管特別收入基金—新住民發展基金、警察消防海巡移民空勤人員及協勤民力安全基金。六、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於內政部主管信託基金—在校學生獎學基金、劉竹琛先生警察子女獎學基金、誠園獎學基金。七、審查內政部函送財團法人臺灣省義勇人員安全濟助基金會、財團法人警察學術研究基金會、財團法人義勇消防人員安全濟助基金會等3家財團法人115年度預算書案。【警政署、消防署之部分預算另定期以秘密會議進行審查】【預算審查僅詢答；相關預算提案於115年6月15日(星期一)中午12時前截止收件。】） |
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主席 本席先請我們交通部這個陳次長以及我們公路局的林副局長 |
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委員好次長還有副局長我今天非常沉重站在這裡剛剛有通過的臨時提案我不知道次長知不知道我想副局長您應該很清楚這個一節科技 |
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他這個承攬了交通部 協助了好幾個縣市的這個公路運輸 就客運長期發生臨時的拖班 任意的減班 停駛的這種情況次長我先請教您啊 現在次長應該是有公務車吧 |
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有公務車每天上下班應該是有公務車接送您吧是那我請教您您如果這個公務車他說不來就不來然後常常給您遲到你交通委員會或內政委員會他常常讓你九點半到你有可能容忍嗎你回答我應該是無法接受的無法接受那你們知道一節科技 |
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它不是昨天發生也不是今年才發生一年多了結果我們交通部完全沒有作為所以我們新竹縣的鄉親還有相關路線的各縣市的鄉親他等不到的不是公車他等不到的是沒有願意負責任的政府 |
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今天很多學生站在公車站牌下他都不知道車會不會來他要上學不知道車會不會來上班族也是不知道會不會遲到被扣薪水那很多的長輩站在站牌下他不知道他能不能趕上他的回診 |
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這時候我們交通部在做什麼我們交通部只會開會開會再開會這就是人民最憤怒的地方我們人民的生活被打亂但是官員呢一整天的工作只有把責任往後推一兩年了完全沒有解決所以 |
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這個一節的問題 主管機關早就知道 價值不足 班次異常也知道民眾大量的陳情 更知道營運風險持續存在可是問題是 一路惡化到今天 從113年 到114年 到現在115年 |
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所以這個答案只有一個有人失職而且不是一天的失職是長期的失職是系統性的失職也是整個監理體系的失職所以次長請教公路法第47條47條是寫假的嗎法律明明給了主管機關完整的工具限期改善 |
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你可以停止部分營業你可以停止全部營業你可以廢止執照結果交通部做了什麼法律給你手術刀你交通部只會用棉花棒人民看到的不是你的執法是你的縱容是你的放任次長請你回答我們現在一節科技的問題怎麼辦 |
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我想應該是感謝委員就這個問題提出這麼一個很嚴厲的一個質詢我想這樣的一個問題在站在交通部基於這個道路或者是汽車運輸業的植物管機關來講我們是無法容忍的所以這一部分呢無法容忍為什麼長期發生這個事所以我要跟委員報告六月初才剛又再次託班 |
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五月反映四月反映都沒有用而且一百一十四年就這個問題了一百一十五年還這樣所以本部會則由這個公路局確實去查明然後並依照剛才講的公路法47條或77條其實有很多的法令可以對這個業者予以處分那而且要針對這家業者可能要專案來督導所以 |
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市長也認同一定有人失職然後你們長期失職的結果就給人民來承擔這個痛苦的後果我想在督導面可能要做一些檢討那你們有沒有備援能力嘛譬如他駕駛臨時怎麼樣請駕他可以兩手一攤說我沒有我駕駛我缺駕駛 |
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那你們沒有備援的方案嗎還有這個廠商如果真的長期有問題你們沒有其他的考量嗎按照這個程序啊他早就該 |
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接受很多的懲罰甚至是不是應該要解聘了是我想跟委員報告在這個相關的法令或他們的督導裡頭都有這個可以找其他的業者來接替營運或代駛或者來協調其他客運業者可是交通部沒有任何作為啊 |
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都不斷的回覆給我們沒有接手業者缺乏駕駛人力然後不敢處罰違規業者因為沒有接管能力不敢讓違規業者退場最後違規業者變成大道不能倒人民變成不得不忍市長這個是我們法治國家這個是有為有守有能力政府的行為嗎 |
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真的不要再綁架人民了你不能讓業者綁架政府政府綁架人民啊 |
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站在交通主管機關的立場我們像依法行政而且依法來做相關的一個處置這是必要的所以我剛才在這裡一再的向委員說明了這個我會請公路總局會督導他希望他能夠落實今天最大的問題已經不是易潔科技這個業者是交通部因為 |
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交通部是主管機關業者違規那是業者的責任可是業者違規可以一年又一年一年又兩年那這是不是交通部的責任那讓人民在公車站牌下一次一次的落空一年一年的落空耶這個部分當然我們今天提出了臨時提案我們請問這個次長 |
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我們什麼時候可以最快的你們可不可以立即的按照我們今天提案的內容進行多久可以回覆給本委員會委員剛才提到的那樣要查處的情形或者要說明的情形我們會盡快的在這個三個月內給委員一個答覆好 沒關係三個月太久了吧 |
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而且這情形已經不是昨天發生的我們不是給委員說辦理的情形啦但是該要去請他要改善的要輔導的這個我們會立即來做處理 |
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那你們會不會追究失職責任這個就是我跟委員特別提到原則上我們會請公務局去檢討相關督導上有沒有責任如果有的話當然依相關的程序來做處理一定要追究我們請他們去檢討我們希望縮短兩個月好不好OK 沒問題好 那就兩個月最後 次長跟副局長請回很快的本席請內政部長好不好 很快那個劉部長 |
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部長 我們今天看到內政部的報告有提到獨駕刑法的移送件數 那這個移送件數數字爆炸性的成長那這個代表什麼 這個代表是獨駕犯罪是真的惡化還是警方導入拖曳快篩後過去抓不到的黑數浮現 是什麼 |
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兩者都不排除但是就我們所了解應該就是黑數慢慢浮現出來以後我們再做後續的這個動作的處理所以如果沒有強力打擊的話呢我相信他會慢慢減少好那我們比較關心的是獨駕肇事的件數有沒有下降獨駕致死致傷的案件有沒有下降累犯的比例有沒有下降 |
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還有這個依托米子佔獨駕案件的比例是多少我們各縣市的熱點在哪裡所以我們是不是可以請部長承諾我們能不能在一個月內提出獨駕黑數與查緝成效的分析報告 |
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內容至少包括我們分年分縣市分毒品種類分肇事和非肇事出犯與累犯以及攔查與事故後的查獲統計可以嗎報告委員我們內政部警政署在處理事情是實事求是 |
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曾經發生過的這個案件數目字要做比較好的分析報告我們一定會做報告但是未來如何做處理的話剛剛已經有提過行政院跨部會要做包括從這個行政處分、刑事處分、刑法上面甚至未來怎麼樣遏止全部都包含在內本刑事請你可不可以提出獨駕黑數與查緝成效的分析報告 |
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可能需要時間我們剛剛已經提過了我們是實事求是應該給的報告一定給但是我們沒有辦法像委員所說的馬上就一個答案出來我想這樣子反而不是很實際對啊 那我就問你多久可以給嗎 |
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你分年分縣市你不會現在才要做吧你過去應該有啊分年分縣市分毒品種類分造勢非造勢出販雷販你們一定報告委員我剛沒提過了有關於毒價也好或者是吸毒等等這些一共跨五個不同的部會那我們要收集這個資料所以我們會來處理半年 |
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剛好跟年度預算可以搭配跟委員報告一下我們年度預算到目前為止其實我們就是要用很多不同的經費要處理這一塊所以我們必須要有一段時間的做比較好的整理因為之後收集我們跟委員報告你不會現在才要收集你應該長期有吧 |
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這個部分 署長你可不可以說一下我剛剛跟委員報告過它是跨部會的那跨部會的重整資料的話我們願意來承擔但是沒有辦法那麼快有關毒品跨部會的整合是哪一位政委 |
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還是是直接行政院長或是副院長是誰負責跨部會的召集人跟毒品相關我們這個執政黨的領導很有問題 |
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所以不知道是誰針對我們現在這麼嚴重全民所有藍綠白的立委都關心的毒品是跨幾個部位現在目前是黎明熙你政委跟陳時中陳政委那毒品的這個整個政治是法務部最高檢高檢署在做一個跨部位的整合所謂的毒品整個整合所以是法務部整個整合都是法務部在做整合 |
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一個月內能不能提出獨駕黑樹與茶器成效的分析報告 |
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獨駕黑樹然後內容能夠包括至少分年分縣市讓我們了解肇事非肇事出犯和累犯你是攔查還是事故後的查獲統計委員這個部分的統計我們沒有所以應該是要政委跨部會的所以這個要所以你看我們的中央部會這樣零零落落沒有整合這個真的很讓全國人民失望那 |
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這個部分不是這樣子沒關係 剛剛部長內政部劉部長答應我半年那我們半年後看看我們行政院會在整個統合之下各部會會積極來處理這個事情不會有那種說我們對毒品這個部分其實各單位都已經用最大的力量來做了對啊 用了最大力量但是持續的惡化然後民眾痛苦 |
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其實跟委員報告 其實以前我們也負責做當檢察官的時候我也負責毒品查緝嘛事實在毒品查緝這個東西 其實像現在有些它的量子多可能它是因為我們警政署跟各單位裡面積極在查緝裡面它浮現出來的所以我們也相信經過在我們努力的積極查緝之下法令的配合之下 我也相信說將來那個地方會被我們壓制住的這個部分是我相信將來要多久 已經這麼多年 這麼多年只有惡化 |
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層出不窮 還有越來越慘我們真的希望您說的 我們盡快壓制住對 其實高鐵人署在茶具毒品這一塊上它的那個成效是蠻好的要這邊再詳細的數據我們再跟委員這邊做報告好 那個劉部長 我們就半年你剛剛說半年 我們就半年 |
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報告委員您剛所提的部分是統計數據上面怎麼做分析報告而不是現在行政院所強調的獨駕零容忍現在每個部會真的都非常認真但是未來的修法還是需要立法院的委員的幫忙當然當然這些歸這些但是本席想知道的那我們就請內政部半年後六個月後提出來好謝謝 |
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徐委員欣瑩 |
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謝謝主席。 |
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徐委員欣瑩 |
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2026-06-03T12:24:28.762000+08:00 |
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本席先請交通部陳次長，以及公路局的林副局長。 |
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陳次長彥伯 |
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委員好。 |
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徐委員欣瑩 |
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次長還有副局長，我今天非常沉重站在這裡。 |
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徐委員欣瑩 |
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剛剛有通過的臨時提案，我不知道次長知不知道，但我想副局長你應該很清楚。 |
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徐委員欣瑩 |
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亦捷科際承攬了交通部協助好幾個縣市的公路運輸，就是客運，長期發生臨時的脫班、任意的減班、停駛的情況。 |
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徐委員欣瑩 |
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次長，我先請教您，現在次長應該是有公務車吧？ |
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陳次長彥伯 |
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有公務車。 |
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1 |
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徐委員欣瑩 |
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2026-06-03T12:25:15.207000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-06-03T12:25:19.169000+08:00 |
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每天上下班應該是有公務車接送您吧？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-06-03T12:25:19.789000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-06-03T12:25:35.839000+08:00 |
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那我請教您，如果您的公務車說不來就不來，然後常常讓您遲到、常常讓您九點半才到交通委員會或內政委員會，您有可能容忍嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.755 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-06-03T12:25:35.980000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-06-03T12:25:36.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
請您回答我。 |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-06-03T12:25:37.501000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-06-03T12:25:38.421000+08:00 |
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應該是無法接受的。 |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-06-03T12:25:38.641000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-06-03T12:25:39.142000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].text |
無法接受？ |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-06-03T12:25:39.422000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-06-03T12:25:47.705000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
那你們知道亦捷科際它不是昨天發生，也不是今年才發生，已經一年多了！ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-06-03T12:25:49.187000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-06-03T12:25:52.409000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
結果我們交通部完全沒有作為！ |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-06-03T12:25:52.409000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-06-03T12:26:08.223000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
所以我們新竹縣的鄉親還有相關路線的各縣市鄉親，他等不到的不是公車、他等不到的是願意負責任的政府。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-06-03T12:26:10.056000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-06-03T12:26:16.022000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
今天很多學生站在公車站牌下，他都不知道車會不會來。 |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-06-03T12:26:16.022000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-06-03T12:26:29.014000+08:00 |
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他要上學，不知道車會不會來；上班族也是不知道會不會遲到被扣薪水；很多的長輩站在站牌下，他不知道能不能趕上他的回診。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-06-03T12:26:30.711000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-06-03T12:26:32.552000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
這時候我們交通部在做什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-06-03T12:26:32.552000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-06-03T12:26:38.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
我們交通部只會開會、開會、再開會，這就是人民最憤怒的地方。 |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-06-03T12:26:39.715000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-06-03T12:26:46.958000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
我們人民的生活被打亂，但是官員一整天的工作，只有把責任往後推。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-06-03T12:26:48.218000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-06-03T12:26:52.300000+08:00 |
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一、兩年了，完全沒有解決。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-06-03T12:26:58.492000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-06-03T12:27:00.254000+08:00 |
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駕駛不足、班次異常。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-06-03T12:27:00.994000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-06-03T12:27:09.779000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
也知道民眾大量的陳情，更知道營運風險持續存在，可是問題是一路惡化到今天。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-06-03T12:27:09.799000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-06-03T12:27:12.881000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
從113年到114年，到現在115年。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-06-03T12:27:18.416000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-06-03T12:27:21.919000+08:00 |
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這個答案只有一個：有人失職。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-06-03T12:27:21.919000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-06-03T12:27:31.426000+08:00 |
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而且不是一天的失職，是長期的失職，是系統性的失職，也是整個監理體系的失職。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-06-03T12:27:31.426000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-06-03T12:27:38.971000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
所以請教次長，公路法第四十七條是寫假的嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.737 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-06-03T12:27:38.971000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-06-03T12:27:43.375000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
法律明明給了主管機關完整的工具，限期改善。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-06-03T12:27:44.851000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-06-03T12:27:54.819000+08:00 |
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你可以停止部分營業、你可以停止全部營業、你可以廢止執照，結果交通部做了什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-06-03T12:27:54.819000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-06-03T12:27:58.842000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
法律給你手術刀，你交通部只會用棉花棒！ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-06-03T12:27:59.923000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-06-03T12:28:05.507000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
人民看到的不是你的執法，是你的縱容、是你的放任！ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-06-03T12:28:07.129000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-06-03T12:28:11.512000+08:00 |
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次長，請你回答，現在亦捷科際的問題怎麼辦？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-06-03T12:28:18.587000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-06-03T12:28:25.528000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
感謝委員就這個問題提出很嚴厲的質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-06-03T12:28:25.528000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-06-03T12:28:37.151000+08:00 |
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我想這樣的問題，站在交通部基於道路或者是汽車運輸業的主管機關來講，我們是無法容忍的，所以這一部分…… |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.978 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-06-03T12:28:37.751000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-06-03T12:28:39.432000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
無法容忍，為什麼長期發生這個事？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-06-03T12:28:39.552000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-06-03T12:28:40.812000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
所以我要跟委員報告…… |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-06-03T12:28:41.192000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-06-03T12:28:47.383000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
6月初才剛又再次脫班，5月反映、4月反映都沒有用！ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-06-03T12:28:47.903000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-06-03T12:28:53.066000+08:00 |
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而且114年就有這個問題了，115年還這樣！ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-06-03T12:28:53.066000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-06-03T12:29:09.014000+08:00 |
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所以本部會責由公路局確實去查明，並依照剛才講的公路法第四十七條或第七十七條，其實有很多的法令可以對業者予以處分，而且針對這一家業者可能要專案來督導。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-06-03T12:29:09.014000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-06-03T12:29:23.979000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
所以次長也認同一定有人失職，然後你們長期失職的結果，就給人民來承擔這個痛苦的後果。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.974 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-06-03T12:29:25.160000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-06-03T12:29:29.283000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
我想在督導面可能要做一些檢討。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-06-03T12:29:29.283000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-06-03T12:29:30.864000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
那你們有沒有備援能力？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-06-03T12:29:31.725000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-06-03T12:29:43.247000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
譬如說駕駛臨時請假或怎麼樣，他可以兩手一攤說我沒有駕駛、我缺駕駛，那你們沒有備援的方案嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.902 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-06-03T12:29:43.247000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-06-03T12:29:48.551000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
還有，這個廠商如果真的長期有問題，你們沒有其他的考量嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-06-03T12:29:48.551000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-06-03T12:29:56.636000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
按照這個程序，他早就該接受很多的懲罰，甚至是不是應該要解聘了？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-06-03T12:29:57.196000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-06-03T12:30:09.219000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
是，跟委員報告，在相關的法令或他們的督導裡頭，都是可以找其他的業者來接替營運或代駛，或者來協調其他客運業者…… |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.98 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-06-03T12:30:09.399000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-06-03T12:30:11.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
可是交通部沒有任何作為啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-06-03T12:30:12.561000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-06-03T12:30:22.047000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
都不斷地回復給我們，沒有接手的業者，缺乏駕駛人力，然後不敢處罰違規業者。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.906 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-06-03T12:30:22.547000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-06-03T12:30:40.719000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
因為沒有接管能力，所以不敢讓違規業者退場，最後，違規業者變成大到不能倒、人民變成不得不忍，次長，這個是我們法治國家，這個是有為有守、有能力政府的行為嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.94 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-06-03T12:30:40.719000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-06-03T12:30:43.102000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
跟委員報告…… |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-06-03T12:30:43.102000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-06-03T12:30:45.164000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
真的不要再綁架人民。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-06-03T12:30:45.945000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-06-03T12:30:49.789000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
你不能讓業者綁架政府，政府綁架人民啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-06-03T12:30:51.625000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-06-03T12:31:07.595000+08:00 |
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站在交通主管機關的立場，我們依法行政，而且依法來做相關的處置，這是必要的，所以我剛才在這裡一再地向委員說明，我會請公路局督導它，希望它能夠落實依法執行。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.899 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-06-03T12:31:07.595000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-06-03T12:31:27.268000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
次長，今天最大的問題已經不是亦捷科際這個業者，而是交通部，因為交通部是主管機關，業者違規那是業者的責任，可是業者違規可以一年又一年、一年又兩年，這是不是交通部的責任？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-06-03T12:31:28.388000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-06-03T12:31:34.071000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
讓人民在公車站牌下一次一次地落空、一年一年地落空耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-06-03T12:31:34.091000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-06-03T12:31:50.486000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
這個部分當然我們今天提出了臨時提案，請問次長，什麼時候可以最快地，你們可不可以立即地按照我們今天提案的內容進行？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-06-03T12:31:50.766000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-06-03T12:31:52.387000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
多久可以回復給本委員會？ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-06-03T12:31:52.387000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-06-03T12:32:00.713000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
我想委員剛才提到的，要查處的情形或者要說明的情形，我們會儘快地在……多久？ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.812 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-06-03T12:32:00.853000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-06-03T12:32:01.033000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
3個月內給委員一個答復。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-06-03T12:32:03.535000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-06-03T12:32:03.975000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
3個月太久了吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-06-03T12:32:03.975000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-06-03T12:32:12.784000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
先3個月，但是…… |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-06-03T12:32:12.784000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-06-03T12:32:16.511000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
而且這個情形不是昨天發生的。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-06-03T12:32:16.771000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-06-03T12:32:19.015000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
我們是跟委員說辦理的情形啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-06-03T12:32:19.416000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-06-03T12:32:24.444000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
但是該請它去改善的、要輔導的，這個我們會立即來做處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-06-03T12:32:26.067000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-06-03T12:32:27.829000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
你們會不會追究失職責任？ |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-06-03T12:32:28.829000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-06-03T12:32:38.196000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
這個就是我跟委員特別提到，原則上我們會請公路局去檢討相關督導上有沒有責任，如果有的話，當然依相關的程序來做處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.981 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-06-03T12:32:38.936000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-06-03T12:32:39.617000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
一定要追究。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-06-03T12:32:40.237000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-06-03T12:32:40.597000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
我們請他們去檢討。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-06-03T12:32:40.597000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-06-03T12:32:43.339000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
我們希望縮短，兩個月好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-06-03T12:32:43.399000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-06-03T12:32:43.840000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
OK，沒問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-06-03T12:32:43.840000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-06-03T12:32:49.964000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
好，那就兩個月，次長跟副局長請回。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-06-03T12:32:49.964000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-06-03T12:32:51.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
好，謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-06-03T12:32:51.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-06-03T12:32:53.286000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
最後，本席請內政部長好不好？很快。 |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-06-03T12:32:54.848000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-06-03T12:32:54.868000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
劉部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-06-03T12:33:01.559000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-06-03T12:33:15.349000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
部長，我們今天看到內政部的報告有提到毒駕的刑法移送件數，這個移送件數數字爆炸性地成長，這代表什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-06-03T12:33:15.349000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-06-03T12:33:25.016000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
代表毒駕犯罪是真的惡化，還是警方導入唾液快篩後，過去抓不到的黑數浮現？ |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.906 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-06-03T12:33:25.016000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-06-03T12:33:25.176000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-06-03T12:33:28.046000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-06-03T12:33:40.412000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
兩者都不排除，但是就我們所瞭解，應該就是黑數慢慢浮現出來以後，我們再做後續的動作處理，所以如果我們有強力打擊的話，我相信它會慢慢減少。 |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.934 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-06-03T12:33:41.092000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-06-03T12:33:45.554000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
好，那我們比較關心的是，毒駕肇事的件數有沒有下降？ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-06-03T12:33:46.935000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-06-03T12:33:50.176000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
毒駕致死、致傷的案件有沒有下降？ |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-06-03T12:33:50.837000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-06-03T12:33:52.818000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
累犯的比例有沒有下降？ |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-06-03T12:33:54.198000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-06-03T12:33:59.820000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
還有，依托咪酯占毒駕案件的比例是多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0.765 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-06-03T12:34:00.860000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-06-03T12:34:03.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
各縣市的熱點在哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-06-03T12:34:03.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-06-03T12:34:13.303000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
所以我們是不是可以請部長承諾，在一個月內提出毒駕黑數與查緝成效的分析報告？ |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.971 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-06-03T12:34:14.403000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-06-03T12:34:27.580000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
內容至少包括分年、分縣市、分毒品種類、分肇事和非肇事、初犯與累犯以及攔查與事故後的查獲統計，可以嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0.977 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-06-03T12:34:27.580000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-06-03T12:34:46.501000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
報告委員，我們內政部警政署在處理事情是實事求是，曾經發生過的案件數目字要做比較好的分析報告，我們一定會做報告，但是未來如何做處理的話，剛剛已經有提過，行政院跨部會要做，包括從行政處分、刑事處分、刑法上面，甚至未來怎麼樣遏止的部分，全部都包含在內。 |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0.973 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-06-03T12:34:46.501000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-06-03T12:34:52.528000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
本席是請你可不可以提出毒駕黑數與查緝成效的分析報告？ |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0.88 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-06-03T12:34:53.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-06-03T12:34:58.274000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
可能需要時間。 |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-06-03T12:34:58.274000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-06-03T12:34:59.274000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
按年、分縣市，要多久？ |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-06-03T12:34:58.274000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-06-03T12:35:07.203000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
我剛剛已經提過了，我們是實事求是，應該給的報告一定給，但是我們沒有辦法像委員所說的，馬上就有一個答案出來，我想這樣子反而不是很實際。對啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0.984 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-06-03T12:35:08.084000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-06-03T12:35:09.465000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
我就問你多久可以給嘛？ |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-06-03T12:35:10.566000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-06-03T12:35:13.087000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
分年、分縣市，你不會現在才要做吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-06-03T12:35:13.528000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2026-06-03T12:35:14.668000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
你過去應該有啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-06-03T12:35:15.228000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-06-03T12:35:20.631000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
分年、分縣市、分毒品種類、分肇事非肇事、初犯累犯，你們一定有這些數字。 |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0.552 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-06-03T12:35:20.711000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-06-03T12:35:30.136000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
報告委員，我剛剛已經提過了，有關於毒駕也好或者是吸毒等等這些，一共跨5個不同的部會，那我們要收集這個資料，所以我們會來處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0.927 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-06-03T12:35:30.136000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-06-03T12:35:31.136000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
好，那你要多久？ |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-06-03T12:35:30.796000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2026-06-03T12:35:34.578000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
半年，剛好跟年度預算可以搭配。 |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2026-06-03T12:35:34.798000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2026-06-03T12:35:44.525000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
跟委員報告，我們年度預算到目前為止，其實我們就是要用很多不同的經費來處理這一塊，所以必須要有一段時間來做比較好的整理。 |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2026-06-03T12:35:44.525000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2026-06-03T12:35:47.347000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
半年就是等到下個會期的…… |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2026-06-03T12:35:47.347000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2026-06-03T12:35:49.209000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
沒有，因為資料收集，跟委員報告，我們資料收集…… |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
0.474 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2026-06-03T12:35:49.449000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2026-06-03T12:35:51.731000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
你不會現在才要收集，你應該長期有吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2026-06-03T12:35:54.176000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2026-06-03T12:35:55.997000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
這個部分，署長，你可不可以說一下？ |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2026-06-03T12:35:55.997000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2026-06-03T12:35:56.997000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
你應該長期有吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2026-06-03T12:35:56.117000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:03.460000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
我剛剛跟委員報告過，它是跨部會的，那跨部會的綜整資料的話，我們願意來承擔，但是沒有辦法那麼快。 |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0.976 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2026-06-03T12:36:03.640000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:06.922000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
現在有關毒品跨部會的整合是哪一位政委？ |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2026-06-03T12:36:06.922000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:09.349000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
您知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2026-06-03T12:36:09.349000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:13.691000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].text |
還是直接由行政院長或是副院長？ |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2026-06-03T12:36:13.691000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:14.691000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
毒品防制的…… |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2026-06-03T12:36:13.691000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:15.812000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].text |
是誰負責跨部會的召集人？ |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2026-06-03T12:36:15.812000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:19.254000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].text |
不知道？哇！ |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2026-06-03T12:36:19.254000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:19.874000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
這個執政黨的領導很有問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2026-06-03T12:36:19.874000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:24.376000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
跟毒品相關的部分是林明昕政委…… |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2026-06-03T12:36:24.376000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:26.257000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].text |
所以不知道是誰？ |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2026-06-03T12:36:26.257000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:32.498000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].text |
針對現在這麼嚴重，全民及所有藍綠白立委都關心的…… |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
張署長榮興 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2026-06-03T12:36:32.798000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:37.359000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].text |
委員，毒品是跨幾個部會，目前是林明昕政委跟陳時中政委。 |
| transcript.gazette[115].quality |
0.792 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2026-06-03T12:36:37.359000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:38.480000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].text |
兩位政委。 |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
張署長榮興 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2026-06-03T12:36:38.480000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[117].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:47.122000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].text |
毒品的整個政策是法務部、高檢署在做跨部會的整合，所謂的毒品整個的政策。 |
| transcript.gazette[117].quality |
0.844 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2026-06-03T12:36:47.242000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[118].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:48.102000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].text |
所以是法務部？ |
| transcript.gazette[118].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
張署長榮興 |
| transcript.gazette[119].start |
2026-06-03T12:36:48.822000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[119].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:50.423000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].text |
整個整合都是法務部在做整合。 |
| transcript.gazette[119].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2026-06-03T12:36:50.423000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[120].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:51.423000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].text |
召委，不好意思，我可不可以請次長？ |
| transcript.gazette[120].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[121].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[121].start |
2026-06-03T12:36:51.423000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[121].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:52.423000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].text |
馮次長有在，次長可不可以上來？ |
| transcript.gazette[121].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[122].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[122].start |
2026-06-03T12:36:52.423000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[122].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:53.423000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].text |
我們最後就是請教這個，是不是可以提出來？ |
| transcript.gazette[122].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[123].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[123].start |
2026-06-03T12:36:53.423000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[123].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:54.423000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].text |
次長，剛剛有聽嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[123].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[124].speaker |
馮次長成 |
| transcript.gazette[124].start |
2026-06-03T12:36:54.423000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[124].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:55.423000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].text |
是，委員是要問說…… |
| transcript.gazette[124].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[125].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[125].start |
2026-06-03T12:36:52.859000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[125].end |
2026-06-03T12:36:55.301000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].text |
一個月內能不能提出毒駕黑數與查緝成效的分析報告？ |
| transcript.gazette[125].quality |
0.826 |
| transcript.gazette[126].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[126].start |
2026-06-03T12:37:22.234000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[126].end |
2026-06-03T12:37:33.279000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].text |
毒駕黑數，然後內容至少包括分年、分縣市，讓我們瞭解，還有肇事非肇事、初犯和累犯、你是攔查還是事故後的查獲統計，可以嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[126].quality |
0.784 |
| transcript.gazette[127].speaker |
馮次長成 |
| transcript.gazette[127].start |
2026-06-03T12:37:33.279000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[127].end |
2026-06-03T12:37:35.199000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].text |
委員，這個部分的統計我們沒有，這個要跨部會。 |
| transcript.gazette[127].quality |
0.684 |
| transcript.gazette[128].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[128].start |
2026-06-03T12:37:36.160000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[128].end |
2026-06-03T12:37:38.821000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].text |
所以應該是要政委，跨部會的…… |
| transcript.gazette[128].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[129].speaker |
馮次長成 |
| transcript.gazette[129].start |
2026-06-03T12:37:38.821000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[129].end |
2026-06-03T12:37:40.802000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].text |
對，這要跨部會，這個部分我們沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[129].quality |
0.143 |
| transcript.gazette[130].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[130].start |
2026-06-03T12:37:40.802000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[130].end |
2026-06-03T12:37:49.065000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].text |
所以你看，我們的中央部會這樣零零落落沒有整合，真的很讓全國人民失望。 |
| transcript.gazette[130].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[131].speaker |
馮次長成 |
| transcript.gazette[131].start |
2026-06-03T12:37:52.588000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[131].end |
2026-06-03T12:37:53.389000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].text |
這個部分不是這樣子。 |
| transcript.gazette[131].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[132].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[132].start |
2026-06-03T12:37:53.809000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[132].end |
2026-06-03T12:37:59.514000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].text |
你們沒有，沒關係，剛剛內政部劉部長答應我半年，我們半年後看看提出來的…… |
| transcript.gazette[132].quality |
0.742 |
| transcript.gazette[133].speaker |
馮次長成 |
| transcript.gazette[133].start |
2026-06-03T12:38:01.375000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[133].end |
2026-06-03T12:38:11.463000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].text |
我們行政院會在整個統合之下，各部會會積極來處理這個事情，不會有那種說我們對毒品這個部分……其實各單位都已經用最大的力量來做了，雖然給我們一個……對啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[133].quality |
0.896 |
| transcript.gazette[134].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[134].start |
2026-06-03T12:38:11.984000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[134].end |
2026-06-03T12:38:14.506000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].text |
用了最大力量，但是持續地惡化。 |
| transcript.gazette[134].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[135].speaker |
馮次長成 |
| transcript.gazette[135].start |
2026-06-03T12:38:14.506000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[135].end |
2026-06-03T12:38:15.607000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].text |
也不是這樣子。 |
| transcript.gazette[135].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[136].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[136].start |
2026-06-03T12:38:15.607000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[136].end |
2026-06-03T12:38:17.008000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].text |
然後民眾痛苦，苦不堪言。 |
| transcript.gazette[136].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[137].speaker |
馮次長成 |
| transcript.gazette[137].start |
2026-06-03T12:38:19.970000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[137].end |
2026-06-03T12:38:40.542000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].text |
其實以前當檢察官的時候我也負責毒品查緝，事實上毒品查緝這個東西，像現在有些它的量是多，可能是因為警政署和各單位積極查緝裡面所浮現出來的，所以在我們努力的積極查緝之下，法令的配合之下，我也相信將來那個地方會被我們壓制住，這個部分我們會…… |
| transcript.gazette[137].quality |
0.945 |
| transcript.gazette[138].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[138].start |
2026-06-03T12:38:41.263000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[138].end |
2026-06-03T12:38:41.643000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].text |
將來要多久？ |
| transcript.gazette[138].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[139].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[139].start |
2026-06-03T12:38:41.923000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[139].end |
2026-06-03T12:38:42.604000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].text |
已經這麼多年。 |
| transcript.gazette[139].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[140].speaker |
馮次長成 |
| transcript.gazette[140].start |
2026-06-03T12:38:42.604000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[140].end |
2026-06-03T12:38:43.604000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].text |
我們已經在做了。 |
| transcript.gazette[140].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[141].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[141].start |
2026-06-03T12:38:43.464000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[141].end |
2026-06-03T12:38:47.989000+08:00 |
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這麼多年只有惡化、層出不窮，還有越來越慘。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[142].speaker |
馮次長成 |
| transcript.gazette[142].start |
2026-06-03T12:38:47.989000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[142].end |
2026-06-03T12:38:48.989000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].text |
也不是這麼說啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[142].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[143].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[143].start |
2026-06-03T12:38:47.989000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[143].end |
2026-06-03T12:38:50.652000+08:00 |
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我們真的希望像您說的，能夠儘快壓制住。 |
| transcript.gazette[143].quality |
0.765 |
| transcript.gazette[144].speaker |
馮次長成 |
| transcript.gazette[144].start |
2026-06-03T12:38:50.952000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[144].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[144].end |
2026-06-03T12:38:57.720000+08:00 |
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對，其實高檢署在查緝毒品這一塊，它的成效是滿好的，詳細的數據我們再跟委員這邊做報告。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[144].quality |
0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[145].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[145].start |
2026-06-03T12:38:59.442000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[145].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[145].end |
2026-06-03T12:39:03.186000+08:00 |
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劉部長，你剛剛說半年，我們就半年，半年後提出來。 |
| transcript.gazette[145].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[146].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[146].start |
2026-06-03T12:39:04.367000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T12:39:08.388000+08:00 |
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報告委員，您剛剛所提的部分是統計數據上面怎麼做分析報告…… |
| transcript.gazette[146].quality |
0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[147].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
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2026-06-03T12:39:08.388000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[147].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[147].end |
2026-06-03T12:39:09.388000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[147].text |
統計，還有成效分析。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[148].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[148].start |
2026-06-03T12:39:09.248000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[148].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[148].end |
2026-06-03T12:39:18.950000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[148].text |
而不是現在行政院所強調的毒駕零容忍，現在每個部會真的都非常認真，但是未來的修法還是需要立法院的委員們幫忙。 |
| transcript.gazette[148].quality |
0.96 |
| transcript.gazette[149].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[149].start |
2026-06-03T12:39:19.110000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[149].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[149].end |
2026-06-03T12:39:28.232000+08:00 |
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當然、當然，這些歸這些，但是本席想知道的，我們就請內政部半年後（6個月後）提出來，好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[149].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[150].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[150].start |
2026-06-03T12:39:28.732000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[150].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[150].end |
2026-06-03T12:39:32.446286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[150].text |
下一位請陳清龍委員發言質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[150].quality |
0 |