| IVOD_ID |
169793 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169793 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-03T12:03:24+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-03T12:12:37+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:13 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5329b193fad04125a7e1c2fb97d29fe0cf886063649796cbb79257defbd0e8ffd2a91ba8bd4818235ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:03:24 - 12:12:37 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
(變更議程)立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請內政部部長、警政署署長、交通部部長、經濟部部長就「我國測速照相設備設置標準、執行成效及調整不合理執法點位精進作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢。二、邀請內政部部長、海洋委員會主任委員、法務部部長、交通部部長、教育部部長、衛生福利部部長、數位發展部部長、財政部關務署署長就「因應新興毒品氾濫導致毒駕案件飆升，如何強化執法量能及防制策略」進行專題報告，並備質詢。三、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於警政署及所屬、中央警察大學、消防署及所屬、移民署、空中勤務總隊部分。四、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於直轄市及縣市政府一般性補助款消防署及所屬、移民署、警政署及所屬部分。五、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於內政部主管特別收入基金—新住民發展基金、警察消防海巡移民空勤人員及協勤民力安全基金。六、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於內政部主管信託基金—在校學生獎學基金、劉竹琛先生警察子女獎學基金、誠園獎學基金。七、審查內政部函送財團法人臺灣省義勇人員安全濟助基金會、財團法人警察學術研究基金會、財團法人義勇消防人員安全濟助基金會等3家財團法人115年度預算書案。【警政署、消防署之部分預算另定期以秘密會議進行審查】【預算審查僅詢答；相關預算提案於115年6月15日(星期一)中午12時前截止收件。】） |
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好 謝謝主席那我們請警政署的張署長然後還有法務部的馮次長那今天司法院有代表來嗎沒有好 沒關係那我們先請張署長還有馮次長 |
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請教署長跟次長 今年4月立法院三讀通過刑事訴訟法然後把這個不能安全駕駛罪 含酒駕還有毒駕全面納入預防性的羈押的條款然後5月正式上路 高檢署也下令積極要申請預防性的羈押嚇阻毒販 |
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然後呢 我們的警察呢 也全面推動了這一個唾液的快篩實施呢 隨到隨開移送 擠壓但是呢 要成功擠壓呢法院 還有三個要件第一個 犯罪嫌疑重大第二個 有反覆實行同一犯罪之餘第三 有擠壓的必要我現在就講一個個案彰化瓦斯車獨駕那件事情我先問 這個檢察官提抗告了沒有 |
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這件事情引起大家的憤怒的原因在於說警察很認真在抓 警察官很認真在起訴到了法院那邊呢 法官怎麼講 他說第一個 |
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你們認為啦 簡簡單單認為說 他有吸毒啊 而且有這個前科啊 對不對而且呢 他職業具有高度的風險 因為他是在運送這個瓦斯桶啊所以呢 他有這個高度的再犯的風險但是呢 法官他說 以前有前科 不保證說未來一定會再做同樣的事情啊 |
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那所以呢他認為沒有反覆實施之餘啦第二個呢這個檢方主張呢他是自撞車禍而且呢現場已經有驗出了這個快篩的這個唾液是陽性的這屬於證明說這個是開車的時候受到毒品的影響那法官怎麼講法官說沒有啊 |
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這只能證明說體內有代謝物在最終的尿液精密定檢報告出爐之前沒有辦法憑快篩就直接推論駕駛已達不能安全駕駛的犯罪狀態他已經自撞了還 |
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法官還認為說他不能,他已經沒有說他不能安全駕駛那我就請問一下檢警努力抓,哇我們這個口號也很喊得也很大聲誰到誰開,移送羈押,然後到法院那邊就把你禮物包請回啦那現在遇到這種事情怎麼辦 |
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根委員報告 事實上來講我們監警的努力我們還是持續在會做那對於說法院如果認為說是無保請回的部分我們認為如果人家羈押的話我們就會提抗告我知道了 我是說那中間的落差你們現在羈押率是七成嘛 對不對根委員報告 如果是致死的部分我們目前十一件裡面生壓的是十件 準壓是九件那那個準壓的率是九十趴 |
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準壓90%對至死的部分至死的部分然後如果是預防性羈押的部分生壓30件準壓21件就七成嘛這個核准例是七成對啊我剛才就講就是說你預防性羈押是七成嘛那三成就是我剛才講的啊這個部分我們會努力因為就是說不是你們努力你們很努力的所以我剛才在問說有沒有司法院的代表嘛那現在就是說檢警在辦這個獨駕我們口號也喊得很大啊但是到法官那邊他就跟你講說沒有啊還沒有反復實施之餘啊 |
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所以你們當初送出去的 |
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證據還不夠嗎 還不夠充足嗎其實我們在預防性羈押這件事情上因為跟委員報告 唾液現在並沒有辦法說來作為一個那個判斷嘛那是未來將來我們的考量的部分但目前以預防性羈押的部分上的話這一塊上有一些法官他的判斷部分還沒有達到一致性那目前七成我們繼續努力嘛我們希望是說能夠怎麼樣去達到這一致性呢 有的 |
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預防性羈押成功有的就無保請回那中間的落差到底在哪裡這個彰化這個獨駕瓦斯車這件事情這個大概已經很大討論了它是獨駕自撞欸它還不是說臨檢欸那結果法官還認為說沒有達到不能安全開車這就是你們當初證據是怎麼送的讓法官認為說它還可以安全的開車它是自撞欸 |
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那委員我們這部分我們有充分的敘述理由去抗告啦我們相信說我們會努力做這個事情那中間的落差怎麼辦我認真說那中間的落差是人民在質疑目前大家對於直駕獨駕這件事情警政署警察在抓很努力然後呢這個檢察官很努力那結果到法院那邊 |
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這個是不是可能再去跟司法院這邊看怎麼樣的一個就是說把這個我們彼此之間的意見做一個共識那我再問啦就是說現在我們對於這個新興毒品這個定出這個濃度的標準現在的情況是怎麼樣因為現在只要是說你有達到這個標準就是當作這個抽象危險犯了對不對 |
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來做處理嘛那對於這個新興毒品目前的這個公告的標準我們有與時俱進在做處理嗎這署長回答還是次長回答那這個新興毒品如果是一通米子的話它的益值目前是50有一定的標準有要再做調整嗎應該會做調整因為它的衰退期很快所以它的益值應該會往下調 |
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是內政部在處理還是衛福部在處理衛福部 莊市長 |
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那馮市長先請回好了這個要去跟司法院再溝通一下啦有關這個實驗室的這個預值的調降這是由我們食藥署這邊跟實驗室這邊我們一起來找專家來討論那來研判說我們目前的各實驗室的機器是不是有辦法再調降啦那目前大概大致上就是說如果要達到這個部分大概只有一家實驗室必須要再投資設備這樣子 |
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所以會往調降這個方向做處理?是,是,是,在一個月之內我們會往這個沿逸一個月之內主席,我再問最後一個問題,市長在這邊就是說現在我們對於這個依托米子的這個前驅原料的管制處理方式怎麼樣?因為至少我知道就有兩種嘛一種是依托米子酸,一種是二氫基依托米子 |
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現在對於這個先驅原料我們的處理包委員,我們是管藥的部分,這個屬於毒品的部分可能是經濟部的這個部分來管但是誰在管?經濟部經濟部在管這個嗎?經濟部今天有代表來嗎? |
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我記得說這個先驅原料沒有在管理嗎?我報告一下啦,這個先驅原料現在目前是一個伊托米子酸跟肝胺酸乙酯那這些先驅原料就是有,現在是可以進口進來但是這個先驅原料我們在6月17號,讀審會就會把它列管了列管就是這個不能進口進來 |
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520.836 |
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那他查得到嗎?我的意思是說不能進口但是查得到嗎?源頭會查得到啊,不管是在邊境或者是這些工廠我們都可以查得到啊都查得到?如果說從這個國外運進來也查得到?列管之後就不能進口就會查得到啊在關口海關那邊會查得到目前的一切查得出來嗎?查得出來,會查得到那個彭署長有在這裡嗎? |
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525.497 |
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551.065 |
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來來來 不好意思 我簡單請署長回答一下海關這邊這查得出來嗎 它這個先驅原料查得出來嗎那海關第一線查到也是要送那個法務部的化驗室去化驗才知道對 那如果說查得出來 這個是屬於先驅原料嗎查得出來嗎 不知道列管之後就查得出來列管之後查得出來所以你們6月17號之後會列管 它的先驅原料就對了是是好 OK 好 謝謝 謝謝主席 |