| IVOD_ID |
169767 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169767 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-03T10:42:37+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-03T10:50:43+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:06 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5329b193fad04125b52f217d3013b01a1daf08b7e9b1ad74585712d3831fe5f0c0ae87ae6cfd03fb5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:42:37 - 10:50:43 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：一、 繼續審查：
(一) 本院委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等17人擬具「土石採取法第三條條文修正草案」案。
(二) 本院委員黃仁等36人擬具「土石採取法第三條及第十四條條文修正草案」案。
(三) 本院委員邱議瑩等21人擬具「土石採取法部分條文修正草案」案。
(四) 本院委員賴瑞隆等19人擬具「土石採取法部分條文修正草案」案。
(五) 本院委員許智傑等31人擬具「土石採取法第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
(六) 本院委員柯志恩等19人擬具「土石採取法第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
(七) 本院委員邱鎮軍等24人擬具「土石採取法第三十六條、第三十八條及第三十九條條文修正草案」案。
(八) 本院委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「土石採取法第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
(九) 本院委員丁學忠等16人擬具「土石採取法第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
(十) 本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「土石採取法第三十六條、第三十八條及第四十一條條文修正草案」案。
二、 審查：
(十一) 行政院函請審議「土石採取法第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
(十二) 本院委員林倩綺等17人擬具「土石採取法第三十六條、第三十八條及第三十九條條文修正草案」案。
(十三) 本院委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等16人擬具「土石採取法第三條及第十四條條文修正草案」案。
(十四) 本院委員徐巧芯等16人擬具「土石採取法第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
(十五) 本院委員王鴻薇等19人擬具「土石採取法第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
(十六) 本院委員廖偉翔等21人擬具「土石採取法第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
(第十五及第十六案如未接獲院會交付審查之議事處來文，則不予審查) (詢答及處理)
【6月3日及6月4日二天一次會】） |
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那謝主席是不是有請經濟部代次長請經濟部代次委員好很快的用四分鐘時間請教次長三個問題就土法不能行那你現在從嚴懲 |
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我們立法要嚴懲到實踐會有點落差啦為什麼這樣講這次修正廠商一個重點是強化沒入機制強化沒入機制就是說在行政查處的時候就可以沒入載運的車輛跟機械設備不要到最後才做相關的這個阻斷行為所以像這種會做這種組織性或集團性絕對是有嚴整的分工啦 |
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嚴整的分工他規避所有法律的相關的規定從細節裡面去切割切割再切割都等到這個在初期的行政違規我們如果沒有注意到慢慢就擴大擴大整個這個塌下來之後就到這個重大傷害以至於沒辦法彌補所以怎麼樣針對你所謂的在你的報告裡面所提到的精準打擊你要如何精準打擊 |
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這不是一個口號 要有具體的作為你要針對這些行為你要針對這些行為的特性是它是有集團性集團性就是有分工還有很縝密的規劃所以你怎麼樣透過跟地方政府跟相關我們這個中央單位的這個橫向聯繫包括科技聯防以至於在初期階段就能夠了解這個問題產生的時候 |
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加以立即進入打擊後面就不會發生那麼嚴重的傷害這個我想請教次長您的意見好 謝謝委員指導科技執法是一個非常重要的重點除了科技之外我剛剛也有跟其他委員說明我們可以透過衛星或是無人機的部分來加強我們查地的能力可是你們無人機的預算過了嗎 |
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無人機的預算現在產發署在年度的預算裡面它已經有一個所謂的無人機的一個計畫所以你的無人機產發署預算是要執行這個部分的嗎沒有沒有這個無人機的應用啊不管是在救災防災或是平常公務的所以你的無人機的預算產發署的無人機預算是可以用在查處這個所謂土石盜取的嗎 |
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精準打擊的相關作為嗎是這樣子嗎巡檢的部分因為它是一個各個部分所以結論是說你無人機可以應用在對盜採殺死的這個這個這個查處對不對或者先期的預防對 災害的預防跟巡檢這個部分是很重要無人機的預算非常非常重要對 朝野一定要支持是感謝委員盡快把這個 |
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經濟部的預算特別是無人機預算剛剛審查通過讓你們能夠精準打擊除了無人機相關還有什麼其他的做法嗎?就是委員講的突發不足以置信行政機關的跨部門的整合聯合的查緝小組這是很重要的一個事情 |
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所以你怎麼跟其他作文單位做橫向聯繫事實上法務部高檢署啊他針對於說國土安全的部分一直有一個專案的計畫在做那行政院也有頒布了加強陸域的這個殺死大亂採的處置的方案 |
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那透過這樣子的聯繫的話但是即時發現不法 早期預防 精準打擊加強查緝對 就是報告你們所寫的嘛我希望不是一個口號就是你如果確實的作為來落實這些你三項重點對 所以我們這次的修法就是參照我們跟其他的檢察官跟地檢署甚至檢察長法務部執法的單位提到的 |
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重點 你講到這個法國部是相關的部分這個陸域的稻採它的特性是它具有隱蔽性隱蔽性所以你相關的不像在海域海域我們有海巡地雄對不對那你這個陸域常常在這個深山裡面 |
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或者人跡罕至之所在 對不對所以它具有一定的隱蔽性 您同意嗎就同意啊 我們說針對於說屠城的套件所以你要有相關的誘因去讓這些不法的新聞能夠被揭發出來 |
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所以在行政院的方案裡面有一個查報的一個獎勵獎金是不是能夠足以能夠提供相關能夠加強對這個陸域倒採隱蔽性能夠加以揭發謝謝委員知道這個方向我們會跟將來在討論方案的修正的時候會提出來 |
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而且你地方政府的這個基層的這個公務人員有沒有相關的查緝能量你也要注意一下是是非常感謝我們關心怎麼去落實查處我關心但是你們要去落實啊是是你中央制定法律制定政策立法院通過修法之後你地方政府怎麼去查處沒有能力你沒有辦法查處啊 |
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那怎麼辦這個人力的這個問題包括資源的這個協處啊特別是中央我們不管是各個局屬這對地方政府所推動的這個業務我們都會來支持啊對啦我是相信我是相信說這個土法要執行一定要充足人力跟預算是還有相關的機器現科技的設備是 我跟你剛剛講無人機非常重要是那另外這個另外第三個問題 |
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這個整複的你要會整複的保證金有沒有可能入法不要說你要最後復原還要用這個國家預算來這不是你在歐盟美國其他國家都有相關的制度所以你能不能參照這個水保法用相關水保法的這個保證金繳納跟保管應用辦法裡面的精神這個能不能用這個方式 |
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如果萬一發生他業者脫產或行為人士脫產或倒閉拒不准付那這部分怎麼處理 |
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這個我們好好來思考這個問題因為這個保證金的加儲的話是不是他會藉此來免除他的這個責任那除此之外的話我們現行在執行法規上面比較會防止他脫產可能會實施情節嚴重或是代理行銷扣押以組織性的犯罪行為集團性的絕對他後路已經斷好了 |
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他覺得早就脫產了所以你能夠借盡歐盟跟美國相關的制度歐盟是財務保證 美國是婦肯保證金所以這些國家都用這種方式去處理何況我們的情況比他們更嚴重許多 對不對 |
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不過這個部分他相關國家的規定是針對合法的這個沙石廠他提出申請的時候可能要有一些的保證金但是非常感謝委員提供這些資料我們是不是將來這個法規就通過之後我們必定執法來思考這個我還是很重視就是說執行面執行面一定要有預算有能力 |
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然後又有設備 有相關的配套制度這有提醒經濟部 修法一定會通過但是要怎麼去落實 要靠跨部會要靠中央跟地方政府同理合作好 謝謝 |