| IVOD_ID |
169648 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169648 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-27T10:08:09+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-27T10:17:12+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:03 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a08c85fe1a1e24a655716e612d3879b3afb12ebe7845b04eee1f29abad774ee06ffb1ffb47bf31ea5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李柏毅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:08:09 - 10:17:12 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請中央選舉委員會主任委員列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於中央選舉委員會及所屬部分。【詢答及處理，所列預算提案於115年5月22日(星期五)中午12時截止收件。】
【5月27日、28日兩天一次會】） |
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主席謝謝好請右主委請主委 |
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你好你好謝謝主委我想還是會著重在錯假訊息對選舉的影響主委你也是研究這些民調包含選舉的專家那來擔任這個職位我希望我們對於這些錯假訊息的這個 |
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對選舉的影響跟選務可以實際上來做最緊密的討論你知道嗎台灣在選舉主要政黨三個主要政黨之外有一個最大的政黨其實也參與台灣的選舉就是中國共產黨 |
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中共對台灣選舉他也成立了台灣地方選舉工作專組他在做什麼他在做 |
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研究統戰網路輿論來介入台灣的選舉那隨著AI的這些工具越來越進步越來越難分辨我們舉2018年的韓流配合電視台配合媒體配合半夜的新聞然後開始做整天的操作現在速度可能更快了現在台灣的這些錯假訊息 |
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其實上午可以一波,下午可以一波,半夜還可以一波那如果想要請問主委的意見對於選罷法第53條選罷法第53條是民調公布日要什麼時候截止這一條這個身為民調專家,你認為這個對選舉會造成 |
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什麼樣的影響目前的規定以及如果有討論要調整的規定的話各國對於是否限制民調發布這個做法都不一樣那以台灣的狀況以台灣目前的狀況這個10天 |
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之內就不能公布民調這一個做法看起來社會普遍都還能夠接受那如果調整成三天呢三天或許這個太急切了一點太急切什麼意思我的意思是說可能選民會不習慣那也可能會造成什麼影響你認為如果是三天前 |
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只有在三天前那就是說我的直覺就是說用民調的直覺那會讓我們所擔心的對操作的空間可能會變大會被操作的空間可能更大會被誰操作呢?我在這邊跟你說明 |
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這個針對中共借選其實非常大的數量,我們都可以看得出來那也根據國際智庫的研究,全世界被借選最嚴重的地方就是台灣而且不是台灣自己國內的政黨之間,還包含中國共產黨 |
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那所以這個問題我們不得不防啦,所以剛剛其他委員有建議的這個比如說韓國的例子每天少,然後我們要及時因應這些能力的話其實歐盟也一樣啊,歐盟有他的這個 |
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媒體平台的法律,如果借法的話,這些平台都是必須要馬上受到處罰,而且是高額的罰款所以我覺得中選會這個應該不要置身事外,應該要主動的來表達尤其主委你又是民調專家,你都認為會被影響了,那這個應該要公開的說明 |
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當然公開的說明對於這個沒宣的費用也是有直接的影響的剛剛有多個委員都表達對於這個媒體宣傳對於這個中選會的這些預算的支持那我也希望所有委員也對於這些媒體宣傳也要做一個支持另外剛剛有很多委員也講到選務人員的問題選務人員目前就一天大概一般的選監人員一天大概兩千然後可能補修一天 |
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那他們怕什麼?他們就是怕重演2018公投跟大選一起 |
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加班沒有加班費,還引來一堆責任說這個是選務人員有問題,中選會有問題,我想剛剛主委也有提到這些技術的問題也必須要克服,怎麼克服?你公投綁大選,如果公投跟大選一起,選務人員就怕啊為什麼招不到選務人員,除了待遇之外,除了你剛說的教育部也要支持之外,怕什麼?怕又遇到狀況,有風險啊 |
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主委我想這獵人所說的都是真的啦那我從兩個角度來看第一個2018年那一次的確是一個災難也有史以來第一次 |
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那我們希望說這個歷史不要重演所以中選會在這方面其實2018年之後也做了很多的演練就是希望如果再碰到的話能不能降輕他的傷害減輕傷害現在公投綁大選又過了所以究竟 |
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一次大選能夠容許或者能夠承受多少公投,這本身也是一個重要的問題啦這個也許我們也可以去研究看看好,你要趕快研究齁,那今年就會遇到最後來請選務處長齁,來主委你聽一下上一次我問選務處長,這一個全國不分區的這一個 |
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調查表格室裡面吼裡面有一個候選人的消極條件候選人消極條件裡面的規定下列人員不得申請為登記為候選人裡面有台灣地區人民在大陸設有戶籍或領用大陸地區護照你說中選,來來處長你說這個中選會的態度是怎樣 |
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報告委員,那個關於申請調查表上面那一欄,那那個是目前選報審議細則15條,它有增列的一個規定,就是說候選人在這個申請調查表上面,他必須去拒絕說他不具有外國戶籍或是...你有沒有審?目前這個表格是會在今年的地方公職人選舉...沒有,我說你之前回應我有沒有審? |
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因為以前那個審查的時候我們是依照公職選罷法的規定來審查有沒有審?那其實是有審有審?那你被騙了嗎?不是 總共我在說明因為有關說這個 |
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487.487 |
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是否具有大陸的戶籍或是說它是否涉及滿10年這個規定就是兩岸條例21條這個規定那其實我們目前在選辦法適應性的15條裡面它規定繳交的表件只有戶籍藤本那戶籍藤本裡面它並沒有註記到這些部分那例如說那個所以你的消極資格裡面你就是被騙了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
488.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
498.172 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
他那個消極資格第九條之一那個部分因為他在他的戶籍藤本裡面他並沒有這項註記所以你就是被騙了嘛消極資格你就是被騙了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
499.984 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
526.802 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
其實也不是說被騙,是因為我們在沒有審嘛,沒有審到嘛我跟王處長也談了這個問題,談了很多次其實就是過去的表格,裡面並沒有一覽是關於國籍那新的,是否要放進去,那就是新的問題好啦,我做一個結論啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
530.053 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
539.645 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
過去這個表格害台灣民眾黨以及中選會被詐騙我們必須要改進好不好同不同意好謝謝謝謝 |