| IVOD_ID |
169632 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169632 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第11次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第11次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-26T09:32:23+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-26T09:48:21+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:58 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4826035ccdf778d37843f53f9bf0749586b99ac3399365e151b5e8c542c4931f315cf85df7fa038c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝龍介 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:32:23 - 09:48:21 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第11次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團，建請院會作成決議：「邀請行政院院長應即率同大陸委員會、國防部、外交部及經濟部等相關部會首長就『川習會後台美與兩岸局勢變局、國安戰略、外交困境、經貿衝擊等之因應對策』進行專案報告並備質詢。」是否有當？請公決案等2案。二、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。三、5月22日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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主席我請到議長 麻煩再請主委員長備詢縣委員好 議長久久你好 跟你恭喜恭喜 大家恭喜是啊 恭喜啊你做議長 |
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兩年過五天剛好八年我們在一間的台灣經濟新基礎啦可以說雖然有一些工作做得比較不及格太陽能的必然差異比較慢但是 |
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霸凌我們的意見,我們坦白說尤其民間世界要大部分的如果當機時,當然你的幸運給你供應也有努力啦,也給你傾聽啦也當機時,如果沒有很勤國新生,加上孫文璇議長就要當運動員,你國定,定定這個優適之處啦 |
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不少中蘇、阿慶國之力和中東某省市對地球儀器往前回來建立了台灣這個護國新三軍所以啊,如果沒有這樣,我們今天什麼AI大步伐,我們會失敗了你看三千,六千要八千 |
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你有看到這個消息嗎?第一時間,你覺得他們老闆說什麼拜託不要把工回去做行賄每一個人發多少,你知道嗎?三十四萬的美金老闆說沒有,我們要你拿十五%出來搬所以你做到這個事情好那麼,你有說到軍公教要調薪 |
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我記得 第一次我們的經濟大爆發是在民國七十幾年所以那時候的七十七年 均衡高的調薪是十%你也說到六個月 今年可能九個月差不多要破三萬嘛這都合理啊以我們現在的經濟修律跟稅收這都合理當然資本 要面對挑戰 |
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所以民國七十七年我們的公共高調薪是10%民國七十九年是調12%民國八十年內公共高調薪是13%那麼你這一半的經濟技術要大步伐經濟的生長比過去還要好 還要漂亮 |
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更加漂亮 所以總統有錢你也很想做 萬一我提出零到十五歲一個月要補貼五千你整棟一棟不敢說的 我不敢說了不像你跟總統這樣 不敢說我說十六 十七 十八 要給中央來幫忙因為國管制的責任不定嘛結果你零到十八歲 |
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我是真的跟你傾斷 但是我等一下會跟你說要怎麼像南韓那樣真的把性慾救回來不用五年 三年來你就可以看得很好的效果你第一天就好了 這垃圾了這不是百合湯 這是有孕所以你這個年到十八歲這五千塊要趕緊實行 |
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但我的政策不無理由,我是很開心的這叫做英勇、索儉、略懂所以第一,請你聽77年10%、79年12%、80年13%如果這樣,我請問你,你每年公共高調薪,可以超過8%? |
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首先感謝委員一開始 那個協定是針對全國人民和三峽的努力和努力沒有啦 你在這個位置就是 你的功勞就是你的功勞這沒人有辦法把你關在我腿上但是我也跟你說 麻煩我的北京同情 重慶公民餐館 |
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創業維艱 守成不易買了這幾十年來 我們修這個結構以前你說的表現有10% 10幾%12% 13%那個基期是不一樣的 基期是不一樣的現在我們要看國家的財政 經濟發展 未來社會的投資 家庭的投資我告訴你8% |
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所以我覺得一個公共政策不是在逼說誰會注定錢多錢少,是說這個全土的戰略跟完全的配套有完整的4%到6%有可能嘛 |
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所以想借4%我們過去對蔡總統跟賴總統四邊的調性都中14%慢慢的 各個都中一半就13%啊 你還對蔡總統跟賴總統你不是過去對中經國開始說有啊 你剛才也有說過啊我們對中經國總統開始說過 你也有說過沒關係啦 因為這個我四邊的調性14% 平均4%我在這裡跟你說 表達這樣 叫你表達幾%屬性對你的危難 |
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因為這有心理緩衛來自什麼邪惡的過程你很重要嘛,因為你的主觀意志四趴趴去,你會當天堂嗎四趴趴四趴趴去,就是想叫四趴我剛才要跟議員說過去蔡總統跟賴總統四邊條件十四趴,平均起來是超過三趴 |
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那這個基礎 我認為是現在這個社會...我告訴你啦 他們倆的條件是4%嘛你這次再加6% 都要20% 到徵手比較好看喔 沒關係啦 這我告訴你我告訴你 6% 4%啦 一定是不是4%以上這樣就好 |
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我可以跟委員和全國人民說,我們一定給勞工朋友和所有公共人員在生活、安穩這個過程當中因為有更多社會支持跟經濟發展、國際發展,我們要全民討論但是你這個期待,我相信是多數人個人的期待所以你會符合我們的期待就對了我尊重泡麵會符合我們的期待感謝你人家說抄回答案沒寫的 |
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其實AI大步伐 經濟大步伐 大進步 也很困難尤其傳統生育 是 製造育我現在要向你心中 很多生育跟我說我本來在那邊一直演 演到他們說 你不是說日日要這頓飯沒看嗎他們今天現在都在看電視了 是他們拜託我來替你斷情就是說 AI大步伐這麼高科技的造成這10% |
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大家賺到游小小,所以我告訴你炒肥大,要按摩小的也傳統生意現在一星期做三、四天很多甚至有的名人沒辦法出發這樣就影響到勞工的失業所以這些人,我現在告訴你,想直接針對什麼?一天人裡面有一天是出口美國的 |
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他們幾年讓他缺20% 你知道現在美國開始在退水了就是我們同期是把我們靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜靜 |
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那是前高雄的名義去叫的,你聽到沒有所以他們真困難那麼未來剩回到我們賺盤的15%尤其在經濟生長,稅率銷售大家當然請剛才加到幾幾天嘛,都是你的錢嘛那麼他們是期待說未來在這個出口稅裡面 |
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政府是不是可以給他們補貼5至8%就是說這個針對出口被告,給他藉口15%的補貼你有辦法幫他們嗎? |
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要向委員報告,我們現在剛才提出這個零靠對策的新戰略以後,我們有一個中小微企業轉型升級條例因為你都沒有跟我們合作嘛,他們才請我來問嘛這個中小微轉型升級條例的草案現在正在擬這個規定裡面,就是要證明對向委員所講的,這大多數這個一千萬的零靠,總共一千萬的那些職業零靠這個一百七十萬間的中小微企業,讓他們做實績的步驟 |
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你講的是通案嘛 全世界有給我們撬稅金的撬稅就是大美國嘛美國就是說這次有做美國出口的這三頁價他沒來沒去 他要給負擔 之前那一波是給負擔譬如說20 他本來4.4就變成24.4嘛 |
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現在我們去講到15% 未來這個15%未來這個15%我們有辦法幫他負擔現在現在對於出口美國家 他們是最困難的你知道其他歐洲 日本 東亞洲 他們是最嚴重的 |
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所以職財你有辦法去跟人家說你要怎麼幫忙我們在中小委轉型升級條例裡面就是要針對各種的手法都要做到包括租稅但是我們一定要符合國際經濟貿易的規範我們不能夠對我們 |
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我告訴你 你的零到十八歲 |
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各位國情國 雖然我本無離合 但是我有配套 你們沒有配套啊我們有配套啊 你有配套安心生養 還有加碼教育 還有強化托育還有友善職場 還有自助檢驗你以後我講給他聽 你好好的政績 大家公家營比較有關係是是 難道像你們的好選人說什麼 食糧界都亂講 結果給總統和選區配對不對 不需要嘛 |
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你的政策...你的政策跟我不一樣,我可以跟你說對英台都不會說,我們不會這樣嘛政策不一樣就是大家互相研究嘛,對不對我是說這樣,我讀了一個月五千個月,就是父母少辛苦 |
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成長會更幸福嘛,但是這是怎樣,底標不底標,因為年輕人不敢生育的原因,第一我怕死不去第二就是怎樣,我要買房子嘛,我如果沒有買房子,房地產一直去所以以前的心情,我們大家說我種車,好家財都在那裡,我如果沒有種車,再五年我就買不去 |
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我現在一個配套是什麼 你說社會住宅來得分育宅要有20%是我在台南市我是提高到40%我們坦白說 因為針對性欲率 要找男朋友這樣 我們拉起來我是對20%跟性重到40% 再來就是你若是生第三胎 你生幾個啊 抱歉一年而已這樣 我兩個啦 講經費 |
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我說我跟他們說 你們如果生第三胎我的社會住宅優先入住因為我們有40% 我把婚育宅移到40%社會住宅優先入住 然後將來你買的時候就是我們的社會住宅買你的孫 租金抵價金 |
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這就是經濟部內冬季時,冬季時在台南安南區科技工業區有一個租金在這裡,我們現在先注意嘛那我們政府是不以盈利為目的嘛,我們去社會主席本錢八百萬我們就賣八百萬,這樣政府就OK嘛但是一般的健康便宜八百萬的家,要賣一千一萬嘛 |
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他有生理的問題嘛那這樣他就已經不用煩惱他生三個他就不用煩惱他出賣不去了他可以八檔後九檔後他才會政府把這間房子賣掉這樣就是說他這八檔所繳的租金第一次我們要出賣賣他的基金票八百他繳七十萬我們就給他扣起來變成這間房子存賣他七百三十萬我告訴你 |
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很多年輕人都說你為什麼要我這樣拚第三個生兩個說他要拚第三個 生一個說他要拚第三個藏一個主持人 五十幾歲跟我說他要再拚一個我說拜託你如果要拚一個 我輸人又貼你兩萬 |
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這就是怎樣 已經讓大家覺得 欸 如果這種政策 公共政策這個特定高齡人來生小孩 因為我把我真實在這個基站在照顧著的我告訴你 你可以請你的母娘 母妻去訴求說 社會主體裡面 我們是不是可以把一些出來讓這些人 高生第三體的人 給他們特別的高齡優先進去住 連繞這個廚房 |
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因為你社會主席有的是沒要買的 只有做沒要買有的 我們可以一部分開放來給他們擁有自己的主席 你看如何優先入住 只租不售還有延長租期和延長 這都是現在的進展我們也要注意到這個社會主宰的輪胎沒有啦 你要注意這個社會主席賣他就說他要受我們的限制我們可以計算 |
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好 謝謝 |
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謝委員龍介 |
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主席，我請卓院長。 |
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主席 |
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麻煩再請卓院長備詢。 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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謝委員好。 |
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謝委員龍介 |
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院長早，我要恭喜你。恭喜？ |
| transcript.gazette[3].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2026-05-26T09:32:44.479000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2026-05-26T09:32:44.699000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].text |
大家恭喜！ |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-05-26T09:32:44.799000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-05-26T09:32:45.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].text |
是啊，恭喜啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-05-26T09:32:45.540000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-05-26T09:34:24.789000+08:00 |
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你當院長滿兩年又五天，遇到百年難得一見的臺灣經濟新奇蹟，雖然有一些工作做得比較不好，太陽能弊案查得比較慢，但是坦白說這是百年難得一見，尤其面臨世界AI大爆發，當然你的幸運，我要恭喜你，你有努力，我也肯定，但是當初如果沒有蔣經國先生、孫運璿院長、趙耀東、尹仲容、李國鼎這些有識之士，不惜重金、傾全國之力把張忠謀先生從德州儀器請回來，建立了臺灣的護國神山群，今天什麼AI大爆發，我們根本不會受惠。 |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0.511 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-05-26T09:34:25.830000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-05-26T09:34:32.935000+08:00 |
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你看三星，勞工要罷工，你有看到這個消息嗎？有。 |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
0.684 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-05-26T09:34:32.935000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-05-26T09:34:35.095000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].text |
第一時間你知道他們老闆說什麼嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-05-26T09:34:35.095000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-05-26T09:34:36.415000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].text |
拜託不要罷工，回去工作！ |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-05-26T09:34:36.955000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-05-26T09:34:41.036000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
每一個人發多少錢，你知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-05-26T09:34:41.736000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-05-26T09:34:46.497000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
34萬的美金，勞工說不要，我們要你拿15%出來分。 |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
0.722 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-05-26T09:34:48.058000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-05-26T09:35:16.878000+08:00 |
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所以你遇到的很好，你有說到軍公教要調薪，我記得上一次我們的經濟大爆發是在民國七十幾年，77年那年軍公教調薪是10%，你也說到勞工可能到明年差不多要破3萬。 |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.806 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-05-26T09:35:16.878000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-05-26T09:35:19.059000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
應該是…… |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-05-26T09:35:19.059000+08:00 |
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2026-05-26T09:35:22.879000+08:00 |
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以我們現在的經濟收入跟稅收，這都合理，當然資方要面對挑戰，勞工也面對困難。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.697 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-05-26T09:35:27.173000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-05-26T09:35:32.037000+08:00 |
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所以民國77年我們的軍公教調薪是10%、民國79年是調12%，民國80年軍公教調薪是13%。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.871 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-05-26T09:35:32.037000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-05-26T09:36:05.239000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
那麼這次的經濟奇蹟、AI大爆發，經濟成長比過去更好、更漂亮，所以總統有錢，你也很清楚，願意提出0到15歲的一個月要補貼5,000元，貴黨有些沒眼光的還說，那都亂說！ |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.576 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-05-26T09:36:05.859000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-05-26T09:36:06.379000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
不像你跟總統這樣有眼光。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-05-26T09:36:07.140000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-05-26T09:36:31.902000+08:00 |
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我說16、17、18歲要讓中央幫忙，因為各縣市的財政不等，結果你們提出0到18歲，我是很肯定你，但是我等一下會跟你說要怎麼像南韓這樣真的把生育率拉回來，不用5年，3年內你就可以看到很好的效果。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.724 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-05-26T09:36:32.962000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-05-26T09:36:40.224000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
你第一帖藥下去，這不是白虎湯，這是藥引，所以0到18歲這5,000塊要趕快實行。 |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.655 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-05-26T09:36:45.825000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-05-26T09:36:53.855000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
當然跟我的政策不謀而合，我是很高興，不過這叫做英雄所見略同，所以第一個給你肯定。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-05-26T09:36:53.955000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-05-26T09:36:58.501000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
77年10%、79年12%、80年調薪13%，那麼我請問你，你明年軍公教調薪可以超過8%嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-05-26T09:37:06.652000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-05-26T09:37:11.774000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
首先感謝委員，一開始的那個肯定是針對全國人民跟產業的努力跟打拚，政府…… |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.688 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-05-26T09:37:13.175000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-05-26T09:37:18.717000+08:00 |
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不是，你在做、你在這個位置，該是你的功勞就是你的功勞。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.739 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-05-26T09:37:18.717000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-05-26T09:37:19.717000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
不，這不敢講。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.2 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-05-26T09:37:19.717000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-05-26T09:37:20.717000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
這個沒人能給你割稻尾。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.2 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-05-26T09:37:20.717000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-05-26T09:37:21.717000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
若沒有人民跟產業那麼團結合作，我們也沒有這個錢。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.091 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-05-26T09:37:19.998000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-05-26T09:37:20.758000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
但是我也跟你說了，不要忘記前面蔣經國這些人…… |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.35 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-05-26T09:37:30.062000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-05-26T09:37:33.124000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
另外一個是，創業維艱，守成不易，後來這幾十年來我們守這個結果……8%啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.621 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-05-26T09:37:33.124000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-05-26T09:37:34.124000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
有辦法嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-05-26T09:37:33.124000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-05-26T09:37:33.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
你說我們以前調薪有10%、十幾趴…… |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.385 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-05-26T09:37:33.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-05-26T09:37:33.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
10%、12%、13%。 |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-05-26T09:37:33.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-05-26T09:37:40.709000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
那個基期是不一樣的，現在我們要看國家的財政、經濟發展、未來社會的投資、家庭的投資，全面來檢討。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.878 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-05-26T09:37:53.819000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-05-26T09:37:54.019000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
所以我跟你說8%！ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.429 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-05-26T09:37:54.720000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-05-26T09:38:03.787000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
一個公共政策不是在比誰的主張錢多或錢少，全套的戰略跟完全的配套，有完整的…… |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-05-26T09:38:03.807000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-05-26T09:38:03.967000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
你給我一個range，4%到6%有可能嘛？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.412 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-05-26T09:38:12.778000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-05-26T09:38:13.418000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
所以最少4%？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-05-26T09:38:13.418000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-05-26T09:38:59.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
我們過去蔡總統跟賴總統4次的調薪總共是14%，所以平均起來…… |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.44 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-05-26T09:38:59.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:00.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
人家一次就13%了，你還講從蔡總統到賴總統，那你不就乾脆從蔣經國開始講！ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-05-26T09:39:00.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:01.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
有，你剛才也講過。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-05-26T09:39:01.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:02.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
我們從蔣經國總統開始講，你也有講過。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-05-26T09:39:02.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:03.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
我們4次的調薪14%，平均是這樣。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-05-26T09:39:03.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:04.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
沒關係，因為我在這裡叫你表達幾趴，事實上對你是為難。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.043 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-05-26T09:39:04.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:05.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
因為這有審議委員會做最後的決定。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-05-26T09:39:05.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:06.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
你很重要，因為你的主觀意志，打4%起，你能點頭嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-05-26T09:39:06.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:07.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
就是最少4%。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-05-26T09:38:59.726000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:07.929000+08:00 |
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我剛才還有一句沒跟委員講，過去蔡總統跟賴總統4次調薪14%，平均起來是超過3%，這個基礎我認為是現在這個社會大家有所…… |
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0.412 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-05-26T09:39:07.929000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:11.271000+08:00 |
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我講給你聽，他們兩個調薪14%，你這次再加6%，剛好20%，湊整數比較好看。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-05-26T09:39:11.511000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:11.691000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
沒關係啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-05-26T09:39:11.932000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:12.912000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
這個我跟你講…… |
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0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-05-26T09:39:12.912000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:13.912000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
這個我們一定很謹慎，我說要給勞工跟公教人員…… |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.05 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-05-26T09:39:13.313000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:13.333000+08:00 |
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沒有，我不要跟你說6%、8%啦！ |
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0.364 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-05-26T09:39:13.773000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:14.594000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
院長，是不是4%以上？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-05-26T09:39:14.794000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:15.074000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
這樣就好，請教你。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-05-26T09:39:28.222000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:41.111000+08:00 |
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我可以跟委員跟全國人民說，我們一定讓勞工朋友跟所有公教人員在生活安穩這個過程當中，因為有更多的社會支持跟經濟發展、科技發展，我們要全面討論。 |
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0.877 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-05-26T09:39:41.111000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:45.554000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
但是你這個期待，我相信是多數人、個人的期待…… |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-05-26T09:39:45.754000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:47.395000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
所以你會符合我們的期待就對了？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-05-26T09:39:47.395000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:49.457000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
我儘量打拚。 |
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0.2 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-05-26T09:39:49.457000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:50.137000+08:00 |
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會符合我們的期待？ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-05-26T09:39:51.678000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-05-26T09:39:52.038000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
好，感謝你。 |
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0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-05-26T09:39:53.359000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-05-26T09:40:03.377000+08:00 |
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人家說「臭火焦掩無熟的」，雖然AI大爆發、經濟大爆發、大進步，基層還是很困難，尤其是傳統產業、製造業。 |
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0.524 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-05-26T09:40:04.698000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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2026-05-26T09:40:08.960000+08:00 |
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我現在要很慎重地跟你說，很多產業告訴我……我本來是上個禮拜質詢，一直延，延到他們跟我說：你不是22日要質詢嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.478 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-05-26T09:40:09.120000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-05-26T09:40:09.260000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
怎麼沒有看到！ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-05-26T09:40:09.360000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-05-26T09:40:10.661000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
所以他們現在都看電視。 |
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0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-05-26T09:40:10.941000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-05-26T09:40:30.010000+08:00 |
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他們拜託我向你陳情，因為在AI大爆發之下，高科技的前10%都大賺特賺，所以我跟你說「臭火焦」要「掩無熟的」。 |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.523 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-05-26T09:40:30.751000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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2026-05-26T09:40:39.496000+08:00 |
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現在很多傳統產業一個禮拜只上三天半或四天，甚至有的面臨無法出貨的窘境，這樣就會造成勞工失業嘛！ |
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0.432 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-05-26T09:40:39.816000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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2026-05-26T09:40:52.414000+08:00 |
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我現在要特別強調的是這些產業裡面有一部分是出口美國的，他們去年被課20%的關稅。 |
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0.472 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-05-26T09:40:52.414000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-05-26T09:40:54.034000+08:00 |
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你知道現在美國開始退稅了嗎？ |
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0.692 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
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2026-05-26T09:40:54.034000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
1 |
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2026-05-26T09:40:59.512000+08:00 |
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當初向我們進口的那些進口商，因為川普和法院的關係，現在他們開始在退稅了，院長知道我們這些出口商、出貨的工廠都沒有被退到稅嗎？ |
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0.088 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-05-26T09:40:59.512000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-05-26T09:41:04.990000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
他們有人跟你反映嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-05-26T09:41:04.990000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-05-26T09:41:10.468000+08:00 |
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經濟部有要提供各種法律上的協助。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-05-26T09:41:10.468000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
1 |
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2026-05-26T09:41:15.946000+08:00 |
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他們辦理退稅，問我們這邊所有工廠，最後我們都沒被退到。 |
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0.083 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-05-26T09:41:15.946000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-05-26T09:41:21.424000+08:00 |
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不會退給我們啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-05-26T09:41:21.424000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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2026-05-26T09:41:24.486000+08:00 |
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那是以進口商的名義去繳的，這樣你聽得懂嗎？ |
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0.474 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-05-26T09:41:26.026000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-05-26T09:41:28.047000+08:00 |
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所以他們非常困難。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-05-26T09:41:28.187000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
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2026-05-26T09:41:33.370000+08:00 |
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就算未來稅率回到我們談判的15%，尤其我們經濟成長、稅收超徵，當然，「指頭仔咬著肢肢疼」，都是你的孩子嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.488 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-05-26T09:41:33.610000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-05-26T09:41:49.852000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
他們的期待是，未來在出口稅裡面，政府是不是可以補貼5%至8%？ |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.885 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-05-26T09:41:49.852000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-05-26T09:41:52.294000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
就是針對出口美國、被多課15%的部分，你有辦法幫忙他們嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.708 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-05-26T09:41:57.868000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-05-26T09:42:05.695000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
跟委員報告，我們現在除了提出人口對策新戰略之外，還有一個中小微企業轉型升級條例…… |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.784 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-05-26T09:42:05.775000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-05-26T09:42:09.058000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
因為你都沒跟他們確定，他們才要我來問嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-05-26T09:42:09.458000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-05-26T09:42:11.680000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
這個中小微企業轉型升級條例還在草擬當中。 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.632 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-05-26T09:42:12.060000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-05-26T09:42:23.770000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
在這個過程當中，就是要針對剛才委員所說的，給大多數、將近1,000萬的就業人口、170萬家中小微企業實際的補助。 |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.545 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-05-26T09:42:25.972000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-05-26T09:42:26.693000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
你說的是通案嘛！對…… |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-05-26T09:42:26.793000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-05-26T09:42:32.998000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
全世界向我們加徵關稅的就只有美國，這一陣子有出口美國的業者平白無故要多負擔，之前那批加收20%，譬如原本的稅率是4.4%，就變成24.4%。 |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.466 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-05-26T09:42:48.555000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-05-26T09:42:49.956000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
現在談判談到15%，如果未來真的是15%，政府有辦法幫他們負擔嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.538 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-05-26T09:42:49.956000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-05-26T09:42:56.782000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
本席現在是針對出口美國的廠商，因為他們是最困難的，至於其他出口到歐洲、日本、東南亞的，稅率是正常的嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0.533 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-05-26T09:43:05.311000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-05-26T09:43:09.773000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
針對這個部分，你今天有辦法說明要怎麼幫忙他們嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-05-26T09:43:09.773000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-05-26T09:43:17.397000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
在中小微企業轉型升級條例裡面，就是各種想法都要做到，包括租稅，但是我們一定要符合國際經濟、貿易的規範…… |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0.913 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-05-26T09:43:17.397000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-05-26T09:43:18.397000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
我知道啦！ |
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0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-05-26T09:43:18.397000+08:00 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-05-26T09:43:19.397000+08:00 |
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我們不能被人家說我們有政府補助或是傾銷，這些都不行…… |
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0.208 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-05-26T09:43:19.397000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-05-26T09:43:20.397000+08:00 |
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那不是補助嘛！ |
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0 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-05-26T09:43:20.397000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-05-26T09:43:21.397000+08:00 |
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不能讓人家誤會…… |
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0 |
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謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-05-26T09:43:21.397000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-05-26T09:43:22.397000+08:00 |
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經濟部有很多招數，我說的是對實際數字去處理。 |
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0.05 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-05-26T09:43:22.397000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-05-26T09:43:23.397000+08:00 |
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對、對、對，政府會全力支持中小微企業，至於要用什麼方式，一定要符合國際規範，在法律裡面、在我們正在研擬的這個草案裡面，詳細規範要如何幫助大家。 |
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0 |
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謝委員龍介 |
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2026-05-26T09:43:22.699000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-05-26T09:43:55.847000+08:00 |
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我跟你說，你們的0到18歲一個月5,000元，雖然和我的說法不謀而合，但是我有配套，你們沒有配套。 |
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0.568 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-05-26T09:43:56.707000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-05-26T09:43:57.267000+08:00 |
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我們也有配套啊！ |
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0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-05-26T09:43:57.427000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-05-26T09:43:57.907000+08:00 |
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你們有配套？ |
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0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-05-26T09:43:58.487000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2026-05-26T09:44:00.608000+08:00 |
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我們有安心生養、加碼教育、強化托育、友善職場和居住減壓。 |
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0.667 |
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謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2026-05-26T09:44:01.088000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2026-05-26T09:44:03.028000+08:00 |
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院長，我跟你講，好的政策大家「公家用」哪有什麼關係！是、是。 |
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0.609 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2026-05-26T09:44:03.408000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2026-05-26T09:44:04.789000+08:00 |
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不要像你們的候選人說什麼謝龍介都「黑白講」，結果被總統打耳光，對不對？ |
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0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2026-05-26T09:44:04.789000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2026-05-26T09:44:05.509000+08:00 |
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不需要嘛！ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2026-05-26T09:44:16.980000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2026-05-26T09:44:22.361000+08:00 |
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你們的政策和我不同，難道我會出去跟人家說：卓榮泰都「黑白講」！ |
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0.385 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2026-05-26T09:44:22.521000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2026-05-26T09:44:22.821000+08:00 |
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我不會這樣嘛！ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2026-05-26T09:44:22.821000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2026-05-26T09:44:23.821000+08:00 |
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但是只說一項可能沒辦法全民都照顧到，現在我們說的是整個…… |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
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2026-05-26T09:44:23.101000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2026-05-26T09:44:25.362000+08:00 |
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政策不同就是大家互相再研究嘛！ |
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0.857 |
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謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2026-05-26T09:44:25.502000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2026-05-26T09:44:25.602000+08:00 |
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對不對？是。 |
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0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2026-05-26T09:44:25.602000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2026-05-26T09:44:39.553000+08:00 |
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我的說法是這樣，除了一個月5,000元之外，就是父母少辛苦、成長會更幸福。 |
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0.724 |
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謝委員龍介 |
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2026-05-26T09:44:40.853000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
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2026-05-26T09:44:49.958000+08:00 |
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但這是治標不治本，因為年輕人不敢生有兩個原因，第一是怕養不起，第二是要買房子，如果不買，房地產價格一直上漲，就會買不起。 |
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0.491 |
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謝委員龍介 |
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2026-05-26T09:44:49.958000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2026-05-26T09:44:50.958000+08:00 |
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所以那時候的新青安，大家說：我上車了，幸好！ |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2026-05-26T09:44:50.638000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2026-05-26T09:44:58.042000+08:00 |
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龍介兄，我如果沒有上車，再5年我就買不起了。 |
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0.667 |
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謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2026-05-26T09:45:00.830000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2026-05-26T09:45:02.210000+08:00 |
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我現在有一個配套是怎麼樣？ |
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0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2026-05-26T09:45:02.210000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2026-05-26T09:45:06.291000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
你說社會住宅裡面，婚育宅要有20%？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2026-05-26T09:45:06.911000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2026-05-26T09:45:17.194000+08:00 |
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我在臺南市，我是把它提高到40%，我們坦白說，因為要針對生育率、要像南韓這樣，我們拉起來，我是把它從20%成長到40%。 |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
0.723 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2026-05-26T09:45:17.194000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2026-05-26T09:45:22.455000+08:00 |
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再來，如果你是生第三胎，院長，你生幾個？ |
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0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2026-05-26T09:45:23.035000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2026-05-26T09:45:23.275000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].text |
不好意思，我一個而已。 |
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0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2026-05-26T09:45:23.355000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2026-05-26T09:45:23.355000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].text |
這樣嗎？ |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2026-05-26T09:45:23.355000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2026-05-26T09:45:23.515000+08:00 |
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我兩個啦。恭喜。 |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2026-05-26T09:45:29.708000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
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2026-05-26T09:45:51.189000+08:00 |
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所以我跟他們說，如果你們是生第三胎，我會分社會住宅優先入住，因為我們有40%，我把婚育宅拉起來到40%，社會住宅優先入住，將來你買的時候，也就是我們社會住宅賣給你的時候，租金抵價金。 |
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0.808 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2026-05-26T09:45:53.579000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[118].end |
2026-05-26T09:46:13.733000+08:00 |
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經濟部當時在臺南安南區科技工業區有一個租金抵價金的措施，就是現在先租給他，我們政府是不以盈利為目的，我們蓋社會住宅，本錢如果是800萬，我們就賣他800萬，這樣我們政府就OK嘛！ |
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0.724 |
| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[119].start |
2026-05-26T09:46:14.574000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[119].end |
2026-05-26T09:46:20.898000+08:00 |
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但是一般的建商一樣是800萬的房子，卻要賣他1,100萬，他有盈利的問題。 |
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0.556 |
| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2026-05-26T09:46:21.659000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].guessed |
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2026-05-26T09:46:45.279000+08:00 |
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若是這樣，他就已經不用煩惱了，他生三個，他就不用煩惱房子買不起了，他可以8年後、9年後再向政府把這間房子買回去，這樣一來，他這8年所繳的租金抵減房子要賣給他的價金，譬如800萬，他繳70萬租金，我們就把它扣掉，變成這間房子賣他730萬。 |
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0.674 |
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謝委員龍介 |
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2026-05-26T09:46:45.279000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].guessed |
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2026-05-26T09:46:49.845000+08:00 |
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我跟你說「一必一中」，很多年輕人跟我說：龍介兄，你這個政策，這樣我要來拚第三個。 |
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0.455 |
| transcript.gazette[122].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[122].start |
2026-05-26T09:46:49.845000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].guessed |
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2026-05-26T09:46:51.866000+08:00 |
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生兩個的說他要拚第三個；生一個的也說他要拚第三個。 |
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0.87 |
| transcript.gazette[123].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[123].start |
2026-05-26T09:46:51.946000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].guessed |
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2026-05-26T09:47:05.898000+08:00 |
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連一個主持人五十幾歲，他跟我說他也要再拚一個，我說拜託，如果你要拚一個，我私人再貼你兩萬，這是為什麼？ |
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0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[124].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[124].start |
2026-05-26T09:47:06.379000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[124].end |
2026-05-26T09:47:13.544000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].text |
因為已經讓大家覺得如果是這種公共政策，值得鼓勵他們來生小孩。 |
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0.679 |
| transcript.gazette[125].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[125].start |
2026-05-26T09:47:14.605000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[125].end |
2026-05-26T09:47:44.686000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].text |
院長，我把我真實在基層跑所遇到的情形跟你說，你可以請你的幕僚、部會去思考在社會住宅裡面，是不是可以撥一些出來，給這些敢生第三胎的人特別的鼓勵，優先進去住，然後這些房子賣給他，因為有的社會住宅是不賣，只有租，沒有要賣，有的可以一部分開發來給他們，擁有自己的住宅，你看如何？ |
| transcript.gazette[125].quality |
0.587 |
| transcript.gazette[126].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[126].start |
2026-05-26T09:47:45.947000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[126].end |
2026-05-26T09:47:54.251000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].text |
優先入住、只租不售，還有延長租期，這都是現在的政策，我們也要注意到社會住宅的輪換率…… |
| transcript.gazette[126].quality |
0.838 |
| transcript.gazette[127].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[127].start |
2026-05-26T09:47:54.471000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[127].end |
2026-05-26T09:47:54.631000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].text |
沒有啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[127].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[128].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[128].start |
2026-05-26T09:47:54.831000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[128].end |
2026-05-26T09:47:57.033000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].text |
你要注意，社會住宅賣給他，就告訴他必須要受我們的限制，只能夠繼承…… |
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0.586 |
| transcript.gazette[129].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[129].start |
2026-05-26T09:47:57.533000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[129].end |
2026-05-26T09:48:00.104429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].text |
我們社會住宅如果量…… |
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0.222 |
| transcript.gazette[130].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[130].start |
2026-05-26T09:48:00.404429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].guessed |
1 |
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2026-05-26T09:48:07.547286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].text |
那有很多的配套，不是房子賣給你，你可以去炒房，不是這樣啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[130].quality |
0.08 |
| transcript.gazette[131].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[131].start |
2026-05-26T09:48:07.847286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[131].end |
2026-05-26T09:48:25.275857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].text |
很感謝委員的建議，這都會納入我們整個的考量，社會住宅如果量很多的時候，我們更可以往這個方向想，現在我們把量儘量增多，來滿足社會的需求。 |
| transcript.gazette[131].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[132].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[132].start |
2026-05-26T09:48:25.575857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[132].end |
2026-05-26T09:48:27.861571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].text |
這個你要想辦法啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[132].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[133].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[133].start |
2026-05-26T09:48:28.161571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[133].end |
2026-05-26T09:48:29.304429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].text |
是啊、是啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[133].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[134].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[134].start |
2026-05-26T09:48:29.604429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[134].end |
2026-05-26T09:48:30.604429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].text |
正在做。 |
| transcript.gazette[134].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[135].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[135].start |
2026-05-26T09:48:30.904429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[135].end |
2026-05-26T09:48:35.475857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].text |
我做臺南市長，我也是會想辦法去蓋啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[135].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[136].speaker |
謝委員龍介 |
| transcript.gazette[136].start |
2026-05-26T09:48:35.775857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[136].end |
2026-05-26T09:48:36.775857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].text |
對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[136].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[137].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[137].start |
2026-05-26T09:48:37.075857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[137].end |
2026-05-26T09:48:38.218714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].text |
多謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[137].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[138].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[138].start |
2026-05-26T09:48:38.518714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[138].end |
2026-05-26T09:48:43.090143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].text |
謝謝謝龍介委員質詢，謝謝卓院長備詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[138].quality |
0.125 |
| transcript.gazette[139].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[139].start |
2026-05-26T09:48:43.390143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[139].end |
2026-05-26T09:48:54.818714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].text |
報告院會，現在在議場二樓旁聽的是來自新北市崇林國中的老師跟同學，我們掌聲歡迎各位同學。 |
| transcript.gazette[139].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[140].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[140].start |
2026-05-26T09:48:55.118714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[140].end |
2026-05-26T09:49:00.547286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].text |
接下來請林淑芬委員質詢，林月琴委員請準備。 |
| transcript.gazette[140].quality |
0 |