| IVOD_ID |
169605 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169605 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-22-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-25T10:36:06+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-25T10:46:40+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:34 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fad20b8d851f264d7ceb5d5ca4c34a49c4e9f7a0e3ecb7b5749b57a584ccd15985564259685e84df5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:36:06 - 10:46:40 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：一、 審查115年度中央政府總預算案有關核能安全委員會及所屬單位預算案。
二、 審查115年度中央政府總預算案有關核能安全委員會主管核子事故緊急應變基金附屬單位預算案。
三、 審查115年度行政法人國家原子能科技研究院預算案。
【進行詢答及處理；預算提案請於5月19日中午12時前提出】） |
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主席有請主委主委好 |
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我们在去年5月我们修法 修了河管法那也等同把过去非河家园这样的一个目标被迫重新开门重启河电 |
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那面對這樣的一個修法結果呢看到河山場這邊你們河安會也開始在做審查運轉執照換發的說明會我們大家好幾位委員都有提到4月28那場說明會那我不知道說下一場預定在什麼時候 |
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跟委員說明,那個再運轉計畫現在還在審查,所以要等到按照規劃就是審查快要告一個段落才會召開,到目前還不確定所以完全沒有辦法預估下一次那好幾位委員呢,也針對4月28這場書名會 |
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有幫各位來做一個檢討檢討就是希望改進改進就是希望下一次呢能夠聽到比較少的民怨那各位也都知道其實民怨很簡單他就是覺得說怎麼有的人知道我不知道怎麼有的人被邀我沒有被邀民怨就是呢為什麼不配合我方便的時間偏偏要找我那個很不方便的時間嘛 |
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但是呢那一天好幾個單位專家例如地球公民基金會主婦聯盟環境保護基金會又或者是像中山大學的研究能源的教授等等他們指出來的這個要需要反省檢討的其實非常的一致一致什麼呢就是第一個頁數很多700多頁708頁 |
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| transcript.whisperx[6].text |
另外一個就是說內容很難都是專業的術語所以一整個感覺包括民怨其實就代表著三個字感受就是不友善那我想當我們在做說明會就是要來進行溝通所以我希望像上次我有提醒不要只有邀請恆春滿洲還要記得邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
190.696 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
牡丹車城這個有改進了嗎但是今天講的這些我們是希望說能夠再一次的改進好包括事前意見的彙整這個也非常的重要你才能夠去準備嘛所以我在這邊想要請教一下那個我們和安會這邊有沒有自己專屬的網站或我講的不是網站我講的是那個粉絲專頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
192.981 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
215.447 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
臉書有沒有有的例如叫什麼服務小站核安會的服務小站那另外還有沒有沒有我看你們還有國家原子能科技研究院那是核安會監督的一個研究單位那一天4月28說明會有沒有參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
220.219 |
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248.037 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
有沒有參加 這個單位有沒有參加沒有沒有參加有還是沒有沒有沒有的原因是什麼他是不相干他是行政法人所以這個會是由和安會自己來主辦的我有特別進去看你們這兩個臉書那我特別去看說4月28的資訊有沒有沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
249.277 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
269.495 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
開完了之後有沒有相關的報導也沒有看到所以我們的意思是說其實溝通社會的溝通我們不斷的講和安社會的溝通非常的重要所以我這邊再增加一個提醒我甚至覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
270.492 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
280.306 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
你們可以把這一些很難讀懂的這些專業的報告術語為什麼不要製作短影音 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
281.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
308.96 |
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不一定要不僅是放在你們的臉書啊你們可以去轉發啊給在地的群組啊這個都是一個很好的服務嘛主委我講的這一些下一次會改進嗎會的 我也作為滾動式檢討這是我們重點要改進的部分我真的覺得你們要多做一點短影音嘛趕快發一發因為這是一個社會溝通非常好的管道可以嗎好 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
310.561 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
332.079 |
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所以在這個地方我只是要提醒地方的一個參與不是我們所謂的去政策宣導我希望這個部分一定要確保安全的對話空間然後你們提供出來的資訊一定要公開但是公開還要有不同意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
333.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
351.099 |
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的公開決策的理由的公開所以我希望重啟核電它不僅是技術的審查也是一種民主治理的展現所以在這個地方希望我們能夠破除這種所謂的不友善所謂的黑箱好不好好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
352.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
376.189 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
好謝謝那另外我還關心一個議題既然我們已經就三讀了我們就開啟了把門已經打開了本來要非核家園我們重啟核電我們還是要談一個回去談一個問題就是核子損害賠償法核子損害賠償法我知道的是這是民國60年發布的 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
378.962 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
403.997 |
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最近一次的修正呢是在民國86年1997那民國105年也就是這個21216年行政院曾經也有提出過修正條文想請教一下主委這個105年行政院曾經提出過的修正條文主要是關心什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
407.079 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
407.259 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
郭文貴議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
428.436 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
441.104 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
一一五 距離你們上一次想要修又十年對不對我知道的是民國六十年第一次發布的時候這個事故的賠償啊上限是七千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
442.495 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
466.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
所以在1997年民國86年的時候有修正過改為42億那105年我不知道你們的修正條文是什麼但是現在是115年你覺得要怎麼修正我們現在還在進展中會比上42億的幅度會增加很多那我們來看一下河島的福災 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
468.814 |
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492.68 |
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他截至目前他賠出去的金額是台幣5.22兆我們還在那邊一直炒黨軍購1.25兆多可怕多多會妨害民生妨礙很多國家的事務福島核災截至目前已經賠償5.22兆台幣主委您覺得如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
494.016 |
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513.767 |
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是 我們上次見到的數目我現在來說是偏低了所以一定會大幅提升好 那日本 德國 瑞士您說大幅提升 人家是無上限陪到滿意那我們可以符合這個目標嗎這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
519.235 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
533.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
很多國家的規則都算做 有個上限就不夠部分的有國家來所以我們沒有辦法像日本 德國 瑞士無上限我們是有上限 他們是無上限那我希望 你看這個數據美國5216億台幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
537.694 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
560.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
芬蘭我們都知道現在這個高階的核廢料芬蘭應該是全世界唯一有在做它是406億賠償上限英國385億台幣賠償上限所以我想這個部分我希望說未來像核賠罰第18條我們也提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
561.901 |
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578.619 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
國際武裝衝突我們知道這個是國際的共識免責啦免罰啦但是重大天然災害過去是免罰我們要不要修法你剛剛有說重大天然災害要不要修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
581.099 |
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602.567 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
要嘛所以我們現在行政院是要修法嘛因為已經像新版的巴黎公約他們已經認為重大天然災害應該是可以預防因應的天災的發生的範圍內對不對那我想這個部分該修我們就修我想現在大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
603.922 |
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633.168 |
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我們真的是希望非核啦但是因為已經修法三讀通過嘛那我們也只能往這個方向前進但是我覺得該做的特別是核安會核安會面對戰爭面對可能的天然災害我想核安會則無旁貸那兩個禮拜內是不是可以讓我知道修法的方向可以的好 謝謝主委 謝謝主席好 謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
634.367 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
635.096 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
谢谢吴力华 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[0].start |
2026-05-25T10:36:07.670000+08:00 |
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2026-05-25T10:36:08.611000+08:00 |
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謝謝主席，有請主委。 |
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0.75 |
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主席 |
| transcript.gazette[1].start |
2026-05-25T10:36:08.611000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-05-25T10:36:09.611000+08:00 |
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請主委。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2026-05-25T10:36:08.691000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[2].end |
2026-05-25T10:36:09.351000+08:00 |
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主委好。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
陳主任委員明真 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2026-05-25T10:36:09.351000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[3].end |
2026-05-25T10:36:21.966000+08:00 |
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委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[3].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2026-05-25T10:36:21.966000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2026-05-25T10:37:01.144000+08:00 |
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去年5月我們修了核管法，也等同過去非核家園的目標被迫重新開門、重啟核電，面對這樣的修法結果，我們看到針對核三廠，核安會也開始在進行審查運轉執照換發的說明會，好幾位委員都有提到4月28日那一場說明會，我不知道下一場預定在什麼時候？ |
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0.775 |
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高組長斌 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-05-25T10:37:04.937000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-05-25T10:37:16.806000+08:00 |
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跟委員說明，再運轉計畫現在還在審查，按照規劃要等到審查快要告一個段落，我們才會召開，目前還不確定召開時間。 |
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0.812 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-05-25T10:37:17.466000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-05-25T10:37:19.548000+08:00 |
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所以完全沒有辦法預估下一次。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-05-25T10:37:20.949000+08:00 |
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2026-05-25T10:37:35.197000+08:00 |
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好幾位委員針對4月28日這場說明會有幫各位做檢討，檢討就是希望改進，改進就是希望下一次能夠聽到比較少的民怨。 |
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0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-05-25T10:37:36.338000+08:00 |
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2026-05-25T10:37:45.123000+08:00 |
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各位也都知道，其實民怨很簡單，就是覺得怎麼有的人知道，但是我不知道；怎麼有的人被邀，但是我沒有被邀？ |
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0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-05-25T10:37:46.123000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-05-25T10:37:53.507000+08:00 |
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民怨就是為什麼不配合我方便的時間，偏偏要找我很不方便的時間？ |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-05-25T10:37:56.028000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-05-25T10:38:17.596000+08:00 |
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那一天好幾個單位的專家出席，例如地球公民基金會、主婦聯盟環境保護基金會，又或者像中山大學研究能源的教授等等，他們指出來需要反省檢討的部分其實非常一致，一致什麼呢？ |
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0.933 |
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伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-05-25T10:38:18.537000+08:00 |
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2026-05-25T10:38:29.262000+08:00 |
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第一個是頁數很多，總共有708頁；另外一個是內容很難，都是專業的術語。 |
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0.857 |
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伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-05-25T10:38:29.262000+08:00 |
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2026-05-25T10:38:36.166000+08:00 |
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所以一整個感覺包括民怨就是三個字，感受就是「不友善」！ |
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0.957 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-05-25T10:38:37.386000+08:00 |
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2026-05-25T10:39:03.625000+08:00 |
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我想召開說明會就是要進行溝通，像上次我有提醒，不要只有邀請恆春、滿州的民眾，還要記得邀請牡丹、車城的民眾，這個有改進了，但是針對今天講的這些問題，我們希望能夠再一次改進，包括事前意見的彙整，這個也非常重要，這樣你才能去準備嘛！ |
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0.851 |
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伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-05-25T10:39:04.626000+08:00 |
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2026-05-25T10:39:20.562000+08:00 |
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我想要請教一下，核安會有沒有自己專屬的臉書粉絲專頁？有的。 |
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0.885 |
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伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
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2026-05-25T10:39:22.682000+08:00 |
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2026-05-25T10:39:24.263000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
叫什麼？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
高組長斌 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-05-25T10:39:24.583000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-05-25T10:39:24.783000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
輻務小站。 |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-05-25T10:39:25.823000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-05-25T10:39:31.645000+08:00 |
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好，核安會的輻務小站，另外還有沒有？沒有。 |
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0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-05-25T10:39:32.605000+08:00 |
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2026-05-25T10:39:34.845000+08:00 |
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我看你們還有國家原子能科技研究院啊！ |
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0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
陳主任委員明真 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-05-25T10:39:35.005000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-05-25T10:39:39.987000+08:00 |
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那是核安會監督的研究單位，是一個法人。 |
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0.765 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-05-25T10:39:40.267000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-05-25T10:39:46.819000+08:00 |
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4月28日的說明會他們有沒有參加？ |
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0.692 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-05-25T10:39:47.420000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-05-25T10:39:48.801000+08:00 |
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這個單位有沒有參加？沒有。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-05-25T10:39:49.461000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-05-25T10:39:49.881000+08:00 |
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沒有參加？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-05-25T10:39:51.002000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-05-25T10:39:52.123000+08:00 |
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有還是沒有？沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-05-25T10:39:52.963000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-05-25T10:39:55.685000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
沒有的原因是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-05-25T10:39:56.926000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-05-25T10:39:57.286000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
不相干？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
高組長斌 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-05-25T10:39:58.327000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-05-25T10:40:02.990000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
它是行政法人，所以這是由核安會自己來主辦的。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-05-25T10:40:03.990000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-05-25T10:40:17.660000+08:00 |
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我特別進去看你們這兩個臉書，我特別去看有沒有4月28日的資訊，結果沒有看到；說明會開完之後有沒有相關報導？ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.804 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-05-25T10:40:17.660000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-05-25T10:40:18.460000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
結果也沒有看到。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-05-25T10:40:20.422000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-05-25T10:40:46.286000+08:00 |
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我們的意思是要溝通，我們不斷地講針對核安，其實社會的溝通非常重要，所以我要再增加一個提醒，我甚至覺得你們為什麼不把這一些很難讀懂的專業報告術語製作成短影音？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.822 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-05-25T10:40:47.940000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-05-25T10:40:58.848000+08:00 |
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不僅僅是放在你們的臉書，你們可以轉發給在地的群組，這個都是很好的服務嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.97 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-05-25T10:41:00.069000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-05-25T10:41:03.091000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
主委，我講的這一些下一次會改進嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
陳主任委員明真 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-05-25T10:41:03.091000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-05-25T10:41:07.975000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
會的，我們也會滾動式檢討，這些是我們要重點改進的部分。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-05-25T10:41:07.995000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-05-25T10:41:14.940000+08:00 |
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我真的覺得你們要多做一點短影音，趕快發一發，因為這是一個社會溝通非常好的管道可以嗎？好。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-05-25T10:41:17.822000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-05-25T10:41:43.545000+08:00 |
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我只是要提醒地方的參與不是所謂的政策宣導，我希望這個部分一定要確保安全的對話空間，然後你們提供出來的資訊一定要公開，而且還要有不同意見的公開、決策理由的公開。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.973 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-05-25T10:41:43.705000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-05-25T10:41:57.079000+08:00 |
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我希望重啟核電不僅僅是技術的審查，也是一種民主治理的展現，希望我們能夠破除所謂的不友善及所謂的黑箱，好不好？好的。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-05-25T10:41:58.080000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-05-25T10:41:59.361000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-05-25T10:41:59.521000+08:00 |
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2026-05-25T10:42:49.997000+08:00 |
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另外，我還很關心一個議題，既然我們已經三讀通過，我們也就開啟了，已經把門打開了，本來是非核家園，我們現在要重啟核電，我們還是要回去談一個問題，就是核子損害賠償法，我知道這是在民國60年公布的，最近一次的修正是在民國86年（1997年），在民國105年（2016年）行政院曾經也有提出修正條文，我想請教一下主委，行政院在105年提出的修正條文主要是關心什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.88 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
陳主任委員明真 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-05-25T10:42:49.997000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-05-25T10:43:15.437000+08:00 |
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我們覺得就是需要修正，我們會朝檢討免責事由、其次是損害賠償責任金額以及延長請求權時效這三大方向，依照國際公約，做為未來修法的參考。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-05-25T10:43:15.437000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-05-25T10:43:20.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
好，現在是115年，距離你們上一次想要修法的時間已經有10年了，對不對？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-05-25T10:43:20.100000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-05-25T10:43:43.078000+08:00 |
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據我所知，在民國60年第一次公布的時候，事故的賠償上限是7,000萬，在1997年（民國86年）有修正為42億，那我不知道你們在105年所提修正條文的內容，現在已經是115年，你覺得要怎麼修正？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.794 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
陳主任委員明真 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-05-25T10:43:43.658000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-05-25T10:43:48.899000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
我們現在還在檢討之中，會比上次的42億增加很大的幅度。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.609 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-05-25T10:43:50.479000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-05-25T10:44:18.660000+08:00 |
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好，我們來看一下福島的核災截至目前所賠償的金額是臺幣5.22兆，我們還在那邊一直吵，擋軍購，1.25兆是多可怕、會妨害民生、妨害很多國家的事務，可是福島核災截至目前已經賠償了5.22兆臺幣，主委，您覺得如何？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.859 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
陳主任委員明真 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-05-25T10:44:20.016000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-05-25T10:44:26.880000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
是，我們上次訂的數目以現在來說是偏低了，所以一定會大幅提升。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.926 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-05-25T10:44:27.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-05-25T10:44:39.767000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
好，您說會大幅提升，像日本、德國、瑞士是無上限，就是賠到滿意，我們可以符合這個目標嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.694 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
陳主任委員明真 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-05-25T10:44:45.235000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-05-25T10:44:50.661000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
現在很多國家都是這樣做，就是有一個上限，不夠的部分由國家來賠償。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.586 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-05-25T10:44:50.661000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-05-25T10:44:56.387000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
所以我們沒有辦法像日本、德國、瑞士一樣無上限，我們是有上限，他們是無上限。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-05-25T10:44:59.009000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-05-25T10:45:17.317000+08:00 |
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你看這個數據，美國是5,216億臺幣；還有芬蘭，我們都知道現在芬蘭應該是全世界唯一有在做高階核廢料的國家，芬蘭賠償的上限是406億；英國的賠償上限是385億臺幣。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.646 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-05-25T10:45:19.158000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-05-25T10:45:31.785000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
關於這個部分，依核賠法第十八條規定，如果是國際武裝衝突造成的，就是免責、免罰，我們知道這是國際的共識。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.556 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-05-25T10:45:34.248000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-05-25T10:45:40.254000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
但是重大天然災害所造成的，在過去是免罰，我們要不要修法？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-05-25T10:45:41.796000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-05-25T10:45:43.237000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
你剛剛有說啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-05-25T10:45:43.237000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-05-25T10:45:47.339000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
重大天然災害這個部分要不要修法？要的。要嘛？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.65 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-05-25T10:45:47.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-05-25T10:45:50+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
所以現在行政院是要修法嘛？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-05-25T10:45:51.961000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-05-25T10:46:02.905000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
像新版的巴黎公約，他們認為重大天然災害應該是可以預防、因應的，就是在天災發生的範圍內，對不對？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.907 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-05-25T10:46:03.125000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-05-25T10:46:19.764000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
我想如果這個部分該修，我們就修，現在大家真的是希望非核，但是因為修法已經三讀通過了，那我們也只能往這個方向前進。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.902 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-05-25T10:46:19.764000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-05-25T10:46:36.087000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
但是我覺得該做的，特別是核安會，面對戰爭、面對可能發生的天然災害，我想核安會責無旁貸，是不是可以在兩個禮拜內讓我知道修法的方向？可以。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.85 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-05-25T10:46:36.567000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-05-25T10:46:38.288000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
好，謝謝主委，謝謝主席。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
陳主任委員明真 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-05-25T10:46:39.148000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-05-25T10:46:39.168000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-05-25T10:46:39.668000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-05-25T10:46:43.953714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
謝謝伍麗華召委的質詢，主委請回座。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
主席（伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員） |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-05-25T10:46:44.253714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-05-25T10:46:48.825143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
接下來我們有請蔡春綢委員進行詢答。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0 |