| IVOD_ID |
169497 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169497 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-07 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-07T09:37:33+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-07T09:50:09+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:36 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e8e93c7ebde79baefa8abd696a9fe5f1ac8cf253909adb97f33cb96c67259dbbb2c76d9d4ef1a3e25ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:37:33 - 09:50:09 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-07T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆就「金融科技發展業務之推動情形與展望」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、繼續審查本院台灣民眾黨黨團、委員林思銘等21人分別擬具「虛擬資產服務法草案」等2案。
三、審查行政院函請審議、本院委員葛如鈞等20人、委員林楚茵等19人、委員賴惠員等17人、委員李彥秀等19人、委員賴士葆等20人分別擬具「虛擬資產服務法草案」等6案。【行政院函請審議、本院委員賴惠員等17人及委員李彥秀等19人提案如經院會復議，本次會議不予審查】【本院委員賴士葆等20人提案須經各黨團簽署不復議同意書】） |
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謝謝主席以及各位先進有請經管會的彭主委請彭主委委員早安主委早我現在看到幾乎這個股市熱呼呼的啦看到一到四月的上四季的平均成交量 |
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上市Plus上過1.09兆 將近1.1兆昨天到1.8兆這個是不是很快會破2兆會不會主委這個 謝謝 謝謝委員我剛才已經說過了我是金管會主委我不會對未來市場做任何的預期 |
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但是你要關心 我們要關心一個就是大家會擔心的是說會不會過熱 有沒有overheating所以我剛剛也已經重複過了主管機關他在關心的並不是對未來他有什麼樣的預期我會做這個事情我是在意市場是不是公平效率安全跟有沒有讓市場機制發揮現在 |
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因為我看到有些報導寫到了有政經公司每日的現代股票指壓縮水到10萬街星環球一被禁止這個是不是背後有你的影子在那裡 |
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其實就是剛才我們那個委員詢問的問題就我們過去很久以來我們對於這些證券商跟證金公司他資金取得跟資金貸放都有一定的規範這已經既有並不是這樣就是現在的規範就是這樣那各自他們在營運活動上面他們自己的選擇那當然 |
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沒有我先問你是具體的啦因為這已經媒體揭露了說現代縮水到10萬而且借新還舊被禁止有沒有這回事啦我想喔我跟你講我們的規範就規定在這邊我們不會對日常營運活動去做任何的這樣的一個這麼細緻的指導到這種程度所以你沒有任何的指導就對了 |
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沒有 我想這部分我們只是跟因為媒體有問我們說這個是不是要做一些調整我們也去了解一下就是說我們現在的規定就是長這樣其實很多那個實際的狀況我們就把它說明就剛才講跟前位委員說明的一樣我們現在的市場態度要怎麼放 |
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因為今天我們關係這個題目因為大家現在看起來都會賺錢有人把房子抵押貸款投入股市之類當然都我們的祝福能夠賺到錢很好萬一這個cycle很難說啊這個東西來講金管委也是要去 |
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我想在立法院我講過多少次就是資本市場不確定性高當然是這樣我們都謹慎投資注意風險管理每次幾乎都是一樣這個大概就是一個大家對投資都該有的基本的概念所以你要不要再次喊話一下請大家注意風險沒有我剛剛就講過過去我們監理就是一向中性的 |
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那我就給你看一下具體數字我們2300萬人開戶的超過1400萬相當高比例實際進出了700萬餘戶等於三分之一的台灣人投入股市最值得注意的我覺得成年人自己負責你看開戶的0到19歲 |
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開戶數佔整個開戶的1400萬開戶的5%左右這個很可怕的事情你小孩子上課看手機看股市這個東西難道不值得金管會去注意這個現象目前這樣這是你們的資料這都是我們教育所的資料 |
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待會可以請交易所起來說明一下我只跟委員說明一下我們過去台股其實我們散戶參與率本來就很高我們過去長期都1000戶以上最近當然多一點當然就像比如說假設我發現說我發覺考駕照的是以19歲到20歲人新增駕照最多 |
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那當然啊因為他就是剛可以考駕照所以他當然增加速度是比較多所以我們看整個比重假設你從這個數字看好像這些年輕人開戶的比增加率比較高這當然是啊因為他的比重是以他來講所以你都不擔心就對了不是你都不擔心不是不擔心我還蠻擔心的人你都不擔心 |
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委員不要簡化這個問題我只是說 當然要簡化 要聽到話任何人就像他開始才會參與股市對不對但我們看這個數字的本身就是因為這樣看好像年輕人都去參與不是這個意思就是年輕人一定是在比如說開戶上所以你那位就是健康的正常者沒有關係是不是不是 你是這個意思不是 委員你都想把它簡化這個問題我只是跟講數字最後我要簡化人家比較好下標啊就是這樣子啊 |
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這個對年輕人積極投入 這個金管會主委彭主委說正面看待 正面看待 這樣我就聽你下杯好了我沒有這樣說啦你這樣說啊 就這個意思啊其實就像剛才講說我們看出去I read your lips 就是這樣啊我讀你的嘴 嘴唇就這樣子的 感謝你 |
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那我低一點就看不到不過謝謝你的關心我只是說看到這個數字 背後大家把他簡化成就是說你現在是正常 你認為都正常我想 |
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剛才委員提到的這個19歲的這個數字是事實上是正確的那事實上對交易所來講的話我們有我們有我們的制度的管理那我跟委員報告基本上我們對於像這種未成年不到20歲19歲我們都是整戶的管理可以說就是說他基本上他有一些華定代理人或怎麼樣所以他的一些壽信或怎麼樣是整戶的去考量那個本市委我要請教你 |
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你能不能夠他們這個年輕的低於就是還沒有滿20歲的類似醜陰一樣 說醜陰有害健康什麼之類的 你要不要說投資有賺有賠 要小心風險啊給他囉嗦幾句 彭主委祝福你賺錢但是要注意風險 你不要嚇幾句啊 這樣會死你嗎會死你嗎 你會死你嗎我想委員祝福也很夠啦我想說這個部分 |
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跟委員報告 事實上來講的話 我們證交所 相關周邊單位都有到各個校園裡面做長期性的宣導所以委員你提的這些部分所以要注意風險對 我們都有要注意風險 然後呢 這個風險支付然後盡可能不要去舉債投入股市 會這樣說嗎 |
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那是委員說的啦你不同意喔?委員一直希望把您的話放在我嘴巴講出來我好希望喔 |
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謝謝謝謝委員我想每個人有自己不同的看法剛才其實林董事長也說了他針對比如說比較初入市場的這些的投資人其實每個人成年以後都有自己的決定權沒有這個沒有成年人19歲以下的沒有我們現在就是等於說他具有這個開戶的權益的話我想對那個所以你還是 |
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你不贊成說裡面增加警語要不要不是 我們不要講警語來提醒他我可以請交易所去研議這樣對於不同的投資人如何去做好投資交易針對20歲以下的投資人他每次開戶我們就提醒他投資有賺有賠 |
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其實我會請那個交易所全面去研究各種不同的投資人該如何去做投資教育我想這個比較完整對 我就問你 你可不可以加上這個分樓啦 這樣子對 我說包括我們的這個比較年輕的投資人跟甚至有些什麼特殊的投資人我請交易所來通盤來研究什麼時候可以研究出來 |
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一個月可以嗎可以 跟委員報告事實上來講的話不只是剛剛昨天講的不只是20歲以下事實上我們現在新開復的人數事實上來講都比去年都多所以我們基本上我們現在是40幾萬嘛第一季事實上多了我們現在開復的話是大概是去年的我們第一季的話大概是去年的65%整年的65% |
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這個數字那現在交易所現在除了房價以外呢我們事實上已經在市場推廣部呢已經想針對這些新開戶的如何新進到股市的不管各年級在做推廣我再看一個題目喔來 說南華贊助 南華贊助經濟生產率13.69% 三月底 |
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上市櫃的漲幅超過大盤的211家將近20%上櫃的161家18.5%也就是說你進去股市除了除非你買到這20%否則你是屬於大盤的沒賺錢耶沒賺錢耶大盤也在漲還要超過大盤是outperform對不對 |
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其實你看 相對玉竹啊 我們看到有些股票都躺在那裡啊所以我要講的是 你過去以前推普玉計畫 到現在都沒有縮 都沒有縮 都沒有縮其實我剛才講說 我已經講那個數字是說超過大盤的那大概兩成左右嘛 上市櫃都兩成 其實我們大盤怎麼這樣走 |
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你的埔育啊你的埔育啊你的埔育啊那埔育指數我請教育組說他們現在努力的結果跟委員報告事實上來講的話你上次關心的埔育的那相關的商品會在今年大概下半年就會出來了 |
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下半年會出來那其他的埔育的指數的推廣基本上我們從五月我們交易所就開始有相關的法說會我們經濟成長率超過13%好歹平均的股價都要超過13%現在有些都沒有最後一個我這個小問題我們請央行的長官一起來好嗎央行的長官一起就是問你一下這個 |
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我們目前還是認為這個是屬於虛擬資產虛擬資產但是現在有穩定幣 難道是嗎 |
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穩定幣比較特別一點點但是目前我們還是依據你們不介紹還是不介紹就是第一個穩定幣都知道它是綁定綁定比如USDC或是USDT它基本上是沒有利息的但是現在都在網路上都 |
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APP裡面都看到它都有利息5%幾% 這個有沒有問題啊來 主委 這個有沒有問題它如果列出來說 喂 你買我的穩定幣5%給你這個有沒有習近的問題我想 如果我有注意到美國最近在熱烈討論的清晰法案裡面對這個東西有非常多的討論 |
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他說如果你沒有做任何作為的話在美國未來是不可以就是說沒有任何交易的價值提升不可以提供這個報酬等於說單純發行穩定幣持有人是未來在美國經濟法案上面是不同意的但接下來經過交易或什麼它是可以產生這樣一個報酬的我們最快台灣最快什麼時候可以開始正式開放每一個單位或者個人可以發行穩定幣就是等於說這個都 |
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取決在我們立法院的速度立法三途通過就可以了三途通過執法執法在六個月之內要完備就可以開始接受申請謝謝 |