| IVOD_ID |
169490 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169490 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-20T12:42:24+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-20T12:50:12+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:48 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e8e93c7ebde79bae9fe30b9d71885762b2ebd91c2d73985bc1cc10fc392248b28406a17fcd3ca4bb5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
廖先翔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:42:24 - 12:50:12 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分關於經濟部主管：台灣電力股份有限公司、台灣糖業股份有限公司。(詢答)
【所列預算提案於115年6月5日(星期五)下午5時截止收件】
【5月20日及5月21日二天一次會】） |
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好 謝謝主席 我要邀請我們部長跟台聯董事長我們請部長跟曾董事長 |
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兩位好 這個先確認一下 我們電動車還是我們國家發展的國家政策方向嘛對不對是那發展了之外就是要很多的一些其他的配套 那其中一個就是我們的電力那是不是可以先請我們的董事長跟部長說明一下我們的這個針對這個電動車啦 它的充電那其實它是也是有這個時間電價的差別 |
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也就是說已經就是那種外面的那種快充站如果說他有申請時間限價的話那離峰跟尖峰分別大概是多少錢那個我跟委員報告好不好離峰跟尖峰的價格大概三跟十二塊一個八塊多一個八塊多一個四塊兩塊多對大概三塊應該十二塊三塊跟十二塊那這個如果說你是業者的話你大概會怎麼定價 |
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那個跟你是說充電的業者對假設你是業者的話你要賣電給電動車主嗎你大概會怎麼定價我這樣講啊那個當然是量量出為入嘛就是很簡單我我我用付了多少電費加上攤體來來收取可能的合理費用啊沒有既然我們有時間電價的話業者還會做的是如果說我現在這個時間電價是假設3塊錢那我就由3塊錢往上加 |
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如果現在時間定價是12塊的話那我就是從12塊往上加那我們是消費者的話加起來也算3塊一張紙對不對 |
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那也是說我們一天飛夏季的時候我們大概其實這應該有委員談論這個公車業者也是一樣的問題那現在就是普通的消費者我們飛夏季的時候3到9嘛對不對下午3到9那夏季的話是下午的4到10那也就是說在尖峰時間這段間價的時間定價是非常高的那我們的 |
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車主會避開在這段時間去充電嘛這是合理的一個消費行為那也就是說我們扣掉上班時間一般的上班族可能上班時間你一般來說也不太會去充電啊那導致說他下班之後他下班之後要去充電他要等到九點之後非夏季的時候九點鐘夏季的時間要十點之後他才能夠有比較便宜的電價去充電 |
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那會造成許多的車主在充電上面在時間調配上面非常的不方便我不確定台電或者是經濟部長我們工部長有沒有對這個電動車主有沒有接觸過這樣的一個訊息 |
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報告委員因為夜間風時間本來就是電力比較需要的時候那時候電價本來就當然我理解你們為什麼會這樣子嘛跟其他一樣我們有間離風嘛但是我們今天如果說我們是開遊車我們24小時隨時去加入一樣的錢啊但是當我們國家我剛剛就先問部長我們國家在推動電動車的時候我們要幫電動車的車主去排除他一些使用上面的障礙嗎 |
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包括充電就是他們在時間上面的一個不方便的狀態他們要需要等到晚上9點之後10點之後他才有比較便宜的一個電價可以使用這件事情明顯起來他就是一個抗力跟阻力讓大家去買電動車嘛我們現在也支持廣設這個電動樁你停車的地方就有電動樁那你停了以後你去上班的時候也有電動樁我現在提出這個問題 |
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你們我想這個問題今天我提出來你們要不要正式嘛是是是保安委員因為如果大家全部都擠在這個下班以後來充電的話那這個再怎麼樣電力上的這個台電喔台電的這個 |
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電力的問題嘛 我們知道嘛 所以說這個時間點啊 醒來醒來已久了 醒來已久了但是以前大部分受到影響的大概都是工廠比較受到影響對不對 他們可以自己調配這個上下班的時間但是一般的電動車主不是啊 |
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那之前我們確定是部長還是這個董事長有針對公車業者之前公車業者也有提出這樣子的需求委員在這邊提出來公車業者有這樣的需求你們評估要來檢討那現在一般的廣大消費者也有這樣的一個問題啊我們可不可以並來檢討 |
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跟委員說明一下第一個就是離尖峰的差別電價全世界都是不是台電自己做的第一點第二點我們的離尖峰的方案有不同的方案那你如果是充電裝業者那你可以來選擇台電提供的方案比照公車業者這當然沒有問題是啊大部分都是這樣子啊所以我目前就提出來部長現在我問你提出來你要不要解決嗎 |
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欸不是啊 就是我們已經提了方案給公車業者選啦它有兩段式 有三段式大部分都兩段式啊 就剛剛講的3到9 4到10沒有沒有 現在有三段式可以選那三段式也是有最便宜的跟貴的嘛對不對 |
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本來就有便宜跟貴的 便宜的時間很長啊沒關係啊 如果說你們台電不認為這個電動車的推廣電動車主遇到的一些實際上的問題不是國家政策的話你把這個事情丟到那個店家上面講部長不講話我也沒意見啦這個不通啦部長沒意見我也沒意見啦反正你們就是口頭上說要推動電動車然後反正電動車主提出的問題你們就說這個業者的事還是消費者的事不關我的事 |
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另外一個小問題就是它在離間封另外一個小問題啦另外一個小問題啦也是這個消費者使用的一個問題啦一般來說我們平常上班就出去嘛那連假也是大家出去了高峰期但是我們的時間電價在過去喔 |
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因為也沒有牽扯到一般的電動車消費者的問題我們大概以今年為例4月3號到4月6號是國定假日但是我們這個是行政院公告的這個國定假日4月3號到6號但是我們台電的這個尖離風的這個表大概只有4月4號跟4月5號因為4月3號跟4月6號是國定假日 |
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我講過是補價但是我們台電就把補價當作一般日在算這個建立方的電價這沒錯嘛對不對我們確實是依照著國定假日在做安排的這也是依照政府的規劃但你們跟行政院上面的紅字是不一樣的對不對沒錯吧今年的4月3號跟4月6號你們是用一般日在算啊 |
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我這樣子說 我們本來就是有一個規則在你現在是建議說彈性休假 |
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應該把它放到離風去要不要一體下去離風我尊重你們但是我提出來就是電動車主的需求我離風就是我連駕的時候我會出去嘛但是我要出去的時候這一點導致我們可以來評估因為講簡單一點就是彈線休假以後它就容易變離風那我們就來我們就讓它在實質離風這件事情做反應 |
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好 那謝謝董事長 願意在這點上面做談論我現在今天提出來就是我是一個電動車主那我在實際上我知道很多電動車主都會遇到的一些問題那既然電動車是國家持續推廣的方向那我也希望台電是提供能源的一個角度那也可以多傾聽電動車主的意見來做政策上面電價的一些調整好 那就麻煩部長 謝謝 |