| IVOD_ID |
169477 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169477 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-20T11:24:58+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-20T11:38:01+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:03 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e8e93c7ebde79baefd53d18701a46c008366f596cea4852f4e525a9eb6f1b732f0c54870947c465d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅明才 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:24:58 - 11:38:01 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請財政部莊部長翠雲與公股行庫董事長及金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆就「公股金融機構數位轉型、人力招募、員工權益及中長期整併規劃」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案行政院歲入預算有關中央銀行股息紅利繳庫部分、財政部及所屬單位歲入預算部分。（僅詢答）
三、審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案有關賦稅署、臺北國稅局、高雄國稅局、北區國稅局及所屬、中區國稅局及所屬、南區國稅局及所屬歲出預算部分。（僅詢答）
【5月20日及21日二天一次會】
【預算提案截止時間：5月21日（四）下午5時】） |
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主席各位請莊部長還有央行請莊部長,央行原副總裁原副總裁喔然後政企局的局長對不對?委員好沒有啦,副局長喔來,那個幾位重要的財經官員大家好現在那個股市啊嗆嗆叫啊那部長 |
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現在那個當沖降稅時間又快到了要不要打算再延啊那明年底啊明年底的一轉眼就到了啊現在我們看到當沖可以說是這一次的整個股市熱絡的一個重要的推手的一環當初如果沒有當沖降稅那今天也不大可能會漲到4萬點啊 |
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那對於當沖降稅部長會不會想那就確定讓他明確化畢竟請那個央行副總裁上來其實有一個重大的意義就是台灣現在整個股市的市值是全世界的第六大第六大我們覺得這樣就滿意了嗎 |
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委員因為中央銀行的角色不合適在這邊去評論股市的一個問題那你們今天很厲害啊你們的腳褲要繳多少上繳兩千億什麼原醫院以前到達一千七百億一千八百億怎麼會多出三百億 |
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我們前幾年就開始有提高到兩千億了都到兩千億嗎對是什麼原因跟十年前一樣因為我們的外匯資產規模也擴大了所以這個是一個關鍵因素規模擴大現在外匯存底是多少六千零二十四億的樣子六千多億那我剛有看到黃金王子有來到現場 |
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台銀的楊天立黃金王子黃金王子在十年前他就大力的叫好黃金未來的發展你認不認識這位 |
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請上來一下副總裁好像不大認識沒有沒有我在電視上聽過他的演講我馬上幫你介紹一下楊天立讓台灣未來你的金庫越來越美麗就在你後面那一位認識一下講得很準啊十年前每盎司就從大概是一千兩百七十塊一盎司漲到快五千塊啊 |
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那央行對於黃金未來的發展是看多還是看空因為我們過去黃金作為我們一個發行準備我們覺得維持那樣子的存量跟其他國家來比也是一個非常適中的情況所以我們過去都沒有再考慮去增持黃金的問題 |
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那現在美國30年的公債殖利率已經跌破5%啦你會不會考量說手上對美元的這些債券是要增加還是要減持我們會看整個金融市場的利率的狀況我們會去調整我們的外匯存底的配置好啦 戰爭結束利率都下降所以你怎麼看你是說那個美國伊朗 |
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你是說美國的殖利率是吧對30年殖利率已經跌破了5%沒有最近這幾天他其實那個殖利率又在飆升的還蠻高的所以央行的看法是怎麼樣 |
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其實因為我們只是國際市場的美債的一個參與者我們會注意這個問題但是我們不太可能去評估副總裁因為現在台灣整個股市的情況不一樣當然雖然是第六名本席還是期許他有機會可以成長到全世界的排名大概五名內有沒有這樣的可能跟機會 |
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我剛才講過我們央行的角色可能不方便去評好那請莊部長然後那個黃金王子在後面你是主動跟那個副總裁報告一下十年前要他聽你的建議那央行賺得盆滿缽滿是不是你們那個黃金王子報告一下好那莊部長 |
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不好意思啊 借財啦 因為他是台灣銀行裡面的高財神啊那接著就要請教一下 莊部長未來啊 我們這個整個市場變化我們期許台灣越來越好啊有沒有機會上看全世界前五大的這個自由經濟市場的這個交易 |
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我們都期望台灣越來越好好 既然期望要好 制度要改變了首先就講投信投信你現在4加1那你4加1整個站的股本是多大現在4加1哪4加 |
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第一還有華南、兆豐跟合庫這四家合庫也有加起來它的市占大概是多少市占多少我想請那個數據我們等一下先查一下再提供跟委員報告你一邊查其實外界都在看說你這個四家併起來到底代表什麼意義只是為了說大家喊四加一就四加一四加合併變一加 |
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那究竟他在市場上有沒有很強大的力度?他的目標到底是什麼?你4加1的市占是多少?光是一家元大投信,來你把數據跟大家講元大要投信,他的市值有多大?他的市占有多大? |
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他光發一個0050啊就每一年也沒做什麼事坐在那邊開開心心的每年就賺到兩三百億啊好 你現在剛剛所講的這世家合併那你們要推出什麼你們未來的計畫是什麼 |
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不是因為為了找位置 大家併來併去吧把經營規模擴大 能夠擴大它的中小我想這是主要的目的因為都比較小這世家併起來都小小的啦世家併起來一定比原來大嘛對 大多少那個多少 我們這個數字等一下再提供給您加起來市占不過2.4%啦 |
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部長你如果在市場上真的要發揮他的影響力的話有時候政策上的一個目標起碼應該要市政要20%以上吧會不會考慮再增資委員您的意思是說不要併是吧因為併了也不夠大不是 併了還不夠嘛你併只是第一步你第二步要做什麼而且因應未來整個台灣如果發展成為全世界的前五大的 |
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證券交易所的市場的交易一樣像每天日均值都超過一兆啦要做好準備另外公股裡面有沒有期貨公司公股裡面有啊有嘛哪一家有啊哪一家是有兆豐兆豐期貨是不是我們現在這個變成有點扭曲市場變得越來越大現在的期貨可以趕得上市場的變化嗎 |
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來 請那個經管會我們都知道 期貨的功能啊有時候就是 |
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Market Maker造勢有時候他是未來增加他的那個交易的量現在目前的期貨的情況副主委你覺得現在滿意嗎萬一萬一啊很快到年底或者明年台灣股市要漲到五萬點以上 |
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交易都熱絡 成交量 日期量每天都超過一兆五千億的時候我們期貨的能量夠不夠現在目前它的 ANC可不可以符合現在整個市場膨脹的這個量 |
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是 以目前期貨商來這邊來看的話我們大概是四家專營的資本額的話是203億它資產是8490億所以看起來是有它的一個規模但是如同我前面所講因為這一年來我們這個股市大概漲了大概38%左右1萬點漲到4萬點 |
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所以是說在這個情況之下的確目前為止的話我想是說業界有反映他ANC因為ANC這個地方呢 低於20%要向本會來申報低於15%應該停止借單但是我們看來現在統計數據上面的話大概平均還有29點多 |
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很多的民眾要下單啊這個期貨商已經接不了啦都拒接啊是 其實它還有一個應變的一個措施美國啊 美國它的這個ANC啊 它的比例是多少 |
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美國計算方式跟我們國內不太一樣所以分子分母的儲存都不太相同我們現在平均不是到15%嗎因為我們的分母是調整後的資本金額分子是所謂客戶保證金其實裡面的參數的話是目前為止我們可以來檢討我們可以來檢討這部分讓期貨商他有更大能量來建新倉那把產品繼續推出來 |
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我們要與時激進啊對不對像期貨未來有開放更多的黃金交易啊甚至跟美國一樣啊你可以開放一些那個虛擬貨幣的交易市場啊是其實它有一個所謂的擴張就是創造信用跟一個未來的一個避險這也是我們在擴大我們的資本市場呢在這個地方要給我們投資人然後自然跟法人也要有避險的一個工具所以是說在這個部分我們會持續的努力 |
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那副主委最後如果台股漲上五萬點未來台灣的整個教育量教育市值可以超過前面的前五大那你其他的相關配套你準備好了嗎 |
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其實我們在這個部分的話不管在證券商的融資的部分以及委員這次提到的ANC的部分以及我們在ETF上面的產品上的設計讓它多元化以及呢普遇指數我們不單單只看台積電我們也必須就是說台積電的確把我們整個市場拉上去而同時的中小企業的股票 |
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就是他們的不管是股份數或者是說它的一個價值也在提升剛剛有講我們是挑時不偏時所以是說我們不單單會在AI以及我們的科技產業我們要在我們的傳統產業以及其他的後職實力方面把大大小整個把它拉上來這樣才有辦法去達到說第五第四一直往上好 台股有沒有可能挑戰五萬點 |
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那你要做好準備啊 |
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是做好最好的準備啦萬一五萬點以後整個情況要不一樣嘛對我們也會對投資人加以宣導就是說不要再看那個指數幾點幾點要看%數因為這跟以前的一萬點兩萬點整個思維已經完全不一樣這我們也會持續對於金融教育的宣導我們也會不管是對於機構對個人好謝謝那個書面書面一併回答好不好好是再詳細的回答洛洛園好了好謝謝 |
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