| IVOD_ID |
169459 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169459 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-20T10:05:53+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-20T10:16:01+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:08 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e8e93c7ebde79bae8d74e9500ab63bf33847d5ba5f4714201cbc05507f2af6346cf135525ed714a05ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王鴻薇 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:05:53 - 10:16:01 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：邀請原住民族委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人原住民族文化事業基金會董事長與財團法人原住民族語言研究發展基金會董事長列席報告業務概況(含上會期臨時提案辦理情形) ，並備質詢。） |
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黃鴻薇委員發言質詢好 謝謝主席我請我們的主委好 麻煩主委 |
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我們在這次的審查預算裡面我個人非常重視的就是各主管機關的沒宣費所以我帶各機關的沒宣費怎麼樣去執行包含他是不是當用者用或者他的標案有沒有過度集中在特定的媒體 |
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那我會發現我們園民會這個問題確實非常非常的嚴重我上面所羅列出來的是一共從這個111年事實上早在如果從左邊看109年開始的一個到今年度的一個 |
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就是電子媒體的勞務採購案的標案可以看到從109年開始一直到今年度都只有一家媒體得標都只有一家媒體就是民視 |
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我之前曾經提過我們中央政府的煤靴預算過度集中在綠煤的部分那民視本來他的金額就非常非常的龐大但是我們在原民會來看的話他的 |
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這個集中度更高而且還有一個問題喔也就是說我今天羅列大概橫跨六年的電子媒體的這個勞務採購但事實上大部分的年度都只有一家來標少部分可能會到兩家像109年是有四家來標109年的時候還有四家大家可能覺得都可以來園民會來標一下 |
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後來大家會發現說原民會獨宗民事所以呢後來來標的人就越來越少了即便裡面譬如說有財團法人花蓮縣的叫做務勞部列部列文化產業發展協會或者是今年有一個生養網路但是都是陪標者所以 |
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主委這個沒宣費的過度集中啊這麼長的一個時間我覺得這是非常非常不正常的即便在其他相關單位也不會像園民會這樣子的一個直接大拉拉的明顯另外請教 |
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我們援助民族日的宣傳那這是很重要可是同樣的我們援助民族日的宣傳在電子媒體的採購的部分我覺得非常奇怪 |
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又通通都是民事甚至包含在網路上也是民事電子媒體民事網路上也民事那我覺得很奇怪啊我們不是有圓明台嗎按照我們圓明台所今天做的報告也有很多的表現不管是新聞不管是專題製造製作或者是這些深度的訪談 |
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為什麼一定都只有民視才能做呢我有去查民視所做的事情是什麼呢就是這樣子啊你們原住民族日的活動他有新聞露出然後他做了一個專題報告然後做了一些所謂的訪談我們原民台不能做嗎 |
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這個人民台也有協助啦但是這個會這樣子就是說有民事來什麼這也是透過個標案來處理的啦我已經講過了你每次透過標案標到最後都已經沒有人來標啦因為知道你們根本就其他來的人通通是陪標啊連續六年欸連續六年只有一家民事很正常嗎 |
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台灣的電視台這麼多電子媒體這麼多連續六年主委可以跟我解釋一下為什麼後來三立有一年來飆後來連三立都不來了 |
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他大概知道我們原民會就是分配給民事所以我要講就是說我們在這次預算裡面即便在去年我們對於沒宣費我們做了比較嚴格的把關可是到今年你做這個勞務採購仍然是這樣啊各位報告我要講說這樣的案子也是透過一般的採購的程序來的 |
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你這個案子每個金額都很大欸你看一看每一年我要講的是他每年你能不透過你能不透過這個公開的採購嗎你每一年的預算大概都兩千萬上下欸一百一四年還高達三千兩百七十八萬欸那如果我這邊再幫你去算出來你們民事在你們總體的沒宣費的沒宣費的預算 |
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總體的沒選費預算那個比例是很高的啊是不是也就是說你不但是過度集中民視在你整個沒選費裡面都過度集中在電子媒體採購 |
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所以我在這邊我們在這次的預算審查裡面我還是會做嚴格把關這個我們已經講了非常多年但是我想你們可能覺得因為每次我們在講說對於一些原住民這個原住民族不管是做他的文化的宣傳或者他們的權益的宣傳我們都會支持但是如果看到過度集中在某一特定媒體的時候 |
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那這個大概就有問題了嘛另外請教主委報告委員可以讓我們再花30秒鐘給您做個說明今年正是因為委員有特別關切是不是過度集中於特定媒體所以我們今年雖然是招標給了民視但是民視這邊做的是一個統籌協調的一個機制 |
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也就是說他拿到我們的資源跟經費之後他仍然要去找尋其他的媒體來做合作包含民視、TVBS、非凡東西好所以喔都是他會去所以你過去你只有今年這樣做我所了解喔過去我在抓警政署也是這樣子一個詐騙比如說我們覺得反詐騙宣傳重不重要重要預算給不給給一包三千多萬一包三千多萬 |
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包給民視然後民視做二房東再由民視去發包給包含平面媒體包含網路包含其他電子媒體包含這個網紅 |
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你們的模式就是這樣模式嗎對不對是 跟委員報告正是因為媒體的規劃是一種專業所以我們是以採購法的程序找到了適合的廠商並且所以只有民視可以這樣做嗎這是依照採購法的程序得到的結果而且最後得標廠商 |
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也是要在各媒體當中都要有所露出讓我們的資訊最大化的投注在民眾的面前所以就像過去曾經TAB EBS也有得標過所以我們並不一定是全部集中在特定的那你這六年你這六年怎麼我還沒有外交往上找勒你這六年為什麼都集中在一家民事嘛 |
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你在這邊講說什麼公開採購啦或者是這是一個package再由他去分包給其他的媒體在很多的案子我們都看到但是這些案子都特別特別的大所以我剛剛講嘛 |
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到兩千萬上下你們到今年都已經執行超過一千萬了到現在為止都已經執行超過一千萬都趕快把它發包出去所以媒體採購的部分過度集中在特定的媒體 原民會的問題其實是很大的另外 主委請問一下我們現在原住民博物館的預算的執行現在的進度是怎樣 |
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我跟委員 委員報告齁因為原住民 原住民的這個博物館現在 我剛剛講就是說今年六月 就是下個月我們的驗警館就會 就會動工了 驗警館你先要有一個驗 驗警館一定發包出去對 發包出去 對六月就要動工了那我們也密切的齁因為我們不希望說一直再拖特別要 要逼他 催他就是希望在明年的這個月底就讓他完工 |
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明年底請問一下我看到你們資料是行政院核定到120年總經費是58億5900萬那目前會有追加嗎目前沒有 |
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目前是沒有追加 目前沒有所以現在目前的還是按照行政院核定的 是不是因為其實我後來看到你們很多各單位的這個就是尤其什麼新建大樓其實我看追加的還蠻多的所以我們目前是沒有追加 沒有 沒有好 謝謝 |