| IVOD_ID |
169453 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169453 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-20T09:14:17+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-20T09:22:33+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:16 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e8e93c7ebde79bae4f023e50fd5378cc3847d5ba5f4714201cbc05507f2af6346175e7c94f56e9555ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許忠信 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:14:17 - 09:22:33 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：邀請原住民族委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人原住民族文化事業基金會董事長與財團法人原住民族語言研究發展基金會董事長列席報告業務概況(含上會期臨時提案辦理情形) ，並備質詢。） |
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主席 各位同仁 我們有請曾主委主委好剛才您的報告有提到希拉雅民主的身份認同那麼現在也預計在六月行政院可以核定本席非常的高興我在成大驕諸作全法 |
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這個抽象的著作權法要如何發展成為文創產業這牽涉到台灣經濟的發展非常重要而我們原住民的文化是我們非常仰賴的一個文化所以我一直對這個有興趣那有幾個問題想要來請教您我們這九族來申請身份認定的嘉南平原只有西拉雅族還有大武龍族 |
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但是你可以看到紅亞族以及東山的朵洛國並沒有來申請這個朵洛國族根據荷蘭人來的文獻他只剩下300多人但是他的居住地卻從這個貨幣到嘉義中間的巴掌溪來到曾文溪這麼大的居地只有300多個原住民 |
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那上面住什麼人啊這個台灣石故意裝糊塗我們不能裝糊塗所以我們希望主委啊能夠去做一個研究知道我們現在平地的台灣人如何虧欠我們原住民那這樣原住民要請我們國家來 |
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補助還有各方面的協助發展回復文化語言那才有力道根據我初前的看法朵洛國族是1574年被林鳳所率的萬人東渡的漢人所驅離到嘉義到山區這是我初前的看法那第二個 |
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我對這個希拉雅族他的語言各方面非常有興趣他的歷史其實希拉雅族他的文化水平比當時荷蘭時代的漢人的文化水平高很多他們是受到荷蘭人教育會講德語的那麼文化各位從我新式的新港文書去看新港文書裡面那些代書都是希拉雅族 |
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而不是漢人也就是說他們買賣土地做代書的是原住民所以他的文化水平比較高所以我們現在的語言當中Ga土地的單位那個Ga那是荷蘭語就荷蘭語跟現在的德語一樣Ga就是I Morgan Aker也就是一個人開一條牛離一個早上 |
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的土地那我們的先人把它稱為因為太長第二個我們在南部要去租田園我們台語用什麼用對不對您在講德語我發一個德語讓你聽就是 |
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就是現在德文現在的豬啊所以你看到我們的希拉雅族在荷蘭人的時代都講荷蘭語德語到現在還有痕跡像這個都要恢復你恢復以後我們的文創各方面就可以做得好但是希拉雅族因為他的文化水平各方面比較高 |
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願意跟漢人通婚的就通婚,不願意他離開所以在清代,蕭榮社,麻豆社還有木家六灣社,還有新港社有些就離開他現在的居地那我的花園如果有用到番字,各位要體諒我像麻豆社,搬到現在官田、榮田那邊叫華那產 |
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那邊他有姓陳的他其實是原住民那我們現在這些新市我新港社的後人他們到左鎮後來到從左鎮到現在新化的新河社區他們還是信基督教新河教會 |
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所以我們如何來協助他們讓他們保持他們文化語言可以發展他們的社區這個非常的重要我們原委會對我們這個做法在2000在今年6月以後有沒有具體的規劃 西拉雅族行政院如果合定以後那就是合定之後我們就趕快來就是說他們的身份先做趕快先做登記啦 |
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還有後面我們還有很多一些界委繼續要來協助他們尤其是族羽的護鎮也就是說我們要具體實惠不是只有一個法律定下去而已所以本席希望我們永遠會能夠特別注意新化的那個新河教會那個社區他們現在保持的很好那邊的人民就是我們原住民的個性就是很虔誠很老實 |
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就是他們的個性所以我們必須要積極去協助他這是我們平地人對他們的虧欠第三個問題我們大五龍現在也來申請大五龍社他本來在曾文溪兩岸關田的霞現在在玉井的小里那麼善化的家拔在南溪的家拔 |
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然後大內的大武隆,在獄警的市區大武隆那我們獄警還有一個盲阿盲、盲冰冰這兩個盲阿盲、盲冰冰,他的平地、居地在哪裡?主委您知道嗎?他們後來又被西拉雅族推擠現在到小林村嘛,大武隆 |
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那我們蒙阿蒙跟蒙冰冰它的居地我根據我們新市張家大社的張家開台組它的墳墓在康熙年間就埋在蒙阿蒙可以證明它來自新市的大社大蒙就是新市的大社所以我們如果把這些都恢復 |
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對他們的歷史文化非常有幫忙以外對台灣的經濟產值發展文化產位是非常的沒有這個非常沒辦法被替代的懷寶 |
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是不是我們組委可以承諾對台南地區的西雅族還有大武龍族這方面能夠積極的來法律通過以後來這裡實會會 我跟委員報告我們會現在就我們已經跟他們互動非常的平緩了他們任何的一個祭儀的活動還有文化活動我們都有跟他們在都有任何人在做這樣非常好謝謝感謝謝謝 |