| IVOD_ID |
169452 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169452 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-35-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-20T10:39:38+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-20T10:46:49+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:11 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e8e93c7ebde79baec49a08c7f008f57b1a7252260727bd661cbc05507f2af6346175e7c94f56e9555ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:39:38 - 10:46:49 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第17次全體委員會議【含秘密會議】（事由：一、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於僑務委員會主管收支公開及機密部分。
二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算關於僑務委員會主管信託基金： （一）莊守耕公益基金。（二）受理捐贈僑生獎助學金及艱困地區僑民學校師資輔助金基金。（僅詢答）（5月18日、20日及21日三天一次會）） |
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當委員先進列席的政府監管署長官員會長公眾夥伴媒體記者女士先生有請我們徐委員長徐委員長 |
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今天我們來關心一下旅外僑胞聲援台灣的國際處境我們如何強化僑教中心服務僑胞的量能請問盧比歐跟魯比歐是不是同一個人是同一個人為什麼中共要把他改姓 |
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據說之前他被列為禁止進入中國的不受歡迎人士是的 委員長很了解中共他說參議員盧比歐的時候反中共所以制裁他但是他當了國務卿是盧比歐要歡迎他那請問一下戰爭部跟退伍軍人事務部你覺得中共比較會不能接受哪一個去訪問 |
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戰爭部戰爭部就把他當成假想敵嘛對那退伍軍人事務部可能這些美國的退伍軍人還會去中國旅遊啊對好那請問一下在我們中華民國政府體制外交部跟僑委會在中共眼中哪一個要特別打壓 |
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他們當然是所打壓外交部那為什麼因為是官方的機制難道你不是官方的機制嗎這個就是奧妙之所對就是中共的認知外交部是代表國家主權的不能夠讓中華民國有一個代表國家主權的部長來我這裡訪問但是僑委會是照顧中華民國人民的是不是這樣是所以委員長你比較可以在國際上 |
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比較可以閃過中共的打壓我比較有彈性比較有彈性可以去關心我們的僑民也可以去拓展我們的外交嘛是的那我們的外交不是只有靠外交部啊是不是包括僑胞對我們看一看就在5月19號就在昨天聲援台灣加入WHA是不是 |
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去的人是誰都是僑胞都是僑胞嘛都是你的服務對象嘛對就在去年勝選台灣加入國際民航組織的去的是誰也是僑胞也是僑胞嘛也都是你服務的對象嘛對所以僑胞對我們台灣的國際處境外交很重要嘛所以 |
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中共要打壓他有困難中共要攔阻你去訪問這些國家也很困難但是這些僑胞的情感他們的生活我們要去服務對不對其實他們的情感聯繫跟文化傳承他們是靠誰我看一下成年的僑胞他們需要的是情感的聯繫在當地的國家文化不太一樣要找自己有文化背景一樣的他們的後代希望能夠傳承 |
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所以情感的聯繫更快的傳承我知道我們僑委會有僑民處 僑教處 僑商處 僑生處哪一個要負責這個工作 |
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這些大部分都是在我們駐外的同仁有的是合宿辦公有的是在喬教中心那我們在全球有16個喬教中心所以喬教中心就是扮演這個其他部位不能取代的經濟部或許可以協助喬商那麼其實呢很多的單位啊移民署可以協助喬民 |
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但是最重要最重要的就是這個喬教中心是喬委會其他部會大概所沒有的功能是不是這樣好那我們有多少喬教中心你剛剛說了有16個對不對對好那這些喬教中心我知道我去過好幾次啊有的好像是自己的獨棟的building對有的好像在大樓裡面的一個房間對那目前的情況怎麼樣 |
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跟委員說明我們現在在北美洲有12個那12個呢加拿大一個是自購美國的11個其中呢有三處是租賃好因為我們在談預算啦對對對我比較關心的是你有自購的有租賃的對 |
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欸我知道在國外有些地方租金很貴欸真的很貴是我知道其實我常有去新加坡啦我們的那個同大子說啊他那個還是租的房東常常跟他提漲房租每一年都提漲每一年都提漲對那你們怎麼又想要租的比較貴啊為什麼沒有想要買下來呢 |
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這也就是過往本會曾經有過採購的狀況但是後來都因為個別不同因素就有刪除後來就沒有成功但近年來我們是一直發現說我們的業務費用事實上在付這些房租就越付越多所以我們的業務預算又沒有什麼成長 |
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所以相對的變成要執行業務的預算就越來越少那長期這樣下去我認為不是辦法所以應當要由資本門來支出才是正辦你們每年的資本門有占多少比例很少很少 總署知道嗎行政院知道嗎 |
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近年來已經知道因為我也去報告了是好我希望您很負責我們在審預算我們都知道其實中央政府都其實都會在強調資本們的投資他們比較會優先考慮經常因為是經常維持費用那如果是像僑委會可以對 |
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驻留在海外的侨胞长期的做业务经营你们资本门的投资是有必要的你们可不可以做一个投资效益的分析让本席也让足迹总署知道如果你们有限的预算当中拨多少在资本门它创造的效益可以让你们经常们 |
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不會受到太大的影響而且經常們的支出可以用在必要的活動上跟委員說明 事實上在20年前應該說20多年前外交部就已經有這樣的一個長期計劃也就是說他們在海外的外交部有一個壯團人計劃那你們沒有 |
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我們一直都沒有所以我近年來就是希望說我們也來做一個所以今年我確實是打算在116年度提明年度的計劃案希望說這個可以得到行政院長的認可然後主計總署的贊同以及大院的支持如果在這樣的一個條件之下我們就可以在明年逐步落實還有六個管處我們是租賃的狀況之下可以把它逐漸的解除 |
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我們政府不是投報率啦我們看的是投資的效益啦請您把這個資本門跟經常門分別的效益評估做出來好不好近年來其實只要是在海外用採購案的這個地方呢我們不但是這些房地產都 |
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有增值啦增值除外呢還有一個好處是大部分的海外一般投資者他還要付很多稅金但由於我們是外交單位所以我們是不用付稅金的投資還免稅對所以這對我們國家來說絕對是一個好處在現在歐美這個房價也很高漲然後物價又年年波動然後房租每年跟我這樣10%的狀況之下我們真的是有苦說不出啦好這個 |
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這個做金之門的一個配比的一個適當的投資效益的分析請也給本席一個報告 好不好好的那我們希望你們您年度的預算趕快提出來好的向行政院 謝謝好 謝謝委員 |