| IVOD_ID |
169365 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169365 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第9次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第9次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-12T09:17:16+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-12T09:33:13+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:57 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0cec772f6559b9e4ec5531dba9a04fd4c095463f94dab4fdd817488d83a1324cf20f527d60d7d4815ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許智傑 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:17:16 - 09:33:13 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第9次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「醫療法第十二條、第一百零二條及第一百零二條之一條文修正草案」，請審議案；本院委員蘇清泉等28人擬具「醫療法第十二條條文修正草案」，請審議案；本院委員羅廷瑋等17人擬具「醫療法第十二條及第一百零二條條文修正草案」，請審議案等2案。二、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。三、5月8日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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謝謝主席 各位院長 各位部長 大家好院長先休息一下 我們先請教育部長院長您就聽著 等一下再問院長意見請教育部長備選委員好部長好 |
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我想部長也是非常有理想的部長所以到教育部來我們也希望說台灣到底要怎麼去推動我們的教育我現在用一個比較簡單的概念叫做科技經濟美麗花絮科技經濟就是包括整個台灣的進步以經濟來講其實台灣現在也不錯但是其實貧富差距還是蠻懸殊的 |
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然後呢 生活沒有那麼美麗然後呢 要怎麼讓人開心我想說一個簡單的故事有一個小孩子他很喜歡跑步 很喜歡賽跑他就是 成功就是贏那這個小孩子呢 他就找兩個對手然後就比賽了之後 欸 他贏了 他就很高興一堆觀眾在旁邊看也看得非常的高興然後呢 他又找另外一組比然後又比了啦 欸 他又贏了 |
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觀眾都給他歡呼他也覺得很pride很驕傲但是第三組另外有一個老人他就來了他說來我給你一組新的對手一個就是盲人一個是老婦人他就告訴他說來你們再比一次他說這怎麼比啊結果老人就告訴他你就比啊比了之後這個小孩子也贏了 |
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跑到終點了結果發現那兩個人都沒動然後呢觀眾本來歡呼的沒有人歡呼那後來那個小孩子問老人說為什麼那個老人就告訴他你再比一次這一次我希望你們三個人一起到達終點結果這個小孩子呢想一想他就站在這兩個人的中間一手拉著一個人三個人慢慢慢慢走走走到了終點 |
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結果歡聲雷動他就問老人說請教一下他們到底是在為誰抬手為誰喝彩這個老人告訴他說其實這一場比賽你學到的比以前的比賽都還要多以前你就是贏了你就很爽了那這一場比賽你是幫助兩個弱者一起到達終點 |
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所以他那句話他就說It's not important if you win是不是贏不是最重要的It's important how you run this race最重要的是你如何去跑這場比賽This race is called life這場比賽叫做人生我想這一步最重要的就是說我除了國家要進步我想讓人民活得更快樂更幸福 |
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這才是人生所以我今天質詢的比較簡單的我有兩個重點第一個是AI教育AI教育我簡單帶過就是說我們看芬蘭的教育它是目前全球性物指數最高的國家那它的AI教育從幼稚園做起融入他的生活然後日本跟韓國它這裡的特色它是補助企業 |
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跟學校合作推動AI培訓我想部長很清楚我們好不容易推動一個國家產學大使獎企業對學校的產學合作有具體的貢獻我們要給這樣子的學校跟教授頒獎所以這個部分就是我們希望學校跟企業可以充分的合作第三個主題就是品德教育 |
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品質教育要如何跟前面的芬蘭的幼稚園教育一樣融入生活其實融入生活才是最重要的我想這個部分值得我們去深思那芬蘭的教育我簡單跟大家報告一下就是院長跟部長報告一下就是說芬蘭其實它的特色就是我說的從幼稚園開始而且他們在第二個2017這個項目其實他們還有那個包括四讀 |
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我從小就讓你看到真假圖片是什麼你又會分辨從小就讓他們去分辨再來他們有個比較特別的就是他們有分組分組教學在目前台灣的教育制度其實有但是不多大部分還是停留在課堂教學這個分組事實上它有合作跟互動我想這個部分除了學習基本的AI智能之外事實上人跟人的互動融入生活其實這是一個很重要的項目 |
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還有他們2024就有課綱這個我們以後再慢慢跟部長報告南韓呢他這個投資呢他在17處設立AI教育資源中心這個我上次也跟部長提過就是AI人才教育基地培訓基地這個是不是有一個整體的單位在做這樣子的思考那目前台灣有的包括 |
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智慧教育園區台中教育大學包括陽明教大6G AI示範基地包括智慧製造等等我們高雄目前也清白市長也跟陽明教大跟清大我們也合作一個校際研教園區這個部分也是這樣子的一個概念我是覺得就是說我們教育部是不是應該去統合因為坦白講AI大家都知道 |
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但是大家知道到什麼程度做到什麼程度那台灣跟世界比較到我們差不多到什麼樣的水準目前在AI的硬體裡面台灣應該是G站前應該是第一名當之無愧但是在AI的軟體AI的應用裡面我們大概排目前的次序我查一下資料大概是有21名所以台灣其實在應用軟體這邊還有很大的空間 |
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那今天還有那個其實有很多我想AI的教育我這簡單的跟部長報告跟院長報告就是說台灣的AI教育就是說在教育部應該有一個主導的地位而去了解全國到底AI的人才培育到什麼程度 |
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這個部分希望說部長再繼續幫忙謝謝委員我大概簡單補充跟委員所關心的有關AI這個部分我們事實上是有一個新的規劃一系列的AI方舟人才的培育大計畫 |
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那另外包含我們根據OECD這個世界經濟論壇還有許多產業還有這個聯合國教科文組織我們大概也 |
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也做了一些由下而上到產業由上而下的這樣一個反覆的一個panel discussion我們的教育部的團隊所以我們也規劃出了一個AI的未來人才AI圖像我們到底希望在AI世代裡邊AI時代裡邊我們希望的教育我們的人才未來人才到底要長成什麼樣他們需要具備有什麼樣的能力應用AI的能力能夠 |
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有這個善用有價值的這個使用的AI也就是說他要能夠這一個譬如說能夠除錯能夠辨別許多的資訊的一些真偽還有他能夠有效的使用AI去解決問題以及還有屬於科技沒有包括的一些創造力同理心等等的這些的能力我們現在的圖像 |
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從小學 國中 高中到大學我們的能力指標 教學目標 未來需要的我們都已經非常有系統 完整的把它做了一個規劃簡單的跟部長報告 跟部長這樣子的述說我想最後一個就是說 |
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這跟我一開始在講的故事這小孩子在賽跑是 剛才我其實非常感動委員所特別提到的教育的本質其實在那一個我們怎麼樣過一個美好的生活而不是競爭 |
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下了一個教育人格的一個發展我們怎麼樣有一個更高的同理心悲憫的心然後幸福的感覺能夠知足常樂也能夠關心弱勢我覺得剛才委員所提的令人感動你一直講我沒有時間部長我要講的是前面的科技經濟其實就是在跑步AI的科技我們其實硬體在全世界占首屈一指 |
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軟體的部分應用的部分我希望就跟跑步一樣我們最後看成績嘛希望說我們現在大概是21名那怎麼樣跑到18名15名10名內這個部分我希望說我們也設定一個目標就陳委員所講的我們不僅要專業的知識我們同時要能夠關懷他們那經濟其實台灣現在股票是萬點現在台灣GDP很高 |
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其實大家都歡喜在台灣其實真的很進步但是我要提醒部長跟提醒院長就是說在這個貧富差距的懸殊裡面AI如何去協助傳統科技百工百業融入生活那就是說要怎麼樣去照顧弱勢一般我們接觸經濟是很簡單的發電經濟照顧弱勢弱勢一般是社會團體的弱勢那我想一般的弱勢包括產業的弱勢 |
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這些可能需要部長 需要院長跟其他各部會其實傳統產業目前其實是很辛苦的包括傳統產業的收入那這個部分我們要怎麼樣去把那個傳統產業融入AI再把它提升上來這個部分那最後品德教育我事實上還希望說我認為最重要的是融入生活就是我們在國小 國中 高中 大學我們品德教育有沒有一個融入生活的機制 |
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或者是去了解 或者是給他什麼樣的協助我記得 剛才我們說的AI人才培育基地有沒有品德教育推動小組或者是品德教育推動委員會我教育部整體在看看我全國這一部分的推動效果到底是要到什麼程度就跟這個小朋友拉著一個蝦子 拉著一個老婦人一起走到終點 |
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那種感覺那這個部分我們在學校裡面有沒有具體的蘿蔔去加分去推動去幫助我們社會的各個階層包括學校裡面有在做這件事 |
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謝謝委員提醒 事實上在生命教育裡邊我想我們國民教育的這個目標開宗明義就是要培養德智體型美 五育均衡發展所以它當然不是只是一個知識上的一個傳輸那當然生活教育 生命教育在中小學裡邊都有一定的一個各個學校事實上也能進民間的起步我們108課綱其實課綱寫平台都寫得蠻不錯的是 |
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但是他重點不是在講大學重點是在做AI怎麼樣把生命教育這一塊能夠容替再來就是校師會議校師會議為什麼現在這麼多的教師會缺為什麼大家不敢不想現在有人哪幾個老師敢教得很嚴的部長你簡單回答一下 |
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跟委員報告也感謝委員關心怎麼樣讓老師能夠更安心專業的去教導指導我們的下一代我講一下校士會的問題校士會也跟委員報告因為過去原來校士會的起因它有一個背景是因為老師做了不當的使得學生的生命受到威脅 |
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那這樣喪失生命所以才有對不適任教師的一個解聘不續聘有校事會議那是因為當時班花了以後所有學校的大小事全部都到校事會議來博定你也知道對不對現在其實你問所有的老師90%以上的老師是好的我們贊成對不對90%以上的校長是好的我們也贊成對不對 |
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但是呢現在少數的老師不好我們該是校會該處理要處理少數的校長不好 |
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我今天老師很擔心所以我們今天校師會議已經做了更改已經做了更改做了一個分流等於說真正這個小組裡面第一個要判斷的是他是不是已經他的行為錯誤到要解聘的階段如果他只是來自於班級經營上的一些可能需要提醒他就能夠改善這時候就不進入到校務會議部長來我給具體改善 |
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有發生這種小黑字不要被擴大成大刀疤美女臉上一顆小黑字跟美女臉上的大刀疤是不一樣的 |
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但是你如果小黑字就會被擴大成大刀疤的話這個就是很危險的這就是我們先前改變那個校士會議的一個基層但是現在校士會議大家擔心啊老師擔心啊校長也不願意啊跟我們報告我們的新版其實基層老師還蠻高興我們做了這樣一個調整這個我在基層跑很多我教育界出身的我基層跑很多我說第一個我具體建立時間不多第一個就是說在校內先有個協調小組 |
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我講的就是好端老實懂不懂都不錯有一些紛爭如果是小刀八大刀八當然該處理要處理如果是小黑字在校內協調就協調這個是第一個步驟第二個步驟校內如果協調不太順暢的時候教育局有一個 |
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委員會或類似委員會的性質的結果我今天有隆重我有一百件一千件我就說這件是小黑字這件是大大包可以分辨不要用小黑字無限上綱也不要讓大大包逃過最後一個就是才進入我們的消失會議就有這三個程序對消失會會有個具體的改善的方式 |
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好,謝謝徐委員好,謝謝徐委員 |