| IVOD_ID |
169050 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169050 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-30T10:29:59+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-30T10:37:45+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:46 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b51b6e95b687bd8e8f8fb2183fb68d9a4094fdde23d63da599070a33b65dc58bbb28968e9245ab7d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳亭妃 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:29:59 - 10:37:45 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-30T10:10:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：一、 審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院歲入預算第5款第1項第2目暨國家發展委員會及所屬單位預算部分。
二、 審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於行政院主管：行政院國家發展基金、離島建設基金、花東地區永續發展基金及促進轉型正義基金。(詢答)
【4月29日及4月30日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝召委我們請主委國發會葉主委主委好主委我還是要跟您討論一下你記不記得我在這個質詢台當中有跟您就教就是我們台南捷運的一個進度也就是我們國發會掌握多少 |
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那主委有去了解了嗎?那個相關的那個同仁有去有對於這個部分有做一些研究啦那譬如說像委員很重視的像台南捷運藍線的一些綜合規劃這個部分的話行政院已經核定藍線?對 |
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藍線現在剩最後一里路對 已經剩最後一里路現在是要是否趕得及今年年底發包好 現在是藍線的延伸 |
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還有深綠線還有紅線延伸線接高鐵深綠線接南科4到南科123我們的紅線是接高雄希望未來可以接我們高雄的機場捷運目前從當時候我直循環到現在的進度大概也有一個月了 |
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那請問呢這個部分跟委員報告齁台南捷運藍線延伸的可行研究的話這個部分交通部還在努力當中那至於那個台南捷運紅線深綠線的可行性研究以及台南捷運綠線黃線的可行性研究還沒有到 |
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三條 三條從延伸線 深綠線 紅線你們早就評估過了 結果呢全部到行政院那邊 給的資訊就是說 運量不足所以我上次跟你講的 說你們要去了解 |
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你們要非常清楚了解結果現在都停擺狀態然後市政府也被你們嚇到了每次來來去去你們都說運量不足都要求說他們先做綠線所以他們就趕了一條綠線通過議會再 |
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這個今年的這個三月通過議會為什麼因為他們說每次上來都鬼打牆給的資訊都說我們要先發展綠線我都一直強調捷運怎麼可能從舊城區開始 |
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你沒有看到未來性光施工你就會被踩煞車了光溝通就有問題了你沒有像他們先看到未來性不可能從舊城區可以先施工所以我們一個月以來全部都停擺中央也停擺 地方也停擺 |
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我昨天有再次拜託這個部分一定要趕快把車子開動啊你如果停在那裡永遠都動不了所以 主委是不是可以讓我們台南看到一點曙光這三條藍線的延伸深綠線還有紅線 |
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起碼讓台南市政府有點信心了現在還丟在台南市政府 他們也不知道怎麼改每一次如果中央給他們資訊都是說 運量不足他要怎麼改運量的部分是要整個串聯起來才有運量啊沒有串聯怎麼運量 你光用這一點給他們穿小鞋他們就沒有辦法再提後續了 |
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所以 拜託一下 主委因為現在行政院都是你們之前給的資訊就是說 運量不足還是我請我同仁回答委員這個問題可能會比較精彩跟委員報告 其實大概捷運南線延伸大家 包括財主單位比較考量大概就是它運轉之後 |
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然後財務上會出現問題為什麼財務會出現問題 就是運量嘛他會認為運量不足嘛運量只是其中一部分那我們會比較希望說台南市比到高雄市因為沿線委員剛剛有提到沿線比較有空曠的地方有一些開發行為就可以補 |
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他們已經有調整了已經有調整了所以你要把這樣的訊息很清楚給台南市政府而且要給規劃單位顧問公司也就是我們需要的是我們沿線廠區的共同開發 |
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這是第一點然後再加運量你沒有這樣的部分根本沒有辦法讓市政府可以再送出修正版本現在三條線藍線的延伸深綠線還有紅線全部都卡關現在卡在哪裡 市政府 |
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跟委員報告 我會主動聯繫台南市這邊 把這些再跟他們溝通因為運量其實不是唯一的 主要是說希望有其他的部分他廠區開發 共同開發 他們有在補送一版版本 |
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那空曠的地方在哪裡哪邊可以做共同開發這個部分你要很明確跟他講我的重點在聯合開發在附近有哪些共同的空地可以做聯合開發的你們要提出來這就非常精確啊否則每次都鬼塔牆 |
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好這個部分再擺脫從我們的延伸線深綠線跟紅線這個部分然後再來一個就是我們西北唐鐵狼帶的振興前導計畫這些都已經送到我們國發會了那這些預算的部分再拜託你們開了幾次會了這部分開了幾次 |
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來 沒關係 跟委員報告因為西北 因為分兩個部分一個是塘鐵本身 這個是交通部已經協助規劃了對 已經我們的鐵道基金協助規劃了所以我講的這是前導計畫那前導計畫的部分 現在有五個事業提案那上一次委員有開會決議說委員會在台北再招會 討論你們已經 他們已經收集了 你們有初步瞭解 |
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對 我們大概有跟部會對接有對接了好 那我們現在已經可以開會囉我們可以再邀集一次會議囉我們會建議委員開會 我們能不能盡量把它收斂好的 謝謝感謝 |
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謝謝召委，我們請主委。 |
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國發會葉主委。 |
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委員早。 |
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主委好。 |
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主委，我還是要跟您討論一下，你記不記得我在這個質詢臺有跟您就教對我們臺南捷運的進度國發會掌握多少，主委有去了解了嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
0.981 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-04-30T10:30:44.087000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-04-30T10:30:57.737000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].text |
相關同仁對這個部分有做一些研究，比如委員很重視的臺南捷運藍線綜合規劃這個部分，行政院已經核定。藍線？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
0.979 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-04-30T10:31:00.379000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-04-30T10:31:02.161000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].text |
藍線現在剩最後一哩路？ |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-04-30T10:31:02.882000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-04-30T10:31:04.464000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].text |
對，已經核定了。 |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-04-30T10:31:04.464000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-04-30T10:31:05.325000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].text |
剩最後一哩路。對。 |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-04-30T10:31:07.227000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-04-30T10:31:09.710000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].text |
是否趕得及今年年底發包？ |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-04-30T10:31:11.231000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-04-30T10:31:13.454000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
現在是藍線的延伸。對。 |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-04-30T10:31:14.915000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-04-30T10:31:18.218000+08:00 |
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還有深綠線、還有紅線。對。 |
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0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-04-30T10:31:18.218000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-04-30T10:31:32.311000+08:00 |
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延伸線接高鐵，深綠線接南科四，到南科一、二、三，我們的紅線是接高雄，希望未來可以接高雄的機場捷運。對。 |
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0.884 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-04-30T10:31:34.233000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-04-30T10:31:41.938000+08:00 |
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從當時我質詢完到現在的進度，大概也有一個月了，請問呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-04-30T10:31:42.458000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-04-30T10:31:58.123000+08:00 |
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這個部分跟委員報告，臺南捷運藍線延伸可行性研究這個部分交通部還在努力當中，至於臺南捷運紅線、深綠線的可行性研究，以及臺南捷運綠線、黃線的可行性研究還沒有到國發會。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-04-30T10:32:02.055000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-04-30T10:32:18.923000+08:00 |
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三條，從延伸線、深綠線、紅線，你們早就評估過了，結果全部到行政院那邊，給的資訊就是運量不足，所以我上次跟你講的，你們要去了解。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.982 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-04-30T10:32:20.618000+08:00 |
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2026-04-30T10:32:44.516000+08:00 |
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你們要非常清楚了解，結果現在都是停擺狀態，市政府也被你們嚇到了，每次來來去去，你們都說運量不足，都要求他們先做綠線，所以他們就趕了一條綠線，在今年3月通過議會，為什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.973 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-04-30T10:32:44.516000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-04-30T10:32:48.937000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
因為他們說每次上來都鬼打牆，給的資訊都說要先發展綠線。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-04-30T10:32:48.937000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-04-30T10:32:49.997000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
我都一直強調，捷運怎麼可能從舊城區開始？ |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-04-30T10:32:57.519000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-04-30T10:33:13.786000+08:00 |
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你沒有看到未來性，光是施工就會被踩煞車了，光溝通就有問題了，你沒有讓他們先看到未來性，不可能從舊城區先施工。 |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.959 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-04-30T10:33:15.247000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-04-30T10:33:33.700000+08:00 |
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所以一個月以來全部都停擺，中央也停擺、地方也停擺，我昨天有再一次拜託，這個部分一定要趕快把車子開動啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.978 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-04-30T10:33:34.921000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-04-30T10:33:37.742000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
如果停在那裡，永遠都動不了！ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-04-30T10:33:39.163000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-04-30T10:33:44.946000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
所以，主委，是不是可以讓我們臺南看到一點曙光？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-30T10:33:45.806000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-04-30T10:33:56.612000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
這三條──藍線的延伸、深綠線，還有紅線，起碼讓臺南市政府有一點信心。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-04-30T10:33:57.853000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-04-30T10:34:08.097000+08:00 |
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現在還卡在臺南市政府，他們說也不知道要怎麼改，每一次中央給他們的資訊都是運量不足，他要怎麼改？ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.907 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-04-30T10:34:09.818000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-04-30T10:34:15+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
運量的部分是要整個串聯起來才有運量，沒有串聯怎麼有運量？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-30T10:34:15.880000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-04-30T10:34:19.162000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
光用這一點給他們穿小鞋，他們就沒有辦法再提後續了。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-04-30T10:34:23.781000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-04-30T10:34:32.646000+08:00 |
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所以，拜託一下，主委，因為現在行政院都是你們之前給的資訊，就是說運量不足。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-30T10:34:35.808000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-04-30T10:34:39.910000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
還是我請我的同仁回答委員這個問題，可能會比較精準一點。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.808 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
黃處長文彥 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-30T10:34:42.991000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-04-30T10:34:56.456000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，捷運藍線延伸，包括財主單位，大家比較考量的大概就是怕運轉之後財務上會出現問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.878 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-30T10:34:56.456000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-04-30T10:34:57.777000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
為什麼財務會出現問題？ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-30T10:34:57.777000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-04-30T10:34:58.597000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
就是運量嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-30T10:34:59.178000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-04-30T10:35:01.039000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
他們會認為運量不足嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
黃處長文彥 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-30T10:35:01.899000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-30T10:35:09.703000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，運量只是其中一部分，我們會比較希望臺南市比照高雄市，因為沿線，委員剛剛有提到…… |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.85 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-30T10:35:09.703000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-30T10:35:10.703000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
廠區開發？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
黃處長文彥 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-30T10:35:10.163000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-30T10:35:12.424000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
沿線比較有空曠的地方有一些開發行為，就可以…… |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-30T10:35:12.424000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-30T10:35:14.585500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
廠區開發，有，他們有在調整了。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
黃處長文彥 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-30T10:35:14.585500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-30T10:35:16.747000+08:00 |
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對，就可以補足這些財務，這樣子就可以了。 |
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0.059 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-30T10:35:16.747000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-30T10:35:18.068000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
他們已經有調整了。 |
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0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
黃處長文彥 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-30T10:35:18.068000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-04-30T10:35:19.610000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
這樣子就可以了。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.143 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-30T10:35:19.610000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-04-30T10:35:36.826000+08:00 |
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已經有調整了，所以你要把這樣的訊息很清楚給臺南市政府，而且要給規劃單位、顧問公司，也就是我們需要的是沿線廠區的共同開發，這是第一點，然後再加運量。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-30T10:35:37.846000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-04-30T10:35:53.751000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
如果沒有這樣，根本沒有辦法讓市政府可以再送出修正版本，現在三條線，藍線的延伸、深綠線，還有紅線，全部都卡關，現在卡在哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-30T10:35:53.751000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-04-30T10:35:54.231000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
市政府！ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
黃處長文彥 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-30T10:35:54.771000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-04-30T10:36:05.802000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
跟委員報告，我會主動聯繫臺南市，把這些再跟他們溝通，因為運量其實不是唯一的，主要是希望有其他部分來補財務，這樣就可以了。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.815 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-30T10:36:07.684000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-30T10:36:10.186000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
廠區開發、共同開發，他們有再補送一版版本。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-30T10:36:11.788000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-04-30T10:36:13.790000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
空曠的地方在哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-30T10:36:13.790000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-04-30T10:36:16.813000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
哪邊可以做共同開發？ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-30T10:36:16.813000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-04-30T10:36:27.203000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
這個部分你要很明確跟他們講，重點在聯合開發，在附近有哪些共同的空地可以聯合開發的，你們要提出來，這就非常精確啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.98 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-30T10:36:27.443000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-04-30T10:36:40.563000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
否則每次都鬼打牆，這個部分再拜託，從我們的延伸線、深綠線跟紅線這個部分。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.906 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-04-30T10:36:41.483000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-04-30T10:36:57.011000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
再來一個就是溪北糖鐵廊帶的振興前導計畫都已經送到國發會了，預算的部分再拜託，你們開了幾次會？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.93 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
黃處長文彥 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-04-30T10:37:01.355000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-04-30T10:37:07.019000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
跟委員報告，因為分兩個部分，一個是糖鐵本身，這個是交通部已經協助規劃了。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.969 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-04-30T10:37:07.259000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-04-30T10:37:08+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
對，鐵道基金已經協助規劃了，所以我講的是前導計畫。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
黃處長文彥 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-04-30T10:37:08.020000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-04-30T10:37:09.601000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
前導計畫的部分現在有5個事業提案，上一次委員有開會決議，委員會在臺北再召集開會討論。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.921 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-04-30T10:37:09.641000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-04-30T10:37:10.161000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
對，他們已經蒐集了，你們有初步了解？ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
黃處長文彥 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-04-30T10:37:28.215000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-04-30T10:37:30.217000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
對，我們大概有跟部會對接。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-04-30T10:37:30.638000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-04-30T10:37:31.259000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
有對接了？ |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-04-30T10:37:31.780000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-04-30T10:37:34.984000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
好，那我們現在已經可以開會囉？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
黃處長文彥 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-04-30T10:37:34.984000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-04-30T10:37:35.304000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
我們會建議…… |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.4 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-04-30T10:37:35.304000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-04-30T10:37:36.987000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
我們可以再邀集一次會議了？ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
黃處長文彥 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-04-30T10:37:36.987000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-04-30T10:37:39.631000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
我們會建議委員開會，看能不能儘量把它收斂，然後就…… |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.773 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-04-30T10:37:39.631000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-04-30T10:37:40.432000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
好的，謝謝，感謝！ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-04-30T10:37:40.932000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-04-30T10:37:42.932000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
謝謝陳亭妃委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-04-30T10:37:43.232000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-04-30T10:37:44.946286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
主委先請回座。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-04-30T10:37:45.246286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-04-30T10:37:48.389143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
下一位質詢請洪毓祥委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0 |