| IVOD_ID |
169033 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169033 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-30T11:52:45+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-30T12:03:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:15 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b51b6e95b687bd8ec9049e2370f59cf64094fdde23d63da5b0908d82b746be59621313771590f4455ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
蔡易餘 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:52:45 - 12:03:00 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-30T10:10:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：一、 審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院歲入預算第5款第1項第2目暨國家發展委員會及所屬單位預算部分。
二、 審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於行政院主管：行政院國家發展基金、離島建設基金、花東地區永續發展基金及促進轉型正義基金。(詢答)
【4月29日及4月30日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝我們下一位質詢請蔡議員好謝謝趙偉那我們是不是邀請這個國發會主委請國發會葉主委主委委員好 |
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诶 主委齁主委 這個最近大家都在討論啦齁台灣的生意率已經是全世界 |
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最後一名那我們就看到對應著這個韓國南韓的出生率是有回升那他們對於出生率的一個回升事實上也是扎了很多的政策包括說他們延長全新的運營價包括他們也增設男性的運營價還從10天增設到了20天那 |
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他們還針對雙親如果共同請育嬰假的時候全新補助從三個月提升到六個月那育嬰假的總時間從一年可以提升到1.5年然後他們還有賦予企業的義務跟獎勵那其中一個比較重要的就是說企業如果對員工在兩歲以前發放這個補助金企業對員工發補助金的話全額免稅 |
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那支持企業來解決少子化的危機那當然這是韓國的政策那我們台灣一樣是有很多這個少子化政策那主要就是落在0到6歲國家一起養的政策那包括有育兒津貼包括有托育津貼包括有就學的繳費的一個上限然後基本上這樣的津貼制度就是減輕年輕人 |
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因為生育所造成的負擔但是看起來韓國的政策方向有效但是在台灣的政策方向看不到成績那這件事主委你的檢討是為什麼呢第一個跟委員報告就是說 |
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最近應該那個府院會有一個比較近一步的那一個關於零到六歲甚至零到十八歲國家一起養這個部分會有一系列的一些政策出來那整個的那一個新的部分的話會跟委員剛剛提到那個韓國的政策其實是蠻 |
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蠻接近的 譬如說像擴增男性育嬰假這個部分我們原本就有在做了而且男性我們現在是有的但是可能會再擴大實施這樣子那這個部分來講的話其實還有另外一個就是說可能就是說我們目前就是說申請那個譬如說臨時的那個照顧假的話那你的工作對企業來講就沒有人做 |
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那所以這個部分我們也在思考說怎麼樣讓企業減輕這樣一個負擔因為他畢竟還是要有人來做這件事情嘛所以他可能會有一些做法或者是措施來讓企業比較能夠安心的讓員工去請這個照顧家所以一系列的政策可能在最近可能會一系列的推出來會再有後續的政策那我希望政策是有效啦 |
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而且這個政策我覺得中央不用太擔心大家就是說中央政府跟地方政府大家應該是合作面對少子化議題也不是只有中央責任地方也是希望來出一點力但是我們卻看到一個公文 這個公文有點讓我納悶因為我剛剛舉了韓國的例子 韓國還鼓勵企業去 |
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去給育兒的獎勵金給獎勵金給他免稅但是我們看到我們的少子化政策這個中央就一個公文說如果是2到6歲中央有補助的話那地方政府就如果你要補助的話你就要就擴減中央對直轄市縣市的相關教育補助比例就要擴減意思就是說因應2到6歲的幼兒少子化的一個補助 |
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中央有做啦,地方不准做那你們當然這個理由,我可以理解這個理由你們是寫避免地方的財力不一,互相禁足產生福利遷移意思就是說後來比較賣,可能小孩就不要在那裡生我就稍微保養生,後來會比較好你們會煩惱一點,但是以我來看煩惱一點是假的啦 |
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反正這件事我覺得是假的啦因為你看現在啊有很多地方政府說中央有普發現金那我們地方也要普發現金那普發現金有的縣市有有的縣市沒有那沒有的他就會被批判啊怎樣 |
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事實上我覺得這樣都不好因為每個縣市都有他自己的財政能力去做他們自己財政能力可以做怎樣的事情那有的地方政府就認為說我的財政我想要放在少子化政策我想要把我的資源投注在這裡的爸爸媽媽有生小孩我再給他更大的一個誘因他快要選擇這樣做 |
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這中央教育是高利貸就不會付啊怎麼會對大家說你如果要少子化政策地方政府要加碼的話我就要擴減你對地方的這個補助比例這個是怎樣的邏輯產生這樣的決定這個部分跟委員報告這個部分我會來跟教育部這邊做一個協調我會跟那個部長這邊反映一下就是這個部分有沒有一些在商議的空間是啦 就是我有點搞不懂啦因為他針對2到6歲啦 |
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你知道現在很多地方針對營養午餐的政策也有每個縣市的不同調有的縣市財政能力比較好他營養午餐願意再加碼所以在2到6歲以外的福利的一個競逐你們覺得沒有關係但是2到6歲就不要有福利競逐 |
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這件事就是 我覺得有點本末倒置了照理說 如果這個地方政府真的鼓勵我有很好的財政能力 我要大幅的鼓勵 每個孩子在我這裡生 我讓他真的好好 加碼再加碼真的讓他下去做也沒關係 真的讓他下去嘗試看看尤其有一些戶籍想要簽的 可是戶籍要簽很容易啊 |
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他要簽戶籍也是要有 要有 要有資產不然就是你要有一個 一個其他人願意讓你簽啊也不是那麼簡單 會有簽戶籍但是總是地方政府願意做這件事啊給這些年輕人 爸爸媽媽想說 我的小孩子一隻好就真的很好這樣就讓他勇敢去嘗試啊地方政府他有這樣的財政能力給他去嘗試有什麼不好的 |
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好不好 這個你們再思考一下我來 我會再跟那個教育部長 政部長對 因為時間到 我就再呼籲一件事啦就是說因為台灣的偏鄉齁這個人口的一個減少當然很多人少子化感冠啊 不得這個高齡化一樣是要重視現在台灣就是齁 全國啦齁這個高齡的人口齁高齡人口比例最高的就是台北市第二就是我們嘉義縣齁 |
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台北市第一名 萬聖第二名但是我們看到的這些高齡化社會他很多就真的在於整咖沒辦法給年輕人回來住 |
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這個政客沒辦法讓年輕人回來住就是來自於說政客根本沒地讓年輕人可以回去住回去有一個地方住 都已經持份到破碎了所以要解決這個的一些政策上的一個工具就是鄉規 鄉村規劃 |
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那既然鄉規這麼重要的話我覺得國發會應該更大膽的把預算協助每個地方政府趕快來進行每一個村莊的鄉規讓這些村莊趕快把去怎麼這個化齡維整趕快把每一個 |
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薄樓都有辦法產生出一些間地出來大家要持分地看要怎麼恢復起來恢復起來 藉著這個枕頭也比較會活起來不然我們看到很多不管是以前把它叫做極限村還是以前叫做五子村裡這些名字都不好 |
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但是這裡的廟宇也都放很久了這無線村我記得2018年到現在都在放這個但是看起來都沒有辦法啊你面對這種超高齡的一些枕頭它一樣是那個地方沒有整個沒有他們的土地計劃沒有鄉村規劃所以土地破碎又零散這個事情到現在一樣無解一樣沒有看到 |
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政府要怎麼去輔導他們明明就有一個叫相規我們現在有實施相規的又少之又少這件事情國發會要重視啦好不好委員的意見我再跟那個劉部長這邊因為這個屬於內政部國土部我會跟他反映跟他協調 |
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當然他站在各部會啦,這個事情來進步國土事務沒問題啦,不然你國安會你就看到這裡台灣的這個現狀嘛,你國安會當然要站在說,我就是要改變這個現狀,你黨保安也是要叫他們就是要大力去做啊,好不好?我會反映委員的意見。好,謝謝主委,謝謝。 |