| IVOD_ID |
169026 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169026 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-36-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-30T11:17:45+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-30T11:27:29+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:44 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b51b6e95b687bd8e3304ef5992092dd6691b8901a2eb750d23be77335660865bbecabc25a29024875ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
蔡易餘 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:17:45 - 11:27:29 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於法務部及所屬主管收支部分。
二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部主管「法務部矯正機關作業基金」收支部分。
三、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於法務部主管「毒品防制基金」收支部分。
四、審查法務部函送財團法人臺灣更生保護會、財團法人福建更生保護會及財團法人犯罪被害人保護協會115年度預算書案。
【僅進行詢答；預算提案於5月14日下午2時截止收件】） |
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好 謝謝昭偉 那有請部長有請鄭部長委員好部長 現在事發委員會 今天生意不怎麼好馬上就到我外委員會那我想跟部長聊一下 現在台灣監獄 普遍還是有超收的狀況 |
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那在這種超收的一個情況之下我們長久以來在推動的就是說基於受刑人他們基本上我們還是希望他們有個人的一個床位的這個問題那又遇到超收那又遇到說我們想要推動這樣的政策那法務部到底要如何來落實這件事情呢 |
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跟委員報告事實上當然一人一床這是一個我們追求的一個目標那到今年二月的時候因為矯正機關目前統計的資料是有49,002床那床位的配置率是八成那我們一直會努力的往前推當然是持續往前推但是你看各個監獄這個超收率真的是看起來都蠻嚇人的 |
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像桃園監獄第一名 超收率是42台北看守所到了34這個超收率是很嚇人的對 它的確這部分當然像桃園那邊桃園外醫監現在也開始在啟用了 陸續在對 我知道桃園外醫監正在啟用部分要變成監獄的像台北那邊也是蠻擁擠的就是超收比較嚴重所以他們有一個簽件計畫 |
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部長這會延伸到我接下來要問的問題所以外遺間的功能大概你們認為越來越少了所以讓監獄來取代外遺間就可以了這樣嗎以現在的矯正政策來說現在還是我們在推動因為現在外遺間的條例現在外遺間的人數是很少的啊 |
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已經少到了 少到你說桃園外遇監他就要把他切出來一部分變成監獄的一部分外遇監就是要縮少了這是我看到的現在在調整的方向所以表示外遇監的功能弱化那監獄需要更多的監獄的空間來關這些受刑人變成現在我們的矯正政策會變這樣嗎 |
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那個跟委員報告其實外醫監的確是人比較少那現在陸續在放寬然後這個我想會做一些的調整這些那個受刑人到外醫監會持續的增加 |
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受刑人到外遇監人減少當然一部分是因為修法我們希望把重刑犯不要進入到外遇監那現在開始已經放寬了那現在陸續會增加對 可是重刑犯還是不進去嘛但是外遇監他的矯正功能基本上跟傳統的監獄還是有不一樣 |
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他更重視的就是讓這些受刑人他以後如何去快速的適應社會也就是我們要避免這些受刑人重複的犯罪 |
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我們希望他出來後就可以確實的更生然後賣得反嘴整個這個司法這個矯正系統裡面這才是我們要推動的一個目標啊所以部長事實上這又呈現幾個問題第一個就是說你們都沒有發現嗎你們最近對於不管是外議間的審查或者是假釋的審查都延宕很久 |
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照理說我們這一個月已經處理了這些外議監跟這些假釋的人員應該在當月份至少要處理完結果你們動不動就是拖了一個月甚至拖了一個多月甚至到了快兩個月這樣的一個時間的一個辦理的一個速度呢事實上只是會造成整個問題是往後就是沒有一個妥適的一個解決嘛 |
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這是第一類效率的問題效率的問題我搞不懂那第二個咧就是我想要跟部長聊一下就是說我們整個矯正的一個體系就是希望這些更生人要更生那延續剛剛很多人在講炸雞現在這麼多炸雞犯那這些炸雞犯尤其是這些車手他是年輕化的年輕的一個犯人 |
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而且這些車手會重複的不斷的犯罪那你們到底有沒有一套的更生計畫因為這樣的一個犯罪他跟毒品犯不一樣毒品犯是因為他成癮的關係所以他會再一次的吸毒過去很多監所都是這些毒品犯重複的一直進來現在不一樣變成詐欺犯那你們針對詐欺犯詐欺犯的這些更生人有沒有一套獨立的更生計畫我想要請教部長這件事情 |
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這個是在建立的收容這部分那個角色因為要復歸社會所以有一套的一個計畫這部分是不是請那個蘇貞好我是想要了解說這一些炸雞飯我們如何遏止他既然他就被關了那也出來了以後可不可以就不要再去當車手了我們有沒有怎樣才是落實讓他有效的更生呢跟委員報告一個炸雞飯的一個矯正需要多面向 |
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從他法律的一個素養到一個他的個人的經濟的一個還有他投資的理念還有他的就業他的工作他的技能跟他那個家庭的整個的一個影響全面的所以說每個受刑人呢在監理面對我們都他定有個別處於計畫當然啦 當然啦每個個別人他有不同的一個背景環境造成說他會去當這個我都了解但是你們總是要一套不同的去面對這樣這群年輕的受刑人 |
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這群車手是年輕的他跟傳統的犯罪又不太一樣這一群車手他們可能是對社會事務不清楚他就亂去做車手所以我們有五大面向的所以包括說原生家庭的問題也有原生家庭所以事實上法務部你們應該我們現在在打詐很重要可是打詐的這一塊已經讓這麼多車手他們未來就是要到監所去執行 |
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那這些到監所執行後 要怎麼讓他們不再回來 不再犯罪我覺得這才是我們整個矯正系統 要說 啊不然這些人都二三十歲重複犯罪 犯了一次 再犯了一次 然後加重再加重後可能他們真的到後面 過了最長的時間 關起來就四五十歲了這些人 大家說 人生缺角 本來缺角 |
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所以這是一個社會問題那既然有這個社會問題存在我希望法務部我們應該更積極的去面對這一群車手他們犯罪以後怎麼讓他們離開他們原始的犯罪集團 |
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他們也許說必須要離開他原生家庭到一個更好的環境去需要有進一步的收容如果他真的是處在一個很高犯罪的一個環境裡面也許他需要不同的一個收容方式直接有一套方式你們要去想嘛有有有 |
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他跟毒品犯罪是不一樣的耶我們目前也請專家學者來訂立研究計畫就我們目前處遇的時事情形的績效再給我們做個評估 給我們做個建議所以說對這一方面我們是很積極的在看待這個詐欺犯尤其他年齡層比較低的問題未來的話他犯罪歷程有可能會這個延續很久時間的問題這個是我們同步投尾在注意到的一個事項 |
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是啊 就是說他犯罪歷程會延續很久嘛所以這個人他未來這個車手未來要怎麼讓他真的要改過自新然後真的要去做 去變一個正常的一個人生那才是真的要更生啦所以這個人我覺得你要密切的輔導他們不是說他們這個人被判刑 做車手 拿去刮刮出來之後一半流流氣 |
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有可能他感覺工作上太累不然回來做廁所再躺一段日子這要遏止他們也是要靠你們的系統持續追蹤啊所以說他觀念我們首先跟他導正不要耗義務啦不要想說賺這個快錢那另外從法律層面我們跟他宣導讓他們習慣於工作那又回到我講的啦這些人他可能需要在透遊外溢間去媒合讓他去工廠去外面工廠去有一份正常的工作 |
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這樣下去我覺得他就真的需要你讓他趕快去有一個正常的工作至少他在姦扶行的時候,也可以透過一份正常有薪水的工作讓他出獄後,延續著這個套路給他享受我是覺得說這就要去做,不是讓這些人去拐起來拐起來之後給他處理,處理之後就犯罪,怎麼就回來啊 |
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這樣的話是一個失敗的矯正政策會會會原文的指導聖事我們會朝這方面積極的努力來做積極努力啦因為這個打炸事實上要事實上第一個面對的就是這麼多車手這些車手年輕人我們希望他們改過自新我們也希望他們可以找到人生開啟的第二條路好不好是是是這段話就要合作整合更多資源來做這一塊嘛好不好好謝謝好謝謝 |