| IVOD_ID |
168950 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168950 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-29T11:32:34+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-29T11:43:03+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:29 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6301273cb2dfee84e14b04996fa51f30461c7aa0775da53118096c5e05de57c68eac1b5e14df7b465ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳玉珍 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:32:34 - 11:43:03 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案有關財政部、國庫署、關務署及所屬、國有財產署及所屬、財政資訊中心歲出預算部分暨融資財源調度。（僅詢答）
二、審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分有關財政部主管債務基金－中央政府債務基金。（僅詢答）
【4月29日及30日二天一次會】
【預算提案截止時間：4月30日（四）下午5時】） |
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市長早 要跟你討論就是金門的這個地理位置其實有關這個兩岸的這個電商物流這個金門有一個地理優勢嘛 距離大陸近然後這個我們過去的產業比較單一嘛都是靠金酒啊 靠觀光啦那未來的話我們金門打算就是相較於從台北來經過台北轉運啊從料羅 |
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金門廖羅港直航這樣運輸物流時間快速很多了那你看看馬祖已經有在做了馬祖跟福州馬尾有做海上的貨運直航跨境電商最快隔日就會完成2024年就有在做了那我們金門現在的問題在哪裡呢 |
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包委員據我了解金門沒有業者提出申請沒有業者提出申請所以如果有業者提出申請那就可以開始就可以審核是嗎包委員依照我們現在的海運快遞貨物通關管理辦法的話現在是授權各關區譬如說金門的話就有高雄關他會去評估一些要件然後在10月的時候會公告說他有沒有人力或者是怎麼樣可以 |
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設幾條線10月份的時候高雄公安會公告就是說今年是115年 今年115年的時候10月會決定明年可不可以申請是嗎是你們是每一年審核一次是嗎對 依照剛剛講的那個海運快遞貨物的通關管理辦法一年就公告一次那我看到你們114年 去年是說這個115年是不受理喔海塊專區的深設或是擴限是吧 |
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是 高雄關去年那評估是因為高雄那邊沒有條件就是所以缺什麼條件呢它所謂的條件指的是說就是看哪些地方想要設這個海運快遞專區它要符合許多的一些要件譬如說要實體隔離啦或者有沒有作戰硬體設施是不是硬體設施你們能力夠不夠呢 |
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人力我們人力當然嚴重的不足尤其金門來說如果要設兩條線大概需要30到40人這樣的一個估計那一條線的話至少也要15到20人那你缺多少人呢為了產業的發展為了地區產業發展是應該提早做相關的這個準備 |
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對 那我們各關區人力的確目前都是不足的是嘛 尤其現在政府要進這個什麼馬鈴薯啊 發芽的啊什麼花生什麼各方面那事不上你們人力部是不是應該趕快提出相關的這個人力要怎麼擴編的這個準備啊我們也可以來協助啊這個我們也是支持啊 |
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報告委員我現在還沒有辦法跟人總那邊提出這樣的一個需求現在政府要那個竹科檢查馬雲署需要很多的人那是房檢署那邊但是進口的時候也要官員會用很多嘛對不對不然loading太重啊是 |
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總量限制有總量限制嗎 |
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有總量限制嗎 離島有總量限制嗎所謂的總量限制指的是專區總量的限制金門有沒有特別不算在我們頭還是我們需不需要我們在離島經濟條例幫你們協助金門就不要跟高雄一起算了就離島自己算了包委員這裡應該沒有所謂的總量限制需要在離島經濟條例協助修改沒有 |
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不用齁 不用齁 那這個沒問題那人力你們加油嘛 看我們需要做什麼協助那嚴一來幫你 好 謝謝您喔那我們大概如果下去金門地區有什麼需要的我們現場到時候去看好不好印尼設施什麼先來衝突喔 好 謝謝國產署齁 這個 |
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你們115年的預算案中有辦這個國有非公用文化資產修復及管理維護計畫還有向海致敬的計畫這兩個計畫那在這兩個計畫裡頭金門地區的這個預算有16億的這個16億的這個全國的這個修復計畫裡頭這個北區國產署是4億又426萬元金門縣是0元耶為什麼會這樣子 |
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根委員報告依照文資法的規定是看地上物因為地上物大部分都是國家公園管理的或縣政府或鄉公所管理的是要由他們來幫你修復土地的部分是國產署理論上這些單位可以來跟國產署撥用土地而且撥用的土地可以無償 |
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那我想請問 因為戰地這幾年撤軍多了很多營舍 軍方的這個營舍那這些全部我知道軍備全部都已經歸給國產署了吧陸陸續續典交很多的嘛 很多都還給國產署了現在主地都國產署 第三位都給你們了啊而且這些營舍都是50年以上啊跟委員報告啦現在軍方原則上第一個會先問地方政府公務署可以休息了也沒有什麼使用的需求 |
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如果都確定沒有不是 你們不是問我們許用效你們先把它整理好給我們因為這是你們的地上物是你們建物所有權是你們你剛剛是不是說如果是地上物是你們才歸你們管那現在進了好多軍營我們現在就請你們先弄好我們再來用 |
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你們的東西喔文資喔報告委員那個剛剛講的那個軍方移交過來的時候他有很多的地商物是要報廢然後可能都要拆除很多都可能都要經過文資法對不對那這不應該你們來做啊因為地商物給你們了啊 |
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沒有 如果今天是軍方移交的對 已經移交的移交的部分你現在的做法是說金門縣政府先問他有沒有用你們去做活用 活化嘛 對不對那這工作變成金門縣政府的那這個東西已經是國有財產署了已經是中華民國政府了所以這個第三步到底他是不是能拆除或不能拆除有文資法的問題嗎這邊跟你們去做 |
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這個我們會去中央政府包括軍備局他們會先去報報說有沒有適用文資身份如果沒有的話就是會做財產報費會由軍方拆除或是後面需要的機關來現在他撥給你們了 |
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撥給你們後土地是中華民國就是國產署在管的嘛那建物也是都撥給你們全部都屬於中華民國政府啊那就剛符合你剛說的嘛事實上省紀部都已經管你們了你們都管地部管屋省紀部都已經跟你們說了你剛才說建物所有我現在跟你講那些軍營也是歸你們的基本有好多軍營現在歸你們你們現在資產很多喔但是他有些不見得有機文資不一定是文資喔不一定是文資啦那這工作應該你們來做啊你是所有權人喔 |
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如果今天這個營區沒有使用的部分那個有一些老舊的營區政府要再編預算去把它修復那是你的工作 你是簽證所有權的呢 |
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問題是你修完的建築物是閒置啊不管你要做什麼那閒置你就要想辦法活化啊這就是國安參數的工作啊不然可以活化我們有一些認為管理上這是後面前面要先做嘛這是後面活化是前面前面不管要修復或是要維護或是要拆除這都是你的工作啊 |
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你沒有編預算你編預算編零你到底要怎麼做沒有沒有在移管的時候是還是有軍方負責所以你覺得是軍方要做這件事情對不對對來第一個然後第二個向海致敬的部分向海致敬這個我是不支持你這個看法但是我們再細細討論沒關係向海這個向海致敬的部分對不對海岸線你看金門的海岸線佔這個整個來講 |
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我們總長130公里 佔北區分屬你們的海岸線總長度21%你們根本預算只有10%我們有這麼多的海漂垃圾 我3月29日去海邊撿海漂這個漫長的海岸線你們都給我們不夠的資源 為什麼報告委員 第一個就是在海岸清理的部分是有前者劃分的 |
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如果在國家公園範圍內是有國家公園當然當然那如果有些是山崗啊或是你說在國家公園範圍即便這個海岸線是這個最海岸的邊邊都是國產區的土地對國產區是比較前面一點的行政院有一個分工原則他需要說每一公里的海岸都寸寸土地都有人清所以會有 |
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所以國家公園範圍內就是國家公園附屯那如果不是國家公園範圍內如果是山港或漁港就有山港或漁港的管理機關如果是河川就河川的管理機關如果是海邊呢它剩下的國有位登陸地才是有國產署所以我們每一年大概在這裡大概會花一千多萬到一千三百萬左右來辦你覺得這樣夠嗎 金門的海漂屋那麼多 |
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585.721 |
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這個他在核定中長程計劃的時候他有抓一個每公里的金額啦那因為不一樣的時間假設剛好碰到颱風或是有特別的情況之下不是不是基本上不是只有颱風才有海飄舞基本上每一天都有海飄舞我們有時候還是會做經費上面的調整就是說你這個東西可能我們先提出預算的凍結請你再 |
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587.422 |
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608.359 |
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專欄跟我們報告一下好嗎看一下我們這個海岸線你們到底要怎麼管另外的軍營的部分你也想一下要怎麼處理有這麼多的資產總是要好好的管理嘛我們再跟軍方了解一下其實真正營館的營區還不多啦不多好 那不多你就承擔責任啦因為軍方還是會有所謂的站起屏風的概念啦好 謝謝你們謝謝 謝謝委員謝謝下一位諮詢委員及李昆成委員諮詢 |
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621.455 |
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625.558 |
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說一下 因為李昆城委員跟駱斌財委員都是多五分鐘謝謝 謝謝主席我們請莊部長 |