| IVOD_ID |
168942 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168942 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-29T11:08:35+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-29T11:21:50+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:15 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6301273cb2dfee84163ef8bad1dc5da5a5b809b1091e157418096c5e05de57c6176963589987de955ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
徐欣瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:08:35 - 11:21:50 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請海洋委員會主任委員率同所屬列席報告業務概況(含上會期臨時提案辦理情形)，並備質詢。二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。三、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海洋委員會海洋保育署、國家海洋研究院部分。四、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於直轄市及縣市政府一般性補助款海洋委員會、海洋保育署部分。五、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於海洋委員會主管特別收入基金－海洋污染防治基金。
【詢答及處理，所列預算提案於115年4月27日(星期一)中午12時截止收件。】
【另本會115年4月23日台立內字第1154000532號函，相關預算提案截止收案時間延長至4月27日(星期一)中午12時。】
【4月29日、30日兩天一次會】） |
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好 謝謝主席 本席有請管主委主委你好主委好 主委我們今天審查預算那我們看到這個海委會在今年度總預算將近340億 |
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海巡署以及其所屬就編列了295億將近295億這表示我們海委會的預算核心大概就是我們海巡署這也是我們國家海洋安全的第一線 |
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那這些錢就是裡面當然我們都有看到籌建海巡艦艇巡護船發展計畫以及海巡艦船艇維運經費包含大修等等還有海巡碼頭強化整體發展及興建都包含在裡面 |
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那這些錢能不能真正轉化為防範灰色地帶襲擾的能力我們建制 |
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裝備或是硬體各方面那建制這個經費用了有沒有形成完整的戰力鏈這點我想國人也非常非常的關心所以現在台灣面對的海洋安全已經不是傳統的單一的威脅 |
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所以對於灰色地帶的襲擾我想主委應該很清楚我們不管是非法越界越界捕魚或者是一些像非法抽砂甚至走私偷渡 海上犯罪 |
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以及漁業衝突還有海難救助都是整個的海委會這裡海巡這裡的一個工作那所以像這樣的一個部分從買裝備有沒有到形成完整的戰力鏈我不知道說主委這裡有沒有針對這個每一項任務的預算佔比年度KPI責任單位以及應處流程有沒有一個完整的 |
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您先说明一下这一块整个战力链你们花这么多钱你对于比如说最简单的我们刚刚讲灰色地带洗澡发生的时候海巡如何及时发现 |
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跟委員報告 第一個當然是我們的秦堅真來講的話那昨天大家在報上看到就是我們企獲了一位準備要偷渡到對岸 求勇到對岸的一個偷渡犯我們把他抓到了 他是已經被判刑我不是在跟你談這樣的個案這個就是我們的裝備 |
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我們的裝備看到的,那是我們的紅外線的顯像,雷達掃不到先暫停,譬如說我們之前抓到一艘抽砂船,然後發現他也抽了很多我們的砂 |
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那我们要的是你怎么及时发现你能够及时恶阻那这个是更重要所以这样好了我第一个问就灰色地带洗澡发生的时候海巡如何及时发现 |
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我們一看到我們會從種種情間真的資訊屬於我們自己的資訊的話現在有辦法嗎我們每一次海警船一進來我們甚至於還沒有到我們就續船那怎麼會讓他這個沙抽了很多 |
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抽砂的部分跟委員報告而且通常抽砂應該都已經很靠岸了我們現在幾乎都歸零了抽砂這兩年幾乎都歸零了意思就是說都沒有發生了對 現在已經都沒有了因為我們法律修訂以後抓到就關一年以上然後船還可以沒收我還可以把你的船摧毀你還可以拍賣是 |
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我們發現以後 我們一個一個來目前主委認為可以及時發現發現之後是不是有建立跟相關單位包含像國防部或交通部 農業部或地方政府我們自己能處理的部分情資的共享 經常性我們都有平台已經都有平台在情資共享 |
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那有關海巡艦艇 岸際雷達 無人機以及巡防艇 還有特勤單位的分工也整個建置大家都很完善在海上應該要如何的協情合作委員知道就是說譬如說我們要去查一個毒品案那個是何等何等的風險那種高風險你不是合作無間那如果是這樣的話是不是多久可以提出 |
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提出給本委員會這個海域灰色地帶襲擾運儲的責任鏈這樣的一個報告可以嗎包含列出裝備你列出裝備而且清楚的發現通報派遣收證運儲 |
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以及到檢討的完整流程可以提供這份報告嗎 流程可以那接著本席往下再問就是說我們的這個設備埋了也很重要那但是呢像我們看到海巡署編列這個艦艇的籌建57億多維修也35億多那他的這個 |
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妥善率跟可用率大概是多少目前艦艇 這樣好了 因為時間關係是不是也可以提供給我們委員會可以齁 個型艦艇目前的妥善率跟可用率 我知道委員會有很多提案 |
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然後再來就是我們設備各方面都建置好其實我們的海巡人力也是很重要的所以本席想請問現在整個艦艇上的配備人力還有我們海巡弟兄的 |
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缺額聽說是蠻嚴重不足的跟委員報告我們到今年年底又會改善一波我先講現況先講一下現況現況大概是缺額1000億左右缺多少?9607 |
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對 967人但是到年底的時候我們還會再下修我們希望是差不多508人到年底我們大概會降到508人所以這一塊我們真的要加強但是這等於達成率都90%以上 |
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對,但是你看缺額這麼多,它展現出來的問題是什麼?展現出來的問題就是,因為這個不是文官的工作,所以他們的過度負荷,還有很辛苦,但是成果很好,所以真的是很心疼。當然很心疼,所以這一塊一定要想辦法改善,甚至本席聽說這個還有整個老化的問題。 |
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就是表示因為你看缺這麼多表示大家不願意來那這個誘因還有這個問題出在哪我想主委您一定要詳細去了解因為我們覺得人多就平安這個在警政署在消防署包含我們海巡 |
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這個人力一定要給他補足不然整個的勤務負荷還有我們想了解的是說因為我們看到整個的基本行政運作費海巡署也有達到155億多 |
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那所以除了興建廳舍各方面之外我們最想知道的是第一線海巡人員的勤務負荷危險的保險以及他救援效率還有 |
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這個整個對人民平安的整個的保障我們一直很努力在改善海巡團整個福利制度的照顧那為什麼缺額會這麼多你有沒有發現為什麼缺額這麼多問題出在哪裡跟委員報告少子化當然是一個大架構但是在去年四月份加薪了以後我們的招募的達成率大幅提高百分之二十幾喔所以留營率也大幅的提高 |
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因為時間的關係我想說到年底是508人的缺額的話可以看到那個缺額縮小到這個程度的時候那年輕人就等於是一直補進來了現在說到年底508可能也是您說到時候有沒有辦法招募這麼多 |
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都精順都精順沒關係但是我們更重視第一線人員他們的輪班負荷這個是不是有改善他們危險情務包含他心理壓力一些教育訓練這一塊我們希望真的要為我們海巡弟兄我去到哪裡都問說你的休假有沒有正常絕大多數都告訴我休假正常人力缺那麼多因為本席知道您剛三天坐那個艦艇回來 |
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我相信很多人都去支援您支援您那一艘艦艇那其他艘人力大概也就很缺乏各位報告沒有我們沒有因為這樣的行程影響勤務那這樣的行程本來就有任務所在的同仁必須要去那不會因為我去增加他們的負擔那最後我想那不然就 |
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也提出來給我們委員會海巡第一線人力他的勤務負荷危險保障還有心理支持改善的方案好不好對對對這第一個那第二個就是說海巡基本行政運作經費150億元多他的第一線授意說明也讓我們知道一下好不好那最後就是本席在 |
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113年5月29號特別質詢 |
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海委會去年年底有質詢這個海洋廢棄物的部分有關漁網這個部分我們漁網回收每一年有目標值我們目前都超過目標值不過跟委員報告就是說漁網漁去的廢棄物的處理這件事情對我們來講是很重要的一件事情 |
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但是這件事情我們跟漁業署之間魚網在那個底下要公道為因回收廢棄物的這件事情我們一直在努力那目前還在努力的過程之中如果我們指定他們很多魚網它就在海底整個的在那裡結果很多的魚都被它 |
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被那些漁網刺死了而且我們今天當然沒有時間講就是整個海委會海洋保育的部分大概預算7%這一塊真的要希望能夠我們的海洋保育還是非常重要請主委一定要重視好的我們包括整個海洋保育的組織改造都很重要我們計畫都做出來了組織改造但真正落實海洋保育更重要 |
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所以最後這個質詢是在告訴主委說你那一些魚網破掉魚網它纏在海底就把很多的魚啊魚都被這些魚網刺死了那都沒有人去清這一塊真的要重視每一年有一個目標值 |
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您每一年有目標值本席現在所講的就是很明確的我們知道這個很多年都一直在那邊漁網都沒有人親如果有關注的熱區那剛剛署長告訴我委員關注的那一區已經清完了是也有打電話跟漁民聯絡了是不是請署長解釋一下 |
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對 跟委員很快10秒鐘報告就是委員關注的那一件其實我們在漁網本來就有分級就是分它是近岸縣市或者是山海裡外的那委員關注的那一件我們有查到當時委員的那個漁會跟相關的漁民所以我們有跟他聯繫就是之前的這些都已經清掉了那漁民也反映最近目前的狀況是好那奇怪 我們昨天問是都沒有人去處理所以我們會後我們來了解好不好好 謝謝謝謝許卿穎委員 |