| IVOD_ID |
168942 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168942 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-29T11:08:35+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-29T11:21:50+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:15 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6301273cb2dfee84163ef8bad1dc5da5a5b809b1091e157418096c5e05de57c6176963589987de955ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
徐欣瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:08:35 - 11:21:50 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請海洋委員會主任委員率同所屬列席報告業務概況(含上會期臨時提案辦理情形)，並備質詢。二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。三、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海洋委員會海洋保育署、國家海洋研究院部分。四、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於直轄市及縣市政府一般性補助款海洋委員會、海洋保育署部分。五、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於海洋委員會主管特別收入基金－海洋污染防治基金。
【詢答及處理，所列預算提案於115年4月27日(星期一)中午12時截止收件。】
【另本會115年4月23日台立內字第1154000532號函，相關預算提案截止收案時間延長至4月27日(星期一)中午12時。】
【4月29日、30日兩天一次會】） |
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好 謝謝主席 本席有請管主委主委你好主委好 主委我們今天審查預算那我們看到這個海委會在今年度總預算將近340億 |
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海巡署以及其所屬就編列了295億將近295億這表示我們海委會的預算核心大概就是我們海巡署這也是我們國家海洋安全的第一線 |
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那這些錢就是裡面當然我們都有看到籌建海巡艦艇巡護船發展計畫以及海巡艦船艇維運經費包含大修等等還有海巡碼頭強化整體發展及興建都包含在裡面 |
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那這些錢能不能真正轉化為防範灰色地帶襲擾的能力我們建制 |
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裝備或是硬體各方面那建制這個經費用了有沒有形成完整的戰力鏈這點我想國人也非常非常的關心所以現在台灣面對的海洋安全已經不是傳統的單一的威脅 |
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所以對於灰色地帶的襲擾我想主委應該很清楚我們不管是非法越界越界捕魚或者是一些像非法抽砂甚至走私偷渡 海上犯罪 |
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以及漁業衝突還有海難救助都是整個的海委會這裡海巡這裡的一個工作那所以像這樣的一個部分從買裝備有沒有到形成完整的戰力鏈我不知道說主委這裡有沒有針對這個每一項任務的預算佔比年度KPI責任單位以及應處流程有沒有一個完整的 |
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您先说明一下这一块整个战力链你们花这么多钱你对于比如说最简单的我们刚刚讲灰色地带洗澡发生的时候海巡如何及时发现 |
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跟委員報告 第一個當然是我們的秦堅真來講的話那昨天大家在報上看到就是我們企獲了一位準備要偷渡到對岸 求勇到對岸的一個偷渡犯我們把他抓到了 他是已經被判刑我不是在跟你談這樣的個案這個就是我們的裝備 |
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我們的裝備看到的,那是我們的紅外線的顯像,雷達掃不到先暫停,譬如說我們之前抓到一艘抽砂船,然後發現他也抽了很多我們的砂 |
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那我们要的是你怎么及时发现你能够及时恶阻那这个是更重要所以这样好了我第一个问就灰色地带洗澡发生的时候海巡如何及时发现 |
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我們一看到我們會從種種情間真的資訊屬於我們自己的資訊的話現在有辦法嗎我們每一次海警船一進來我們甚至於還沒有到我們就續船那怎麼會讓他這個沙抽了很多 |
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抽砂的部分跟委員報告而且通常抽砂應該都已經很靠岸了我們現在幾乎都歸零了抽砂這兩年幾乎都歸零了意思就是說都沒有發生了對 現在已經都沒有了因為我們法律修訂以後抓到就關一年以上然後船還可以沒收我還可以把你的船摧毀你還可以拍賣是 |
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我們發現以後 我們一個一個來目前主委認為可以及時發現發現之後是不是有建立跟相關單位包含像國防部或交通部 農業部或地方政府我們自己能處理的部分情資的共享 經常性我們都有平台已經都有平台在情資共享 |
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那有關海巡艦艇 岸際雷達 無人機以及巡防艇 還有特勤單位的分工也整個建置大家都很完善在海上應該要如何的協情合作委員知道就是說譬如說我們要去查一個毒品案那個是何等何等的風險那種高風險你不是合作無間那如果是這樣的話是不是多久可以提出 |
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提出給本委員會這個海域灰色地帶襲擾運儲的責任鏈這樣的一個報告可以嗎包含列出裝備你列出裝備而且清楚的發現通報派遣收證運儲 |
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以及到檢討的完整流程可以提供這份報告嗎 流程可以那接著本席往下再問就是說我們的這個設備埋了也很重要那但是呢像我們看到海巡署編列這個艦艇的籌建57億多維修也35億多那他的這個 |
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妥善率跟可用率大概是多少目前艦艇 這樣好了 因為時間關係是不是也可以提供給我們委員會可以齁 個型艦艇目前的妥善率跟可用率 我知道委員會有很多提案 |
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然後再來就是我們設備各方面都建置好其實我們的海巡人力也是很重要的所以本席想請問現在整個艦艇上的配備人力還有我們海巡弟兄的 |
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缺額聽說是蠻嚴重不足的跟委員報告我們到今年年底又會改善一波我先講現況先講一下現況現況大概是缺額1000億左右缺多少?9607 |
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對 967人但是到年底的時候我們還會再下修我們希望是差不多508人到年底我們大概會降到508人所以這一塊我們真的要加強但是這等於達成率都90%以上 |
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對,但是你看缺額這麼多,它展現出來的問題是什麼?展現出來的問題就是,因為這個不是文官的工作,所以他們的過度負荷,還有很辛苦,但是成果很好,所以真的是很心疼。當然很心疼,所以這一塊一定要想辦法改善,甚至本席聽說這個還有整個老化的問題。 |
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就是表示因為你看缺這麼多表示大家不願意來那這個誘因還有這個問題出在哪我想主委您一定要詳細去了解因為我們覺得人多就平安這個在警政署在消防署包含我們海巡 |
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這個人力一定要給他補足不然整個的勤務負荷還有我們想了解的是說因為我們看到整個的基本行政運作費海巡署也有達到155億多 |
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那所以除了興建廳舍各方面之外我們最想知道的是第一線海巡人員的勤務負荷危險的保險以及他救援效率還有 |
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這個整個對人民平安的整個的保障我們一直很努力在改善海巡團整個福利制度的照顧那為什麼缺額會這麼多你有沒有發現為什麼缺額這麼多問題出在哪裡跟委員報告少子化當然是一個大架構但是在去年四月份加薪了以後我們的招募的達成率大幅提高百分之二十幾喔所以留營率也大幅的提高 |
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因為時間的關係我想說到年底是508人的缺額的話可以看到那個缺額縮小到這個程度的時候那年輕人就等於是一直補進來了現在說到年底508可能也是您說到時候有沒有辦法招募這麼多 |
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都精順都精順沒關係但是我們更重視第一線人員他們的輪班負荷這個是不是有改善他們危險情務包含他心理壓力一些教育訓練這一塊我們希望真的要為我們海巡弟兄我去到哪裡都問說你的休假有沒有正常絕大多數都告訴我休假正常人力缺那麼多因為本席知道您剛三天坐那個艦艇回來 |
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我相信很多人都去支援您支援您那一艘艦艇那其他艘人力大概也就很缺乏各位報告沒有我們沒有因為這樣的行程影響勤務那這樣的行程本來就有任務所在的同仁必須要去那不會因為我去增加他們的負擔那最後我想那不然就 |
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也提出來給我們委員會海巡第一線人力他的勤務負荷危險保障還有心理支持改善的方案好不好對對對這第一個那第二個就是說海巡基本行政運作經費150億元多他的第一線授意說明也讓我們知道一下好不好那最後就是本席在 |
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113年5月29號特別質詢 |
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海委會去年年底有質詢這個海洋廢棄物的部分有關漁網這個部分我們漁網回收每一年有目標值我們目前都超過目標值不過跟委員報告就是說漁網漁去的廢棄物的處理這件事情對我們來講是很重要的一件事情 |
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但是這件事情我們跟漁業署之間魚網在那個底下要公道為因回收廢棄物的這件事情我們一直在努力那目前還在努力的過程之中如果我們指定他們很多魚網它就在海底整個的在那裡結果很多的魚都被它 |
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被那些漁網刺死了而且我們今天當然沒有時間講就是整個海委會海洋保育的部分大概預算7%這一塊真的要希望能夠我們的海洋保育還是非常重要請主委一定要重視好的我們包括整個海洋保育的組織改造都很重要我們計畫都做出來了組織改造但真正落實海洋保育更重要 |
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所以最後這個質詢是在告訴主委說你那一些魚網破掉魚網它纏在海底就把很多的魚啊魚都被這些魚網刺死了那都沒有人去清這一塊真的要重視每一年有一個目標值 |
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您每一年有目標值本席現在所講的就是很明確的我們知道這個很多年都一直在那邊漁網都沒有人親如果有關注的熱區那剛剛署長告訴我委員關注的那一區已經清完了是也有打電話跟漁民聯絡了是不是請署長解釋一下 |
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對 跟委員很快10秒鐘報告就是委員關注的那一件其實我們在漁網本來就有分級就是分它是近岸縣市或者是山海裡外的那委員關注的那一件我們有查到當時委員的那個漁會跟相關的漁民所以我們有跟他聯繫就是之前的這些都已經清掉了那漁民也反映最近目前的狀況是好那奇怪 我們昨天問是都沒有人去處理所以我們會後我們來了解好不好好 謝謝謝謝許卿穎委員 |
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徐委員欣瑩 |
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謝謝主席。 |
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徐委員欣瑩 |
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本席有請管主委。 |
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管主任委員碧玲 |
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徐委員好。 |
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主委好。 |
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徐委員欣瑩 |
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主委，今天審查預算，我們看到海委會今年度總預算將近340億，海巡署以及其所屬就編列了將近295億，這表示海委會的預算核心大概就是我們海巡署，這也是我們國家海洋安全的第一線。 |
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徐委員欣瑩 |
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我們有看到籌建海巡艦艇、巡護船發展計畫，以及海巡艦船艇維運經費，包含大修等等，還有海巡碼頭強化整體發展及興建都包含在裡面，這些錢能不能真正轉化為防範灰色地帶襲擾的能力？ |
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徐委員欣瑩 |
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我們建置裝備或是硬體各方面，用了建置經費有沒有形成完整的戰力鏈？ |
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徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-04-29T11:10:08.708000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-04-29T11:10:12.011000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].text |
這點我想國人也非常非常的關心。 |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-04-29T11:10:13.412000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-04-29T11:10:42.376000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].text |
現在臺灣面對的海洋安全已經不是傳統單一的威脅，對於灰色地帶的襲擾，我想主委應該很清楚，不管是非法越界、越界捕魚，或是像非法抽砂，甚至走私偷渡、海上犯罪、漁業衝突、海難救助都是海委會海巡的工作。 |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-04-29T11:10:47.058000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-04-29T11:10:50.520000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].text |
買了裝備有沒有形成完整的戰力鏈？ |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-04-29T11:10:50.520000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-04-29T11:11:19.388000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
我不知道主委有沒有針對每一項任務的預算占比、年度KPI、責任單位以及應處流程，有沒有完整的……您先說明一下整個戰力鏈，你們花這麼多錢，譬如說最簡單的，我們剛剛講的灰色地帶襲擾發生的時候，海巡如何及時發現？ |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.717 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-04-29T11:11:21.011000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-04-29T11:11:41.385000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
跟委員報告，第一個，我們的情監偵來講，昨天大家在報上看到，我們緝獲了一位泅泳準備要偷渡到對岸的偷渡犯，我們把他抓到了，他是已經被判刑…… |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-04-29T11:11:41.405000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-04-29T11:11:42.346000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].text |
沒有，我不是在跟你談這樣的個案。 |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-04-29T11:11:42.626000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-04-29T11:11:46.609000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
這個就是我們的裝備看到的。對、對。 |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-04-29T11:11:46.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-04-29T11:11:52.215000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
那是我們的紅外線熱顯像儀看到的，雷達掃不到。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-04-29T11:11:52.976000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-04-29T11:11:54.197000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
好，先暫停。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-04-29T11:11:55.638000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-04-29T11:12:02.945000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
譬如說，我們之前抓到一艘抽砂船，發現他抽了很多我們的砂…… |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-04-29T11:12:02.945000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-04-29T11:12:04.527000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
我們有派…… |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-04-29T11:12:04.527000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-04-29T11:12:09.814000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
我們要的是你怎麼及時發現、及時嚇阻？ |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-04-29T11:12:11.316000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-04-29T11:12:11.817000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
這個更重要…… |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-04-29T11:12:11.817000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-04-29T11:12:13.259000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
我們雷達一發現，我們船就會過去。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-04-29T11:12:13.259000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-04-29T11:12:18.386000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
這樣好了，第一個我要問，灰色地帶襲擾發生的時候，海巡如何及時發現？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.517 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-04-29T11:12:20.107000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-04-29T11:12:25.609000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
我們會從種種情監偵的資訊，屬於我們自己的資訊的話，我們的雷達看到…… |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-29T11:12:25.609000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-04-29T11:12:27.510000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
現在有辦法嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-04-29T11:12:27.850000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-04-29T11:12:31.251000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
每次海警船一進來，甚至於還沒有到，我們的船就去預置…… |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.783 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-04-29T11:12:32.771000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-04-29T11:12:34.952000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
那怎麼還會讓他抽了很多砂？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-29T11:12:35.872000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-04-29T11:12:37.633000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
抽砂的部分，跟委員報告，我們透過法律的制定…… |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.526 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-04-29T11:12:38.094000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-04-29T11:12:40.535000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
而且通常抽砂應該都已經很靠岸。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-29T11:12:42.776000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-04-29T11:12:44.597000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
抽砂這兩年幾乎都歸零了。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-29T11:12:45.178000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-04-29T11:12:46.678000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
意思就是都沒有發生了？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-29T11:12:47.499000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-04-29T11:12:54.603000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
對，現在已經都沒有了，因為我們法律修訂以後，抓到就關一年以上，船可以沒收，我還可以把你的船摧毀。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-29T11:12:54.603000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-04-29T11:12:55.984000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
你還可以拍賣嘛！是。 |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-29T11:12:55.984000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-04-29T11:12:58.765000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
我們還有一艘…… |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-29T11:12:58.765000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-29T11:13:13.513000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
我們發現以後……目前主委認為可以及時發現，發現之後是不是跟相關單位建立……包含像國防部或交通部、農業部或地方政府共享情資？ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-29T11:13:14.654000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-29T11:13:18.936000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
情資共享的部分，我們經常性都有平臺。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.625 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-29T11:13:18.936000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-29T11:13:20.137000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
都已經建構完成了？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-29T11:13:20.137000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-29T11:13:23.559000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
都已經有平臺在情資共享，情資都可以交換。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-29T11:13:25.380000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-29T11:13:35.085000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
有關海巡艦艇、岸際雷達、無人機、巡防艇、特勤單位的分工整個建置都已經很完善？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-29T11:13:35.565000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-29T11:13:45.491000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
是，他們在海上應該要如何協勤合作，委員知道譬如說，我們要去查一個毒品案，那是何等的風險？ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-29T11:13:45.491000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-04-29T11:13:47.792000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
那種高風險，若不是合作無間，沒辦法完成。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.647 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-29T11:13:47.952000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-04-29T11:13:56.906000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
如果這樣的話，多久可以提出給本委員會海域灰色地帶襲擾應處責任鏈的報告？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-29T11:13:56.906000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-04-29T11:13:57.906000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
責任鏈，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-29T11:13:57.906000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-04-29T11:13:58.906000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
就是我們應處的數量，包含軍演的次數…… |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-29T11:13:57.386000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-04-29T11:14:15.065000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
包含列出裝備……我講一下，列出裝備，而且清楚發現通報、派遣、蒐證、應處以及到檢討的完整流程，可以提供這份報告嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.851 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-29T11:14:15.065000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-29T11:14:15.746000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
流程可以。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-29T11:14:17.007000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-04-29T11:14:36.929000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
接著本席往下問，我們買了設備很重要，但是我們看到海巡署編列艦艇籌建五十七億多，維修三十五億多，它的妥善率跟可用率大概是多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.842 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-29T11:14:38.591000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-04-29T11:14:42.196000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
這樣好了，因為時間的關係，是不是可以提供給我們委員會？好。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-29T11:14:44.559000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-04-29T11:14:47.983000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
請提供各型艦艇目前的妥善率跟可用率。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.765 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-29T11:14:48.423000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-04-29T11:14:49.705000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
我知道委員很關心，委員有很多提案。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-04-29T11:14:51.406000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-04-29T11:15:08.852000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
再來，我們設備各方面都建置好，其實我們的海巡人力也是很重要的，所以本席想請問，現在整個艦艇配備的人力還有海巡弟兄的缺額聽說是嚴重不足的。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.984 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-04-29T11:15:09.052000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-04-29T11:15:12.413000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
跟委員報告，我們到今年年底又會改善一波。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-04-29T11:15:13.434000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-04-29T11:15:13.734000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
先講一下現況…… |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-04-29T11:15:13.734000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-04-29T11:15:14.654000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
現況大概是缺額一千人左右。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-04-29T11:15:14.894000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-04-29T11:15:15.254000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
缺多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-04-29T11:15:15.254000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-04-29T11:15:21.817000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
缺一千名？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-04-29T11:15:21.817000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-04-29T11:15:24.679000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
缺967人，但是到年底的時候還會再下修，我們希望到年底大概缺額會降到508人。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.633 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-04-29T11:15:25.059000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-04-29T11:15:26.320000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
到年底降到508人，這一塊你們真的要加強。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-04-29T11:15:26.320000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-04-29T11:15:27.361000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
但是等於達成率都90%以上。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-04-29T11:15:42.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-04-29T11:15:44.151000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
對，但是你看缺額這麼多，展現出來的問題…… |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.588 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-04-29T11:15:44.151000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-04-29T11:15:45.151000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
到年底會大幅改善。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-04-29T11:15:44.751000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-04-29T11:15:55.337000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
展現出來的問題是，因為這不是文官的工作，他們過度負荷還有其實…… |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-04-29T11:15:56.177000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-04-29T11:16:01.420000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
很辛苦，但是成果很好，真的很心疼。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-04-29T11:16:02.040000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-04-29T11:16:05.002000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
很辛苦，當然很心疼，所以這一塊一定要想辦法改善。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-04-29T11:16:05.002000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-04-29T11:16:06.002000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
所以委員都很支持，我們都很感謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-04-29T11:16:05.522000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-04-29T11:16:17.525000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
甚至本席聽說還有整個老化的問題，你看缺這麼多，表示大家不願意來，這個誘因還有這個問題出在哪？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-04-29T11:16:17.525000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-04-29T11:16:18.525000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
跟委員報告…… |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-04-29T11:16:18.486000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-04-29T11:16:32.163000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
主委，您一定要詳細了解，我們覺得人多就平安，不管在警政署、消防署，也包含海巡都是這樣，人力一定要補足，不然整個勤務負荷過重。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.852 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-04-29T11:16:34.446000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-04-29T11:16:49.786000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
我們想了解的是，整個基本行政運作費，海巡署達到一百五十五億多，除了興建廳舍各方面之外…… |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.872 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-04-29T11:16:49.786000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-04-29T11:16:51.308000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
人事費。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-04-29T11:16:51.308000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-04-29T11:17:02.574000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
我們最想知道的是，第一線海巡人員的勤務負荷、危險的保險以及救援效率、對人民平安的保障。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-04-29T11:17:02.594000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-04-29T11:17:06.915000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
我們一直很努力在改善海巡同仁福利制度的照顧…… |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-04-29T11:17:06.915000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-04-29T11:17:08.755000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
很努力改善，那為什麼缺額會這麼多？ |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-04-29T11:17:08.995000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-04-29T11:17:11.436000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
你有沒有發現問題在哪？ |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-04-29T11:17:11.436000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-04-29T11:17:12.436000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
去年總統也有給他們加薪。 |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-04-29T11:17:11.436000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-04-29T11:17:12.536000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
為什麼缺額這麼多？ |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-04-29T11:17:13.256000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-04-29T11:17:14.616000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
問題出在哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-04-29T11:17:14.616000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-04-29T11:17:29.379000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
跟委員報告，少子化當然是一個大架構，但是去年4月加薪以後，我們的招募達成率大幅提高百分之二十幾，留營率也大幅提高…… |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-04-29T11:17:30.920000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-04-29T11:17:31.701000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
因為時間的關係，我想…… |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-04-29T11:17:32.021000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-04-29T11:17:40.950000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
到年底缺額是508人的話，可以看到缺額縮小到這個程度的時候，就等於年輕人一直補進來。 |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.861 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-04-29T11:17:42.491000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-04-29T11:17:46.415000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
到年底缺508人是您說的，到時候有沒有辦法招募這麼多？ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.864 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-04-29T11:17:47.156000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-04-29T11:17:47.336000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
這個都有精算。 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-04-29T11:17:48.476000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-04-29T11:18:02.821000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
沒關係，但是我們更重視第一線人員的輪班負荷是不是有改善，他們的危險勤務、心理壓力、教育訓練，這一塊，我們希望要為我們海巡弟兄特別…… |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.931 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-04-29T11:18:02.961000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-04-29T11:18:07.623000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
我去到哪裡都問說你的休假有沒有正常，絕大多數都告訴我可以正常休假。 |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0.871 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-04-29T11:18:08.063000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-04-29T11:18:23.627000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
你看人力缺那麼多，本席知道您三天前坐艦艇回來，我相信很多人都去支援您那一艘艦艇，其他艘人力大概就很缺乏。 |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-04-29T11:18:24.548000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-04-29T11:18:34.890000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
跟委員報告沒有，我們沒有因為這樣的行程影響勤務，這樣的行程本來就有任務所在的同仁必須要去，不會因為我去而增加他們的負擔。 |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-04-29T11:18:35.231000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-04-29T11:18:47.778000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
最後，請提出來給我們委員會關於海巡第一線人力的勤務負荷、危險保障、心理支持改善的方案，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-04-29T11:18:48.839000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-04-29T11:18:49.860000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
這是第一個。 |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-04-29T11:18:49.860000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-04-29T11:18:50.860000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
好，委員有一個提案，我們會來提供。 |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-04-29T11:18:50.140000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-04-29T11:18:59.467000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
第二個，海巡基本行政運作經費一百五十億元多，它的第一線受益說明也讓我們知道一下，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0.825 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-04-29T11:18:59.467000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-04-29T11:19:01.542500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
最後，本席在這一屆（第11屆）連續質詢兩次，但是你們都沒做的，主委，您知道是什麼嗎？有嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
0.143 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-04-29T11:19:01.542500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-04-29T11:19:03.618000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
委員請說。 |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-04-29T11:19:03.618000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-04-29T11:19:35.269000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
113年5月29號特別質詢……海委會的話是去年年底有質詢海洋廢棄物、漁網的部分，這也是…… |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0.788 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-04-29T11:19:36.629000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-04-29T11:19:55.199000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
我們漁網回收每一年有目標值，我們目前都超過目標值，不過跟委員報告，漁網、漁具廢棄物的處理這件事情，對我們來講是很重要的一件事情，但是這件事情，我們跟漁業署之間…… |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0.986 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-04-29T11:19:55.199000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2026-04-29T11:19:56.099000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
對，漁網在那個底下…… |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-04-29T11:19:56.540000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-04-29T11:20:02.964000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
要公告為應回收廢棄物的這件事情，我們一直在努力，目前還在努力的過程之中。不是…… |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0.886 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-04-29T11:20:04.386000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-04-29T11:20:05.566000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
如果我們指定它們是…… |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-04-29T11:20:05.566000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-04-29T11:20:15.193000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
很多漁網就在海底，結果很多魚都被那些漁網刺死。 |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-04-29T11:20:15.193000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2026-04-29T11:20:16.953000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
我們每一年有補助，我們每一年有補助清除的計畫。 |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2026-04-29T11:20:16.953000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2026-04-29T11:20:20.874000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
我們今天當然沒有時間講，整個海委會…… |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2026-04-29T11:20:20.874000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2026-04-29T11:20:21.874000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
我們再把數字給委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2026-04-29T11:20:20.874000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2026-04-29T11:20:30.137000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
海洋保育部分的預算大概是7%，這一塊真的希望能夠……我們的海洋保育還是非常重要，請主委一定要重視。 |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
0.907 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2026-04-29T11:20:30.137000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2026-04-29T11:20:35.239000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
好的，包括整個海洋保育組織改造都很重要，我們的計畫都做出來了，現在就是要爭取支持。 |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
0.73 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2026-04-29T11:20:35.959000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2026-04-29T11:20:39.020000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
組織改造，但真正落實海洋保育更重要！ |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2026-04-29T11:20:39.020000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2026-04-29T11:20:40.020000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
是，因為組織健全了，我們才能夠做得好。 |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2026-04-29T11:20:39.560000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2026-04-29T11:20:49.350000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
所以本席最後這個質詢是在告訴主委，那些破掉的漁網纏在海底，就把很多魚…… |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2026-04-29T11:20:49.350000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2026-04-29T11:20:50.350000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
我們都有補助清除計畫。 |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2026-04-29T11:20:49.830000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2026-04-29T11:20:56.937000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
魚都被這些漁網刺死了，都沒有人去清，這一塊真的要重視！ |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
0.958 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2026-04-29T11:20:56.937000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2026-04-29T11:20:57.918000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].text |
不會沒有人去清，我們每一年有一個目標值。 |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2026-04-29T11:20:59.959000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2026-04-29T11:21:08.062000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
你每一年有目標值，但本席現在所講的就是，很明確的我們知道很多年漁網一直在那邊都沒有人清，我都可以具體舉出來讓您了解。 |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2026-04-29T11:21:09.082000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2026-04-29T11:21:21.047000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].text |
好，委員如果有關注的熱區，剛剛署長告訴我，委員關注的那一區已經清完了，也有打電話跟漁民聯絡了，是不是請署長解釋一下？好。 |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
0.925 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
陸署長曉筠 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2026-04-29T11:21:22.947000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2026-04-29T11:21:25.189000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].text |
委員，很快10秒鐘報告。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
陸署長曉筠 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2026-04-29T11:21:26.229000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2026-04-29T11:21:41.278000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
委員關注的那一件，其實我們在漁網的部分本來就有分級，就是分近岸縣市或者是3浬外，委員關注的那一件，我們有查到當時那個漁會跟相關的漁民，所以我們有跟他聯繫，之前這些都已經清掉了，漁民也反映最近狀況是好的。 |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
0.946 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2026-04-29T11:21:41.718000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2026-04-29T11:21:46.381000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
奇怪，我們昨天問是都沒有人去處理，會後我們來了解。 |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
陸署長曉筠 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2026-04-29T11:21:46.381000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2026-04-29T11:21:47.381000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].text |
沒問題，委員再跟我們說，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
徐委員欣瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2026-04-29T11:21:46.661000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2026-04-29T11:21:46.681000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2026-04-29T11:21:46.681000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2026-04-29T11:21:46.901000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].text |
謝謝徐欣瑩委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[115].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2026-04-29T11:21:47.401000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2026-04-29T11:21:53.401000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].text |
接下來請洪毓祥委員、洪毓祥委員、洪毓祥委員不在。 |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2026-04-29T11:21:53.701000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[117].end |
2026-04-29T11:21:58.843857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].text |
請蘇清泉委員、蘇清泉委員、蘇清泉委員不在。 |
| transcript.gazette[117].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2026-04-29T11:21:59.143857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[118].end |
2026-04-29T11:22:04.286714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].text |
請陳冠廷委員、陳冠廷委員、陳冠廷委員不在。 |
| transcript.gazette[118].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[119].start |
2026-04-29T11:22:04.586714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[119].end |
2026-04-29T11:22:09.729571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].text |
請楊瓊瓔委員、楊瓊瓔委員、楊瓊瓔委員不在。 |
| transcript.gazette[119].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2026-04-29T11:22:10.029571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[120].end |
2026-04-29T11:22:11.743857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].text |
請葉元之委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[120].quality |
0 |