| IVOD_ID |
168933 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168933 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-29T09:45:43+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-29T09:57:08+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:25 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6301273cb2dfee84065285a19d60692ea5b809b1091e157418096c5e05de57c6711898d07e4142ab5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張智倫 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:45:43 - 09:57:08 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請海洋委員會主任委員率同所屬列席報告業務概況(含上會期臨時提案辦理情形)，並備質詢。二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。三、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海洋委員會海洋保育署、國家海洋研究院部分。四、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於直轄市及縣市政府一般性補助款海洋委員會、海洋保育署部分。五、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於海洋委員會主管特別收入基金－海洋污染防治基金。
【詢答及處理，所列預算提案於115年4月27日(星期一)中午12時截止收件。】
【另本會115年4月23日台立內字第1154000532號函，相關預算提案截止收案時間延長至4月27日(星期一)中午12時。】
【4月29日、30日兩天一次會】） |
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好謝謝主席各位委員各位官員大家早有請管碧玲管主委 |
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主委好今天是有關於海委會海巡署等等相關單位預算的諮詢首先我要先謝謝主委我們都支持海巡海委會相關的預算謝謝委員我也非常支持我必須公開重重的感謝委員當然立法委員我們還是要好好來監督人民的荷包跟納稅錢 |
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那首先我要先請教這個主委有關無人機的問題當然因應現在我們這個海巡署要去針對台海的情勢的升高跟我們的救災氣土等等的一些作業所以無人機是我們我國現在海巡署 |
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一個非常重要的業務可是我們看到從107年我們海巡署開始購買無人機的時候我們叫它第一代無人機都是我們用公務預算來變那時候買了20架那經費可以看一下這個螢幕我們一台的無人機的單價大概是450萬元 |
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那到今年開始我們開始買了新的第二代的無人機那我們本行很關心那我們第二代無人機買的是價格是多少錢我們看到無人機的價格暴漲了將近快要四倍1600萬將近1700萬的 |
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這個金額 那我們本席想問的是說當然我們支持海偶會做任何的它的職業的業務那可是這個等等一般民眾的認知價格一代機跟二代機的價格為什麼差那麼多是性能有差異還是等等什麼原因是不是可以給主委說明一下謝謝委員詮詢委員對於這個課題已經關心很長期持續那我們了解委員非常的關心說我們到底有沒有買貴 |
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那我也跟委員報告我對海巡他對於無人機大概我主要管兩件事情第一件事情是你的功能部署對不對你的功能部署要達到什麼樣的效能這個我會掌控另外就是說你絕對不能買貴然後你要基於國安還有因為有紅色供應鏈的問題基於國安還有要買最新最好的 |
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我大概就是這幾個指示那至於說細節的部分本席都支持主委的想法可是就現在的就像現在我們所有第一線操作人員來講他一代機的價格才450萬二代機竟然高達1600多萬那你性能就像你講主委講的性能有什麼問題還是說他可以改成軍用的未來要改成軍用嗎 |
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我請署長我們都是軍用商工時間關係兩代的信人本席手動都有我看不出來信人到底差異在哪裡 |
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這個可以簡單說明一下我們現在海巡主要是在徵收的功能所以他的性能是大幅提升跟第一代不一樣另外第一代報價是民國105年的報價那我們現在的報價跟將近10年的報價所以他的不管是物條不管是他的功能規格所以明確講出來代表功能差異在哪裡 |
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因為我有兩個功能第一個部分就是它的徵收的不一樣然後它的導控不一樣然後距離不一樣 高度不一樣然後它的後面的訓練不一樣沒錯啊 就像我們手機啊大概iPhone 1跟iPhone X不一樣可是價錢也不會差到四五倍啊跟委員報告齁我舉10秒鐘就是我要講的就是說我們現在媒體上報的就是我們現在要買的MQ-9V這是高供無人機是不是未來有跟軍用的有相關的年車才會這麼貴嗎 |
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我們這款是軍規的然後商用未來軍事作戰可以使用可以使用但是我們的功能主要在徵收的部分第一個我認為單價的部分其實我們都支持海巡海委會的預算可是單價的部分希望未來在採買的時候因為我們都其實本席現在對於採買金額最困擾的就是說在預算編列的時候我們沒有辦法詢問相關內容細節我們都不知道 |
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那等絕標了以後差異竟然那麼大我們看到功能別好像差異也沒那麼多所以我還希望說這是第一個問題那第二個問題我們想要請教訓練費的部分訓練費的部分我發現我們二代機的訓練費 |
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總金額大於一代機非常多我們平均換算一台一台的魚人機的訓練單價將近要一千萬喔比過去二代機的一台訓練單價要一千萬比一代機的單價高出許多總金額高達只訓練只做六台喔可是比二十台的訓練的這個金額增加六十七倍 |
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那我的意思就是說這個訓練費這一代機跟二代機的訓練會差那麼多嗎那本席想要建議的就是我們的無人機應該採用在地化訓練的話不管一代機跟二代機應該訓練出種子教官而不是有我認為這個有點經驗的訓練費太高是不是可以解釋一下 |
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跟委員報告 那我們現在的所謂非無人機 公務機關無人機一定要有考照那我們這一款的無人機是VITAL的 也就是他同時具備旋翼跟定義機的機能所以他要考到四張照 那跟委員報告 我們有一個數據我們之前送去訓練的這個 要考到四張照大概要花費 每一個人 因為他要包括時數所以一個人大概要受訓四到五個月 那一個人的費用將近五十萬 |
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特別跟委,就光訓練費用而已所以這部分跟委報告因為我們每一個人要取得證照才可以去飛這無人機 |
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本席想要了解的是說是不是有什麼特殊的操作技巧還是說有特殊的徵收技術還是說你們應該要匯到美國去受訓所以本席想說為什麼訓練的金分一台我算在一台平均單價一千萬這個跟一般我們民眾的認知差異很大到軍規的程度你們有訓練軍事相關的訓練嗎 |
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等個過去一代機的時候它是沒有含訓練費用在裡面嘛取證費用沒有在裡面嘛但是現在是已經都要求要在裡面了那剛剛有跟委員報告就是說因為四張證照以前一代機的時候其實有訓練費用一台的訓練費用大概是四萬九千塊那二代機的訓練費用我們剛剛簡單算起來一台的一代機不需要四張證照是 |
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二代機的訓練費用一台是一千萬所以晚上跟主委報告就是說你們在估價在尋價的過程中這個費用到底是有什麼特殊的技術跟技巧跟委員報告因為我們這個二代機的規格比較高所以我們除了還訓練考照還會接裝訓練 |
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那還要送到國外去做訓練所以這個訓練都是涵蓋在我們買飛機裡面那我們一般的估價會認為我們一般在民間在估這個買這個無人機都是用裸機的部分來算但是我們這一個我們所有我們買的飛機是包括所有全售期的包括後續的維保保固包括保險都包含在裡面 |
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沒關係主委副主委你們會後可以再把詳細的資料提供給北京那最後一個問題最後一個問題其實我要跟就是跟各位報告其實我們都支持海委會的預算可是我們覺得海委會預算編列其實相當有問題其實在114年的時候主委你知不知道我們海巡署編列預算大概是多少金額多少錢嗎我們通過的預算金額多少錢請問有人知道嗎300多億吧海巡 光海巡的話 |
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去年度是不是對你們原本編列是多少錢的經費是280億的經費對但是因為我們後來有對然後我們後來我們租家預算通過的經費你們知道是多少錢嗎 |
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追加預算跟預備金之後我們已經超過300億我印象中通過的經費其實我們立法院最後給你們的經費是295億元所以我要跟你們報告的是其實我們已經通過預算法的規定了你們事實上實際可以使用的經費是比你原本編列的數字還要高你們原本編列才280億左右的預算 |
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511.423 |
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537.189 |
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所以說追加預算通過的預算是295億的預算是高過你們編譯的預算那是因為我們有動用第二預備金才是這樣還有人事費突然之間到年中不是很高薪已經給你們295億的預算你們還跟行政院再追加了一點多億的預算委員調薪的預算吃了很大一筆數字所以本席要跟你們講的是我們都支持你們的預算 |
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539.97 |
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563.989 |
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是從4月突然調薪的 均值的調薪那筆預算應該是8千多萬嗎就是已經你們原本編的預算立法院後來追加跟你們預算已經超過你們原本編的預算你們還要再跟行政院追加了將近快2億的預算最後總數那本席想要提的意見就是就是說希望啊 |
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564.71 |
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590.612 |
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就是說你們現在重點海巡最重要就是軟體跟硬體的實力我覺得應該要增強其實海巡目前來講還差了大概1300多名的人員的缺額還有非常多老舊的建物即將還等待要補強那本席的意見就是說立法院通過這麼多的預算給你們那我想要請教你們到底還缺多少預算 |
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591.277 |
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619.249 |
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光是廳舍分兩筆一筆是需要興建一筆是維修基本上預算數如果超過原本你們預計編的預算數我們需要中長期計畫如果海巡署還缺錢超過一百億喔委員你們還缺一百億你們缺額還缺一百億不是缺額光廳舍的興建我們需要一個中長期計畫委員我們很希望說大家能夠來考察 |
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我們那個第一線的弟兄 他們的環境真的令人心疼不捨 光是新建預算就還需要一段時間那最後我要再請教主委 我還是要幫基層的弟兄來起命我們軍職的海巡的部隊加急 |
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還有緊直的勤務加擠以及查緝隊的危險加擠我們計畫都做好了已經都送上去了嗎19項今年會不會調整我們現在開過了最後一次檢討會議以後我們方案做好就會往上溝通協調就會跨部會溝通協調那我們大概會動了18、19項 |
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667.779 |
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大概會動了19項那預計會通過的 你有沒有預計哪一些加級會通過我說了A就會傷了B的心我們希望全部都通過我們一定盡全力好 謝謝大家 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-29T09:45:45.748000+08:00 |
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謝謝主席。 |
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1 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-29T09:45:46.028000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:45:48.552000+08:00 |
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各位委員、各位官員，大家早，有請管碧玲主委。 |
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1 |
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管主任委員碧玲 |
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2026-04-29T09:45:48.552000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-29T09:45:56.553000+08:00 |
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張委員好。 |
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0 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-29T09:45:56.753000+08:00 |
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主委好。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2026-04-29T09:45:57.294000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:46:01.158000+08:00 |
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今天是審查海委會、海巡署等相關單位的預算。 |
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0.842 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-29T09:46:02.479000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:46:06.904000+08:00 |
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首先，我要先謝謝主委，我們都支持海巡、海委會相關的預算。 |
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1 |
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管主任委員碧玲 |
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2026-04-29T09:46:07.545000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:46:13.531000+08:00 |
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謝謝委員，我也非常支持，我必須公開、鄭重的感謝委員。 |
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0.955 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-29T09:46:13.651000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:46:17.095000+08:00 |
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可是身為立法委員，我們還是要好好監督你們，看緊人民的荷包跟納稅錢。是。 |
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0.71 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-29T09:46:18.496000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:46:38.221000+08:00 |
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首先，我要請教主委有關無人機的問題，當然現在海巡署為了因應臺海情勢升高跟進行救災、緝毒等作業，無人機是我國海巡署一個非常重要的業務。是。 |
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0.855 |
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張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-04-29T09:46:38.221000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:47:08.805000+08:00 |
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可是我們看到海巡署從107年開始購買無人機，我們知道那時候是第一代無人機，我們都是編公務預算來買，當時買了20架，主委可以看一下螢幕上寫的經費，一臺無人機的單價大概是450萬元，我們從今年開始買了新的第二代無人機，本席很關心我們購買第二代無人機的價格是多少錢，我們看到無人機的價格暴漲了將近快要4倍，金額是一千六百多萬，將近1,700萬。 |
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0.759 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-29T09:47:14.972000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:47:28.841000+08:00 |
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當然我們支持海委會做任何應該做的業務，可是一般民眾會疑惑一代機跟二代機的價格為什麼差那麼多，是因為性能有差異還是什麼原因？ |
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0.845 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-29T09:47:29.142000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:47:31.263000+08:00 |
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是不是可以請主委說明一下？ |
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0.917 |
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管主任委員碧玲 |
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2026-04-29T09:47:31.423000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:47:51.621000+08:00 |
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謝謝委員的垂詢，委員已經長期持續關心這個課題，我們了解委員非常關心我們到底有沒有買貴，我也跟委員報告，我對海巡的無人機主要管兩件事情，第一件事情是功能部署對不對、功能部署要達到什麼樣的效能？ |
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0.875 |
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管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-04-29T09:47:52.562000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:48:01.591000+08:00 |
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對這個我會掌控；另外就是絕對不能買貴，然後因為有紅色供應鏈的問題，所以要基於國安，還有要買最新、最好的。 |
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0.913 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-04-29T09:48:01.871000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:48:05.512000+08:00 |
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我大概就是做這幾個指示，至於細節的部分，我是不是請署長來說明？ |
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0.607 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-29T09:48:07.773000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:48:23.917000+08:00 |
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本席都支持主委的想法，可是對現在所有第一線操作的人員來講，一代機的價格才450萬，二代機居然高達一千六百多萬，就像主委講的，是性能有什麼差異還是它可以改成軍用的？ |
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0.847 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-29T09:48:24.057000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:48:24.797000+08:00 |
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未來要改成軍用嗎？ |
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1 |
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管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-04-29T09:48:26.159000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:48:29.021000+08:00 |
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我們都是軍用、商規，我請署長說明。 |
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0.5 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-29T09:48:29.442000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:48:44.252000+08:00 |
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好，其實本席手上有這兩代無人機性能的資料，可是我看不出性能到底差在哪裡，可不可以簡單說明一下？ |
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0.512 |
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張副主任委員忠龍 |
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2026-04-29T09:48:45.353000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:48:53.160000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，現在我們海巡無人機主要是著重在偵搜的功能，所以它的性能大幅提升，跟第一代機不一樣。 |
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0.628 |
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張副主任委員忠龍 |
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2026-04-29T09:48:53.160000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:49:04.609000+08:00 |
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另外，第一代機的報價是在民國105年的報價，我們現在的報價跟將近10年前的報價相比，不管是物調，不管是它的功能、規格，包括…… |
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0.8 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-29T09:49:05.449000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:49:07.151000+08:00 |
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請明確講出兩者功能的差異在哪裡。 |
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0.733 |
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張副主任委員忠龍 |
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2026-04-29T09:49:09.651000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:49:17.913000+08:00 |
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第一個部分就是它的偵搜功能不一樣，它的導控不一樣、距離不一樣、高度不一樣，然後它後面的訓練也不一樣。 |
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0.889 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-29T09:49:17.913000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:49:23.875000+08:00 |
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沒錯，就像我們用的第一代iPhone手機跟iPhone 10不一樣，可是價錢也不會差到四、五倍。 |
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0.829 |
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張副主任委員忠龍 |
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2026-04-29T09:49:24.535000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:49:27.316000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，我舉…… |
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1 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-29T09:49:27.316000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-29T09:49:28.316000+08:00 |
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沒關係。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
張副主任委員忠龍 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-29T09:49:27.316000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:49:33.897000+08:00 |
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請給我10秒鐘，我要講的就是說，就像媒體所報導的，我們現在要買的MQ-9B是高空無人機…… |
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0.75 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-29T09:49:33.897000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:49:35.878000+08:00 |
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是因為未來跟軍用的相關聯所以才會這麼貴嗎？ |
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0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
張副主任委員忠龍 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-29T09:49:37.858000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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2026-04-29T09:49:40.720000+08:00 |
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我們這一款是軍規的、是商用。 |
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0.833 |
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張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-29T09:49:41.641000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:49:42.901000+08:00 |
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所以未來在軍事作戰中可以使用？ |
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0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
張副主任委員忠龍 |
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2026-04-29T09:49:43.442000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:49:47.204000+08:00 |
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可以使用，但是我們的功能主要是在偵搜的部分。 |
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0.85 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-29T09:49:47.564000+08:00 |
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2026-04-29T09:49:54.988000+08:00 |
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好，第一個，其實我們都支持海巡、海委會的預算，可是希望未來在採買的時候要注意單價的部分。 |
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0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-29T09:49:55.829000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-04-29T09:50:12.779000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
其實本席現在對於採買金額感到最困擾的，就是在預算編列的時候我們沒有辦法詢問相關內容，我們都不知道細節，等到決標以後，金額相差那麼多，可是我們看到功能好像也沒有那麼大的差異，這是第一個問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.782 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-29T09:50:12.779000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-29T09:50:13.779000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
我先更正一個口誤…… |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-29T09:50:12.919000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-29T09:50:40.677000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
第二個問題，我想要請教訓練費的部分，我發現我們二代機訓練費的總金額大於一代機非常多，平均一臺二代無人機的訓練單價將近要1,000萬，比一代機的訓練單價高出許多，總金額很高，只訓練6臺二代無人機，可是比20臺一代無人機的訓練金額增加67倍。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-29T09:50:41.397000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-29T09:50:46.118000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
我的意思就是說一代機跟二代機的訓練會差那麼多嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-29T09:50:46.298000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-29T09:50:58.342000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
本席想要建議我們的無人機應該採用在地化，至於訓練的話，不管一代機或二代機，應該訓練出種子教官，我認為訓練費的金額有點太高，是不是可以解釋一下？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.877 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
張副主任委員忠龍 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-29T09:51:00.243000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-29T09:51:14.151000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
跟委員報告，現在所有的公務機關飛無人機一定要考照，我們這一款無人機是VTOL，也就是同時具備旋翼和定翼機的機能，所以他要考到4張證照。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.885 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
張副主任委員忠龍 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-29T09:51:14.872000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-29T09:51:31.104000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
跟委員報告，我們有一個數據，我們之前送去訓練的人員要考到4張證照，因為還有包括時數，所以一個人大概要受訓4到5個月，每一個人的費用將近50萬，光是訓練費用而已。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
張副主任委員忠龍 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-29T09:51:31.865000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-04-29T09:51:35.873000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
這個部分跟委員報告，因為每一個人都要取得證照才可以去飛無人機。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-29T09:51:38.002000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-04-29T09:51:47.427000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
本席想要了解的是，是不是有什麼特殊的操作技巧，還是有特殊的偵搜技術，還是你們應該要飛到美國去受訓？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-29T09:51:47.427000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-04-29T09:51:48.427000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
它確實比較高規格。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-29T09:51:47.427000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-04-29T09:51:52.690000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
所以本席想了解的是，為什麼訓練經費算下來，一臺平均單價要1,000萬？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.643 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-29T09:51:52.690000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-04-29T09:51:55.631000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
這個跟一般民眾的認知差異很大。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-29T09:51:55.651000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-29T09:51:56.712000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
因為我們有到軍規的程度。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.545 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-29T09:51:57.272000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-04-29T09:51:57.712000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
你們有進行軍事相關的訓練嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-29T09:52:04.215000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-04-29T09:52:14.041000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
過去一代機的時候沒有含訓練費用在裡面，取證費用也沒有在裡面，但是現在都已經要求要在裡面了。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-29T09:52:14.981000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-04-29T09:52:16.883000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
剛剛有跟委員報告，要考取4張證照才能夠…… |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.647 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-29T09:52:17.123000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-04-29T09:52:24.747000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
以前一代機的時候其實有訓練費用，一臺的訓練費用大概是4萬9,000塊，二代機的訓練費用，我們剛剛簡單算起來，一臺的…… |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.979 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-04-29T09:52:25.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-04-29T09:52:26.388000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
一代機不需要4張證照。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-04-29T09:52:27.969000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-04-29T09:52:37.180000+08:00 |
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二代機的訓練費用一臺是1,000萬，所以我還是要跟主委報告，你們在估價、詢價的過程中，這個費用到底是有什麼特殊的技術跟技巧？ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.887 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
張副主任委員忠龍 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-04-29T09:52:37.701000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-04-29T09:52:50.132000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
跟委員報告，二代機的規格比較高，除了含訓練、考照以外，還要接裝訓練，還要送到國外訓練，這個訓練都是涵蓋在我們買的飛機裡面。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.907 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
張副主任委員忠龍 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-04-29T09:52:50.992000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-04-29T09:53:07.620000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
一般民間在估價無人機的部分都是用裸機來算，但是我們買的飛機是全壽期的，包括後續的維保、保固，包括保險都包含在裡面。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.904 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-04-29T09:53:09.821000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-04-29T09:53:12.502000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
時間的關係，主委、副主委，你們會後可以再把詳細的資料提供給本席。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.793 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-04-29T09:53:13.122000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-04-29T09:53:24.005000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
最後一個問題，我要跟各位報告，其實我們都支持海委會的預算，可是我們覺得海委會的預算編列相當有問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.978 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-04-29T09:53:25.486000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-04-29T09:53:29.427000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
主委，你知不知道114年度海巡署編列的預算大概是多少金額？ |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-04-29T09:53:29.907000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-04-29T09:53:31.227000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
我們通過的預算金額多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-04-29T09:53:31.848000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-04-29T09:53:33.548000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
請問有人知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-04-29T09:53:33.548000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-04-29T09:53:33.908000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
三百多億…… |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-04-29T09:53:35.389000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-04-29T09:53:35.729000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
光海巡。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-04-29T09:53:37.102000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-04-29T09:53:38.104000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
去年度是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-04-29T09:53:38.544000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-04-29T09:53:39.786000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
對，你們原本編列的是多少經費？ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-04-29T09:53:39.786000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-04-29T09:53:39.986000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
是280億的經費。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-04-29T09:53:39.986000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-04-29T09:53:40.847000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
對，但是因為我們後來有動用第二預備金。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.588 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-04-29T09:53:41.588000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-04-29T09:53:43.831000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
後來追加預算通過的經費，你們知道是多少錢嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-04-29T09:53:50.069000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-04-29T09:53:55.772000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
追加預算跟預備金之後，我們已經超過300億，我印象中…… |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-04-29T09:53:55.993000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-04-29T09:54:19.904000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
你們通過的經費，其實立法院最後給你們的經費是295億元，所以我要跟你們報告的是，其實你們已經通過預算法的規定了，你們實際可以使用的經費比你原本編列的數字還要高，你們原本才編列280億左右的預算，最後加上追加預算，你們通過預算是295億，高過你們編列的預算。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-04-29T09:54:19.904000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-04-29T09:54:21.185000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
本席的意思是…… |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-04-29T09:54:21.185000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-04-29T09:54:29.526000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
那是因為我們有動用第二預備金才會這樣，還有人事費突然之間到年終的時候調薪。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.829 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-04-29T09:54:29.826000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-04-29T09:54:33.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
主委，你要搞清楚，已經給你們295億的預算，你們還跟行政院再追加了一點多億的預算。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.794 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-04-29T09:54:33.767000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-04-29T09:54:37.148000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
委員，調薪的預算吃了很大一筆數字，我記得是從4月開始調薪…… |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-04-29T09:54:37.528000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-04-29T09:54:40.169000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
所以本席要跟你們講的是，我們都支持你們的預算，可是…… |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.913 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-04-29T09:54:42.970000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-04-29T09:54:50.096000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
因為是從4月突然調薪的，軍職調薪的那一筆預算應該是八千多萬。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.741 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-04-29T09:54:50.856000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-04-29T09:55:00.684000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
你們原本編列的預算，再加上立法院後來追加給你們預算，已經超過你們原本編列的預算，你們還要再跟行政院追加將近快2億的預算。 |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.891 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-04-29T09:55:01.165000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-04-29T09:55:02.206000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
最後總數…… |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-04-29T09:55:02.666000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-04-29T09:55:25.665000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
本席想要提的意見是，海巡現在最重要的就是軟體和硬體的實力，我覺得應該要增強，目前來講，海巡還有大概一千三百多名人員的缺額，還有非常多的老舊建物等待補強。 |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.829 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-04-29T09:55:25.865000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-04-29T09:55:33.592000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
本席的意見是，立法院通過這麼多的預算給你們，我想要請教你們到底還缺多少預算？ |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-04-29T09:55:34.277000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-04-29T09:55:39.899000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
光是廳舍分兩筆，一筆是需要興建，一筆是維修，如果不算維修…… |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.76 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-04-29T09:55:40.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-04-29T09:55:43.981000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
基本上，預算數已經超過原本預計編列的預算數，如果海巡署還缺錢…… |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.607 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-04-29T09:55:43.981000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-04-29T09:55:49.383000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
我們需要中長期計畫，光是新增就超過100億。委員…… |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.737 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-04-29T09:55:49.383000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-04-29T09:55:52.385000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
你們還缺100億，你們的缺額還缺100億？ |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-04-29T09:55:52.385000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-04-29T09:55:58.027000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
不是缺額，光是廳舍的興建，我們需要一個中長期計畫。 |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-04-29T09:55:58.027000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-04-29T09:56:07.311000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
委員，我們很希望大家能夠來考察，我們第一線弟兄的環境真的令人心疼、不捨…… |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-04-29T09:56:07.311000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-04-29T09:56:08.311000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
沒錯，我的意思是你們的預算比編列的預算數還要高，所以我希望預算好好使用。 |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-04-29T09:56:07.311000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-04-29T09:56:08.772000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
光是新增的、興建預算就還需要100億。 |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-04-29T09:56:09.872000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-04-29T09:56:29.463000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
最後，我要再請教主委，我還是要幫基層弟兄請命，軍職的海巡部隊加給，還有警職的勤務加給，以及查緝隊的危險加給…… |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-04-29T09:56:29.723000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-04-29T09:56:30.744000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
我們計畫都做好了。 |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-04-29T09:56:31.004000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-04-29T09:56:32.866000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
已經送上去了嗎？有19項。 |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-04-29T09:56:32.866000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-04-29T09:56:34.187000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
今年會不會調整？ |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-04-29T09:56:34.888000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-04-29T09:56:44.316000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
我們開過最後一次檢討會議以後，方案做好就會往上溝通協調，就會跨部會溝通協調，我們大概動了19項。 |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-04-29T09:56:53.341000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-04-29T09:56:57.364000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
你有沒有預計哪一些加給會通過？ |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
管主任委員碧玲 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-04-29T09:56:57.364000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-04-29T09:57:03.049000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
我說了A就會傷了B的心，我們希望全部都通過，我們一定盡全力。 |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-04-29T09:57:03.049000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-04-29T09:57:04.110000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
好，主委加油！ |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0.2 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-04-29T09:57:04.110000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2026-04-29T09:57:04.190000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
謝謝大家。 |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-04-29T09:57:04.690000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-04-29T09:57:14.975714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
謝謝張智倫委員，非常專業，請海委會等一下也好好準備，我們等一下就要進行預算審查。 |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-04-29T09:57:15.275714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-04-29T09:57:17.847143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
接下來請廖先翔召委。 |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0 |