iVOD / 168926

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IVOD_ID 168926
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168926
日期 2026-04-29
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-5-19-11
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 5
會議資料.會次 11
會議資料.種類 委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] 19
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 經濟委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-04-29T11:08:17+08:00
結束時間 2026-04-29T11:19:26+08:00
影片長度 00:11:09
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
支援功能[1] gazette
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委員名稱 邱志偉
委員發言時間 11:08:17 - 11:19:26
會議時間 2026-04-29T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議(事由:一、 審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於農業部及所屬單位預算部分。 二、 審查115年度中央政府總預算案有關第27款直轄市及縣市政府第7項一般性補助款—農業部主管第1目農業部、第2目林業及自然保育署及所屬、第3目農村發展及水土保持署及所屬、第4目漁業署及所屬、第5目動植物防疫檢疫署及所屬、第6目農糧署及所屬、第7目農田水利署部分預算。 三、 審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於農業部主管:農業作業基金、農田水利事業作業基金、農業特別收入基金及農民退休基金。(詢答) 【4月29日及4月30日二天一次會】)
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 好 接下來我們請這個邱志偉委員質詢好 謝謝主席是不是請農業部陳部長請農業部陳部長漁業署署長漁業署
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 好 今天是預算尋答 針對預算的部分你們所提出的報告請教農業部相關的問題從第十一十二頁開始有相關的報表依法律義務支出有總共有十一個私人項目其中第九項 漁業用油補貼每年大概是十七十八億左右 對不對對 當年十八億那法律依據是什麼樣
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 我們在漁業法裡面有一個相關的規範它是針對近海漁業的用油補貼嘛它有法律依據所以每年必須要編列除了近海漁業之外養殖漁業有沒有相關的補貼譬如說不見得是用油養殖漁業現在是沒有有可能是用電漁業中不管養殖漁業或近海漁業都非常重要
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 我們協助近海漁業能夠發展所以我們用漁有補貼養殖漁業也要協助因為的確面臨到很大的所謂經營上的風險養殖的部分我們是著重在用電所以用電是不是要補貼對 養殖漁業有有沒有編列預算有編列預算 14億是法定預算嗎它沒有法律預計 但是是產業支持措施
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 我認為你應該比照進來一月一月用於補貼你把這個養殖一月的用電補貼也要法制化
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 我跟委員報告養殖用電跟其實農業動力用電是一樣的它是在相關的規範裡面我們每一年都會去補助我認為我已經要提高到漁業法了你們去研究一下不能沒有照顧照顧這個近海漁業固然是我們的責任養殖業也不能不照顧啊所以我希望說你考慮從漁業法去修訂把它這個所謂養殖漁業用電補貼
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 能夠在漁業法如果在漁業法能夠明列讓漁民更寬心的時候我們願意這樣做來做這樣的一個修正另外這個表二公共建設支出你們總共有17項我發現到幾項養殖漁業振興計畫今年只編了500萬去年5.54億是什麼樣的狀況
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 什麼樣的狀況這個過去我們現在都把它切到一般性的補助款那邊去那因為有一些養殖漁業的部分那在因為裁判法的關係是切到地方政府去做那如果有地方政府用專案那相對的我們會來因為漁港的部分地方政府用專案比如說高雄市的對用專案的方式我們就會來處理屏東縣專案已經核定了嘛對不對那高雄市的專案還沒有核定啊
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 跟委員報告海洋渠現在在統籌他一直還沒送上所以你現在如果有個公共建設支出你不可能說從五億一下子變成這個五百萬嘛未來如果一一六年度你們對養殖醫學政經計畫年代變多少錢
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 還是一樣五百萬啊 那這個計畫就沒有了嘛各位委員包括因為養殖振興裡面很大一塊就是養殖的生產區的建設管理這一塊嘛你重新檢討這項計畫啦齁雖然財政收收方法有做一些相關的分工但是你既然有這項計畫你就要編列足夠的預算嘛
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 你不能說這個去年還有五點五十億今年兩十一月你從這個書帳面上來看你會覺得很為什麼差異那麼大所以我希望說整個計畫你們去做一些調整我們會再去爭取特別是有一些比較大型的建設我們用專案的方式去處理
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 不管是這個比較主要的養殖業區比如說在高雄、屏東、台南如果有專案計畫我們希望說能夠有專案計畫用專案計畫方式來處理另外第十四項拓展動物收容能量及場域優化竟然預算歸零這是什麼樣的狀況呢
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 這個部分也是我們的地方收容是屬於地方業務那因為柴化法裡面的一般主部有沒有但是同樣的因為動物收容也有全國的跨區的業務所以我們都會用專業的方式來處理部長我提醒你這樣如果預算歸零的話你這項就沒有這項計畫了嘛
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 你的計畫就可以取消了啊是不是沒有 他變成一般性的補助款在裡面但是我們如果說中央對地方共同要去努力的部分我們就用專案計畫去處理我們現在是用這樣的方式來處理所以對於整個的那你用專案計畫你是編多少錢沒有 1.43億
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 1.43億比上去年也少了很多所以你計劃該做調整就做調整我沒有很難想像你的預算計算重大的公共建設你們是歸零的這個你們去做一些調整好嗎另外石斑魚我做一些建議石斑魚產銷失衡跟價格倒掛
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 還有需要更多大型的人鏈轉型跟多元市場去開拓現在整個產業石斑產業碰到的困境就是外銷的問題跟產能的基礙我想這個署長很清楚另外你價格倒掛問題也很嚴重應該是很嚴重上游產業鏈信心不夠國際貿易的風險因為我們的市場太集中
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 所以我建議你要怎麼樣把活魚供應轉向多元加工這是一個解決方案另外你有立即性的即時即刻的產能調控跟庫存的去化的機制然後你要把落實燈路廠的制度跟高品質的品牌化要把它打出來這也是一個重點
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 另外你要把這個外銷風險做一些分散不要集中在這個中國跟香港非中市場特別日本是韓國也可以努力所以我這四項建議我希望你把這四項建議加上目前的困境你們一個月提出改善計畫可以嗎可以我想謝偉偉的建議我只講一點就是說
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 有關於調控的部分我們希望建立一個類似農糧的滾動式倉儲的方式而不是說等價格低了才進場去做處理我用一個常態的滾動式倉儲的方式就能夠讓價格比較穩定這是只是其中一個說明後續我想會針對是四項建議所以我提出的這個四項建議是不是都很具體我覺得都非常具體我們會有一個更完善的一個規劃來跟我們報告所以我發現了這個18年產業困境也是事實嘛是
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 所以一個月之內 針對困境你提出的這些方案 解決方案能夠提出來然後具體去落實好 了解 謝謝委員另外你說的這個所謂公共建設支出部分這個漁業永續進行建設發展
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 這個部分預算是去年是有14.53億今年剩下這個11.4億這個牽涉到整個漁港建設漁港建設牽涉到這個財化法這我也理解所以第二類漁港高雄市非常多
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 所以你只能把它變成一些一般性補助款一般性補助款 你看一下你預算書第15頁
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 因為專業性補助款你現在總共才多少26.37總共26.37然後其中漁業的部分就9億了對雖然是9億但是還是不夠跟之前財發法沒有修正制定還是不夠所以地方政府還是有限情況之下你過去需要中央政府補助的
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transcript.whisperx[23].text 相對應的財源所以很多第二類漁港的建設就停擺了所以我希望說我的問題是說這個漁港基礎建設牽涉到漁業發展也牽涉到漁民作業的生命財產安全所以高中市政府有27項針對二類漁港的這個工程跟這個漁業所申請但只是得到一般性補助才5000多萬而已
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transcript.whisperx[24].text 五千多萬而已 五千多萬而已那麼多第二類漁港光是本席的選區就有12項的計畫那這個部分要怎麼處理呢我希望說用你們之前所提到的用高雄市漁港建設的專案計畫提報到這個所謂行政院用這個部分來補貼過去用一般性補助款部署的地方我想謝謝委員
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transcript.whisperx[25].text 因為現在因為惡劣漁港是地方政府的權責但是我們又擔心地方政府經費不夠的時候有沒有我們的補助比例下降的時候他也沒辦法去做所以我們有另外一個配套就是說我們會提特專案的計畫去爭取相關的經費來做額外的支持
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transcript.whisperx[26].text 所以這個部分這個漁業發展這個對於高雄市自觀中央特別對我選區我有這個人把我選區所有惡劣漁港把它建設好確保漁民的作業安全所以啊高雄市政府跟屏東縣政府同樣都有漁港建設專案計畫對不對是屏東好像比較快一點
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transcript.whisperx[27].text 他走得比較快高雄市因為他的可能各項的漁港性質比較比屏東縣還多這部分我拜託署長是不是能夠跟高雄市海洋局跟相同的單位有一個聯繫的匯報跟窗口那我也來跟你們一起來努力
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transcript.whisperx[28].text 好 可以 我們可以啟動一個就是專案的聯繫的窗口然後看看說那些計畫裡面該怎麼去掩提 該怎麼去設計這個黃色的項目全部都是我的選區這個我選區我每天都去看大家都跟我反映我當然也沒有 我有這個責任把這些漁港經費整理下來確保我選區漁民作業安全但是錢沒有到位 這個永遠沒辦法執行
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transcript.whisperx[29].text 所以我拜託這個是不是就署長您親自帶隊或指派一個副署長跟高雄市政府還要去對接把這個專案計畫趕快用最快速度最好的效力把它報佈合併之後這些惡劣漁港建設經費才有著落
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transcript.whisperx[30].text 好 委員絕對沒問題我們會跟海洋局局長來密切的來聯繫這個時間是我指定的6加2雖然我對其他委員很放鬆但是我要言語律己適應到了我就必須所以有很多議題啦做主席一定要言語律己我可以給你啦多一點這不能轉讓好 我們謝謝邱志偉委員
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transcript.gazette[0].text 謝謝主席,請農業部陳部長、漁業署署長。
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transcript.gazette[1].text 請農業部陳部長、漁業署署長。
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transcript.gazette[2].end 2026-04-29T11:08:55.672000+08:00
transcript.gazette[2].text 今天是預算質詢,針對預算部分你們提出的報告,我請教農業部相關的問題。
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transcript.gazette[3].text 從第11、12頁開始有相關的附表,依法律義務支出總共有11個項目,其中第9項漁業用油補貼每年大概17、18億元左右,對不對?
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transcript.gazette[4].text 對,將近18億元。
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transcript.gazette[5].text 法律依據是什麼?
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transcript.gazette[6].text 我們在漁業法裡面有相關的規範。
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transcript.gazette[7].text 它是針對近海漁業的用油補貼,它有法律依據,每年必須編列。
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transcript.gazette[8].text 除了近海漁業之外,養殖漁業有沒有相關的補貼?
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transcript.gazette[9].text 不見得是用油,有可能是其他種類,有可能是用電。
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transcript.gazette[10].speaker 陳部長駿季
transcript.gazette[10].start 2026-04-29T11:09:33.577000+08:00
transcript.gazette[10].guessed
transcript.gazette[10].end 2026-04-29T11:09:34.618000+08:00
transcript.gazette[10].text 養殖漁業現在沒有。
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transcript.gazette[11].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[11].start 2026-04-29T11:09:37.259000+08:00
transcript.gazette[11].guessed
transcript.gazette[11].end 2026-04-29T11:09:44.062000+08:00
transcript.gazette[11].text 不管養殖漁業或近海漁業都非常重要,我們協助近海漁業能夠發展,所以我們有用油補貼。
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transcript.gazette[12].start 2026-04-29T11:09:44.062000+08:00
transcript.gazette[12].guessed
transcript.gazette[12].end 2026-04-29T11:09:50.304000+08:00
transcript.gazette[12].text 養殖漁業也要協助,因為的確面臨很大的經營風險。
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transcript.gazette[13].speaker 陳部長駿季
transcript.gazette[13].start 2026-04-29T11:09:50.304000+08:00
transcript.gazette[13].guessed
transcript.gazette[13].end 2026-04-29T11:09:51.945000+08:00
transcript.gazette[13].text 養殖漁業我們著重在用電。
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transcript.gazette[14].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[14].start 2026-04-29T11:09:52.645000+08:00
transcript.gazette[14].guessed
transcript.gazette[14].end 2026-04-29T11:09:54.726000+08:00
transcript.gazette[14].text 用電是不是要補貼?
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transcript.gazette[15].speaker 陳部長駿季
transcript.gazette[15].start 2026-04-29T11:09:54.726000+08:00
transcript.gazette[15].guessed
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transcript.gazette[15].text 對,養殖漁業有。
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transcript.gazette[16].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[16].start 2026-04-29T11:09:55.086000+08:00
transcript.gazette[16].guessed
transcript.gazette[16].end 2026-04-29T11:09:56.587000+08:00
transcript.gazette[16].text 有沒有編列預算?
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transcript.gazette[17].speaker 陳部長駿季
transcript.gazette[17].start 2026-04-29T11:09:57.067000+08:00
transcript.gazette[17].guessed
transcript.gazette[17].end 2026-04-29T11:09:58.708000+08:00
transcript.gazette[17].text 有編列14億元。
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transcript.gazette[18].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[18].start 2026-04-29T11:09:58.708000+08:00
transcript.gazette[18].guessed
transcript.gazette[18].end 2026-04-29T11:10:00.909000+08:00
transcript.gazette[18].text 是法定預算嗎?
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transcript.gazette[19].speaker 王署長茂城
transcript.gazette[19].start 2026-04-29T11:10:00.909000+08:00
transcript.gazette[19].guessed
transcript.gazette[19].end 2026-04-29T11:10:03.790000+08:00
transcript.gazette[19].text 它沒有法律依據,但是是產業支持措施。
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transcript.gazette[20].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[20].start 2026-04-29T11:10:04.764000+08:00
transcript.gazette[20].guessed
transcript.gazette[20].end 2026-04-29T11:10:12.040000+08:00
transcript.gazette[20].text 我認為應該比照近海漁業用油補貼,養殖漁業的用電補貼你也要法制化。
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transcript.gazette[21].start 2026-04-29T11:10:13.720000+08:00
transcript.gazette[21].guessed
transcript.gazette[21].end 2026-04-29T11:10:21.962000+08:00
transcript.gazette[21].text 我跟委員報告,養殖用電和農業動力用電是一樣的,它是在相關的規範裡面,我們每一年都會補助。
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transcript.gazette[22].start 2026-04-29T11:10:22.362000+08:00
transcript.gazette[22].guessed
transcript.gazette[22].end 2026-04-29T11:10:24.042000+08:00
transcript.gazette[22].text 我認為位階提高到漁業法,好不好?
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transcript.gazette[23].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[23].start 2026-04-29T11:10:25.102000+08:00
transcript.gazette[23].guessed
transcript.gazette[23].end 2026-04-29T11:10:26.143000+08:00
transcript.gazette[23].text 你們去研究一下。好。
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transcript.gazette[24].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[24].start 2026-04-29T11:10:28.583000+08:00
transcript.gazette[24].guessed
transcript.gazette[24].end 2026-04-29T11:10:34.464000+08:00
transcript.gazette[24].text 照顧近海漁業固然是我們的責任,養殖漁業也不能不照顧啊!
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transcript.gazette[25].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[25].start 2026-04-29T11:10:35.664000+08:00
transcript.gazette[25].guessed
transcript.gazette[25].end 2026-04-29T11:10:44.447000+08:00
transcript.gazette[25].text 所以我希望你考慮從漁業法修訂,把養殖漁業用電補貼規定在漁業法中。
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transcript.gazette[26].start 2026-04-29T11:10:45.068000+08:00
transcript.gazette[26].guessed
transcript.gazette[26].end 2026-04-29T11:10:50.993000+08:00
transcript.gazette[26].text 如果在漁業法能夠明列,讓漁民更寬心的話,我們願意做這樣的修正。
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transcript.gazette[27].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[27].start 2026-04-29T11:10:51.153000+08:00
transcript.gazette[27].guessed
transcript.gazette[27].end 2026-04-29T11:10:58.019000+08:00
transcript.gazette[27].text 另外,表2公共建設支出,你們總共有17項,我發現到幾項,養殖漁業振興計畫今年只編了500萬元,去年是5.54億元,是什麼狀況?
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transcript.gazette[28].start 2026-04-29T11:11:09.083000+08:00
transcript.gazette[28].guessed
transcript.gazette[28].end 2026-04-29T11:11:18.731000+08:00
transcript.gazette[28].text 我們現在都把它切到一般性補助款,有一些養殖漁業的補助,因為財劃法的關係,切到地方政府去做。
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transcript.gazette[29].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[29].start 2026-04-29T11:11:18.851000+08:00
transcript.gazette[29].guessed
transcript.gazette[29].end 2026-04-29T11:11:19.952000+08:00
transcript.gazette[29].text 如果地方政府用專案呢?
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transcript.gazette[30].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[30].start 2026-04-29T11:11:24.516000+08:00
transcript.gazette[30].guessed
transcript.gazette[30].end 2026-04-29T11:11:25.497000+08:00
transcript.gazette[30].text 例如高雄市的方式。
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transcript.gazette[31].speaker 陳部長駿季
transcript.gazette[31].start 2026-04-29T11:11:25.657000+08:00
transcript.gazette[31].guessed
transcript.gazette[31].end 2026-04-29T11:11:27.338000+08:00
transcript.gazette[31].text 用專案的方式,我們就會來處理。
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transcript.gazette[32].start 2026-04-29T11:11:27.438000+08:00
transcript.gazette[32].guessed
transcript.gazette[32].end 2026-04-29T11:11:29.360000+08:00
transcript.gazette[32].text 屏東縣的專案已經核定了,對不對?對。
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transcript.gazette[33].speaker 邱委員志偉
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transcript.gazette[33].guessed
transcript.gazette[33].end 2026-04-29T11:11:31.321000+08:00
transcript.gazette[33].text 高雄市的專案還沒核定。
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transcript.gazette[34].speaker 王署長茂城
transcript.gazette[34].start 2026-04-29T11:11:32.755000+08:00
transcript.gazette[34].guessed
transcript.gazette[34].end 2026-04-29T11:11:36.040000+08:00
transcript.gazette[34].text 跟委員報告,海洋局現在在統籌,它一直還沒送上來。
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transcript.gazette[35].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[35].start 2026-04-29T11:11:37.161000+08:00
transcript.gazette[35].guessed
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transcript.gazette[35].text 我知道,如果有公共建設支出,你不可能從5億元一下子變成500萬元嘛!
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transcript.gazette[36].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[36].start 2026-04-29T11:11:42.729000+08:00
transcript.gazette[36].guessed
transcript.gazette[36].end 2026-04-29T11:11:45.774000+08:00
transcript.gazette[36].text 未來你們116年養殖漁業振興計畫要編多少錢?
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transcript.gazette[37].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[37].start 2026-04-29T11:11:47.895000+08:00
transcript.gazette[37].guessed
transcript.gazette[37].end 2026-04-29T11:11:48.336000+08:00
transcript.gazette[37].text 還是一樣500萬元嗎?
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transcript.gazette[38].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[38].start 2026-04-29T11:11:48.856000+08:00
transcript.gazette[38].guessed
transcript.gazette[38].end 2026-04-29T11:11:49.958000+08:00
transcript.gazette[38].text 那這個計畫就沒有了嘛!
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transcript.gazette[39].speaker 王署長茂城
transcript.gazette[39].start 2026-04-29T11:11:51.339000+08:00
transcript.gazette[39].guessed
transcript.gazette[39].end 2026-04-29T11:11:56.765000+08:00
transcript.gazette[39].text 因為養殖振興裡面很大一塊就是養殖的生產區建設管理。
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transcript.gazette[40].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[40].start 2026-04-29T11:11:57.867000+08:00
transcript.gazette[40].guessed
transcript.gazette[40].end 2026-04-29T11:12:15.834000+08:00
transcript.gazette[40].text 你重新檢討這一項計畫,雖然財政收支劃分法有做一些相關的分工,但是你既然有這樣的計畫,就要編列足夠的預算,不能說去年還有5.54億元,今年養殖漁業從帳面上來看為什麼差異那麼大?
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transcript.gazette[41].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[41].start 2026-04-29T11:12:16.455000+08:00
transcript.gazette[41].guessed
transcript.gazette[41].end 2026-04-29T11:12:20.040000+08:00
transcript.gazette[41].text 所以我希望整個計畫要做一些調整。
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transcript.gazette[42].speaker 陳部長駿季
transcript.gazette[42].start 2026-04-29T11:12:20.300000+08:00
transcript.gazette[42].guessed
transcript.gazette[42].end 2026-04-29T11:12:25.566000+08:00
transcript.gazette[42].text 謝謝委員的提醒,我們會再去爭取,特別是有一些比較大型的建設,我們用專案的方式去處理。
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transcript.gazette[43].start 2026-04-29T11:12:27.228000+08:00
transcript.gazette[43].guessed
transcript.gazette[43].end 2026-04-29T11:12:28.669000+08:00
transcript.gazette[43].text 主要是養殖漁業區啦!
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transcript.gazette[44].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[44].start 2026-04-29T11:12:28.789000+08:00
transcript.gazette[44].guessed
transcript.gazette[44].end 2026-04-29T11:12:34.214000+08:00
transcript.gazette[44].text 例如高雄、屏東、臺南,如果有專案計畫,我們希望能夠有專案計畫。
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transcript.gazette[45].speaker 陳部長駿季
transcript.gazette[45].start 2026-04-29T11:12:34.214000+08:00
transcript.gazette[45].guessed
transcript.gazette[45].end 2026-04-29T11:12:35.455000+08:00
transcript.gazette[45].text 用專案計畫的方式處理。
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transcript.gazette[46].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[46].start 2026-04-29T11:12:35.715000+08:00
transcript.gazette[46].guessed
transcript.gazette[46].end 2026-04-29T11:12:41.540000+08:00
transcript.gazette[46].text 另外第14項擴展動物收容量及場域優化竟然預算歸零,是什麼狀況?
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transcript.gazette[47].speaker 陳部長駿季
transcript.gazette[47].start 2026-04-29T11:12:43.761000+08:00
transcript.gazette[47].guessed
transcript.gazette[47].end 2026-04-29T11:12:55.531000+08:00
transcript.gazette[47].text 我們的地方收容屬於地方業務,因為財劃法而移到一般性補助款,但同樣的,因為動物收容也有全國跨區的業務,所以我們都會用專案的方式處理。
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transcript.gazette[48].start 2026-04-29T11:12:55.772000+08:00
transcript.gazette[48].guessed
transcript.gazette[48].end 2026-04-29T11:12:59.895000+08:00
transcript.gazette[48].text 部長,我提醒你,如果預算歸零的話,就沒有這項計畫了嘛!
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transcript.gazette[49].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[49].start 2026-04-29T11:13:01.534000+08:00
transcript.gazette[49].guessed
transcript.gazette[49].end 2026-04-29T11:13:02.715000+08:00
transcript.gazette[49].text 你的計畫就可以取消啊!
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transcript.gazette[50].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[50].start 2026-04-29T11:13:02.895000+08:00
transcript.gazette[50].guessed
transcript.gazette[50].end 2026-04-29T11:13:02.995000+08:00
transcript.gazette[50].text 是不是?
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transcript.gazette[51].speaker 陳部長駿季
transcript.gazette[51].start 2026-04-29T11:13:03.575000+08:00
transcript.gazette[51].guessed
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transcript.gazette[51].text 它變成一般性的補助款,但是中央和地方共同要努力的地方,我們就用專案計畫去處理,我們現在是用這樣的方式處理。
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transcript.gazette[52].start 2026-04-29T11:13:15.220000+08:00
transcript.gazette[52].guessed
transcript.gazette[52].end 2026-04-29T11:13:16.781000+08:00
transcript.gazette[52].text 你用專案計畫是編多少錢?
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transcript.gazette[53].speaker 陳部長駿季
transcript.gazette[53].start 2026-04-29T11:13:16.901000+08:00
transcript.gazette[53].guessed
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transcript.gazette[53].text 1.43億元。
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transcript.gazette[54].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[54].start 2026-04-29T11:13:21.536000+08:00
transcript.gazette[54].guessed
transcript.gazette[54].end 2026-04-29T11:13:36.830000+08:00
transcript.gazette[54].text 1.43億元也比去年少很多,計畫該調整就調整,我很難想像你們重大的公共建設竟然歸零,你們去做一些調整好嗎?了解。
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transcript.gazette[55].start 2026-04-29T11:13:36.830000+08:00
transcript.gazette[55].guessed
transcript.gazette[55].end 2026-04-29T11:13:56.380000+08:00
transcript.gazette[55].text 另外石斑魚的部分,我做一些建議,石斑魚產銷失衡跟價格倒掛,還有需要更多大型的冷鏈轉型和多元市場的開拓,現在整個石斑魚產業碰到困境,就是外銷的問題跟產能的積壓,我想署長很清楚。
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transcript.gazette[56].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[56].start 2026-04-29T11:13:57.120000+08:00
transcript.gazette[56].guessed
transcript.gazette[56].end 2026-04-29T11:13:58.920000+08:00
transcript.gazette[56].text 另外,價格倒掛問題嚴不嚴重?
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transcript.gazette[57].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[57].start 2026-04-29T11:13:58.980000+08:00
transcript.gazette[57].guessed
transcript.gazette[57].end 2026-04-29T11:14:14.524000+08:00
transcript.gazette[57].text 應該是很嚴重,上游產業鏈信心不夠,國際貿易的風險,因為我們的市場太集中,所以我建議你要把活魚供應轉向多元加工,這是一個解決方案。
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transcript.gazette[58].guessed
transcript.gazette[58].end 2026-04-29T11:14:37.355000+08:00
transcript.gazette[58].text 另外,你有立即性的即時即刻產能調控跟庫存去化的機制,你要落實登錄場的制度跟高品質的品牌化,要把它打出來,這也是一個重點,你要把外銷風險做一些分散,不要集中在中國和香港。
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transcript.gazette[59].end 2026-04-29T11:14:40.797000+08:00
transcript.gazette[59].text 非中市場,特別是日本,韓國也可以努力。
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transcript.gazette[60].guessed
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transcript.gazette[60].text 我希望你把我這四項建議加上目前的困境,你們1個月提出改善計畫,可以嗎?
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transcript.gazette[61].speaker 陳部長駿季
transcript.gazette[61].start 2026-04-29T11:14:49.081000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[61].text 可以,謝謝委員的建議,我只講一點,有關調控的部分,我們希望建立一個類似農糧滾動式倉儲的方式,而不是等價格低了才進場處理,我認為一個常態的滾動式倉儲的方式就能夠讓價格比較穩定,這只是其中一個說明,後續我會針對這四項建議……
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transcript.gazette[62].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[62].start 2026-04-29T11:15:09.776000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[62].text 所以我提出的這四項建議是不是都很具體?
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transcript.gazette[63].speaker 陳部長駿季
transcript.gazette[63].start 2026-04-29T11:15:13.519000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[63].text 我覺得都非常可行,我們會有一個更完善的規劃跟委員報告。
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transcript.gazette[64].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[64].start 2026-04-29T11:15:17.562000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[64].end 2026-04-29T11:15:19.163000+08:00
transcript.gazette[64].text 所以我發現這石斑魚的產業困境也是事實嘛!是。
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transcript.gazette[65].speaker 邱委員志偉
transcript.gazette[65].start 2026-04-29T11:15:21.825000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[65].text 所以拜託一個月之內,針對困境能夠提出解決的方案,然後具體去落實。
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transcript.gazette[66].speaker 陳部長駿季
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transcript.gazette[66].text 了解,謝謝委員。
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transcript.gazette[67].start 2026-04-29T11:15:29.749000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[67].text 另外,公共建設支出的部分,漁業永續經營基礎建設計畫去年的預算是14.53億元,今年剩下11.42億元,這牽涉到整個漁港建設,漁港建設牽涉到財劃法,這我也理解,第二類漁港高雄市非常多,第二類漁港的建設經費變成要由地方政府負擔比較多,對不對?是。
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transcript.gazette[68].text 過去中央有補助,現在因為財劃法規定,所以你只能把它變成一般性補助款,你看一下預算書第15頁,一般性補助款總共才多少?
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transcript.gazette[69].start 2026-04-29T11:16:15.663000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[69].text 26.37億元。
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transcript.gazette[70].start 2026-04-29T11:16:15.663000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[70].text 總共26.37億元。
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transcript.gazette[71].speaker 陳部長駿季
transcript.gazette[71].start 2026-04-29T11:16:16.243000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[71].text 其中漁業的部分就9億元。
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transcript.gazette[72].start 2026-04-29T11:16:20.025000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[72].text 雖然是9億元,但還是不夠,跟之前財劃法沒修正之前比還是不夠,地方政府財政在有限的情況下,過去需要中央政府補助的,它拿不出相對應的財源,所以很多第二類漁港建設就停擺了。
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transcript.gazette[73].text 我的問題是說漁港基礎建設牽涉到漁業發展,也牽涉到漁民作業的生命財產安全,所以高雄市政府有27項針對第二類漁港的工程跟漁業署申請,但得到的一般性補助款才五千多萬元而已,那麼多第二類漁港,光是本席的選區就有12項計畫,這個部分要怎麼處理呢?
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transcript.gazette[74].start 2026-04-29T11:17:05.170000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[74].text 我希望用你們之前所提到的高雄市漁港建設專案計畫提報到行政院,用這個部分來補貼過去用一般性補助款不足的地方。
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transcript.gazette[75].text 謝謝委員,因為現在第二類漁港是地方政府的權責,但是我們又擔心地方政府經費不夠的時候、我們的補助比率下降的時候,它也沒辦法去做,所以我們有另外一個配套,我們會透過專案計畫去爭取相關經費額外支持。
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transcript.gazette[76].text 漁業發展對高雄市至關重要,特別是對我的選區,我希望這個能把我選區所有的第二類漁港建設好,確保漁民作業安全。
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transcript.gazette[77].text 高雄市政府和屏東縣政府同樣都有漁港建設專案計畫,對不對?是。
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transcript.gazette[78].start 2026-04-29T11:17:55.482000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[78].text 屏東好像快一點。
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transcript.gazette[79].speaker 王署長茂城
transcript.gazette[79].start 2026-04-29T11:17:56.782000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[79].text 它走得比較快。
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transcript.gazette[80].start 2026-04-29T11:17:58.424000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[80].text 高雄市可能各項漁港經費比屏東縣還多,這個部分我拜託署長是不是跟高雄市海洋局、相關單位有個聯繫會報和窗口?
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transcript.gazette[81].start 2026-04-29T11:18:11.655000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[81].text 我也跟你們一起來努力。
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transcript.gazette[82].speaker 陳部長駿季
transcript.gazette[82].start 2026-04-29T11:18:13.597000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[82].text 可以,我們可以啟動一個專案的聯繫窗口,看看那些計畫該怎麼研提、該怎麼設計。
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transcript.gazette[83].text 房舍的項目全都在我的選區,我每年都會去看,大家都跟我反映,我有責任把這些漁港經費爭取下來,確保我選區漁民作業安全,但是錢沒有到位,這永遠沒辦法執行,所以我拜託署長親自帶隊或指派一位副署長跟高雄市政府海洋局對接,趕快把專案計畫用最快的速度、最好的效率報部,核定之後,這些第二類漁港建設經費才有著落。
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transcript.gazette[84].text 委員,絕對沒問題,我們會跟海洋局局長來密切聯繫。
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transcript.gazette[85].start 2026-04-29T11:19:03.757000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[85].end 2026-04-29T11:19:16.926000+08:00
transcript.gazette[85].text 時間是我指定的6加2,雖然我對其他委員很放鬆,但是我嚴以律己,時間到了我就必須下去,還有很多議題,當主席一定要嚴以律己。
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transcript.gazette[86].speaker 主席
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transcript.gazette[86].end 2026-04-29T11:19:20.408000+08:00
transcript.gazette[86].text 我可以給你多一點。
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transcript.gazette[87].start 2026-04-29T11:19:20.408000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[87].end 2026-04-29T11:19:20.669000+08:00
transcript.gazette[87].text 這不能轉讓。
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transcript.gazette[88].speaker 主席
transcript.gazette[88].start 2026-04-29T11:19:21.049000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[88].end 2026-04-29T11:19:21.389000+08:00
transcript.gazette[88].text 謝謝邱志偉委員。
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transcript.gazette[89].speaker 主席
transcript.gazette[89].start 2026-04-29T11:19:21.889000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[89].end 2026-04-29T11:19:24.460429+08:00
transcript.gazette[89].text 接下來請鄭正鈐委員。
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