| IVOD_ID |
168886 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168886 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-29T09:17:33+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-29T09:28:56+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:23 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6301273cb2dfee84420c3105483c0f984294381b535652e636c9d108d903c1839fb3dd3e97491ffa5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱議瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:17:33 - 09:28:56 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：一、 審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於農業部及所屬單位預算部分。
二、 審查115年度中央政府總預算案有關第27款直轄市及縣市政府第7項一般性補助款—農業部主管第1目農業部、第2目林業及自然保育署及所屬、第3目農村發展及水土保持署及所屬、第4目漁業署及所屬、第5目動植物防疫檢疫署及所屬、第6目農糧署及所屬、第7目農田水利署部分預算。
三、 審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於農業部主管：農業作業基金、農田水利事業作業基金、農業特別收入基金及農民退休基金。(詢答)
【4月29日及4月30日二天一次會】） |
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先請登記第一位邱毅英委員資訊好謝謝主席我請一下部長請農業部陳部長 |
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部長好部長我想我今天就這個農產品的食品安全的部分來請教這兩天我想這個整個新聞已經從上個禮拜上上禮拜的發芽馬鈴薯到現在的進口花生已經開始在炒作那我看到包括你們的次長也出來拍了一個影片部長我想還是要請教您 |
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到底這個台灣的花生的市佔率其實國產花生市佔率是佔百分之七十嘛七十五左右百分之七十五所以我們還是有大概一萬噸每一年大概還是有一萬噸的這個缺口對不對但這一萬噸的缺口一萬三千到一萬五千噸那這一萬噸的缺口是不是都需要仰賴進口是的那如果仰賴進口主要的進口國有哪些美國是我們的主要的進口國嗎 |
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我想以花生來講,過往美國的花生大概只有進了大概不到1%,就是去年是68,前年是75萬噸那其他的最主要是印度、阿根廷跟巴西,它佔了將近96%到97% |
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好 那美國進口的這些花生主要拿來做什麼因為美國的花生其實比較硬 香氣不足台灣人還是喜歡吃台灣的國產花生嘛最主要是做了一些花生醬還有一些加工的一個產品如果他進來 他進口來是在做 主要是做花生醬跟加工品那對於國產市場的影響是什麼 |
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我想我們台灣的花生有它的香氣跟它的特殊性所以我們台灣的最主要是以掀夾的方式去做去做一個商品還有相關的這些如果就即使是托格的話也會以呈現台灣的香氣為主的這些加工產品所以兩者有市場它的區別所以大家現在在講說美國進口花生零關稅會影響台灣的國產花生那 |
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這個相對應的就是我們現在談到的這個美國進口的任何食品我們有一個300億的食安基金這個食安基金會用在補助這個上面嗎或是輔導我想一定是協助這個產業之後升級我想特別趁這個機會跟委員報告一下 |
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外界所擔心的說會被美國的花生打趴那他是純粹從價格的角度去看這個問題那剛才我也特別說到了台灣的花生有它的特色那我們之所以會持續佔75%就是說它本身有它的特色所以後續我想我們除了對地方的這些產業做升級輔導以外我們對於整個市場的區隔的品牌行銷我們也會加大力道 |
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好 這個我希望這個農業部說到做到如果談到品牌行銷產地來 部長我今天要跟你討論洗產地的問題我知道您是這個農產專家上個禮拜其實我過去在去年我一直在跟農業部討論這個問題很多的進口菜的業者從中國洗產地 |
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那變成從中國買菜進來之後呢到了越南換一個貨櫃換一個政界就變成是合法的越南的蔬菜進口來台灣這一個貨櫃的暴利我們想說這樣子轉運會賺錢嗎這一個貨櫃的暴利是20萬到50萬不對如何證明它其實是經由 |
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這個越南去洗產地 這個是報價單走越南出口台灣的參考費用 請您看一下然後呢 他有一個產地證跟檢驗證一個貨櫃只要3000塊人民幣當地政府可以配合業者去開立假的產地證明 |
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一個貨櫃只要大概台幣1.3萬元就可以拿到這樣的一個產地證明那如何證明這一些基本上是息產地部長讓您看一下113年進口的高麗菜跟大白菜大概有8萬噸這個比例增加的非常多但是越南實際產的大白菜的量 |
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其實不到這些再給您看一個香菇 |
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這個呢根據我從當地的台商直接種植的台商取得的資料越南的香菇實際的產地大概是在大樂種植的面積大概5公頃你們現場有非常多的農業專家應該可以很清楚的去計算以5公頃的面積大概年產量只有7.5噸但是您知道去年112年從越南進口到台灣的乾香菇 |
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高達了955噸越南一年大概只有產7.5噸在他們越南自己國內借家就不夠了竟然有辦法進口955噸的香菇來台灣這代表什麼 |
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這代表什麼 農業部有沒有掌握部長 這個截圖是您接受電視台訪問的時候我把它一格一格把它放出來這些都是您說過的話嘛 對不對您也是這一方面的專家好 您說呢越南跟中國因為產地相近有可能我們在做這一些這個資料比對的時候資料鑑定的時候因為它的土質 它的水 它的空氣太過相近 |
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非常有可能沒有辦法檢驗出到底哪裡是越南的哪裡是中國的這個是您說過的嘛對不對對現在的進步現在的資料庫比較多的時候就能夠做有效的區別所以部長我給您看這一張這一張呢是越南的 |
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台商越南的台灣農民種菜的時候他把他們所種的大白菜拿去給第三方公證所做出的檢驗這第三方公證所做出的檢驗呢他可以很清楚的分辨到他所送來的這個大白菜是越南產出的不是中國產出的好如果現在的檢驗標準是可以這麼清楚的驗出的話 |
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農業部有沒有可能積極的去採取行動嚇阻這樣子的洗產地的行為發生我想第一個謝謝委員的關心那我想農業部一向對於這種洗產地是非常厭惡而且我們積極建立相關的這個資料庫那對越南來講整個的資料庫的建置第一個要去取樣去採樣的部分其實我們已經受到越南相當多的干擾我們 |
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社團院呢 相當多的干擾是什麼就是 相關的就是 我們希望說透過因為我們去到那邊要去洗是官方的干擾 還是進口商的干擾 還是什麼樣的干擾不是 是 我想 他們官方本身只能安排到我們他指定的地點去採樣那這個是我們不能接受的 |
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因為我們希望說整個的一個產區我們都希望採樣這樣的話做資料庫比對才有效果所以我們也持續在跟越南本身做相關的一個溝通那現在目前就是海關的部分對於產地證明如果疑慮的話 |
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我們一定就是會延緩放行或是再回到越南去做更仔細的查證但是這個還不足以去二組最主要是我們必須掌握我們的技術那技術的部分後來我們透過很多台商來協助從越南拿回來這些香菇我們逐漸做了這個資料庫這也是我跟你說的我們現在的檢測也越來越精準但是有一個問題就是 |
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他們很多越南的種植是在靠近大陸的那個邊界讓我們去做比較難以判斷的一個混淆的事讓你很難以去辨別但是其實我覺得有一些東西依常理去做判斷啦部長其實這件事情在邊境的管制在關口的管制上面我也曾經跟農業部還有跟海關去做過討論很多的 |
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很多人走小三通去帶中國的香菇進入台灣這個已經是沒有辦法控制的一個人每一次進出口金門的居民可以帶一公斤所以呢在三鳳中街我在高雄的三鳳中街買到的很多都是中國進口的香菇走小三通進來的不是走合法的進口的這個過程進來的但是這個怎麼抓 抓不到 |
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因為我們就規定小三通的路線金門的居民可以帶1公斤自用有的人一天進出好幾次一次帶1公斤如果說單一個人經常進出的話我們會做相關的一個追蹤還是沒用嘛那所以我在講說你們這個我們所謂的這個同位素的檢驗這一件事情有沒有可能納入未來 |
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農業部在對這些進口蔬菜的檢驗標準上面來做一個強制我想在美國他們其實都有做這樣的一個強制標準那這些洗產地洗產地的進口蔬菜會流入哪裡團扇流入學校的營養午餐 |
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我想第一個我想我願意正面的回應委員我願意把相關的這些高比較高的這些同位素的檢測納入相關的一個基本檢測範圍之內那至於說後續要從哪個品項開始我想我們專家會來討論 |
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我覺得這個應該開始去進行啦現在你們還是要跟關口去做比對齁類似這樣的一個洗產地整貨櫃整貨櫃的進來當然你會告訴我說進口的蔬菜大概就是颱風期的時候短缺的時候才有需要但是現在的狀態已經不是這樣囉整貨櫃整貨櫃這樣的進來對於台灣的 |
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菜農對於臺灣的農民的影響甚至你進入到了校園這些進口來的蔬菜 洗產地的蔬菜它的農藥檢測是沒有經過審核的然後直接進入到了校園團上我知道比如說像很多的國小的營養午餐的團上像西螺的市場裡面的中轉菜是佔一成喔 |
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是占一成喔那這些是沒有辦法檢驗的喔這個對於我們的食品安全衛生來講其實這個才是最大的考驗喔這個是要考驗農業部你們在檢測上面的功能我也跟委員講喔我也請我們的農事所這邊喔後續針對越南地區做航拍我要去標定他們的產地大概有多少量 |
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如果說你的輸到台灣的量已經超過的時候應該要有個機制去做這樣的一個處理就像委員剛才所說的大概用這樣的方式來處理 |
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邱委員議瑩 |
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謝謝主席，我請部長。 |
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主席 |
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請農業部陳部長。 |
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陳部長駿季 |
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委員好。 |
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部長好。 |
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部長，我今天就農產品食品安全的部分來請教。 |
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這兩天我想整個新聞從上個禮拜、上上禮拜的發芽馬鈴薯，到現在的進口花生，已經開始在炒作，我看到包括你們的次長也出來拍了一個影片……是。 |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
0.983 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-04-29T09:18:13.358000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-04-29T09:18:21.502000+08:00 |
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部長，我還是要請教您，到底臺灣花生的市占率，其實國產花生的市占率是占70%嘛？ |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0.848 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-04-29T09:18:22.482000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-04-29T09:18:22.663000+08:00 |
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75%左右。75%？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
0.4 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-04-29T09:18:23.743000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-04-29T09:18:28.886000+08:00 |
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所以我們還是有大概一萬噸，每一年大概還是有1萬噸的缺口，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-04-29T09:18:28.886000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-04-29T09:18:29.886000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].text |
1萬3,000到1萬5,000噸。 |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-04-29T09:18:29.146000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-04-29T09:18:35.269000+08:00 |
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這1萬噸的缺口是不是都需要仰賴進口？是的。 |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-04-29T09:18:36.009000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-04-29T09:18:38.831000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
如果仰賴進口，主要的進口國有哪些？ |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-04-29T09:18:39.351000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-04-29T09:18:40.852000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].text |
美國是我們主要的進口國嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-04-29T09:18:42.273000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-04-29T09:18:54.972000+08:00 |
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以花生來講，過往美國的花生大概只有進不到1%，去年是68萬噸，前年是75萬噸，其他最主要是印度、阿根廷跟巴西占了將近96%到97%。 |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-04-29T09:18:57.875000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-04-29T09:19:00.936000+08:00 |
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好，這些美國進口的花生主要拿來做什麼？加工。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.789 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-04-29T09:19:00.936000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-04-29T09:19:06.899000+08:00 |
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因為美國的花生其實比較硬、香氣不足，臺灣人還是喜歡吃臺灣的國產花生嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-04-29T09:19:07.379000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-04-29T09:19:10.960000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
是，最主要是做一些花生醬，還有一些加工的產品。 |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-04-29T09:19:11.361000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-04-29T09:19:15.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
如果他進口主要是做花生醬跟加工品…… |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-04-29T09:19:15.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-04-29T09:19:16.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
對，還有調製的部分。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-04-29T09:19:16.703000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-04-29T09:19:17.243000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
對於國產市場的影響是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-04-29T09:19:20.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-04-29T09:19:38.061000+08:00 |
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臺灣的花生有它的香氣跟特殊性，我們最主要是以鮮莢的方式去做商品，即使是脫殼的話，也會呈現以臺灣香氣為主的這些加工產品，所以兩者有市場上的區隔。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.894 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-04-29T09:19:38.541000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-04-29T09:19:52.208000+08:00 |
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大家現在在講美國進口花生零關稅會影響臺灣的國產花生，這個相對應的就是我們現在談到美國進口的任何食品，我們有一個300億的食安基金嘛！是。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.967 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-04-29T09:19:52.608000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-04-29T09:19:53.589000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
食安基金會用在補助這個上面嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-29T09:19:53.869000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-04-29T09:19:54.169000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
還是輔導？ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-04-29T09:19:54.269000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-04-29T09:19:54.529000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
一定是協助產業做升級。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-04-29T09:19:54.529000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-04-29T09:20:12.476000+08:00 |
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我想特別趁這個機會跟委員報告一下，外界所擔心的被美國花生打趴，他是純粹從價格的角度去看這個問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-29T09:20:12.816000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-04-29T09:20:29.241000+08:00 |
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剛才委員也特別說到了，臺灣花生有它的特色，我們之所以會持續占75%，就是它本身有特色，所以後續我們除了對地方的這些產業做升級輔導以外，對於整個市場區隔的品牌行銷，我們也會加大力道。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.963 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-04-29T09:20:29.681000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-04-29T09:20:33.342000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
好，我希望農業部說到做到。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-29T09:20:34.322000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-04-29T09:20:41.945000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
如果談到品牌行銷、產地，部長，我今天要跟你討論洗產地的問題，我知道您是農產專家。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-29T09:20:46.506000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-04-29T09:21:11.137000+08:00 |
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去年我一直在跟農業部討論這個問題，很多進口菜的業者從中國洗產地，從中國買菜進來之後，到了越南換一個貨櫃、換一個證件，就變成是合法的越南蔬菜進口臺灣，我們想說這樣子轉運會賺錢嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.975 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-29T09:21:11.137000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-04-29T09:21:12.017000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
這一個貨櫃的暴利是20萬到50萬！ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-29T09:21:12.137000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-04-29T09:21:21.762000+08:00 |
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部長，如何證明它其實是經由越南去洗產地？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-29T09:21:22.703000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-04-29T09:21:27.626000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
這個是報價單，走越南出口臺灣的參考費用，請您看一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-29T09:21:29.148000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-29T09:21:47.286000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
它有產地證明跟檢驗證明，一個貨櫃只要3,000塊人民幣，當地政府可以配合業者開立假的產地證明，一個貨櫃只要大概臺幣1.3萬元，就可以拿到這樣的產地證明。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-29T09:21:48.127000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-29T09:21:52.428000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
那如何證明這一些基本上是洗產地？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-29T09:21:53.508000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-29T09:22:11.987000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
讓您看一下，113年進口的高麗菜跟大白菜大概有8萬噸，這個比例增加得非常多，但是越南實際產的大白菜的量其實不到這些。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.98 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-29T09:22:12.690000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-29T09:22:27.236000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
再給您看一個香菇的例子，根據我從當地直接種植的臺商取得的資料，越南的香菇實際的產地大概是在大叻，種植面積大概5公頃。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.925 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-29T09:22:27.236000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-29T09:22:45.962000+08:00 |
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你們現場有非常多農業專家，應該可以很清楚地計算，以5公頃的面積，大概年產量只有7.5噸，但是112年從越南進口到臺灣的乾香菇高達955噸，越南一年大概只有產7.5噸，在越南國內生吃都不夠了，竟然有辦法進口955噸香菇來臺灣！ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.956 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-29T09:22:45.962000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-29T09:22:46.102000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
這代表什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-29T09:23:03.342000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-04-29T09:23:04.682000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
這代表什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-29T09:23:04.682000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-04-29T09:23:05.303000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
農業部有沒有掌握？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-29T09:23:06.443000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-04-29T09:23:15.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
部長，這個截圖是您接受電視臺訪問的時候，我把它一格一格地放出來，這些都是您說過的話，對不對？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-29T09:23:15.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-04-29T09:23:16.785000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
您也是這一方面的專家。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-29T09:23:18.446000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-04-29T09:23:37.051000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
你說越南跟中國因為產地相近，有可能我們在做這些資料比對、資料鑑定的時候，因為它的土質、水、空氣太過相近，非常有可能沒有辦法檢驗出到底哪裡是越南的、哪裡是中國的。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.986 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-29T09:23:37.571000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-29T09:23:39.372000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
這個是您說過的，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-29T09:23:39.372000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-04-29T09:23:43.273000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
對，現在資料庫比較多的時候，就能夠做有效的區別。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-29T09:23:44.234000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-04-29T09:24:09.445000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
部長，我給您看這一張，這一張是越南的臺灣農民種菜的時候，把他們所種的大白菜拿去給公正第三方做出的檢驗，這個公正第三方做出的檢驗，可以很清楚地分辨他所送來的這個大白菜是越南產出的，不是中國產出的。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-29T09:24:11.326000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-04-29T09:24:25.249000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
如果現在的檢驗標準可以這麼清楚驗出的話，農業部有沒有可能積極採取行動，嚇阻這樣子的洗產地行為發生？部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.958 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-29T09:24:27.169000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-04-29T09:24:35.171000+08:00 |
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第一個，謝謝委員關心，農業部對於這種洗產地一向是非常厭惡，而且我們積極建立相關的資料庫。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-04-29T09:24:35.591000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-04-29T09:24:44.093000+08:00 |
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對越南來講，整個資料庫的建置，第一個要去取樣、採樣的部分，其實我們已經受到越南相當多的干擾。我們…… |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-04-29T09:24:45.848000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-04-29T09:24:47.510000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
受到越南相當多的干擾，是指什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.643 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-04-29T09:24:47.510000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-04-29T09:24:51.776000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
就是相關的這些，我們希望透過……因為我們到那邊要去…… |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-04-29T09:24:51.976000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-04-29T09:24:54.399000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
是官方的干擾還是進口商的干擾，或者什麼樣的干擾？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-04-29T09:24:54.399000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-04-29T09:25:11.841000+08:00 |
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不是，他們官方本身只能安排我們……他指定的地點去採樣，這個是我們不能接受的，因為整個產區我們都希望採樣，這樣的話做資料庫比對才有效果，所以我們也持續在跟越南本身做相關溝通。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-04-29T09:25:12.882000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-04-29T09:25:28.293000+08:00 |
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目前海關部分，對於產地證明如果有疑慮的話，我們一律就是會延緩放行，或是再回到越南去做更仔細的查證，但這個還不足以遏阻，最主要是我們必須掌握我們的技術。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.942 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-04-29T09:25:28.473000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-04-29T09:25:40.359000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
技術的部分，後來透過很多臺商協助，從越南拿回來的香菇，我們逐漸做了這些資料庫，這也是我跟你說的，我們現在的檢測也越來越精準。對。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-04-29T09:25:40.899000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-04-29T09:25:51.371000+08:00 |
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但是有一個問題，很多越南的種植地點靠近大陸邊界，讓我們比較難以判斷…… |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.935 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-04-29T09:25:52.312000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-04-29T09:25:55.033000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
混淆視聽，讓你很難以去辨別。對。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-04-29T09:25:55.813000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-04-29T09:26:15.682000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
其實我覺得有一些東西依常理去判斷，這件事情在邊境管制、關口管制上面，我也曾經跟農業部還有海關做過討論，不要說農民，很多人走小三通……是。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-04-29T09:26:17.023000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-04-29T09:26:40.558000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
帶中國的香菇進入臺灣，這已經是沒有辦法控制的，金門居民每一次進出一個人可以帶1公斤，我在高雄三鳳中街買到的很多都是中國進口的香菇、走小三通進來，不是經合法進口的過程進來的。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.887 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-04-29T09:26:41.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-04-29T09:26:41.899000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
但是這個怎麼抓？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-04-29T09:26:42.320000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-04-29T09:26:52.102000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
抓不到，因為我們就規定小三通的路線金門居民可以帶1公斤自用，有的人一天進出好幾次，一次帶1公斤…… |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-04-29T09:26:53.723000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-04-29T09:26:57.644000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
對，現在針對單一個人經常進出，我們會做相關的追蹤跟列管。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.68 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-04-29T09:26:57.644000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-04-29T09:26:58.124000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
還是沒用嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-04-29T09:26:58.784000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-04-29T09:27:13.692000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
所以我在講，所謂同位素檢驗這件事情，有沒有可能納入未來農業部對進口蔬菜的檢驗標準上面強制？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-04-29T09:27:14.452000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-04-29T09:27:17.435000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
在美國其實都有這樣的強制標準。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-04-29T09:27:18.376000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-04-29T09:27:23.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
這些洗產地的進口蔬菜會流入哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-04-29T09:27:23.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-04-29T09:27:25.202000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
團膳，流入學校的營養午餐。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-04-29T09:27:27.193000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-04-29T09:27:36.648000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
第一個，我正面回應委員，我願意把比較高的同位素檢測納入相關的基本檢測範圍之內，至於後續要從哪個品項開始，我想我們的專家會討論。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.983 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-04-29T09:27:41.103000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-04-29T09:27:42.724000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
我覺得這個應該開始進行，甚至你們…… |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.733 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-04-29T09:27:42.724000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-04-29T09:27:44.425000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
我還有一個想法要跟…… |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-04-29T09:27:44.425000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-04-29T09:27:57.254000+08:00 |
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你們現在還是要跟關口做比對，類似這樣洗產地的整個貨櫃、整個貨櫃進來，當然你會告訴我進口蔬菜大概就是颱風期、短缺的時候才有需要，但是現在的狀態已經不是這樣了喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.904 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-04-29T09:27:57.254000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-04-29T09:28:15.048000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
整個貨櫃、整個貨櫃這樣子進來，對於臺灣菜農、對於臺灣農民的影響，甚至進入了校園，這些進口蔬菜、洗產地的蔬菜，它的農藥檢測是沒有經過審核的，然後直接進入校園團膳。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-04-29T09:28:15.208000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-04-29T09:28:22.752000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
我知道很多國小的營養午餐團膳，像西螺市場裡面的中轉菜是占一成！ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.966 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-04-29T09:28:22.752000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-04-29T09:28:23.752000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
是，我知道…… |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-04-29T09:28:22.912000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-04-29T09:28:23.333000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
這些是沒辦法檢驗的喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-04-29T09:28:23.533000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-04-29T09:28:23.693000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
這對於我們的食品……是。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-04-29T09:28:23.773000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-04-29T09:28:25.114000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
安全衛生來講，其實這才是最大的考驗，這個是要考驗農業部在檢測上面的功力。 |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.97 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-04-29T09:28:25.214000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-04-29T09:28:26.775000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
我也跟委員講，我也請農試所後續針對越南地區做航拍，我要去標定他們的產地大概有多少量。 |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.974 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-04-29T09:28:42.504000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-04-29T09:28:52.416000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
如果他輸到臺灣的量已經超過的時候，應該要有一個機制做這樣的處理，就像委員剛才所說的，大概用這樣的方式處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.959 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-04-29T09:28:52.916000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-04-29T09:28:54.344571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
好，謝謝。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
邱委員議瑩 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-04-29T09:28:54.644571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-04-29T09:28:56.930286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
謝謝主席，不好意思。 |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-04-29T09:28:57.230286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-04-29T09:29:01.230286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
好，請部長先回座，謝謝邱議瑩委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-04-29T09:29:01.530286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-04-29T09:29:04.673143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
下一位質詢請張嘉郡委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0 |