iVOD / 168873

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IVOD_ID 168873
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168873
日期 2026-04-28
會議資料.會議代碼 院會-11-5-8
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第5會期第8次會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 5
會議資料.會次 8
會議資料.種類 院會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第5會期第8次會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-04-28T11:01:17+08:00
結束時間 2026-04-28T11:16:50+08:00
影片長度 00:15:33
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委員名稱 廖先翔
委員發言時間 11:01:17 - 11:16:50
會議時間 2026-04-28T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 第11屆第5會期第8次會議(事由:一、討論事項:本院民進黨黨團,建請院會作成決議:「一、立法院不分朝野堅定支持我國總統進行對外國是訪問,堅持台灣人有走向世界,與世界各國交往合作的權利。二、嚴正譴責中華人民共和國政府以脅迫手段迫使第三國撤銷我國元首專機飛航許可之粗暴行為,違反聯合國憲章、國際民航公約精神、外交關係慣例,並構成對第三國主權之公然干涉。三、促請外交部、駐外館處、國際民航組織(ICAO)之友我代表及所有可行管道,將本事件列入國際紀錄,且尋求國際民航組織、聯合國人權理事會等多邊機制之關注與因應,並就中華人民共和國對我國長期之脅迫行為,研擬完整之法律文件與政策白皮書,於年度外交報告中專章說明。四、呼籲世界上所有理念相近之民主夥伴,正視中華人民共和國對他國實施經濟與外交脅迫之行為,將其納入各國『反脅迫』(anti-coercion)之政策工具與立法檢討。並以具體行動聲援我國維護正當國際交往之權利,共同捍衛以規則為基礎之國際秩序、自由開放之國際航空體系,以及中小型國家免於威權霸凌之主權空間。中華民國是主權獨立的民主國家,任何外部勢力之脅迫、封鎖或打壓,皆不能改變我國走向世界、與民主夥伴並肩同行之決心。本院全體委員將超越黨派立場,團結一致,捍衛國家主權、民主自由與國際尊嚴。」是否有當?請公決案等2案。二、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。三、同意權之行使事項:本院司法及法制、內政兩委員會報告審查「總統咨,為最高檢察署檢察總長邢泰釗任期於115年5月7日屆滿,茲依法院組織法第66條第2項規定,提名徐錫祥為最高檢察署檢察總長,咨請同意案」案。(5月5日上午)四、審計長列席報告中華民國113年度中央政府總決算審核報告等案審核經過並備諮詢。(5月5日下午)五、4月24日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。)
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 他沒有完成這個行為所以他有外國籍我們當初是這樣認為同樣的我想請問一下院長或者是部長如果說我們把大陸地區視為中華人民共和國的話我們的台灣人如果在大陸無論是就業還是經商他的個人所得稅可不可以比照所得基本稅額條例的第12條的
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 國外收入來課稅我想這個部分對於這個課稅的部分相關的法規都有一些明確的規定那大陸地區有大陸地區的一個依照兩岸條例的一些規定是現行的規定是依照兩岸人民關係條例應該是大概24條的一個規定
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 明明有寫在裡面所以我尊重您的不用一直跳回來我就尊重您的見解所以為什麼我們台灣人在外國的所得沒有辦法依照所得基本稅額條例第12條這剛剛部長說過兩岸聯合國有規定
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 參政也一樣,兩岸人民關係條例利用規定啊如果大陸地區的什麼事情都用兩岸人民關係條例來講的話那自然會有國際法的問題嘛但既然我們扯到其他法了那就代表說我們大陸籍人士他也可以用其他法嘛對不對你參政可以看國際法那為什麼繳稅我不能看所有的基本稅和條例
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 國籍法規定你在當選之前就職之前你必須放棄這個是民文規定啊有什麼好爭執的呢大陸籍的人民可以適用國籍法嘛對不對那為什麼不能適用所得基本稅額條例的這個國外所得非中華民國所得稅的部分另外有稅的規定啊選舉有選舉的規定啊
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transcript.whisperx[31].text 財政部都可以跟這些專家跟業界去眾共討論這件事情老實講不是財政部的責任但是我們財政部可以從某一個角度的方面來協助國內的體育發展再麻煩院長跟部長那我要進入下一個議題那部長你可以先請回那我們請這個金管會彭主委那就是這幾天大家討論的比較多的就是零股交易那零股交易目前
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transcript.whisperx[32].text 前兩三天金管會大概說的就是可能提前到9點從9點10分到9點可不可以趁今天這個機會您說明一下我們現在的方向以及目前不開放一些可能融資金融槓桿操作或者是全面領股的原因是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[33].text 是謝謝委員我想也謝謝委員有這個機會讓我再跟大家做說明因為主要台灣的這個資本市場我們從今天來看已經是大概第六第七我們是要觀看國際上面他大概一個國際級的資本市場該怎麼做我們就會朝這個方向來研究美國已經全面零股交易了對不對對就是說零股交易的話因為過去我們大概都是以千股為交易的方式零股的交易確實在後面陸陸續續我們把它到比如說他撮合的時間讓他更有效率避免那個價差
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transcript.whisperx[34].text 那這我們也評估過就是說再來就是我們很多的個股價值已經高過比如說可能是百元千元甚至萬元那這樣零股其實金額也蠻大的所以我們就盡量就是說我們維持一個就是說對所有投資人都公平我們就開始去優化這個過程我們也逐步在做那第一個就是把那個交易時間還有交易的撮合的這些的效率盡量跟我們的
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transcript.whisperx[35].text 整股是一樣的這部分是確定要執行的嘛我們這是朝比較正向去做因為這部分的可行性比較高那也就是如果說券商如果因為成本的關係可能不太支持這會是我們考量的因素嗎還是說我們是會站在交
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transcript.whisperx[36].text 交易這個民間這一邊 交易者這一邊的角度來看這件事情謝委員 其實特別是一個資本市場裡面除了投資人還有中介人這些比如券商還有這些比如我們交易所這些都要考量但我們剛才講說把那個零股交易的這個方式呢盡量把它跟整股整成一樣交易的模式整成一樣那跟比如說改成一股交易又是不一樣改成一股交易那個問題就比較大了所以我們要持續來研議方向是確定的 方向確定沒有問題
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transcript.whisperx[37].text 優化交易的模式是確定的那另外這個融資的方面或者是金融槓桿方面這我們也在研究所以之前七問個好像是不太支持所以我們現在的態度是因為主要是這樣就是說過去比如說我們就當沖或是以槓桿來講假設過去那個金額那麼小其實他的需要性也不大但是我剛才講過就是台灣的股市
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transcript.whisperx[38].text 現在已經到達這樣的規模很多的個股已經這樣高單價的股價所以我也責成我們兩個交易所也針對這部分所以目前沒有完全否定這個方案這兩個我們沒有完全否定這本來就是我們邁向國際級的資本市場應該要隨時都要去檢討
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transcript.whisperx[39].text 所以目前就是從交易制度上面先從零股比照我們傳統的股市方面時間以及交割方式 撮合方式那第二步我們繼續來研究我們的金融槓桿融資或當沖方面目前還沒有完全的拒絕 還在研究當中我們對所有制度都持開放的態度但是因為我們還是要考慮到我們剛剛講
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transcript.whisperx[40].text 謝謝廖委員 謝謝卓院長下一位我們請省發會委員質詢
transcript.gazette[0].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[0].start 2026-04-28T11:01:17+08:00
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transcript.gazette[0].text 謝謝主席,麻煩邀請卓院長以及莊部長。
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transcript.gazette[1].speaker 主席
transcript.gazette[1].start 2026-04-28T11:01:18+08:00
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transcript.gazette[1].text 請卓院長、莊部長。
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transcript.gazette[2].speaker 卓院長榮泰
transcript.gazette[2].start 2026-04-28T11:01:17.029000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[2].text 廖委員好。
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transcript.gazette[3].speaker 廖委員先翔
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transcript.gazette[3].text 院長好、部長好。
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transcript.gazette[4].speaker 廖委員先翔
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transcript.gazette[4].text 我等一下要講的話雖然我不一定認同,但是我先順著行政院或者是院長的一些法律見解來討論這件事情,也就是說,之前行政院認為李貞秀委員有外國的國籍,也就是說他沒有放棄中華人民共和國的國籍,所以他違反國籍法第二十條的規定,你們當初的說法大概是這樣子,在李貞秀委員的這個議題上,原則上大概是這樣,沒錯吧?
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transcript.gazette[5].text 他沒有完成這個行為。
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transcript.gazette[6].speaker 廖委員先翔
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transcript.gazette[6].text 所以他有外國籍,你們當初是這樣認為。
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transcript.gazette[7].speaker 廖委員先翔
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transcript.gazette[7].text 同樣的,我想請問一下院長或者是部長,如果我們把大陸地區視為中華人民共和國的話,那我們臺灣人如果在大陸,無論是就業還是經商,他的個人所得稅可不可以比照所得基本稅額條例第十二條的國外收入來課稅?
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transcript.gazette[8].speaker 莊部長翠雲
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transcript.gazette[8].text 對於課稅的部分,相關的法規都有一些明確的規定,大陸地區有大陸地區依照兩岸條例的一些規定。
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transcript.gazette[9].text 是,現行的規定是依照兩岸人民關係條例第二十四條的規定,我現在就是順著院長之前在李貞秀委員這個個案上面的法律見解,我們把大陸地區視為一個國家──中華人民共和國,視為一個外國,那為什麼我們臺灣人民在外國的所得沒有辦法依照所得基本稅額條例第十二條的非中華民國來源所得來課稅?
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transcript.gazette[10].text 院長可以回答這個問題嗎?
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transcript.gazette[11].speaker 卓院長榮泰
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transcript.gazette[11].text 雙方政治情勢的複雜性是歷史造成,我們正一步一步在釐清這個事實,像李貞秀女士的案例,他不僅是國籍法,在兩岸人民關係條例當中,入籍十年的規定他也沒有達到。
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transcript.gazette[12].text 我們單純討論國籍法,行政院認為他違反國籍法,對不對?
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transcript.gazette[13].speaker 廖委員先翔
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transcript.gazette[13].text 還是你現在突然認為他沒有違反國籍法了?
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transcript.gazette[14].speaker 卓院長榮泰
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transcript.gazette[14].text 他也違反國籍法。
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transcript.gazette[15].speaker 廖委員先翔
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transcript.gazette[15].text 你認為有嘛!
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transcript.gazette[16].speaker 廖委員先翔
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transcript.gazette[16].text 就是你認為他有外國國籍嘛!
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transcript.gazette[17].speaker 卓院長榮泰
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transcript.gazette[17].text 他同時違反國籍法跟兩岸人民關係條例。
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transcript.gazette[18].text 所以你認為他違反國籍法,依照您的法理,他有外國籍的身分,那同樣的,我們中華民國的國民在那一邊的所得為什麼沒有辦法當作國外的所得?
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transcript.gazette[19].text 因為剛剛部長提到了,課稅的原則有稅法各種的規定,在兩岸人民關係條例當中,它有特殊的規定。
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transcript.gazette[20].text 陸籍配偶來我們這邊取得身分證,他一樣適用兩岸人民關係條例,但是我們當初沒有採納,我們是用國籍法當作主要的訴求。
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transcript.gazette[21].text 他要參選是一回事,陸配來入籍是一回事,入籍後他要參選是一回事。是啊!
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transcript.gazette[22].text 剛剛您就說了,他違反國籍法,我順著您的法理講,他違反國籍法,有外國國籍……
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transcript.gazette[23].text 我們對任何國籍都一樣。
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transcript.gazette[24].text 那為什麼在外國地方的所得沒有辦法當作外國外的所得,而是要依照兩岸人民關係條例的規定來課稅?
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transcript.gazette[25].text 因為你要參選……
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transcript.gazette[26].text 回到李貞秀,為什麼李貞秀不是依照兩岸人民關係條例的權利來參政?
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transcript.gazette[27].text 你要參選、當選,必須在當選之前必須放棄國籍,當選之後的一年你要完成……
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transcript.gazette[28].speaker 廖委員先翔
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transcript.gazette[28].text 對,我順著您的法理……
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transcript.gazette[29].speaker 卓院長榮泰
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transcript.gazette[29].text 這個有規定的,你不要放著這個規定不去執行啊!
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transcript.gazette[30].speaker 廖委員先翔
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transcript.gazette[30].text 我順著您的法理,他有外國國籍嘛!
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transcript.gazette[31].text 稅籍有稅法……
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transcript.gazette[32].speaker 廖委員先翔
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transcript.gazette[32].text 稅法一樣啊!
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transcript.gazette[33].speaker 廖委員先翔
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transcript.gazette[33].text 所得稅額基本條例第十二條有規範非中華民國來源所得,那就可以依照第十二條來辦嘛!
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transcript.gazette[34].speaker 廖委員先翔
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transcript.gazette[34].text 為什麼我們在大陸的所得不能夠依照第十二條來辦呢?
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transcript.gazette[35].speaker 廖委員先翔
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transcript.gazette[35].text 我們的法律見解應該要一致吧!
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transcript.gazette[36].speaker 莊部長翠雲
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transcript.gazette[36].text 跟委員說明一下……
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transcript.gazette[37].speaker 廖委員先翔
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transcript.gazette[37].guessed
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transcript.gazette[37].text 我剛剛已經有先講我不認同你們的見解,但就算我不認同,我也依照您的法律見解來探討除了李貞秀案的其他課稅問題。
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transcript.gazette[38].start 2026-04-28T11:05:30.736000+08:00
transcript.gazette[38].guessed
transcript.gazette[38].end 2026-04-28T11:05:36.081000+08:00
transcript.gazette[38].text 委員,對於我們的講法,你可以有不同的主張或是討論……
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transcript.gazette[39].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[39].start 2026-04-28T11:05:36.081000+08:00
transcript.gazette[39].guessed 1
transcript.gazette[39].end 2026-04-28T11:05:37.081000+08:00
transcript.gazette[39].text 對,但我還是順著您的見解來討論這件事情。
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transcript.gazette[40].start 2026-04-28T11:05:36.081000+08:00
transcript.gazette[40].guessed
transcript.gazette[40].end 2026-04-28T11:05:42.665000+08:00
transcript.gazette[40].text 但是國籍法對於參選人資格的規定是明文寫在裡面的……
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transcript.gazette[41].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[41].start 2026-04-28T11:05:43.006000+08:00
transcript.gazette[41].guessed
transcript.gazette[41].end 2026-04-28T11:05:45.590000+08:00
transcript.gazette[41].text 我尊重您的見解,不用一直跳回來,我就尊重您的見解……好啊!
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transcript.gazette[42].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[42].start 2026-04-28T11:05:47.233000+08:00
transcript.gazette[42].guessed
transcript.gazette[42].end 2026-04-28T11:05:52.181000+08:00
transcript.gazette[42].text 為什麼我們臺灣人在外國的所得沒有辦法依照所得稅額基本條例第十二條來處理?
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transcript.gazette[43].speaker 卓院長榮泰
transcript.gazette[43].start 2026-04-28T11:05:52.181000+08:00
transcript.gazette[43].guessed
transcript.gazette[43].end 2026-04-28T11:05:52.461000+08:00
transcript.gazette[43].text 這個剛剛部長說過,兩岸人民關係條例另有規定啊!
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transcript.gazette[44].speaker 莊部長翠雲
transcript.gazette[44].start 2026-04-28T11:05:52.461000+08:00
transcript.gazette[44].guessed 1
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transcript.gazette[44].text 我想稅法的規定以及課稅的原則……
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transcript.gazette[45].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[45].start 2026-04-28T11:05:57.100000+08:00
transcript.gazette[45].guessed
transcript.gazette[45].end 2026-04-28T11:06:00.943000+08:00
transcript.gazette[45].text 參政也是一樣兩岸人民關係條例另有規定啊!
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transcript.gazette[46].speaker 廖委員先翔
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transcript.gazette[46].guessed
transcript.gazette[46].end 2026-04-28T11:06:09.108000+08:00
transcript.gazette[46].text 如果大陸地區的什麼事情都用兩岸人民關係條例來講的話,那自然不會有國籍法的問題嘛!
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transcript.gazette[47].guessed
transcript.gazette[47].end 2026-04-28T11:06:14.911000+08:00
transcript.gazette[47].text 但既然我們扯到其他法了,那就代表大陸籍人士也可以用其他法,對不對?沒有……
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transcript.gazette[48].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[48].start 2026-04-28T11:06:15.252000+08:00
transcript.gazette[48].guessed
transcript.gazette[48].end 2026-04-28T11:06:18.274000+08:00
transcript.gazette[48].text 參政可以依國籍法,為什麼繳稅不能依所得基本稅額條例?
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transcript.gazette[49].speaker 卓院長榮泰
transcript.gazette[49].start 2026-04-28T11:06:19.740000+08:00
transcript.gazette[49].guessed
transcript.gazette[49].end 2026-04-28T11:06:23.962000+08:00
transcript.gazette[49].text 國籍法規定就職之前必須放棄。對啊!
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transcript.gazette[50].speaker 廖委員先翔
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transcript.gazette[50].guessed 1
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transcript.gazette[50].text 我就尊重了嘛,就順著你的法理啊!對啊!
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transcript.gazette[51].speaker 卓院長榮泰
transcript.gazette[51].start 2026-04-28T11:06:23.962000+08:00
transcript.gazette[51].guessed
transcript.gazette[51].end 2026-04-28T11:06:27.203000+08:00
transcript.gazette[51].text 這是明文規定,有什麼好爭執的呢?
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transcript.gazette[52].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[52].start 2026-04-28T11:06:27.704000+08:00
transcript.gazette[52].guessed
transcript.gazette[52].end 2026-04-28T11:06:31.245000+08:00
transcript.gazette[52].text 大陸籍人民可以適用國籍法,對不對?
transcript.gazette[52].quality 1
transcript.gazette[53].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[53].start 2026-04-28T11:06:31.245000+08:00
transcript.gazette[53].guessed
transcript.gazette[53].end 2026-04-28T11:06:35.827000+08:00
transcript.gazette[53].text 那為什麼我們的國外所得、非中華民國來源所得不能適用所得稅額基本條例?
transcript.gazette[53].quality 0.5
transcript.gazette[54].speaker 卓院長榮泰
transcript.gazette[54].start 2026-04-28T11:06:35.887000+08:00
transcript.gazette[54].guessed
transcript.gazette[54].end 2026-04-28T11:06:37.228000+08:00
transcript.gazette[54].text 稅的部分另外有稅的規定,選舉有選舉的規定啊!
transcript.gazette[54].quality 1
transcript.gazette[55].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[55].start 2026-04-28T11:06:40.974000+08:00
transcript.gazette[55].guessed
transcript.gazette[55].end 2026-04-28T11:06:58.601000+08:00
transcript.gazette[55].text 我只是想要提醒一下院長,兩岸的關係當然是特別的,當您決定要把一件事情從兩岸關係條例裡面把它抽出來,那就會造成很多其他的問題。
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transcript.gazette[56].speaker 卓院長榮泰
transcript.gazette[56].start 2026-04-28T11:06:58.601000+08:00
transcript.gazette[56].guessed 1
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transcript.gazette[56].text 並不是我們抽出來,而是明文規定在那裡啊!
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transcript.gazette[57].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[57].start 2026-04-28T11:06:58.741000+08:00
transcript.gazette[57].guessed
transcript.gazette[57].end 2026-04-28T11:07:03.523000+08:00
transcript.gazette[57].text 像我今天所提的所得稅額基本條例,這只是其中一個問題而已。
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transcript.gazette[58].guessed 1
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transcript.gazette[58].text 如何課稅有如何課稅的規定。
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transcript.gazette[59].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[59].start 2026-04-28T11:07:03.523000+08:00
transcript.gazette[59].guessed
transcript.gazette[59].end 2026-04-28T11:07:09.266000+08:00
transcript.gazette[59].text 如果你把它當作國外,那為什麼它不能比照其他的國外來課稅呢?
transcript.gazette[59].quality 1
transcript.gazette[60].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[60].start 2026-04-28T11:07:09.266000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[60].text 院長,我想這個問題你已經非常清楚了。
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transcript.gazette[61].speaker 卓院長榮泰
transcript.gazette[61].start 2026-04-28T11:07:10.326000+08:00
transcript.gazette[61].guessed
transcript.gazette[61].end 2026-04-28T11:07:15.708000+08:00
transcript.gazette[61].text 如何課稅有如何課稅的規定,如何選舉公職有如何選舉公職的規定,這些規定是不一樣的。
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transcript.gazette[62].text 院長,我想我點出了一個問題,這是兩岸現在的問題,也是政府要面對的問題,雖然我剛剛說我不認同您的法律見解,但是依照您的法律見解,在執行中華民國法律的時候,在其他法條上面就會出現其他問題,所以就麻煩院長……
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transcript.gazette[63].speaker 卓院長榮泰
transcript.gazette[63].start 2026-04-28T11:07:31.373000+08:00
transcript.gazette[63].guessed
transcript.gazette[63].end 2026-04-28T11:07:34.154000+08:00
transcript.gazette[63].text 委員可以不認同,但是你不能不認定法律的條文。
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transcript.gazette[64].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[64].start 2026-04-28T11:07:34.950000+08:00
transcript.gazette[64].guessed
transcript.gazette[64].end 2026-04-28T11:07:36.150000+08:00
transcript.gazette[64].text 我剛剛就講我認同你了,你還一直……
transcript.gazette[64].quality 0.5
transcript.gazette[65].speaker 卓院長榮泰
transcript.gazette[65].start 2026-04-28T11:07:37.210000+08:00
transcript.gazette[65].guessed
transcript.gazette[65].end 2026-04-28T11:07:38.651000+08:00
transcript.gazette[65].text 法律條文你也要認同啊!
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transcript.gazette[66].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[66].start 2026-04-28T11:07:39.451000+08:00
transcript.gazette[66].guessed
transcript.gazette[66].end 2026-04-28T11:07:42.212000+08:00
transcript.gazette[66].text 所以要跳回來,為什麼不能當作國外所得?
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transcript.gazette[67].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[67].start 2026-04-28T11:07:43.032000+08:00
transcript.gazette[67].guessed
transcript.gazette[67].end 2026-04-28T11:07:45.412000+08:00
transcript.gazette[67].text 這是我們要思考的一個法律問題。
transcript.gazette[67].quality 1
transcript.gazette[68].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[68].start 2026-04-28T11:07:45.412000+08:00
transcript.gazette[68].guessed
transcript.gazette[68].end 2026-04-28T11:07:54.094000+08:00
transcript.gazette[68].text 好,下面的事情你可以比較放心了,你不用再那麼緊張地討論一些有關兩岸的事情。
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transcript.gazette[69].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[69].start 2026-04-28T11:07:58.735000+08:00
transcript.gazette[69].guessed
transcript.gazette[69].end 2026-04-28T11:08:13.260000+08:00
transcript.gazette[69].text 關於我們棒球的發展,在遠雄大巨蛋開幕之後,那是一個里程碑,其實國內的棒球迷或者是球團還有下一個里程碑,您猜猜看是什麼?
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transcript.gazette[70].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[70].start 2026-04-28T11:08:13.260000+08:00
transcript.gazette[70].guessed
transcript.gazette[70].end 2026-04-28T11:08:14.362000+08:00
transcript.gazette[70].text 主要是有關於球場的建置。球場……
transcript.gazette[70].quality 0.538
transcript.gazette[71].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[71].start 2026-04-28T11:08:16.765000+08:00
transcript.gazette[71].guessed
transcript.gazette[71].end 2026-04-28T11:08:29.270000+08:00
transcript.gazette[71].text 就是自建球場,現在我們所有球團所使用的球場都是跟政府租,或者是跟政府去做OT,甚至大巨蛋也算是租的,只是變成民間的,對不對?
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transcript.gazette[72].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[72].start 2026-04-28T11:08:29.270000+08:00
transcript.gazette[72].guessed
transcript.gazette[72].end 2026-04-28T11:08:49.163000+08:00
transcript.gazette[72].text 這就變成球團對於球場的主導權常常是不夠的,導致在使用上面會出現問題,比如前一陣子臺南亞太球場發生一些爭議,那就會變成球團有很多事情沒有辦法完全按照自己的想法來做一些規範。
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transcript.gazette[73].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[73].start 2026-04-28T11:08:49.163000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[73].end 2026-04-28T11:09:05.449000+08:00
transcript.gazette[73].text 比照國外就有不同的做法,我們可以看一下國外的情況,這張圖片是日本北海道的一個球場,因為他們跟地方政府的關係不好,所以他們搬家了,他們搬到另外一個地方,然後自建了一個球場。
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transcript.gazette[74].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[74].start 2026-04-28T11:09:06.490000+08:00
transcript.gazette[74].guessed
transcript.gazette[74].end 2026-04-28T11:09:13.209000+08:00
transcript.gazette[74].text 這在美國其實更加盛行,美國球團自建球場已經是非常平常的事情了。
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transcript.gazette[75].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[75].start 2026-04-28T11:09:14.030000+08:00
transcript.gazette[75].guessed
transcript.gazette[75].end 2026-04-28T11:09:29.462000+08:00
transcript.gazette[75].text 我想在這邊先暫停一下,我先請教部長,你可不可以跟院長報告一下,如果我們的球團自建球場,有關自建球場的資本折舊,按照現行規定應該怎麼算?
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transcript.gazette[76].speaker 莊部長翠雲
transcript.gazette[76].start 2026-04-28T11:09:31.523000+08:00
transcript.gazette[76].guessed
transcript.gazette[76].end 2026-04-28T11:09:36.507000+08:00
transcript.gazette[76].text 關於這個部分,針對你提的這個個案,第一個,球團要自建球場是以什麼樣的模式?
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transcript.gazette[77].speaker 莊部長翠雲
transcript.gazette[77].start 2026-04-28T11:09:36.708000+08:00
transcript.gazette[77].guessed
transcript.gazette[77].end 2026-04-28T11:09:42.529000+08:00
transcript.gazette[77].text 比如以臺北大巨蛋來說,它是透過促參BOT的方式來做。
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transcript.gazette[78].speaker 莊部長翠雲
transcript.gazette[78].start 2026-04-28T11:09:43.269000+08:00
transcript.gazette[78].guessed
transcript.gazette[78].end 2026-04-28T11:09:50.332000+08:00
transcript.gazette[78].text 至於您提到球團整個費用怎麼支付,我想相關法規裡面都有明確的規定,但這個部分我現在手邊沒有資料。
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transcript.gazette[79].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[79].start 2026-04-28T11:09:52.193000+08:00
transcript.gazette[79].guessed
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transcript.gazette[79].text 我查過資料,大概是每年1.5%的折舊率,所以大概要60年左右的時間才能夠完全攤提掉這個成本,國外的做法是怎麼樣,我們可以參考一下,美國與日本其實都突破稅法上的限制,因為一開始球團興建的時候會有大額的投資,這個投資如果要分60年才能攤提完的話,對於未來稅負的減免,其實要花很長的時間才能夠把這個稅負減免完,再加上通貨膨脹,折抵的稅率比率就更低了。
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transcript.gazette[80].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[80].start 2026-04-28T11:10:27.669000+08:00
transcript.gazette[80].guessed
transcript.gazette[80].end 2026-04-28T11:10:40.232000+08:00
transcript.gazette[80].text 球隊要自建球場當然有很多很多的因素,但我們今天在討論財政議題,自建球場有一個很大的因素,也是在國外就看到了,就是折舊率的算法有沒有辦法參考美國或日本?
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transcript.gazette[81].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[81].start 2026-04-28T11:10:40.592000+08:00
transcript.gazette[81].guessed
transcript.gazette[81].end 2026-04-28T11:10:53.516000+08:00
transcript.gazette[81].text 他們在第一年就給予100%的折舊,讓球團在一開始初期的時候就有比較多的現金流能夠作為支撐及營運,這樣子的想法不曉得院長的看法呢?
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transcript.gazette[82].speaker 莊部長翠雲
transcript.gazette[82].start 2026-04-28T11:10:56.277000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[82].text 委員提出這樣的議題,其實我覺得我們可以事後再來做討論及研議,至於折舊率怎麼算,在會計作業上的規定是有國際規範,以及在稅法上怎麼規定,我覺得可以再做進一步的討論和了解。
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transcript.gazette[83].start 2026-04-28T11:11:12.280000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[83].text 院長,聽完部長的說明之後,你的想法怎麼樣?
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transcript.gazette[84].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[84].start 2026-04-28T11:11:15.580000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[84].text 我沒有要政府掏錢,完全是民間自己去做,未來體育發展勢必會朝美國和日本這樣,球團自建球場,這就是未來會遇到的其中一個問題,我們現在能不能及早地來討論,讓球團有更高的意願,無論是在經營上面或者是滿足球迷方面,在稅法上面有多一點的彈性?
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transcript.gazette[85].speaker 卓院長榮泰
transcript.gazette[85].start 2026-04-28T11:11:37.874000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[85].end 2026-04-28T11:11:54.678000+08:00
transcript.gazette[85].text 折舊的折算通常也是一個企業的財務裡面重要的結構,表示它的財產能夠穩固而且長遠,如果一時間全部折算,對企業的好處到底是全面的嗎?
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transcript.gazette[86].text 這個也應該要考量。
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transcript.gazette[87].speaker 廖委員先翔
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transcript.gazette[87].text 一開始假設我投入了一個金額、10億好了,10億在第一年、第二年就可以去折抵企業的支出,那就可以扣掉我的盈餘,如果第一年就能抵掉的話,我的盈餘繳稅就會變少,是這樣的概念。
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transcript.gazette[88].end 2026-04-28T11:12:17.868000+08:00
transcript.gazette[88].text 它本身要有相當的條件,它的財力要很雄厚等等。
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transcript.gazette[89].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[89].start 2026-04-28T11:12:18.389000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[89].end 2026-04-28T11:12:24.012000+08:00
transcript.gazette[89].text 對,當然要財力很雄厚才會來蓋球場,如國內中信,還是一些大的球團都很多。
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transcript.gazette[90].speaker 卓院長榮泰
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transcript.gazette[90].end 2026-04-28T11:12:37.460000+08:00
transcript.gazette[90].text 這個再請財政部跟專家學者好好研議一下,我們期待的是一個長遠的、安定的,大家都認為合理的,而且對產業是有力的,政府可以多一些支持的力道,這個是可以的。
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transcript.gazette[91].start 2026-04-28T11:12:38.901000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[91].end 2026-04-28T11:12:56.853000+08:00
transcript.gazette[91].text 所以我也可以理解成院長願意針對這個課題來探討,後續是不是就責成財政部協同運動部來跟球團探討一下,這樣的方向會不會對於未來運動產業的發展是有更正面的幫助,可以朝這樣的方向嗎?院長。
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transcript.gazette[92].end 2026-04-28T11:13:18.897000+08:00
transcript.gazette[92].text 讓財稅制度更合理化一直是政府跟民間共同的期待,我們經過很長的努力,現在我們有一套穩固的方式,但是當然其中能夠更進步、更符合產業的需要,也更符合政府對業界的支持,這個方向財政部都可以跟專家、業界共同討論。
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transcript.gazette[93].start 2026-04-28T11:13:18.897000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[93].end 2026-04-28T11:13:27.501000+08:00
transcript.gazette[93].text 這件事情老實講不是財政部的責任,但是財政部可以從某一個角度來協助國內的體育發展,再麻煩院長跟部長。
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transcript.gazette[94].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[94].start 2026-04-28T11:13:27.621000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[94].end 2026-04-28T11:13:32.103000+08:00
transcript.gazette[94].text 我要進入下一個議題,部長可以先請回,請金管會彭主委。
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transcript.gazette[95].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[95].start 2026-04-28T11:13:33.744000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[95].text 這幾天大家討論比較多的就是零股交易,前兩、三天金管會說零股交易可能從9時10分提前至9時,可不可以趁今天這個機會說明一下我們現在的方向,以及目前不開放一些融資、金融槓桿操作或者是全面零股的原因是什麼?
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transcript.gazette[96].speaker 彭主任委員金隆
transcript.gazette[96].start 2026-04-28T11:13:57.279000+08:00
transcript.gazette[96].guessed
transcript.gazette[96].end 2026-04-28T11:14:13.270000+08:00
transcript.gazette[96].text 謝謝委員,也謝謝委員讓我有這個機會再跟大家做說明,主要是臺灣的資本市場從今天來看已經是大概第六或第七,我們要觀看國際上面一個國際級的資本市場該怎麼做,我們就會朝這個方向來研議。
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transcript.gazette[97].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[97].start 2026-04-28T11:14:13.390000+08:00
transcript.gazette[97].guessed
transcript.gazette[97].end 2026-04-28T11:14:15.352000+08:00
transcript.gazette[97].text 美國已經全面零股交易了,對不對?
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transcript.gazette[98].speaker 彭主任委員金隆
transcript.gazette[98].start 2026-04-28T11:14:15.352000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[98].end 2026-04-28T11:14:48.446000+08:00
transcript.gazette[98].text 對,因為過去我們都是以千股為交易的方式,零股交易確實在後面我們陸陸續續比如讓撮合時間更有效率,避免價差,我們也評估過,再來就是我們很多的個股價值已經高過百元、千元,甚至萬元,這樣零股其實金額也滿大的,所以我們儘量維持對所有投資人都公平,我們開始去優化這個過程,我們也逐步在做,第一個就是讓交易時間還有交易撮合的效率儘量跟整股是一樣的。
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transcript.gazette[99].guessed
transcript.gazette[99].end 2026-04-28T11:14:50.007000+08:00
transcript.gazette[99].text 這個部分是確定要執行的,對不對?
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transcript.gazette[100].speaker 彭主任委員金隆
transcript.gazette[100].start 2026-04-28T11:14:51.028000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[100].end 2026-04-28T11:14:56.032000+08:00
transcript.gazette[100].text 我們是朝比較正向去做,因為這部分的可行性比較高,而且是……
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transcript.gazette[101].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[101].start 2026-04-28T11:14:56.852000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[101].end 2026-04-28T11:15:01.676000+08:00
transcript.gazette[101].text 券商如果因為成本的關係可能不太支持,這會是我們考量的因素嗎?
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transcript.gazette[102].speaker 廖委員先翔
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transcript.gazette[102].end 2026-04-28T11:15:07.054000+08:00
transcript.gazette[102].text 還是我們會站在民間交易者的角度來看這件事情?
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transcript.gazette[103].speaker 彭主任委員金隆
transcript.gazette[103].start 2026-04-28T11:15:07.114000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[103].text 謝謝委員。
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transcript.gazette[104].speaker 彭主任委員金隆
transcript.gazette[104].start 2026-04-28T11:15:07.795000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[104].end 2026-04-28T11:15:31.333000+08:00
transcript.gazette[104].text 特別是在一個資本市場裡面,除了投資人及中介人,比如券商,還有交易所,這些都要考量,但剛才講的是把零股交易的方式儘量跟整股交易模式整成一樣,比如說,改成一股交易又是不一樣,改成一股交易的問題就比較大了,所以我們要持續來研議。
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transcript.gazette[105].start 2026-04-28T11:15:31.333000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[105].text 好,所以方向是確定的,沒有問題。
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transcript.gazette[106].speaker 彭主任委員金隆
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transcript.gazette[106].text 對,優化交易的模式是確定的。
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transcript.gazette[107].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[107].start 2026-04-28T11:15:35.216000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[107].text 另外,在融資方面或者金融槓桿方面,或者是當沖……
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transcript.gazette[108].speaker 彭主任委員金隆
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transcript.gazette[108].text 我們也在研究。
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transcript.gazette[109].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[109].start 2026-04-28T11:15:40.800000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[109].text 之前新聞稿好像是不太支持,所以我們現在的態度是?
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transcript.gazette[110].speaker 彭主任委員金隆
transcript.gazette[110].start 2026-04-28T11:15:44.162000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[110].text 因為主要是這樣,比如說,我們以當沖或是槓桿來講,假設過去金額那麼小,其實它的需要性也不大,但是我剛才講過,臺灣的股市現在已經到達這樣的規模,很多的個股已經這樣……
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transcript.gazette[111].start 2026-04-28T11:15:58.734000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[111].text 對,比較大呀!
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transcript.gazette[112].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[112].start 2026-04-28T11:15:58.734000+08:00
transcript.gazette[112].guessed
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transcript.gazette[112].text 高單價的股價。
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transcript.gazette[113].speaker 彭主任委員金隆
transcript.gazette[113].start 2026-04-28T11:15:59.274000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[113].text 對,所以我也責成我們兩個交易所也針對這部分……
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transcript.gazette[114].speaker 廖委員先翔
transcript.gazette[114].start 2026-04-28T11:16:03.278000+08:00
transcript.gazette[114].guessed
transcript.gazette[114].end 2026-04-28T11:16:04.959000+08:00
transcript.gazette[114].text 所以目前沒有完全否定這個方案,還在進行研究?
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transcript.gazette[115].speaker 彭主任委員金隆
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transcript.gazette[115].end 2026-04-28T11:16:08.642000+08:00
transcript.gazette[115].text 這兩個我們沒有完全否定,這本來就是我們邁向國際級的資本市場隨時都要去檢討的。
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transcript.gazette[116].speaker 廖委員先翔
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transcript.gazette[116].end 2026-04-28T11:16:20.637000+08:00
transcript.gazette[116].text 目前就是從交易制度上面,先從零股比照傳統股市的時間以及交割方式、撮合方式。
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transcript.gazette[117].speaker 廖委員先翔
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transcript.gazette[117].end 2026-04-28T11:16:28.864000+08:00
transcript.gazette[117].text 第二步,我們繼續來研究金融槓桿、融資或當沖方面,目前還沒有完全的拒絕,還在研究當中。
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transcript.gazette[118].text 我們對所有制度都持開放的態度,因為我們還是要考慮到剛才講的,我們在過去都做了很多說明,效益一定要大於成本跟風險,我們才會做。
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transcript.gazette[119].text 好,謝謝院長、謝謝主委。
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transcript.gazette[120].speaker 卓院長榮泰
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transcript.gazette[120].text 謝謝委員。
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transcript.gazette[121].speaker 主席
transcript.gazette[121].start 2026-04-28T11:16:43.239000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[121].end 2026-04-28T11:16:46.442000+08:00
transcript.gazette[121].text 謝謝廖委員、謝謝卓院長。
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transcript.gazette[122].speaker 主席
transcript.gazette[122].start 2026-04-28T11:16:46.442000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[122].end 2026-04-28T11:16:48.224000+08:00
transcript.gazette[122].text 下一位我們請沈發惠委員質詢。
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