| IVOD_ID |
168821 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168821 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-26-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-23T12:22:52+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-23T12:32:14+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:22 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a0a6b12795be5442262560f035656d026e07bf52eec0dd4908965b28c46199cc6c52fa203661293f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
楊瓊瓔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:22:52 - 12:32:14 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請衛生福利部部長、教育部、法務部就「脆弱家庭兒少支持服務及兒少保護個案處遇之跨體系協作與銜接機制檢討」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【4月22日及23日二天一次會】） |
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在你們今天的報告書當中,6月的專案報告我仔細看過了但是你們說了你們整合了34項的跨網絡的資訊系統也召開了很多次的會議 |
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但是這份報告報道我想全國年輕的父母他最關心最恐懼的是什麼呢你們沒有提出來也就是針對於社會安全網的這個部分不適任保姆跟不良安置機構這些的黑名單在這個報告當中都沒有 |
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在這個報導當中都沒有那你們說要確保兒少順利的一個銜接結果把孩子是銜接到哪裡去呢到有孽童記錄換個名字他一樣趙雲燕這樣子怎麼叫順利銜接呢最近發生了這麼多的這些事件所以本席要請教今天的專案報告非常好而且他的名稱很長叫做什麼脆弱家庭兒少支持服務及銜接機制 |
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的一個檢討這個是今天的主題那所以我想如果有以通話白話文來講就是說全國人民想要問的可能就只有兩句話為什麼有政府認證的保姆 |
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跟這個機構還是會有虐童那每次出事情的時候都是我們的基層社工員員要出來做祭祈這不公平啊這不公平所以您剛才說了今天下午你要開始來跟他們對話 |
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甚至如果因為大家工作很多到各區大家來做這個對話跟做溝通跟做鼓勵那所以你認為目前我們這些的機制及格嗎跟委員說明對於這個消極條件就是不適任的我們在有一個CRC專區資訊專區凡是違反了兒少法或者是這個幼保法等等的這些都可以查詢得到 |
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所以在任用的時候或者是這個家長也可以上我們這個專區去查詢這些所謂過去曾經有觸犯到這個兒少法等等的那另外在這個事件之後呢我們對於這個安置的這個條件也做了改變那未來我們還有很多的這個修法會納入在平建的制度裡頭平建制度就成為我們剛才說的 |
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他不是只有紙上作業 他寫得很好你就歐帕 你要想就是說你們也說了無預警的一個訪視還有你們的評鑑機制所以我個人認為評鑑機制不是只有紙上作業嘛你要真正實際 好 你無預警的訪視我個人要請教 孩子衣服下的歐氣被虐打 |
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有如此去仿似嗎我想這個也是我們在這個改善中也包含進來就是對於這個人員的訓練敏感度的提升等等這些我們也會融入在我們的這個改善的這個計劃裡頭所以當你認為你說這個保姆他是有記錄的可是他換了一個名字家人他一樣照顧 |
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不會 因為他有個人身份的資料上是會被identify是他的家人換了一個名字不是他本人 相關人但是實際上還是這個在照顧也會被查到嘛如果是共同居住的人會被查到才對不共同居住呢 |
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不共同居置才是我們的黑戶所在啊部長我們今天討論這個重點是在此有問題的時候我們要怎麼樣去處理他的相關人他換了一個名字就另外人申請還是一樣他在照顧那這怎麼辦我請同仁說明一下詳細的 |
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跟委員報告我們的保姆要職業都要跟地方主管機關申請很清楚本期剛才所說的如果是他的共同居住之人他也要申請登記符合資格他才能收孩子那不然的話本期告訴你的就是說我跟人告訴你的現況當然是別人申請你才會准他嘛符合資格嘛但是不是這一個申請人在照顧 |
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是一樣虐童的這個保姆在照顧 這怎麼辦你發現了這個事情怎麼辦後台裡面會有ID 透過ID可以勾結這個人有沒有被通報惡虐的記錄部長 本期提出現況 |
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部長本席提出現況我希望你能夠好好的去討論社會上真正需要協助的這個問題這個非常重要這個剛剛委員所提的這個就是怪羊頭賣狗肉啦對對對你講的就對了這個申請啦但是是這個過去被處分過的人 |
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所以這個我們要嚴懲你們要有機制 一定要嚴懲要怎麼樣 終生不可以靠近這個產業同不同意 這樣子終生不得靠近這個產業我覺得你們必須要有這樣子的一個機制出來那第二點就是我希望你們去建構全國統一兒保避雷查詢系統 |
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這個非常重要因為在我們的資料裡頭我們看到兒少通報的案件112年是多少10萬件但是我們看到114年是13萬件它增長的是3萬件換句話說是三成但是你只有到末端是給社工我們事實上在討論社工的人員目前在第一線都一定沒有夠而且你要去招募這些本身也不夠 |
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所以你們又設置了一個什麼呢你們設置了一個通報調查處處理中心這些人誰做請教誰要做你有了這個資訊然後還要分類然後才看 |
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怎麼處理那請問你這些人員誰做13萬件114年那現在我不希望越多但是你的人力要怎麼去處理沒錯這個是一個重點就是剛剛委員提到的因為我們鼓勵通報讓這個通報量很大進來可是裡面很複雜對所以你要篩選嘛篩選要有人做請問要誰做你還是拉第一線的社工人去做嗎因為都不夠耶 |
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這個調查處理中心我們是希望導入多元的人力讓社工做他專業的那分案的部分呢我們用其他的人力來做協助所以不會全部都是其他的人力你重新招募嗎 |
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是不是不要跌床架因為他已經不夠人我要告訴你的是因為他們做的所以你現在大家AI導入什麼這些可以去運作部長因為 |
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中錯未入學的 你現在的機制怎麼做 你現在的機制就是說去通報給鄉鎮公所 公所去看了 看了之後再通報給給這個學校 學校之後再去找人去看 至少要一個禮拜兩個禮拜 |
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對不對 那你應該可以做一個統一啊衛福部你應該可以跟教育部相同的一個系統如果這個孩子沒到學校來 馬上紅燈亮起來你不用再有這些的通報啊不用旅行公文嘛 我們要的是接住孩子啊 |
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對 對不對 我們跟教育部有合作有合作對啊 那你的流程大概一到兩個禮拜啊孩子都不知道跑到哪裡去啦所以你們這些可以統一的一個系統孩子只要沒有到學校 你的紅燈就亮起來嘛你為什麼還要叫這個公所去找 找不到人再通報給學校他層層的在上這個公文呢 |
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把時間都拖延啊所以這個議題我請衛護部跟教育部這個是可以融合在一起做一個預警系統的你們去研擬好不好不要讓那個旅行公文一到兩個禮拜我們接不到孩子是心痛啊好不好 你多久時間你一個禮拜把研議的方案給我好 那多久 沒關係 多久 |
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一個月一個月通報出來好方案謝謝統一好謝謝謝謝楊瓊英委員那我就會服務 |
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謝謝主席，楊瓊瓔發言，邀請部長。 |
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請石部長。 |
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石部長崇良 |
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楊委員好。 |
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部長好。 |
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在你們今天的報告書當中，6月的專案報告我仔細看過了，你們說你們整合了34項跨網絡的資訊系統，也召開了很多次的會議，但是這份報告裡，全國年輕的父母最關心、最恐懼的部分你們卻沒有提出來，也就是針對於社會安全網的這個部分，不適任保母跟不良安置機構的黑名單在這個報告當中都沒有。 |
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你們說要確保兒少順利的銜接，結果是把孩子銜接到哪裡去呢？ |
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到有虐童紀錄的單位，換個名字，他照樣營業，這樣子怎麼叫順利銜接呢？ |
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最近發生了這麼多的事件，所以本席要請教，今天的專案報告非常好，而且名稱很長，叫做「脆弱家庭兒少支持服務及兒少保護個案處遇之跨體系協作與銜接機制檢討」，這個是今天的主題，如果以白話文來講，全國人民想要問的可能就只有兩句話，為什麼有政府認證的保母跟機構還是會有虐童？ |
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每次出事情的時候都是基層社工人員出來被祭旗，這不公平。 |
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您剛才說了，今天下午你要開始來跟他們對話，甚至如果因為大家工作很多，要到各區跟大家來做對話、溝通以及鼓勵，所以你認為目前我們這些機制及格嗎？ |
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石部長崇良 |
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跟委員說明，對於這個消極條件，就是不適任的，我們有一個CRC資訊專區，凡是違反兒少法或者是幼保法等等的，這些都可以查詢得到，所以在任用的時候，或者是家長也可以上我們這個專區去查詢這些過去曾經有觸犯到兒少法等等的情形。 |
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石部長崇良 |
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另外，在這個事件之後，我們對於安置的條件也做了改變，未來我們還有很多的修法會納入在評鑑的制度裡頭。 |
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評鑑制度就誠如我們剛才說的，它不是只有紙上作業，它寫得很好，你就all pass，你們也說做無預警的訪視，還有你們的評鑑機制，所以我個人認為評鑑機制不是只有紙上作業。對。 |
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2026-04-23T12:26:12.199000+08:00 |
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你要真正實際，有關無預警的訪視，我更要請教，孩子衣服下的黑青、被虐打，有如此去訪視嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0.811 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-04-23T12:26:12.199000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-04-23T12:26:24.968000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
我想這部分我們在改善中也包含進來，就是對於人員的訓練、敏感度的提升，等等這一些也會融入在我們的改善計畫裡頭。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-04-23T12:26:24.968000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-04-23T12:26:32.853000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
所以你說這個保母是有紀錄的，可是他換了一個名字、家人的名字，他一樣照顧？ |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.844 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-04-23T12:26:35.427000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-04-23T12:26:41.128000+08:00 |
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不會，因為他個人身分的資料上是會被identify、ID…… |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.885 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-04-23T12:26:41.708000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-04-23T12:26:53.531000+08:00 |
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你聽清楚，是他的家人換了一個名字，不是他本人，就是他相關人，但是實際上還是這一個人在照顧。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.775 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-04-23T12:26:53.531000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-04-23T12:26:58.612000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
也會被查到嘛，如果是共同居住的人會被查到才對。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-04-23T12:26:58.612000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-04-23T12:26:59.452000+08:00 |
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不共同居住呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-04-23T12:27:01.383000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-04-23T12:27:04.125000+08:00 |
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不共同居住才是我們的黑戶所在啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-04-23T12:27:05.026000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-04-23T12:27:20.198000+08:00 |
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部長，我們今天討論這個重點是指有問題的時候，我們要怎麼樣去處理，他的相關人換了一個名字，就是另外的人申請，還是一樣他在照顧，這怎麼辦？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-04-23T12:27:20.198000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-04-23T12:27:21.539000+08:00 |
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我請同仁詳細說明一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
簡組長杏蓉 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-23T12:27:23.038000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-04-23T12:27:28.781000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，我們的保母要執業都要跟地方主管機關申請合格登記。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-04-23T12:27:28.781000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-04-23T12:27:30.542000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
很清楚，本席剛才所說的…… |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
簡組長杏蓉 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-04-23T12:27:30.642000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-04-23T12:27:38.786000+08:00 |
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如果是他的共同居住之人，他也要申請登記、符合資格，他才能收孩子，不然的話…… |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-23T12:27:38.786000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-04-23T12:27:46.409000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
本席告訴你的就是現況，當然是別人申請，你才會准他、符合資格嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.963 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-04-23T12:27:46.949000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-04-23T12:27:54.616000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
但不是這個申請人在照顧，是一樣虐童的這個保母在照顧，這怎麼辦？ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-23T12:27:54.616000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-04-23T12:27:56.177000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
你發現這個事情要怎麼辦？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
簡組長杏蓉 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-23T12:27:56.177000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-04-23T12:28:01.423000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
我們在後台裡面會有ID，透過ID可以勾稽這個人有沒有被通報兒虐的紀錄。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.788 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-23T12:28:06.808000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-04-23T12:28:15.755000+08:00 |
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部長，本席提出現況，我希望你能夠好好去討論社會上真正需要協助的這個問題，這非常重要。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-23T12:28:15.875000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-04-23T12:28:17.576000+08:00 |
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對，剛剛委員所提的這個問題就是掛羊頭賣狗肉啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.81 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-23T12:28:17.596000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-04-23T12:28:17.776000+08:00 |
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對、對，你講這樣就對了。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-23T12:28:17.856000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-23T12:28:19.798000+08:00 |
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用他人名義申請，但卻是過去被處分過的人。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-23T12:28:19.798000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-23T12:28:28.904000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
對，如果發現了要怎麼辦？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-23T12:28:28.904000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-23T12:28:29.585000+08:00 |
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所以這個我們要嚴懲。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-23T12:28:29.585000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-23T12:28:29.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
你們要有機制，一定要嚴懲，要怎麼樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-23T12:28:29.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-23T12:28:30.365000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
終生不可以靠近這個產業，同不同意？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-23T12:28:30.365000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-23T12:28:31.365000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
對、同意。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-23T12:28:30.405000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-04-23T12:28:31.486000+08:00 |
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終生不得靠近這個產業，我覺得你們必須要有這樣子的一個機制出來。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.967 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-23T12:28:31.546000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-04-23T12:28:57.500000+08:00 |
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第二，我希望你們去建構全國統一兒保避雷查詢系統，這個非常重要，因為在我們的資料裡頭看到，兒少通報的案件112年是多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-23T12:28:58.180000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-04-23T12:29:21.671000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
10萬件，但是我們看到114年是13萬件，增長3萬件，換句話說是三成，但是你只有到末端是給社工，我們現在在討論目前在第一線的社工人員就已經不夠了，而且你要去招募的這些人力本身也不夠，所以你們又設置了什麼呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.828 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-23T12:29:22.271000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-04-23T12:29:27.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
你們設置了一個通報調查處理中心。對。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-23T12:29:27.253000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-04-23T12:29:27.853000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
這些人誰做？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-23T12:29:28.653000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-23T12:29:29.473000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
請教，誰要做？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-23T12:29:29.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-04-23T12:29:37.457000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
你有了這個資訊，然後還要分類，才看怎麼處理，請問這些人員誰做？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-23T12:29:39.138000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-04-23T12:29:44.301000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
114年13萬件，現在我不希望越來越多，但是你的人力要怎麼去處理？ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.88 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-23T12:29:44.821000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-04-23T12:29:54.366000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
沒錯，這是一個重點，剛剛委員提到的，因為我們鼓勵通報，進來的通報量很大，可是裡面很複雜…… |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.921 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-23T12:29:54.366000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-04-23T12:29:56.708000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
對，所以你要篩選嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-04-23T12:29:57.248000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-04-23T12:29:58.709000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
篩選要有人做，請教誰做？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-04-23T12:29:58.709000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-04-23T12:29:59.709000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
對，要篩選，有的是獨立個案…… |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-04-23T12:29:58.909000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-04-23T12:30:01.590000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
你還是拉第一線的社工人士去做嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-04-23T12:30:01.831000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-04-23T12:30:02.071000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
都不夠了。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-04-23T12:30:03.452000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-04-23T12:30:14.142000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
不會、不會，這個調查處理中心，我們是希望導入多元的人力，讓社工做他專業的部分，分案的部分我們用其他的人力來做協助，所以不會全部都是社工。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.869 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-04-23T12:30:14.482000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-04-23T12:30:16.043000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
其他的人力，你重新招募嗎？對、對。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-04-23T12:30:17.592000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-04-23T12:30:17.792000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-04-23T12:30:18.393000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-04-23T12:30:22.559000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
不要疊床架屋，因為已經不夠人，我要告訴你的是…… |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-04-23T12:30:22.559000+08:00 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-04-23T12:30:26.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
對、對，所以就是擴大人力來源…… |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.167 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-04-23T12:30:26.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-04-23T12:30:29.550000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
對，所以現在大家AI導入什麼的，這一些可以去運作。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.773 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-04-23T12:30:29.550000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-04-23T12:30:30.550000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
我們也在做這個事。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-04-23T12:30:29.690000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-04-23T12:30:35.736000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
部長，對於中輟未入學的部分，現在的機制怎麼做？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-04-23T12:30:36.056000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-04-23T12:30:50.981000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
你現在的機制就是去通報給鄉鎮公所，公所去看了，看了之後再通報給學校，學校之後再找人去看，至少要一、兩個禮拜，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-04-23T12:30:51.181000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-04-23T12:31:10.979000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
你應該可以統一，衛福部應該可以跟教育部用相同的系統，如果這個孩子沒到學校，馬上紅燈亮起來，你不用再有這一些的通報、不用公文旅行，我們要的是接住孩子，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.943 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-04-23T12:31:10.979000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-04-23T12:31:12.540000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
對，我們跟教育部有合作，這個我們跟教育部有合作！ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.429 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-04-23T12:31:14.222000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-04-23T12:31:33.778000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
有合作，對啊，你的流程大概要一到兩個禮拜，孩子都不知道跑到哪裡去了，所以你們可以統一一個系統，孩子只要沒有到學校，你的紅燈就亮起來，你為什麼還要叫公所去找，找不到人再通報給學校，還要層層再上公文呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-04-23T12:31:38.311000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-04-23T12:31:39.231000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
把時間都拖延了。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-04-23T12:31:39.231000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-04-23T12:31:43.493000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
楊委員，注意時間。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-04-23T12:31:43.493000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-04-23T12:31:52.195000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
所以我請衛福部和教育部，這個議題是可以融合在一起做一個預警系統的，你們去研擬，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-04-23T12:31:52.455000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-04-23T12:31:57.517000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
不要讓公文旅行一到兩個禮拜，我們接不到孩子是心痛啊，好不好？好。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.893 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-04-23T12:31:57.937000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-04-23T12:31:58.637000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
你多久時間？ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-04-23T12:31:58.777000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-04-23T12:32:00.918000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
一個禮拜把你們研議的方案給我。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-04-23T12:32:00.918000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-04-23T12:32:01.918000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
一個禮拜太…… |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-04-23T12:32:01.918000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-04-23T12:32:02.918000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
那多久？ |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-04-23T12:32:02.918000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-04-23T12:32:03.918000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
要跨三個單位。 |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-04-23T12:32:01.858000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-04-23T12:32:02.318000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
好，那多久？ |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-04-23T12:32:02.438000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-04-23T12:32:02.658000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
沒關係，多久？ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-04-23T12:32:06.039000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-04-23T12:32:06.259000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
一個月。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-04-23T12:32:06.880000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-04-23T12:32:09.301000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
好，一個月方案出來，謝謝。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-04-23T12:32:09.301000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-04-23T12:32:09.841000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
統一，好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-04-23T12:32:10.341000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-04-23T12:32:35.198143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
謝謝楊瓊瓔委員，我也要提醒一下衛福部，剛剛楊瓊瓔委員質詢的很重要，你們過去都是以戶籍同住，可是基本上如果若戶籍不在一起的時候，照樣住在那個家還是會產生楊瓊瓔委員提的那個問題、還是要去處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.08 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-04-23T12:32:35.498143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-04-23T12:32:39.212429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
接下來我們請陳昭姿委員發言。 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.077 |