| IVOD_ID |
168785 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168785 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-23T09:59:01+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-23T10:11:27+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:26 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a0a6b12795be5442b6dea82cdec4d9936726ceb1fc879916d3cfaf5c3773194de5986559e7e11f9b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林德福 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:59:01 - 10:11:27 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請財政部莊部長翠雲、農業部陳部長駿季、衛生福利部石部長崇良、行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿就「馬鈴薯輸入之邊境管制、檢疫、查驗等機制如何保障國人食品安全，及後市場抽驗預算執行情形」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案有關主計總處暨審計部、審計部臺北市審計處、審計部新北市審計處、審計部桃園市審計處、審計部臺中市審計處、審計部臺南市審計處、審計部高雄市審計處部分。（僅詢答）
三、審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案有關第27款直轄市及縣市政府第3項一般性補助款-財政部主管第1目財政部、第2目國庫署；第13項一般性補助款-其他第1至8目。災害準備金。第二預備金。（僅詢答）
【預算提案截止時間：4月23日（四）下午5時】） |
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謝謝主席是不是請陳審計長還有財政部的阮次長還有農業部的胡次長還有衛福部的莊次長 |
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還有食藥署的這個蔡副署長蔡副署長委員好那個審計長你好因為我國花生進口辣椒粉含工業用的蘇丹酮素等食安的事件危害國人的健康引發民眾的恐慌那審計部有提出這個專案審計報告同樣的道理 |
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本席也希望審計部針對馬鈴薯食品安全的議題進行一個專案調查從農業部、衛福部、馬鈴薯加工廠所在地地方的衛生局到底投入多少的預算設備確保民眾食品的安全尤其是實驗室的檢驗能量是否足夠 |
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本市是希望說省紀部啊會後啊能夠給我們所有立委啊一份書面的報告可以可以齁這個很重要按照過去這個衛教宣導都在告訴民眾勿食用花芽的馬鈴薯然而近期馬鈴薯的爭議啊許多網紅分享不正確的信息告訴民眾切掉花芽部分的還是可以食用 |
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那現任食藥署江志剛署長在2018年在台大當醫師的時候寫了一篇文章看見綠頭的薯條怎麼辦內容提到花芽的馬鈴薯龍葵鹼含量則在1000ppm其中花芽的馬鈴薯這個 |
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龍奎鹼含量更高達2000ppm可見啦專家都認為花芽馬鈴薯食安風險非常的高那我請問衛福部遇到花芽馬鈴薯建議民眾要如何處理衛福部有關花芽馬鈴薯一定是整顆丟棄不能使用 |
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要丟棄嘛那媒體報導說林口長庚醫院臨床毒物中心的主任顏忠海指出即使僅有少數馬鈴薯出現化藥的情形其所含的龍葵鹼 |
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能可能污染同批其他正常的馬鈴薯呼籲主管機關應要加強龍葵鹼的抽驗不管今天進口美國馬鈴薯是加工用的還是實用的最後都是到消費者的市場變成民眾吃下肚 |
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你不管是加工也好其他進口也好幾乎都是下渡那為何使用馬鈴薯輸入簡歷條件馬鈴薯花芽必須整批退運而加工的馬鈴薯花芽後卻換寬整批馬鈴薯有條件的進入加工廠處理你的看法勒 |
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報告委員現在的做法是這樣如果是農業部在邊境發現有發芽的馬鈴薯那他們會把這些發芽馬鈴薯剔掉那我們會針對這一批馬鈴薯會再去做抽驗這個有關龍葵檢 |
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那當然如果驗出超過200ppm就會整批退運本席是希望農業部跟衛福部要以民眾食品安全作為優先所以本席也希望說加工馬鈴薯花芽應該整批退運你不能留存因為留存以後都會到消費者身上讓他們來承擔食安的風險你認不認同這個有關花芽部分可能是農業部這邊 |
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對不對 你們要說清楚講明白啊花芽不代表就有龍葵茧因為那個必須要在經過花芽不代表就有龍葵茧因為花芽在0.5公分以內的話那個是 |
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都會被承認的日本人根本就不檢查有沒有花芽你不要講日本我們今天是針對我們食安食安的風險因為你為什麼整批進口加工就可以來做處理不加工的話你就是只要有花學它確實有龍奎鹼有花芽就要整批退這個裡面就是考量到為什麼食安是多重要啊 |
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對不對 不要把人民的那個健康來開玩笑沒有錯 我也是國民啦我的家人我的親友都是國民我們非常重視這一塊啦 |
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那在農業部的部分我們是防疫主要是說防疫就怕這些流入的馬鈴薯它流到田裡面又去種種的時候把國外的病人菌把它帶進來這個是我們所擔心的至於食品安全的話這個要麻煩衛福部來做回應本席先跟財政部跟農業部確認啦美國加工用的馬鈴薯在海關的貨品號 |
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列的號碼是不是07019000-003因為昨天我的助理有特別打電話去聯繫農業部的防檢署確認而農業部在4月15日衛防委員會書面報告裡面提到新檢疫條件2月6日 |
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實施到現在為止上有美國加工用的馬鈴薯輸入但是本期請助理查了一下上述貨品號列的馬鈴薯今年3月從美國進口的馬鈴薯數量有137公噸 |
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價值是221萬新台幣外界沒有辦法分辨哪些是加工用的馬鈴薯哪些是實用的馬鈴薯那我請問農業部跟財政部美國加工用與實用的馬鈴薯都在一個貨號如何來避免外界的誤判 |
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是 報告委員到目前為止美國進來全部都是現實用的都是生鮮的 沒有加工的那第二個我們也發現這個貨號是相同所以已經跟財政部提出申請相信在最近的這個時間以內財政部就會給我們分開 |
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那因為美國的這個加工用的這個馬鈴薯啊七月之後才會進口所以這一段期間我們應該財政部我們已經因為齁 人民很關心這個事情啊對對對 外面的都很關心因為根據媒體報導 衛福部對進口馬鈴薯目前才一般的抽批 查檢那抽驗率啊2%到10%而已那請 |
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這個衛福部分別說明美國食用與加工用的馬鈴薯依規定抽檢龍葵檢含量超過200ppm時會如何處置不管是否食用或加工都是整批退運或銷毀嗎包委員就是如果我們一旦驗到這個龍葵檢超過200ppm我們整批退運也就是說它一批裡面可能有三個貨櫃這三個貨櫃就是退運或銷毀一定不能進入到我們的市場 |
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因為人民非常重視就是這個食安的問題農業部房檢署邊境除批茶葉馬鈴薯打開貨櫃發現馬鈴薯花芽依現行的規定可封存然後運往加工廠若該批馬鈴薯食藥署沒有抽到茶葉 |
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農業部是否會通知食藥署去補查驗該批馬鈴薯的龍奎檢到底有沒有超標會不會因為如果龍奎檢超標那請問各主管機關你們要如何處理 |
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就是我們會驗龍奎檢重金屬跟農藥殘留這三項只要超標就一定退運或銷毀我是希望說這個要嚴謹農業黃檢署打開貨櫃沒有發現馬鈴薯花芽但是藥署抽到要檢驗龍奎檢請問該批馬鈴薯是否需等化驗後出爐才能將整批貨櫃送往加工廠加工 |
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對 一定要等他 的確沒有超過兩百多億因為現在的老百姓他們非常非常關心有關於馬鈴薯的融回錢因為這個跟很多民眾在吃馬鈴薯以後到底會不會產生食安的問題我認為這個是非常非常重要我希望各行政官員本著良心 |
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自己吃才能讓一般的老百姓吃啦你不要說因為我檢驗的時候然後這個上面規定怎麼樣我要是去放寬然後到最後出問題那時候汪洋補勞都來不及了啦我們要事前去杜絕緩緩那這個最後一個議題關於中央政府永續發展政府的債券目前看來財政部啊 |
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115年115第一期的公債金門大學校舍興建外發行金額為新台幣4億元年期為30年那我請問財政部115年是否還有其他計畫會發行永續發展的債券 |
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我們除了金門大學的這個永續艦的發行之外另外我們就是高雄的航空站那金額是790億那我們現在在福島他能夠發行永續載 |
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那這部分我們會積極來推動目前除了中央之外我們也希望地方政府能夠加入來發行所以現在目前中央跟地方已經發行了大概345億所以未來我們會跟金管會還有櫃買中心我們合作尋找相關案員來發行相關的永續債好 這樣我了解其實剛剛前一位委員所講的有一些我都聽不下去 |
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大家都很清楚 沈記長那個竹記長你上來我請教你你那個電會說電梯沒有電沒有電會可以支運可能嗎那是經常門啊你就是預算沒有過一樣可以發會啊那個都是在騙老百姓不是他如果沒有編預算就不能沒有編預算拜託電會沒有編預算你每年都編了沒有編預算 |
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經常門欸那不是資本門欸對不對你組計長你做那麼久難道連這一點你都不懂嗎對不對因為他業務全部被減的百分之九十七啦九十七啦去年的時候經常門都可以用去年用的今年都可以用 |
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對不對 你就是預算沒有過也可以用大家心知肚明 對不對 不要騙老百姓經常門啦 你的水電 該用的 本來經常門就可以用資本門我不敢講經常門主要是人事費和業務費為大宗啦那再來譬如說 |
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店會沒有嗎所以他可以留用的部分你這個店會沒有嗎你大宗的被減掉很多債不要去扭曲啦店會每年固定編的你喔身為組織長你一定要講實話讓老百姓清楚我們是針對問題不要去扭曲去騙我們沒有扭曲啦好不好謝謝 |
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謝謝主席，是不是請陳審計長、財政部阮次長、農業部胡次長、衛福部莊次長，還有食藥署蔡副署長？ |
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請審計長、阮次長、胡次長、莊次長、蔡副署長。 |
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陳審計長瑞敏 |
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委員好。 |
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林委員德福 |
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審計長，你好。 |
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因為我國發生進口辣椒粉含工業用蘇丹紅素等食安事件，危害國人健康，引發民眾恐慌，審計部有提出專案審計報告，基於同樣的道理，本席也希望審計部針對馬鈴薯食品安全的議題進行一個專案調查，包括農業部、衛福部、馬鈴薯加工廠所在地的地方衛生局到底投入多少的預算、設備來確保民眾食品的安全，尤其是實驗室的檢驗能量是否足夠，本席希望審計部會後能夠給我們所有立委一份書面的報告。 |
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陳審計長瑞敏 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-04-23T10:00:38.235000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-04-23T10:00:38.395000+08:00 |
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可以，好。 |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-04-23T10:00:40.056000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-04-23T10:00:40.456000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].text |
這個很重要。 |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-04-23T10:00:42.357000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-04-23T10:00:59.624000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].text |
過去衛教宣導都在告訴民眾勿食用發芽的馬鈴薯，然而近期發生馬鈴薯的爭議後，許多網紅分享不正確的訊息，告訴民眾切掉發芽的部分還是可以食用。 |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-04-23T10:01:01.384000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-04-23T10:01:14.009000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].text |
現任食藥署姜至剛署長2018年在臺大當醫師的時候寫了一篇文章，名為「看見綠頭薯條？ |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-04-23T10:01:14.009000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-04-23T10:01:35.228000+08:00 |
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怎麼辦」，內容提到發芽馬鈴薯的龍葵鹼含量在1,000 ppm，其中發芽的馬鈴薯皮，龍葵鹼含量更高達2,000 ppm，可見專家都認為發芽馬鈴薯的食安風險非常高。 |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.641 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-04-23T10:01:37.010000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-04-23T10:01:41.114000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
請問衛福部，遇到發芽馬鈴薯，建議民眾要如何處理？ |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
莊次長人祥 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-04-23T10:01:42.816000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-04-23T10:01:46.059000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
有關發芽的馬鈴薯，一定是整顆丟棄，不能食用。 |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
0.842 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-04-23T10:01:46.765000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-04-23T10:01:46.905000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].text |
要丟棄嘛？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-04-23T10:01:49.187000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-04-23T10:02:12.124000+08:00 |
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媒體報導林口長庚醫院臨床毒物中心主任顏宗海指出，即使僅有少數馬鈴薯出現發芽的情形，其所含的龍葵鹼仍可能污染同批其他正常的馬鈴薯，呼籲主管機關應加強龍葵鹼的抽驗。 |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-04-23T10:02:12.124000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-04-23T10:02:21.133000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
不管今天進口美國馬鈴薯是加工用的、還是食用的，最後都是到消費者的市場，變成民眾吃下肚。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.974 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-04-23T10:02:21.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-04-23T10:02:38.822000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
不管是加工也好、進口也好，幾乎都是下肚，為何食用馬鈴薯輸入檢疫條件是馬鈴薯發芽必須整批退運，但加工馬鈴薯發芽後，卻放寬整批馬鈴薯有條件地進入加工廠處理？ |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-04-23T10:02:39.302000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-04-23T10:02:39.723000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
你的看法呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
莊次長人祥 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-04-23T10:02:40.543000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-04-23T10:03:03.609000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
報告委員，現在的做法是這樣，如果是農業部在邊境發現有發芽的馬鈴薯，他們會把這些發芽馬鈴薯剔掉，我們會針對這批馬鈴薯再去抽驗龍葵鹼，當然，如果驗出超過200 ppm，就會整批退運。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.987 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-04-23T10:03:03.609000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-04-23T10:03:23.296000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
本席希望農業部跟衛福部要以民眾食品安全作為優先，也希望加工馬鈴薯如有發芽應該整批退運，不能留存，因為留存以後都會到消費者身上，讓他們承擔食安的風險，你認不認同？ |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.959 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
莊次長人祥 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-04-23T10:03:24.537000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-04-23T10:03:25.998000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
有關發芽的部分，可能是農業部這邊…… |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-04-23T10:03:27.578000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-04-23T10:03:28.840000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
你們要說清楚、講明白。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
胡次長忠一 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-04-23T10:03:30.922000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-04-23T10:03:36.208000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
發芽不代表就有龍葵鹼，因為必須要再經過衛福部…… |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-04-23T10:03:36.448000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-04-23T10:03:38.110000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
發芽不代表就有龍葵鹼？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
胡次長忠一 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-23T10:03:38.470000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-04-23T10:03:46.335000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
因為發芽在0.5公分以內的話，是都會被承認的，日本人根本就不檢查有沒有發芽…… |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-04-23T10:03:46.355000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-04-23T10:03:46.915000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
你不要講日本！ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-04-23T10:03:48.015000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-04-23T10:03:50.436000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
今天是針對我們食安的風險。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-23T10:03:52.396000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-04-23T10:04:03.539000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
為什麼整批進口，加工的就可以來做處理，不加工的話，只要發覺確實有龍葵鹼、有發芽就要整批退？ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-04-23T10:04:04.759000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-04-23T10:04:09.541000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
這個裡面就是考量到為什麼……食安多重要，對不對？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-23T10:04:09.541000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-04-23T10:04:13.308000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
不要拿人民的健康來開玩笑！ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
胡次長忠一 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-23T10:04:13.608000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-04-23T10:04:14.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
沒有錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
胡次長忠一 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-23T10:04:14.750000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-04-23T10:04:18.337000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
報告委員，我也是國民，我的家人、我的親友都是國民，我們非常重視這一塊。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
胡次長忠一 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-23T10:04:20.094000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-04-23T10:04:31.003000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
在農業部的部分，我們主要是防疫，怕這些馬鈴薯流到田裡面又去種的時候，把國外的病源菌帶進來，這個是我們所擔心的。 |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.94 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
胡次長忠一 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-23T10:04:31.163000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-04-23T10:04:34.726000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
至於食品安全的話，這個要麻煩衛福部來做回應。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-23T10:04:34.726000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-23T10:04:43.648000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
本席先跟財政部及農業部確認，美國加工用的馬鈴薯在海關的貨品號列是不是07019000-003？ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.97 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-23T10:04:44.489000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-23T10:04:48.733000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
昨天我的助理特別打電話聯繫農業部防檢署確認。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-23T10:04:48.753000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-23T10:05:28.142000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
農業部在4月15日衛環委員會的書面報告裡面提到，新檢疫條件從2月6日實施到現在為止，尚有美國加工用的馬鈴薯輸入，但是本席請助理查了一下上述貨品號列的馬鈴薯，今年3月從美國進口的馬鈴薯數量有137公噸，價值221萬新臺幣，外界沒有辦法分辨哪些是加工用的馬鈴薯、哪些是食用的馬鈴薯。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-23T10:05:28.883000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-23T10:05:36.793000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
我請問農業部跟財政部，美國加工用與食用的馬鈴薯都在一個貨號，如何避免外界的誤判？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.973 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
胡次長忠一 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-23T10:05:37.654000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-23T10:05:43.999000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
報告委員，到目前為止美國進來全部都是鮮食用的、都是生鮮的，沒有加工的。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.935 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
胡次長忠一 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-23T10:05:44.559000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-23T10:05:52.644000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
第二個，我們也發現這個貨號是相同的，所以已經跟財政部提出申請，相信在最近的時間以內，財政部就會予以分開。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.936 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
胡次長忠一 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-23T10:05:54.045000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-04-23T10:06:02.549000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
因為美國的加工用馬鈴薯7月之後才會進口，所以這一段期間應該財政部…… |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-23T10:06:03.149000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-04-23T10:06:04.470000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
因為人民很關心這個事情…… |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
胡次長忠一 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-23T10:06:05.130000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-04-23T10:06:05.730000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
對，我們都很關心。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-23T10:06:05.970000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-04-23T10:06:13.374000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
根據媒體報導，衛福部對進口馬鈴薯目前採一般的抽批查檢，抽驗率2%到10%而已。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.97 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-23T10:06:13.674000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-04-23T10:06:28.759000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
請衛福部分別說明美國食用與加工用的馬鈴薯，依規定抽檢龍葵鹼含量超過200 ppm時會如何處置？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.976 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-23T10:06:29.279000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-23T10:06:34.540000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
不管是否食用或加工，都是整批退運或銷毀嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
莊次長人祥 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-23T10:06:34.720000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-04-23T10:06:46.744000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
報告委員，一旦我們驗到龍葵鹼超過200 ppm會整批退運，也就是一批裡面可能有3個貨櫃，這3個貨櫃就退運或銷毀，一定不能進入到我們的市場。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-23T10:06:47.764000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-04-23T10:07:07.611000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
因為人民非常重視食安的問題，農業部防檢署在邊境逐批查驗馬鈴薯，打開貨櫃發現馬鈴薯發芽，依現行的規定是可封存然後運往加工廠喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.862 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-23T10:07:07.611000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-04-23T10:07:19.180000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
若該批馬鈴薯食藥署沒有抽到查驗，農業部是否會通知食藥署去補查驗該批馬鈴薯的龍葵鹼到底有沒有超標？ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.913 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-23T10:07:19.180000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-04-23T10:07:21.183000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
會不會？ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
胡次長忠一 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-04-23T10:07:21.183000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-04-23T10:07:22.183000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
我們會。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-04-23T10:07:21.863000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-04-23T10:07:25.948000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
如果龍葵鹼超標，請問各主管機關要如何處理？ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.895 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
莊次長人祥 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-04-23T10:07:29.552000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-04-23T10:07:36.677000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
我們會驗龍葵鹼、重金屬跟農藥殘留，這三項只要超標，就一定退運或銷毀。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-04-23T10:07:36.677000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-04-23T10:07:40.741000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
我是希望這個要嚴謹啦！是。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-04-23T10:07:40.741000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-04-23T10:07:55.833000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
如果農業部防檢署打開貨櫃沒有發現馬鈴薯發芽，但食藥署抽到要檢驗龍葵鹼，請問該批馬鈴薯是否須等化驗出爐才能將整批貨櫃送往加工廠加工？ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.855 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-04-23T10:07:55.833000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-04-23T10:07:56.973000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
是不是這樣子？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
莊次長人祥 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-04-23T10:07:56.973000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-04-23T10:08:00.556000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
對，是，一定要等它的確沒有超過200 ppm。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.688 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-04-23T10:08:00.976000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-04-23T10:08:24.591000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
因為現在老百姓非常關心關於馬鈴薯的龍葵鹼，民眾在吃馬鈴薯以後到底會不會產生食安的問題，我認為這個是非常非常重要，我希望各行政官員本著良心，自己會吃才能讓一般的老百姓吃啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-04-23T10:08:25.071000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-04-23T10:08:42.020000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
你不要說檢驗的時候因為上面規定如何的，要是放寬到最後出問題，那時候亡羊補牢都來不及了，所以我們要事前去杜絕防範。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-04-23T10:08:43.181000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-04-23T10:09:00.677000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
最後一個議題，關於中央政府永續發展債券，目前財政部115年第一期的公債，發行金額為新臺幣4億元、年期為30年，將用於金門大學校舍興建計畫。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.772 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-04-23T10:09:01.538000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-04-23T10:09:03.880000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
我請問財政部次長，115年是否還有其他計畫會發行永續發展的債券？ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.926 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
阮次長清華 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-04-23T10:09:08.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-04-23T10:09:28.011000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
跟委員報告，我們除了金門大學永續券的發行之外，另外就是高雄的航空站，金額是790億，我們現在在輔導它能夠發行永續債，這部分我們會積極來推動。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.836 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
阮次長清華 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-04-23T10:09:28.011000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-04-23T10:09:48.217000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
目前除了中央之外，我們也希望地方政府能夠加入來發行，目前中央跟地方已經發行了大概345億，所以未來我們會跟金管會還有櫃買中心合作尋找相關案源來發行相關的永續債，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.96 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-04-23T10:09:48.217000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-04-23T10:09:49.738000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
好，這樣我了解。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-04-23T10:09:50.038000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-04-23T10:09:59.155000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
其實剛剛前一位委員所講的有一些我都聽不下去，大家都很清楚，請主計長上來，我請教你。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.919 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-04-23T10:10:02.056000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-04-23T10:10:07.457000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
關於電費，電梯沒有電就說沒有電費可以支應，這可能嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.652 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-04-23T10:10:07.457000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-04-23T10:10:13.419000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
那是經常門，你就是預算沒有過一樣可以花啊，那個都是在騙老百姓！ |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-04-23T10:10:14.879000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-04-23T10:10:17.139000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
不是，他如果沒有編預算，就不能支應。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-04-23T10:10:17.240000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-04-23T10:10:17.720000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
沒有編預算？ |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-04-23T10:10:19.020000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-04-23T10:10:20.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
拜託，電費沒有編預算？ |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-04-23T10:10:20.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-04-23T10:10:22.201000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
你每年都編的說沒有編預算？ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-04-23T10:10:24.095000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-04-23T10:10:25.617000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
這是經常門耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-04-23T10:10:25.617000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-04-23T10:10:26.617000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
後來我們有報追加嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-04-23T10:10:25.617000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-04-23T10:10:28.620000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
那不是資本門耶，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-04-23T10:10:29.641000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-04-23T10:10:33.065000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
主計長做那麼久，難道連這點你都不懂嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-04-23T10:10:34.847000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-04-23T10:10:36.709000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
因為去年的時候，他業務全部被減97%。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-04-23T10:10:40.654000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-04-23T10:10:44.682000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
經常門都可以用，去年用的今年都可以用，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-04-23T10:10:44.682000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-04-23T10:10:58.695000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
你就是預算沒有過也可以用，大家心知肚明，不要騙老百姓，你的水電、該用的本來經常門就可以用，資本門我不敢講…… |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-04-23T10:10:58.695000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-04-23T10:11:02.979000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
因為一般經常門主要是人事費和業務費為大宗，再來…… |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-04-23T10:11:05.029000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-04-23T10:11:05.629000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
電費沒有嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-04-23T10:11:05.629000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-04-23T10:11:07.210000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
所以可以流用的部分…… |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-04-23T10:11:08.490000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-04-23T10:11:08.770000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
大宗，電費沒有嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.429 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-04-23T10:11:08.990000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-04-23T10:11:10.411000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
大宗被減掉很多，再來就是人事費不可以…… |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.412 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-04-23T10:11:11.131000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-04-23T10:11:12.651000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
不要去扭曲啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-04-23T10:11:13.611000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-04-23T10:11:19.613000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
電費每年固定編的，你身為主計長一定要講實話，讓老百姓清楚。 |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
林委員德福 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-04-23T10:11:20.253000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-04-23T10:11:23.594000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
我們是針對問題，不要去扭曲、去騙，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-04-23T10:11:23.594000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-04-23T10:11:25.695000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
我們沒有扭曲啦。謝謝。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
主席（賴委員士葆代） |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-04-23T10:11:26.195000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-04-23T10:11:28.766429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
謝謝林德福委員質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
主席（賴委員士葆代） |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-04-23T10:11:29.066429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-04-23T10:11:32.780714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
下一位請召委李彥秀委員質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0 |