| IVOD_ID |
168769 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168769 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-23T09:15:53+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-23T09:24:46+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:53 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a0a6b12795be5442b9f85263faf33ded47e947452b2762635c559c9b7407d71c05516ffde792dc4e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱議瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:15:53 - 09:24:46 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於公平交易委員會單位預算及附屬單位預算非營業部分關於公平交易委員會主管：反托拉斯基金。(詢答)
二、審查：
(一) 本院委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等17人擬具「土石採取法第三條條文修正草案」案。
(二) 本院委員黃仁等36人擬具「土石採取法第三條及第十四條條文修正草案」案。
(三) 本院委員邱議瑩等21人擬具「土石採取法部分條文修正草案」案。
(四) 本院委員賴瑞隆等19人擬具「土石採取法部分條文修正草案」案。
(五) 本院委員許智傑等31人擬具「土石採取法第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
(六) 本院委員柯志恩等19人擬具「土石採取法第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
(七) 本院委員邱鎮軍等24人擬具「土石採取法第三十六條、第三十八條及第三十九條條文修正草案」案。
(八) 本院委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「土石採取法第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
(九) 本院委員丁學忠等16人擬具「土石採取法第三十六條條文修正草案」案。
(十) 本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「土石採取法第三十六條、第三十八條及第四十一條條文修正草案」案。
(第十案如未接獲院會交付審查之議事處來文，則不予審查) (詢答及處理)
【4月22日及23日二天一次會】） |
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異營委員質詢謝謝主席 我先請一下公平會陳代理主委請公平會主委二位應召 |
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主委我先請您看一下這幾個網站請問你能夠分辨得出來哪一個是原廠的維修網站嗎 |
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當然如果從標題來看也許不是那麼清楚 但是點進去看情況怎麼樣才能做進一步的改變但你覺得一般的民眾他如果比如說他的冷氣要維修他打了一個大金冷氣維修這樣的一個Google的關鍵字跳出來這麼多的網站 你覺得消費者會每一個都點進去看然後才知道說哪一個是原廠的維修網站嗎 |
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當然從點閱的行為來看一下因為你會從Google的關鍵字或是跳出來的第一個或許他們就會覺得這個有可能而且每一個網站上面看起來它都是直接就寫某某品牌的冷氣維修來 主委那您看到其實剛剛的那一頁裡面第二個才是真正的原廠維修的網站但是其實你從它的標裡頭你是看不出來的就算你點進去了以後 |
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他其實還是會有很多這一些假的反饋告訴你說這個維修網站這個維修廠商其實做得很好 |
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其實你是看不出來的我不曉得您大家還記不記得過去公平會曾經就這樣子的廣告不實或者是虛偽不實去做出裁把不過也很多年沒有再去罰過了所以像現在在很多的網路資訊AI資訊我們或者是說在Google的關鍵字裡頭其實就可以買到相關的這些廣告對於大多數的消費者來說其實造成了極大的困擾 |
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因為他根本不知道哪一個是正的原廠維修我也不能講說不是原廠維修的都不好但是這個還是會有可能會出現詐騙或者是說在維修的品質上面良又不齊或者是誤導消費者的狀態這個是不是也能夠請公評會能夠主動的去調查了解 |
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跟委員報告一下過去我們處分過的案子基本上都是他的廣告內容是不實的那目前之所以委員談到說目前好像很少這個案子主要就是說現在他已經不敢不實了但是他直接就打出了我們的現在執法原則就是說如果你的網頁上讓消費者可以去判斷有判斷的機會的話那原則上我們就不能說他不實 |
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好那他怎麼樣判斷的機會來你看一下你可以看得出來這個網頁他到底是不是真正的原廠維修他的字體非常的小小到讓你其實看不清楚比如說在左邊的這一頁他的字體非原廠的他是放在上面這字體非常的小左邊這一頁呢他是放在最底下 |
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他其實他的字體是非常的小我們過去處分過的案子對這種字體太小或是隱匿的我們會查啦這個我還是希望你們要去了解一下啦這個其實還是有很多的消費糾紛產生所以今天特別在藉由這個我們處理公平會預算的這個審查的時候來跟您提出這樣的一個好來那個主委您請回我請一下經濟部次長我們請次長 |
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土石採取法 |
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被這麼關心的提出來是因為在去年的時候發生了美濃大峽谷的事件那這個美濃大峽谷還被惡意的網友把它改成叫做邁銀大峽谷 |
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高度的指控這跟我有關係喔那我想藉著這樣的一個機會也要讓大眾很清楚的知道這個土石採取我們目前的法則老實講已經無法規範行為人次長您同意我的看法嗎 |
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是過去從97個案件裡面的裁法我們認為說只有行政法法是不夠的因為像委員的照片所示它其實是一個盈利的行為甚至還有不肖的業者來去回舔所謂的廢棄物砂石業者有盈利行為這個我們也不排斥但是非法採取砂石做盈利盜採然後這個 |
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偷到垃圾偷到被棄物這已經是一個產業鏈了所以我們現在的裁罰可能只罰這個司機你根本是完全扣不到真正的幕後的那一個黑手所以我看很多的委員提出來的這些版本包括上線都 |
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提高非常多啦本期的期按的這個上限大概是2500萬應該算是在所有的期按裡面算是最少的也有提到2億的啦 1億的啦不管你的上限提高到多少我認為整體的 |
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這一個非法盜採砂石的這個產業鏈應該要去強力的去打擊他增加刑事責任甚至包括不只是行為人不只是卡車的司機沒入他的砂石車 |
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甚至所有的行政罰則都應該一併採納您同意我的看法嗎是 完全同意啊剛委員所說的特別是有盈利的行為不管是它即便說它是最後是回舔這個廢棄物事實上也是盈利因為這些廢棄物就是它等於兩盒賺嘛它挖了砂石起來賣了砂石賺一批嘛 |
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回填廢棄物 非法的廢棄物 回填以後又再賺一批嘛整個產業鏈也造成了現在全台灣有所謂的土方之亂這些過去的建築營建土方目前不知道要倒去哪裡 也沒有辦法處理所以我們除了去處理倒採砂石這件事情以外我覺得經濟部 |
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跟國土署應該就整個產業鏈整個廢棄物的處理太陽模式應該要去做更詳細的研究評估土石採取法現在加重罰環我們應該要儘速通過但我不知道為什麼行政院拖這麼久 |
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安委員所說的確實我們在過去一段時間我們不但是要遏止這個行為我們當然這個行為必須要回復整復是一個重要性的事情這邊有涉及到跨部會我們看到我們過去的時候這應該牽扯到國土署環境部跟你們經濟部在沙石的管理上面那行政院的版本什麼時候可以出來 |
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我們希望在兩個禮拜內啊可以提出來兩個禮拜內是出行政院吧對對如果兩個禮拜內沒有辦法出行政院呢請陳金德提頭來見嗎沒有沒有沒有其實在這個部分我們大家的溝通的部分是針對於整戶的部分但是目前大家逐漸意見的收攏之中我們希望儘速的通過這個法規恢復我們這個環境景觀跟國土的安全 |
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您過去擔任很長一段時間的水利署署長所以您對於在河川稻採砂石這些事情其實您都了然於心我覺得在很多的規範管理跟制度化更提升賀止犯罪產業鏈的出現的這一段 |
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這個過程我希望你能夠多用一點心那我也希望行政院的版本能夠早日提出來我們今天可能主席會待會會逐條討論但是我覺得行政院版本如果不併進來的話我們真的不知道政府單位的態度在哪裡你不能只有委員的提案你行政單位的提案到現在一直遲遲不送出來這個我們也覺得這個非常的不應該所以市長這個我們還是希望能夠交付給您很重要的任務好不好好謝謝 |
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好 謝謝 |