| IVOD_ID |
168736 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168736 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-22T11:43:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-22T11:54:24+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:56 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5b5880b40c5769f1345f168d89c5899a63812774c6aab6af4f2050ed7b2b649b123254f0538377ef5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張嘉郡 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:43:28 - 11:54:24 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於經濟部及所屬單位預算部分。
二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案直轄市及縣市政府一般性補助款經濟部主管部分預算。
(以上二案僅詢答)
【4月22日及23日二天一次會】） |
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我想請張家俊委員質詢謝謝主席我想請工部長請工部長 |
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現在已經是四月中下旬了那再過兩週就是五月了部長您知道我為什麼要特別提這個時間嗎 |
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5月迅起來是嗎還是報稅季又快來了那每年的5月是我國綜合所得稅跟盈利事業所得稅申報的時間那對於民眾還有中小企業來說這個繳稅本來就是一個比較沉重的支出那今年的情況更是嚴峻一方面這個美國關稅的這個政策搖擺不定那當然國內出口產業大家都人心惶惶 |
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那另外一方面呢這個美伊的局勢導致國際油價物價都同步飆漲那所以呢這等於是說在這個時程報稅會對於產業就是造成一個很沉重的負擔那面對這樣的情況不曉得部長有沒有掌握呢 |
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去年是好像財政部有延一個月今年還沒有這樣因為整個產業都是在你的這個領導之下所以呢去年在疫情過去在疫情期間其實政府都有主動延期這個報稅的期限讓產業有緩衝然後甚至調整資金的時間 |
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那包括去年面對美國關稅的衝擊政府也採取了相對應比較彈性的措施那我想要請問部長今年的國際情勢比去年看起來還要嚴峻然後是不是我們產業面臨的困難這麼多是不是有可能經濟部可以跟財政部溝通一下能夠有一個彈性的作為呢 |
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我們來轉達委員的提案就是說因為委員代表民意至少是有民意代表那我們來轉達說有民意代表這樣的訴求那請財政部來考量我相信部長的這個建議 |
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財政部也一定會非常重視因為非常多的中小企業我相信也是面臨窘境所以本席建議可以比照去年跟疫情期間的彈性模式將今年的報稅截止期限由5月31號延後至6月30日 |
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那一個月的緩衝期對於中小企業的資金調度來說我想是一個救命的及時雨那特別拜託部長盡快的可以跟財政部來溝通然後苦民所苦我們來轉告表達轉達 |
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謝謝部長那再來我想跟部長討論的是經濟部的單位預算那本席注意到經濟部的單位預算在這個營業基金之下編列了1億1880萬元計畫透過用國庫增資的方式撥款給所屬的台塘、中油、台電、台水四家國營企業來採購無人機 |
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那我想請問部長這一筆經費編載經濟部單位預算的必要性是什麼因為經濟部他是整個無人機產業的這個統籌計畫的主政機關所以就是我們編載我們部會之下那這幾個國營事業規模都不小耶甚至非常大難道不能用自己的經費購買嗎 |
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為什麼要編在你這裡呢而且無人機的用途都是屬於國營事業裡面的正常營運範疇之內為什麼那個預算要編在經濟部呢 |
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因為我們就是說邊站我們它有一些共同的一些規格上的一些設備就是部長所說的你整個預算書裡面也沒有寫他買了要做什麼你就只有說統籌型計畫採購無人機就這樣子主要是在巡檢 |
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使用啊 但是都沒有說明啊都沒有說明啊 你內部都沒有說明事實上這幾家國營事業過去都有自己購買無人機的紀錄像潭水113年就買了7架那台電截至114年8月已經買了214架那本席是絕對支持喔 |
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使用無人機來減輕第一線人員的負擔跟讓他們的工作更安全更便利這個本席都非常支持但既然這本來就是國營事業的經營成本為什麼要由經濟部來買單因為報告委員就是說經濟部主要目的是推動產業 |
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所以你要推動的是什麼產業無人機產業所以你要買這些無人機給國營事業用這樣子來幫助無人機產業嗎因為這個無人機產業推動它我們會設計它既定的規格然後引進事業相關的規格我就想要知道說這個預算書真的編得很粗糙 |
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我翻遍預算書完全看不出來第一要買幾架第二要什麼規格以後具體要做什麼然後整個說明竟然只有寫依據無人機載具產業發展統籌型計畫然後辦理相關的採購具體的採購明細資質未提部長無人機的用途不一樣規格跟價格落差是很大的便宜的一萬多塊就有了然後貴的到幾十萬都有編了一億多的預算 |
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您打算怎麼買所以我們事實上是有一個完整的計畫然後都沒有提供給我們對我們可以那個費用在那個完整的提供給我們我是建議部長說其實我們是很看重經濟部的預算我們也希望盡速的把它審查完成但是不能因為我們願意盡速你們就 |
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隨便 然後就是很粗糙的去處理因為我舉例來說 一億多欸如果買一台一萬的 你可以買一萬多台一台五十萬的你只能買兩百台那到底是要買幾台 要買什麼規格 |
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幾價的部分事實上都已經規劃出來了啦是啊 但上面都沒有寫啊就是完全沒有說明嘛所以我是希望說部長你們編預算的時候你們跟這個我們本會本委員會說明預算的時候也要必須要落實要仔細可以嗎 |
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因為雖然我們中央政府致力發展無人機產業需要補充說明因為我們沒辦法空白授權給你們這種資訊不明白的預算我們經濟委員會如果空白授權給你們不是很妥當 |
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那另外本席在翻閱我們經濟部115年度預算的這個單位預算當中發現編列的稅入只有67.98億那比去年這個稅入 |
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82.11億元喔整整少了14.13億元喔大幅減少大概17.21%我想要問部長預估稅入大幅下降的主因是什麼關鍵數給我的資料我們是少了9億多欸少了9億多嗎你自己看你自己看82減67 |
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這數學這麼簡單 你自己看我的螢幕82減67不就是14億嗎是 委員您問的這個數字是有關於部本部的稅務的部分是啊對 那主要減少的就是我們的那個股息紅利的腳庫因為股息紅利像轉投資都是編在部本部是 這就是我想講的你這14.13億喔 |
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509.305 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
516.833 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
裡面投資股息紅利減少就佔了13.58億主要是中鋼還有漢翔還有台岩還有螳螂還有台船還有可威環境所以這六家 |
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531.863 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
548.797 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
基本上已經連續這個股息已經連續4年都下降了今年跟4年前比更是直接腰斬部長這造成國庫收入大減經濟部投資管理是出了什麼問題這個是拿人民的納稅錢去投資難道不是應該更謹慎嗎因為中鋼的部分我想過去幾年因為國際的鋼 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
558.005 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
574.118 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
鋼鐵市場事實上市況不好因為有比較中國因為大量的這個出口我沒有針對任何一個公司我沒有針對任何一個你們現在投資的公司我只是希望說我們經濟部要投資可能也有一些是 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
575.399 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
598.684 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
政策性的關係也有要輔導性的關係但是呢我還是希望說就好像國發基金他也會在可能這個目標達成之後他會重新盤點嘛那我也是希望經濟部也要做對內的這些投資的盤點不能夠說就任他每年每年不斷的虧損該盤點的時候該調整這個這個 |
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604.185 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
607.906 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
投資的比例的時候 他還是賺錢啦只是繳額比較少啦比往年少啦那我沒有每一家都賺錢 唐榮 台船可威都已經連續虧損兩年了是不是 我有沒有認證 |
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624.876 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
639.802 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
因為台船他做了這個所以我就跟部長講我沒有針對任何一家公司就是希望針對你們部本部的這個稅入然後這個投資效益你們可以做一個內部的盤點然後能夠對於你們的這個我們納稅人的這些繳的稅呢可以更審慎的對待好不好好謝謝 |