iVOD / 168682

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IVOD_ID 168682
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168682
日期 2026-04-22
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-5-22-7
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第7次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 5
會議資料.會次 7
會議資料.種類 委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] 22
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 教育及文化委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第7次全體委員會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-04-22T09:56:31+08:00
結束時間 2026-04-22T10:07:30+08:00
影片長度 00:10:59
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 謝龍介
委員發言時間 09:56:31 - 10:07:30
會議時間 2026-04-22T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第7次全體委員會議(事由:一、邀請核能安全委員會主任委員陳明真列席就「我國海域放射性物質監測執行現況及未來因應作為」進行專題報告,並備質詢。二、審查(一)委員萬美玲等19人擬具「原子能法部分條文修正草案」案。(二)委員葉元之等19人擬具「原子能法部分條文修正草案」案。(三)委員羅廷瑋等19人擬具「原子能法部分條文修正草案」案。【僅進行詢答;第(三)案,如經院會復議,則不予審查】)
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 主席,我請當主委好,有請陳主委主委、教長,在你的報告裡面日本的白紅的婦人污染的海水那麼,對於這個川跟石
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 呃 我們就剛剛講的就是我們每一劑每一劑會取樣 每半年會取樣所以出院有幾次啊哇 那個台育啦 白金你跟我說台育白金 我接受一百零七 一劑大概一年大概會有五百多次以上五百幾次啊齁 那麼上 我們主機簽簽嗎對
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 這是對臺灣人的健康,因為依照冬季時宜來發表日本的白鳳,來到臺灣海洋的污染應該差不多在三年左右所以今年大概就是有可能會發生到海洋的污染
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 但是以市長來說,當然是這樣報告所以今年就變成要,你們有想要推到財務的出手嗎?有這個計劃嗎?
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 報告委員 那就是盧孔委員講的我們在110年日本還沒排放的時候我們有去做一些潛勢分析大概三四年對台灣開始就是會影響那其實在日本在112年開始排放的時候我們跟氣象署 中央氣象署我知道嘛 就是說依照國際所有的認定就是說那的應用應該是今年嘛會來到我們台灣的海淹嘛對
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 所以我不是說你今年會增加蔡英文的出手數
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 目前是他們大概我們看的一個追蹤是川的濃度大概還在關島附近距離台灣一千七百公里所以在我們一百一十五年的一個監測還是會維持跟一百一十四年一樣大概每年都會有快五千件的一個檢測所以我們感受我們的誤測就是說今年還沒達到我們台灣的海約對所以可能每年才會高
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 這就是,所以你有錢美女什麼時候這個污染會來到我們台灣的海洋目前我們都還是持續追蹤啊,然後還是講的這個海洋你怎麼有錢嘛,所以你不覺得說我今年不用穿褲子,美女要穿褲子嗎這對台灣人來說,我們對他們實在重重的健康和婦人污染,大家都很重視嘛,是不是不然你今天報告要做什麼?是不是這樣?
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 那你有幾位,你現在的伍卓,幾位伍卓是這個川哥卓那麼以時間來算,今年你的退卓還沒達到台灣的海約那這樣,明年什麼時候,大約什麼時候,會來到我們台灣的海約裡面
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 這部分我們都定期追蹤我們大概固定都是八、九月會開一個跨部會的一個討論會議因為畢竟這個還是要分析的我們才可以比較有精準的一個預測那這樣我們都是滾動的把擴散的一個預測的結果我們一定反映在明年的一個監測計畫裡頭所以今年你剛才給我的答案就是說今年要到關德附近
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 這樣你把今年到關德附近 九年到什麼地方準年到什麼地方 這三天來 你所管轄的數據那五年到什麼地方 就是說五年到台灣的時候是什麼時間這個報告可以上網分析嗎可以的請你提供 來主委 我請教你
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 夫人,你想什麼想什麼,我問過你啊,時間你沒辦法說,我請問你,你不便在這裡說,因為怎樣呢?
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 這個意識形態當的人,繼續擁護婦人的人,他沒有對與不對,臨環政策也沒有對與不對,這是選擇的利益那麼要重新選擇婦人來做為我們國的發展臨環技術,跟選擇完全隔離,不易採用
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 這是兩種的選擇那麼你普遍在這裏表達亞裔是要安慰某一些特定的人卻是說沒有什麼傷害到他們的感情我們是可以提倡的那麼你有衝著主觀整個國家聯盟政策的主要的總統跟行政議長來提出
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 這個施政,讓人二手三手重啟這個決定來開,可以多久的施政,可以完成你日本人都不說,但是你把總統跟行政都報過了嗎?還是他們罵不罵不?
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 沒有 院長跟總統都沒有問過我們來...他不是要問過你嗎 啊 這麼多個嘛不是喔 要出一支水 還要重啟核能 還要有水保險 管他多少錢嘛 全都要問時間上不是在核安會控制 是裁定會決定這個...
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 對啦,他都沒在問你問嘛,所以他沒去掌握到我們台灣經濟、人文這麼緊張、國際這麼緊張,結果我們想要重啟輔營的時候,只出一句話說我們要重啟合同,結果他都沒在問你問嘛,這很離譜耶!所以你看到他沒在問你問嘛,他都沒在問你問嘛!
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transcript.whisperx[23].text 他不是問我,他沒有直接問這些問題了,他是說當然會關心,但是重點是要核安能夠確保你也為了要拿便宜,拿一個理由出來說,你心中本身大部分
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transcript.whisperx[24].text 他有跟你關心過 或是有跟你問過 讓你中間差不多多久的時間可以看到豪哥 或是多久的時間可以中心運轉都不要跟你問喔他有 我有說明這些問題 我沒辦法給他一個確定的時間表是 你沒有辦法給他時間表因為他有問過因素會影響這方面你剛才是跟我說他都沒有跟你問喔
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transcript.whisperx[25].text 你要講清楚他有關心 他當然會關心但是他沒有要求什麼時候要完成審查他沒有要求 他說他有關心你現在還說他有關心嗎?他當然會關心啊所以總統是很擔心我們的靈魂不足嘛所以他有關心是你沒有給他答案嗎?是不是這樣?
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transcript.whisperx[26].text 我核安會立場是沒有辦法給他確定可以越轉的時間因為很多因素有影響人的時間到底總統剛才是有關心或沒有關心,有跟你說謊或沒有跟你說謊他有關心啦,但我沒有辦法回答時間有關心或沒有問,沒有問還可以關心真厲害啊,真厲害
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transcript.whisperx[27].text 你也真好運,你小到厲害你剛才把這些問題都從包包座位,紅骨包刀啊又沒答案,又沒第三人,又貼總統餅蓋不錯,好
transcript.gazette[0].speaker 謝委員龍介
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transcript.gazette[0].text 主席,請陳主委。
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transcript.gazette[1].speaker 主席
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transcript.gazette[1].text 請陳主委。
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transcript.gazette[2].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[2].start 2026-04-22T09:56:55.054000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[2].text 主委早安。
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transcript.gazette[3].speaker 陳主任委員明真
transcript.gazette[3].start 2026-04-22T09:56:55.194000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[3].text 委員好。
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transcript.gazette[4].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[4].start 2026-04-22T09:56:55.494000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[4].text 在你的報告裡面,有關日本排放核能污染的海水,對於氚跟銫,我們是只有監控氚而已嗎?
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transcript.gazette[5].speaker 陳主任委員明真
transcript.gazette[5].start 2026-04-22T09:57:17.164000+08:00
transcript.gazette[5].guessed
transcript.gazette[5].end 2026-04-22T09:57:21.587000+08:00
transcript.gazette[5].text 我們監控的不只氚而已,還有其他的。
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transcript.gazette[6].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[6].start 2026-04-22T09:57:22.788000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[6].text 國際現在是針對氚跟銫比較有指標性的數據。
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transcript.gazette[7].speaker 陳主任委員明真
transcript.gazette[7].start 2026-04-22T09:57:29.192000+08:00
transcript.gazette[7].guessed
transcript.gazette[7].end 2026-04-22T09:57:30.392000+08:00
transcript.gazette[7].text 我們請輻射中心主任回答。
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transcript.gazette[8].speaker 陳主任志平
transcript.gazette[8].start 2026-04-22T09:57:31.553000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[8].text 委員好。
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transcript.gazette[9].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[9].start 2026-04-22T09:57:33.254000+08:00
transcript.gazette[9].guessed
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transcript.gazette[9].text 目前IAEA裡面是還沒有說有污染的報告,對吧?有嗎?
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transcript.gazette[10].speaker 陳主任志平
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transcript.gazette[10].guessed
transcript.gazette[10].end 2026-04-22T09:57:49.576000+08:00
transcript.gazette[10].text 目前IAEA就日本排放的水的檢測結果都沒有異常。
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transcript.gazette[11].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[11].start 2026-04-22T09:57:51.477000+08:00
transcript.gazette[11].guessed
transcript.gazette[11].end 2026-04-22T09:57:55.420000+08:00
transcript.gazette[11].text 沒有,好,那麼我國對於這個海水的監控,你們有什麼作為?
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transcript.gazette[12].speaker 陳主任志平
transcript.gazette[12].start 2026-04-22T09:58:01.592000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[12].text 跟委員報告,目前我們有跟農業部、海巡署、水試所等等的單位進行臺灣海域的監測,總共有107個點位,分不同的頻度,比如說,每季、每半年、每年去取樣,取樣的核種,如同委員剛剛講的,我們主要監控的核種在水的部分是以氚跟銫為主,但是我們也有做其他核種的監測,比如說……
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transcript.gazette[13].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[13].start 2026-04-22T09:58:32.518000+08:00
transcript.gazette[13].guessed
transcript.gazette[13].end 2026-04-22T09:58:37.001000+08:00
transcript.gazette[13].text 所以107個點是以固定座標去取樣?
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transcript.gazette[14].speaker 陳主任志平
transcript.gazette[14].start 2026-04-22T09:58:40.904000+08:00
transcript.gazette[14].guessed
transcript.gazette[14].end 2026-04-22T09:58:41.325000+08:00
transcript.gazette[14].text 對,那個包含……
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transcript.gazette[15].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[15].start 2026-04-22T09:58:41.925000+08:00
transcript.gazette[15].guessed
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transcript.gazette[15].text 到目前已經取樣幾次了?
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transcript.gazette[16].speaker 陳主任志平
transcript.gazette[16].start 2026-04-22T09:58:47.023000+08:00
transcript.gazette[16].guessed
transcript.gazette[16].end 2026-04-22T09:58:51.064000+08:00
transcript.gazette[16].text 如同剛剛講的,我們每一季會取樣、每半年會取樣……
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transcript.gazette[17].speaker 謝委員龍介
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transcript.gazette[17].text 你取樣幾次了?
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transcript.gazette[18].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[18].start 2026-04-22T09:58:57.746000+08:00
transcript.gazette[18].guessed
transcript.gazette[18].end 2026-04-22T09:58:59.327000+08:00
transcript.gazette[18].text 沒關係,你跟我說大約就好,我接受。
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transcript.gazette[19].speaker 陳主任志平
transcript.gazette[19].start 2026-04-22T09:59:03.608000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[19].text 一年大概會有五百多次以上。
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transcript.gazette[20].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[20].start 2026-04-22T09:59:07.209000+08:00
transcript.gazette[20].guessed
transcript.gazette[20].end 2026-04-22T09:59:10.150000+08:00
transcript.gazette[20].text 取樣五百多次,我們自己檢測嗎?
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transcript.gazette[21].speaker 陳主任志平
transcript.gazette[21].start 2026-04-22T09:59:10.150000+08:00
transcript.gazette[21].guessed
transcript.gazette[21].end 2026-04-22T09:59:19.204000+08:00
transcript.gazette[21].text 對,所有的核種都是送到偵測中心或者國原院去檢測。
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transcript.gazette[22].speaker 謝委員龍介
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transcript.gazette[22].guessed
transcript.gazette[22].end 2026-04-22T09:59:21.546000+08:00
transcript.gazette[22].text 目前都完全沒有檢出異樣?
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transcript.gazette[23].speaker 陳主任志平
transcript.gazette[23].start 2026-04-22T09:59:22.527000+08:00
transcript.gazette[23].guessed
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transcript.gazette[23].text 沒有發現異狀。
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transcript.gazette[24].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[24].start 2026-04-22T09:59:22.968000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[24].end 2026-04-22T09:59:34.151000+08:00
transcript.gazette[24].text 貴會有針對海洋所捕捉的魚類、魚體做檢測嗎?
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transcript.gazette[25].speaker 陳主任志平
transcript.gazette[25].start 2026-04-22T09:59:34.151000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[25].end 2026-04-22T09:59:49.977000+08:00
transcript.gazette[25].text 有,漁業署有提供我們海生物來進行檢測,同樣的,針對海生物我們也是有對於氚、銫這些核種進行檢測。
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transcript.gazette[26].text 完全沒有異常?
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transcript.gazette[27].speaker 陳主任志平
transcript.gazette[27].start 2026-04-22T09:59:49.977000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[27].text 目前也都沒有發現異常情形。
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transcript.gazette[28].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[28].start 2026-04-22T09:59:53.014000+08:00
transcript.gazette[28].guessed
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transcript.gazette[28].text 這是為了臺灣人的健康,依照IAEA所發表,日本排放的污染,差不多三年左右會影響我們臺灣海域,所以大概今年有可能會發生海域污染。
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transcript.gazette[29].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[29].start 2026-04-22T10:00:18.533000+08:00
transcript.gazette[29].guessed
transcript.gazette[29].end 2026-04-22T10:00:19.493000+08:00
transcript.gazette[29].text 以時程來說,當初是這樣報告。
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transcript.gazette[30].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[30].start 2026-04-22T10:00:20.614000+08:00
transcript.gazette[30].guessed
transcript.gazette[30].end 2026-04-22T10:00:23.235000+08:00
transcript.gazette[30].text 今年你們有想要增加採樣次數嗎?
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transcript.gazette[31].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[31].start 2026-04-22T10:00:23.235000+08:00
transcript.gazette[31].guessed
transcript.gazette[31].end 2026-04-22T10:00:23.255000+08:00
transcript.gazette[31].text 有這個計畫嗎?
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transcript.gazette[32].speaker 張組長淑君
transcript.gazette[32].start 2026-04-22T10:00:35.222000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[32].text 報告委員,如同委員講的,在110年日本還沒排放的時候,我們有去做一些潛勢分析,大概三、四年對臺灣開始會影響。
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transcript.gazette[33].speaker 張組長淑君
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transcript.gazette[33].text 其實日本在112年開始排放的時候,我們跟中央氣象署有合作……
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transcript.gazette[34].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[34].start 2026-04-22T10:00:53.457000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[34].text 我知道,依照國際所有的認知,應該是今年會受影響、會來到我們臺灣海域,所以我才問你今年會不會增加採樣次數?
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transcript.gazette[35].speaker 張組長淑君
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transcript.gazette[35].text 目前我們追蹤氚濃度大概還在關島附近,距離臺灣1,700公里,所以我們115年監測還是會維持跟114年一樣,大概每年都會有快5,000件的檢測。
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transcript.gazette[36].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[36].start 2026-04-22T10:01:27.998000+08:00
transcript.gazette[36].guessed
transcript.gazette[36].end 2026-04-22T10:01:43.306000+08:00
transcript.gazette[36].text 所以你們監測今年還沒到達我們臺灣海域,可能明年才會到,你們預測明年什麼時候污染會來到我們臺灣海域?
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transcript.gazette[37].speaker 張組長淑君
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transcript.gazette[37].end 2026-04-22T10:01:47.088000+08:00
transcript.gazette[37].text 目前我們都還是持續追蹤,海洋還是……
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transcript.gazette[38].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[38].start 2026-04-22T10:01:48.129000+08:00
transcript.gazette[38].guessed
transcript.gazette[38].end 2026-04-22T10:01:48.889000+08:00
transcript.gazette[38].text 你們要有預測嘛!
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transcript.gazette[39].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[39].start 2026-04-22T10:01:49.149000+08:00
transcript.gazette[39].guessed
transcript.gazette[39].end 2026-04-22T10:01:50.730000+08:00
transcript.gazette[39].text 所以你才會說今年不用增加。
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transcript.gazette[40].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[40].start 2026-04-22T10:01:50.730000+08:00
transcript.gazette[40].guessed 1
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transcript.gazette[40].text 明年有要增加嗎?
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transcript.gazette[41].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[41].start 2026-04-22T10:01:53.071000+08:00
transcript.gazette[41].guessed
transcript.gazette[41].end 2026-04-22T10:01:59.255000+08:00
transcript.gazette[41].text 這對臺灣人來說,我們對飲食、食材等種種跟健康跟核能污染相關的,大家都很重視,不然你今天報告要做什麼,不是這樣嗎?
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transcript.gazette[42].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[42].start 2026-04-22T10:02:07.161000+08:00
transcript.gazette[42].guessed
transcript.gazette[42].end 2026-04-22T10:02:23.026000+08:00
transcript.gazette[42].text 你現在規劃預測氚跟銫,以時間來算,你推測今年還沒達到臺灣海域,那明年大約什麼時候會到我們臺灣海域?
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transcript.gazette[43].speaker 張組長淑君
transcript.gazette[43].start 2026-04-22T10:02:27.986000+08:00
transcript.gazette[43].guessed
transcript.gazette[43].end 2026-04-22T10:02:41.875000+08:00
transcript.gazette[43].text 這部分我們都定期追蹤,我們大概固定都是8、9月會開跨部會討論會議,畢竟這個還是要分析後,我們才可以有比較精準的預測。
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transcript.gazette[44].speaker 張組長淑君
transcript.gazette[44].start 2026-04-22T10:02:42.435000+08:00
transcript.gazette[44].guessed
transcript.gazette[44].end 2026-04-22T10:02:48.619000+08:00
transcript.gazette[44].text 我們都是滾動地把擴散預測結果……我們一定反映在明年的監測計畫裡頭。
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transcript.gazette[45].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[45].start 2026-04-22T10:02:48.619000+08:00
transcript.gazette[45].guessed
transcript.gazette[45].end 2026-04-22T10:03:11.109000+08:00
transcript.gazette[45].text 所以你剛才給我的答案是說,今年還在關島附近,那你把今年到關島附近、去年到什麼地方、前年到什麼地方,這三年來你們所觀測的數據及預測明年到什麼地方,或者是預測是什麼時間到達臺灣,這個報告可以送給本席嗎?
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transcript.gazette[46].start 2026-04-22T10:03:11.109000+08:00
transcript.gazette[46].guessed
transcript.gazette[46].end 2026-04-22T10:03:11.369000+08:00
transcript.gazette[46].text 可以的。
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transcript.gazette[47].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[47].start 2026-04-22T10:03:11.429000+08:00
transcript.gazette[47].guessed
transcript.gazette[47].end 2026-04-22T10:03:11.709000+08:00
transcript.gazette[47].text 請你提供。
transcript.gazette[47].quality 1
transcript.gazette[48].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[48].start 2026-04-22T10:03:11.849000+08:00
transcript.gazette[48].guessed
transcript.gazette[48].end 2026-04-22T10:03:38.104000+08:00
transcript.gazette[48].text 主委,我問過你核二廠、核三廠重啟時程,你沒辦法講、你不便在這裡講,因為意識形態重的人、繼續擁護核能的人……這沒有對跟不對啦。
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transcript.gazette[49].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[49].start 2026-04-22T10:03:38.104000+08:00
transcript.gazette[49].guessed
transcript.gazette[49].end 2026-04-22T10:03:39.965000+08:00
transcript.gazette[49].text 能源政策也沒有對跟不對,只是利益選擇。
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transcript.gazette[50].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[50].start 2026-04-22T10:03:40.746000+08:00
transcript.gazette[50].guessed
transcript.gazette[50].end 2026-04-22T10:03:59+08:00
transcript.gazette[50].text 要重新選擇核能做為我國發電能源之一,或選擇完全隔離、不予採用,這是兩種選擇。
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transcript.gazette[51].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[51].start 2026-04-22T10:03:59.120000+08:00
transcript.gazette[51].guessed
transcript.gazette[51].end 2026-04-22T10:04:07.024000+08:00
transcript.gazette[51].text 你不便在這裡表達也許是要安慰某一些特定的人,或者是不想傷害他們的感情,本席可以體諒啦!
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transcript.gazette[52].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[52].start 2026-04-22T10:04:08.745000+08:00
transcript.gazette[52].guessed
transcript.gazette[52].end 2026-04-22T10:04:30.213000+08:00
transcript.gazette[52].text 那麼你有向主管整個國家能源政策的總統跟行政院長,提出核二廠、核三廠重啟大概多久可以完成的時程嗎?
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transcript.gazette[53].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[53].start 2026-04-22T10:04:31.073000+08:00
transcript.gazette[53].guessed
transcript.gazette[53].end 2026-04-22T10:04:41.294000+08:00
transcript.gazette[53].text 你在本委員會都不曾講,但是你曾經向總統跟行政院長報告過嗎?有嗎?沒有。
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transcript.gazette[54].speaker 陳主任委員明真
transcript.gazette[54].start 2026-04-22T10:04:42.314000+08:00
transcript.gazette[54].guessed
transcript.gazette[54].end 2026-04-22T10:04:46.176000+08:00
transcript.gazette[54].text 院長跟總統都沒有問過我們……
transcript.gazette[54].quality 1
transcript.gazette[55].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[55].start 2026-04-22T10:04:46.176000+08:00
transcript.gazette[55].guessed
transcript.gazette[55].end 2026-04-22T10:04:48.417000+08:00
transcript.gazette[55].text 他不曾問過你,那是「幹古」嘛!
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transcript.gazette[56].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[56].start 2026-04-22T10:04:48.417000+08:00
transcript.gazette[56].guessed 1
transcript.gazette[56].end 2026-04-22T10:04:57.100000+08:00
transcript.gazette[56].text 他就出一張嘴說要重啟核能,光講不實際行動,「捾籃仔假燒金」!
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transcript.gazette[57].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[57].start 2026-04-22T10:04:57.100000+08:00
transcript.gazette[57].guessed
transcript.gazette[57].end 2026-04-22T10:04:58.480000+08:00
transcript.gazette[57].text 連問都沒問過!
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transcript.gazette[58].speaker 陳主任委員明真
transcript.gazette[58].start 2026-04-22T10:04:58.480000+08:00
transcript.gazette[58].guessed
transcript.gazette[58].end 2026-04-22T10:05:00.781000+08:00
transcript.gazette[58].text 實際上不是核安會控制,是台電會決定……
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transcript.gazette[59].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[59].start 2026-04-22T10:05:03.362000+08:00
transcript.gazette[59].guessed
transcript.gazette[59].end 2026-04-22T10:05:05.364000+08:00
transcript.gazette[59].text 對啦,但他連問都沒問嘛!
transcript.gazette[59].quality 0.7
transcript.gazette[60].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[60].start 2026-04-22T10:05:05.904000+08:00
transcript.gazette[60].guessed
transcript.gazette[60].end 2026-04-22T10:05:13.431000+08:00
transcript.gazette[60].text 所以他沒有去掌握,我們臺灣能源這麼緊張、國際這麼緊張,結果想要重啟核能的時候,他只出一張嘴說要重啟核能,卻連問都沒有問,這很離譜欸!
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transcript.gazette[61].speaker 陳主任委員明真
transcript.gazette[61].start 2026-04-22T10:05:13.431000+08:00
transcript.gazette[61].guessed 1
transcript.gazette[61].end 2026-04-22T10:05:14.431000+08:00
transcript.gazette[61].text 沒有,委員不要時誤會,時程上,核安會沒有辦法決定時程……
transcript.gazette[61].quality 0
transcript.gazette[62].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[62].start 2026-04-22T10:05:13.571000+08:00
transcript.gazette[62].guessed
transcript.gazette[62].end 2026-04-22T10:05:15.192000+08:00
transcript.gazette[62].text 所以你確定他沒有問你就對了?
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transcript.gazette[63].speaker 陳主任委員明真
transcript.gazette[63].start 2026-04-22T10:05:35.230000+08:00
transcript.gazette[63].guessed
transcript.gazette[63].end 2026-04-22T10:05:39.235000+08:00
transcript.gazette[63].text 他沒有直接問這些問題啦,他當然會關心……
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transcript.gazette[64].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[64].start 2026-04-22T10:05:39.235000+08:00
transcript.gazette[64].guessed 1
transcript.gazette[64].end 2026-04-22T10:05:40.235000+08:00
transcript.gazette[64].text 怎麼關心?
transcript.gazette[64].quality 0
transcript.gazette[65].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[65].start 2026-04-22T10:05:40.235000+08:00
transcript.gazette[65].guessed 1
transcript.gazette[65].end 2026-04-22T10:05:41.235000+08:00
transcript.gazette[65].text 他怎麼關心?
transcript.gazette[65].quality 0
transcript.gazette[66].speaker 陳主任委員明真
transcript.gazette[66].start 2026-04-22T10:05:40.376000+08:00
transcript.gazette[66].guessed
transcript.gazette[66].end 2026-04-22T10:05:41.237000+08:00
transcript.gazette[66].text 重點是核安能夠確保……
transcript.gazette[66].quality 1
transcript.gazette[67].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[67].start 2026-04-22T10:05:41.277000+08:00
transcript.gazette[67].guessed
transcript.gazette[67].end 2026-04-22T10:05:41.738000+08:00
transcript.gazette[67].text 你不要為了要替他辯解,拿一個理由出來說。
transcript.gazette[67].quality 0.667
transcript.gazette[68].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[68].start 2026-04-22T10:05:41.738000+08:00
transcript.gazette[68].guessed
transcript.gazette[68].end 2026-04-22T10:05:59.190000+08:00
transcript.gazette[68].text 你慎重答復本席,他有關心、有問過你核能重啟差不多多久時間可以看到效果,或是多久時間可以重新運轉,這些都不曾問你嗎!
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transcript.gazette[69].speaker 陳主任委員明真
transcript.gazette[69].start 2026-04-22T10:05:59.370000+08:00
transcript.gazette[69].guessed
transcript.gazette[69].end 2026-04-22T10:06:00.511000+08:00
transcript.gazette[69].text 我有說明,這些問題我沒辦法給他確定的時間表……
transcript.gazette[69].quality 1
transcript.gazette[70].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[70].start 2026-04-22T10:06:00.591000+08:00
transcript.gazette[70].guessed
transcript.gazette[70].end 2026-04-22T10:06:01.291000+08:00
transcript.gazette[70].text 是,你沒有辦法給他時間表。
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transcript.gazette[71].speaker 陳主任委員明真
transcript.gazette[71].start 2026-04-22T10:06:01.491000+08:00
transcript.gazette[71].guessed
transcript.gazette[71].end 2026-04-22T10:06:02.451000+08:00
transcript.gazette[71].text 因為有很多因素會影響……
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transcript.gazette[72].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[72].start 2026-04-22T10:06:02.591000+08:00
transcript.gazette[72].guessed
transcript.gazette[72].end 2026-04-22T10:06:03.211000+08:00
transcript.gazette[72].text 你剛才跟我說他們都沒有問你喔!
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transcript.gazette[73].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[73].start 2026-04-22T10:06:21.419000+08:00
transcript.gazette[73].guessed
transcript.gazette[73].end 2026-04-22T10:06:22.499000+08:00
transcript.gazette[73].text 你要講清楚。
transcript.gazette[73].quality 1
transcript.gazette[74].speaker 陳主任委員明真
transcript.gazette[74].start 2026-04-22T10:06:23.980000+08:00
transcript.gazette[74].guessed
transcript.gazette[74].end 2026-04-22T10:06:31.023000+08:00
transcript.gazette[74].text 他有關心,他當然會關心,但是他沒有要求我什麼時候一定要完成審查,都沒有……
transcript.gazette[74].quality 0.875
transcript.gazette[75].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[75].start 2026-04-22T10:06:31.023000+08:00
transcript.gazette[75].guessed 1
transcript.gazette[75].end 2026-04-22T10:06:32.023000+08:00
transcript.gazette[75].text 他不會跟你要求,不過他有問過你嗎?
transcript.gazette[75].quality 0.2
transcript.gazette[76].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[76].start 2026-04-22T10:06:31.483000+08:00
transcript.gazette[76].guessed
transcript.gazette[76].end 2026-04-22T10:06:31.763000+08:00
transcript.gazette[76].text 你現在又說他有關心了喔!
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transcript.gazette[77].speaker 陳主任委員明真
transcript.gazette[77].start 2026-04-22T10:06:32.303000+08:00
transcript.gazette[77].guessed
transcript.gazette[77].end 2026-04-22T10:06:32.723000+08:00
transcript.gazette[77].text 他當然會關心啊!
transcript.gazette[77].quality 1
transcript.gazette[78].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[78].start 2026-04-22T10:06:32.904000+08:00
transcript.gazette[78].guessed
transcript.gazette[78].end 2026-04-22T10:06:34.524000+08:00
transcript.gazette[78].text 所以總統很擔心我們能源不足嘛!
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transcript.gazette[79].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[79].start 2026-04-22T10:06:34.824000+08:00
transcript.gazette[79].guessed
transcript.gazette[79].end 2026-04-22T10:06:37.485000+08:00
transcript.gazette[79].text 所以他有關心你,是你沒有給他答案,是這樣嗎?
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transcript.gazette[80].speaker 陳主任委員明真
transcript.gazette[80].start 2026-04-22T10:06:49.180000+08:00
transcript.gazette[80].guessed
transcript.gazette[80].end 2026-04-22T10:06:56.183000+08:00
transcript.gazette[80].text 不是,我們核安會立場是沒有辦法給個確定可以運轉的時間,因為很多因素可能會影響時程。
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transcript.gazette[81].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[81].start 2026-04-22T10:06:56.183000+08:00
transcript.gazette[81].guessed
transcript.gazette[81].end 2026-04-22T10:06:57.364000+08:00
transcript.gazette[81].text 到底總統跟院長是有關心還是沒關心?
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transcript.gazette[82].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[82].start 2026-04-22T10:06:57.364000+08:00
transcript.gazette[82].guessed 1
transcript.gazette[82].end 2026-04-22T10:06:58.364000+08:00
transcript.gazette[82].text 是有詢問你還是沒有?
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transcript.gazette[83].speaker 陳主任委員明真
transcript.gazette[83].start 2026-04-22T10:06:57.564000+08:00
transcript.gazette[83].guessed
transcript.gazette[83].end 2026-04-22T10:07:02.606000+08:00
transcript.gazette[83].text 他當然有關心,但我沒有辦法回答時間。
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transcript.gazette[84].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[84].start 2026-04-22T10:07:02.606000+08:00
transcript.gazette[84].guessed
transcript.gazette[84].end 2026-04-22T10:07:04.407000+08:00
transcript.gazette[84].text 有關心但沒問,沒問還可以關心?
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transcript.gazette[85].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[85].start 2026-04-22T10:07:04.568000+08:00
transcript.gazette[85].guessed
transcript.gazette[85].end 2026-04-22T10:07:04.648000+08:00
transcript.gazette[85].text 真厲害啊!
transcript.gazette[85].quality 1
transcript.gazette[86].speaker 謝委員龍介
transcript.gazette[86].start 2026-04-22T10:07:13.859000+08:00
transcript.gazette[86].guessed
transcript.gazette[86].end 2026-04-22T10:07:24.717000+08:00
transcript.gazette[86].text 你也很會回答,你實在很厲害,你剛才把這些問題都包在一起,「紅龜包豆餡」,沒有答案也沒有得罪人,又替總統辯解。不錯!
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transcript.gazette[87].speaker 主席
transcript.gazette[87].start 2026-04-22T10:07:25.217000+08:00
transcript.gazette[87].guessed 1
transcript.gazette[87].end 2026-04-22T10:07:26.645571+08:00
transcript.gazette[87].text 謝謝謝委員。
transcript.gazette[87].quality 0
transcript.gazette[88].speaker 主席
transcript.gazette[88].start 2026-04-22T10:07:26.945571+08:00
transcript.gazette[88].guessed 1
transcript.gazette[88].end 2026-04-22T10:07:29.231286+08:00
transcript.gazette[88].text 下一位郭昱晴委員。
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