iVOD / 168674

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IVOD_ID 168674
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168674
日期 2026-04-22
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-5-35-12
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第12次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 5
會議資料.會次 12
會議資料.種類 委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] 35
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 外交及國防委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第12次全體委員會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-04-22T09:45:41+08:00
結束時間 2026-04-22T09:52:16+08:00
影片長度 00:06:35
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
支援功能[1] gazette
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委員名稱 賴士葆
委員發言時間 09:45:41 - 09:52:16
會議時間 2026-04-22T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第12次全體委員會議(事由:一、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會主管收支部分。(僅詢答) 二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算關於國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會主管非營業基金-作業基金:(僅詢答) (一)國軍退除役官兵安置基金。 (二)榮民醫療作業基金。 (4月22日及23日二天一次會))
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 楊敏可以做得到嗎楊教導你幫忙做決定其實如果是我們共同發表的文章在榮總給的獎勵是非常高的那如果還不夠都可以討論可以再講話我現在跟你講
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 某私立大學對於研究因為大家大學排名這個然後回過來最後一句話認真去思考這是一個世界的趨勢這個現在來講是頭重腳輕台大比台大就好了醫學系醫學院的院長他的位階絕對高於醫院的院長雖然院長資源很多很偉大但是在榮總不是榮總是榮總院長大
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 陽明教大的醫學院的院長想基本上overall是這個樣子是不一樣的頭重腳輕現在是一個畸形的有bias你認認思考一下好不好這個今天就特別來這裡最後一點就是要肯定一下院長在主委面前肯定一下院長在找那個叫什麼院區來的什麼院區你說我們北榮信義院區北榮信義院區增加有多大
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 總共包括虎林街旁邊加起來快兩千坪造福台北市人民要去就醫比較方便這一點值得肯定九千多萬我們絕對支持謝謝
transcript.gazette[0].speaker 賴委員士葆
transcript.gazette[0].start 2026-04-22T09:45:41.549000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[0].text 謝謝主席,有請退輔會嚴主委以及北榮陳院長。
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transcript.gazette[1].speaker 主席
transcript.gazette[1].start 2026-04-22T09:45:42.790000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[1].text 請嚴主委、陳院長。
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transcript.gazette[2].speaker 嚴主任委員德發
transcript.gazette[2].start 2026-04-22T09:45:43.750000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[2].text 賴委員早。早。
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transcript.gazette[3].speaker 賴委員士葆
transcript.gazette[3].start 2026-04-22T09:45:44.011000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[3].text 大家都了解榮民體系主要分成三大塊,首先是榮民的就養,包括過去的跟現在的,大家關注的重點不一樣;再過來是農場;再過來是事業。
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transcript.gazette[4].start 2026-04-22T09:46:13.447000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[4].text 我今天跟你談的是養老跟事業,事業講的是投資,養老講的就是榮民總院,這有很大一塊。
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transcript.gazette[5].start 2026-04-22T09:46:24.654000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[5].text 現在我仔細讀了一下,在2026年美國媒體的評選、ranking中,主委知道榮總排名第幾名嗎?第174名。
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transcript.gazette[6].text 報告委員,榮總是前250家醫院中排名第174名,也是全臺灣的第一名。
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transcript.gazette[7].speaker 賴委員士葆
transcript.gazette[7].start 2026-04-22T09:46:51.065000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[7].text 這很厲害,對不對?
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transcript.gazette[8].speaker 賴委員士葆
transcript.gazette[8].start 2026-04-22T09:46:52.567000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[8].text 那臺大呢?第249名。
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transcript.gazette[9].speaker 賴委員士葆
transcript.gazette[9].start 2026-04-22T09:47:00.673000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[9].text 所以光以這個來講,陳院長當院長都委屈了,應該去當衛福部長還差不多,請問北榮一年賺多少錢?
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transcript.gazette[10].text 一年研究的部分二十幾億……
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transcript.gazette[11].speaker 賴委員士葆
transcript.gazette[11].start 2026-04-22T09:47:05.577000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[11].text 不是,是賺多少錢?
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transcript.gazette[12].speaker 陳院長威明
transcript.gazette[12].start 2026-04-22T09:47:06.018000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[12].text 業內只有賺1.14億。
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transcript.gazette[13].speaker 賴委員士葆
transcript.gazette[13].start 2026-04-22T09:47:06.258000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[13].text 還扣掉餐飲的部分嗎?
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transcript.gazette[14].speaker 陳院長威明
transcript.gazette[14].start 2026-04-22T09:47:23.232000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[14].text 餐飲算業務外的。
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transcript.gazette[15].text 所以就有一點多億?
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transcript.gazette[16].speaker 陳院長威明
transcript.gazette[16].start 2026-04-22T09:47:25.875000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[16].text 美食街、停車場加起來有兩點多億。
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transcript.gazette[17].speaker 賴委員士葆
transcript.gazette[17].start 2026-04-22T09:47:28.458000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[17].text 臺大有多少?
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transcript.gazette[18].speaker 陳院長威明
transcript.gazette[18].start 2026-04-22T09:47:30.280000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[18].text 我不知道臺大的數據。
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transcript.gazette[19].speaker 賴委員士葆
transcript.gazette[19].start 2026-04-22T09:47:31.741000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[19].text 好,我現在跟你講一個大哉問的題目,就是主委有沒有考慮過,為了榮總的長遠發展,讓榮總跟陽明合併?
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transcript.gazette[20].start 2026-04-22T09:47:47.829000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[20].text 而且是併到教育部,而不是退輔會,這是一個很大的問題,先聽我講完,你現在已經這麼頂尖了,好的醫院基本上都在大學裡面,比如說Harvard、Johns Hopkins等等,很少是自己一個體系變成一個很top的醫院或是醫學大學等等的,畢竟這可以有一個強而有力的學術單位來給你backup。
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transcript.gazette[21].start 2026-04-22T09:48:15.184000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[21].text 我也仔細查了一下,發現臺大的論文數比你強,基礎研究比你強,跨領域的研究比你強,榮總強的就是臨床醫學、專科發展與應用,所以這中間的比較還是有區別的。
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transcript.gazette[22].text 如果以SCI來講,臺大在這部分是遙遙領先榮總的,我講的對吧?
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transcript.gazette[23].text 報告敬愛的委員,其實陽明交大跟榮總現在的關係是非常密切,雖然沒有結婚,但是很早就睡在一起,大家感情很好。
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transcript.gazette[24].text 很早就睡在一起,你這個比喻很好!
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transcript.gazette[25].start 2026-04-22T09:48:52.711000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[25].text 但要怎麼睡在一起呢?
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transcript.gazette[26].text 因為我也是陽明交大的教授,是兼任的,而陽明交大醫學院的院長是我們的副院長,所以我們關係很密切,但是不見得……
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transcript.gazette[27].start 2026-04-22T09:49:04.318000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[27].text 我要強調的就是這一點,雖然我這樣比喻不見得很好,但請問你,臺大醫學院的院長比較大還是臺大醫院的院長比較大?
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transcript.gazette[28].start 2026-04-22T09:49:16.863000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[28].text 兩個都是我的好朋友,我覺得兩個都滿大的……
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transcript.gazette[29].speaker 賴委員士葆
transcript.gazette[29].start 2026-04-22T09:49:20.184000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[29].end 2026-04-22T09:49:21.645000+08:00
transcript.gazette[29].text 不能講兩個都滿大的啦!
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transcript.gazette[30].speaker 陳院長威明
transcript.gazette[30].start 2026-04-22T09:49:21.905000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[30].text 理論上,臺灣大學醫學院附設醫院看起來好像是醫學院院長比較大,但醫院是由院長在管理,所以兩個都一樣大。
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transcript.gazette[31].start 2026-04-22T09:49:27.867000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[31].text 醫學院當然比較大,所以照理講,陽明交大醫學院的院長應該要比榮總院長大,可是大家都知道榮總院長比較大,所以你們現在雖然睡在一起,但位置不一樣,對不對?
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transcript.gazette[32].start 2026-04-22T09:49:38.193000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[32].text 現在來講是榮總比較大,不是陽交大比較大,我這樣講對不對?
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transcript.gazette[33].speaker 陳院長威明
transcript.gazette[33].start 2026-04-22T09:49:38.894000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[33].text 關於研究的事情,我要澄清一下,現在我們的研究都是共同發表,我們加起來的量能跟臺大其實沒有差很多……
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transcript.gazette[34].start 2026-04-22T09:49:41.195000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[34].text 還是輸啦!
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transcript.gazette[35].speaker 陳院長威明
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transcript.gazette[35].text 史丹佛大學公布的前2%頂尖科學家中,最好的臨床醫學領域的研究學者,北榮跟臺大相比,其實一點都沒有輸。
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transcript.gazette[36].start 2026-04-22T09:50:11.119000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[36].text 你們那都是頂尖的,比如說Nature、Science,你跟臺大比還是輸!
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transcript.gazette[37].speaker 陳院長威明
transcript.gazette[37].start 2026-04-22T09:50:17.263000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[37].text 平均的impact factor非常相近,我們就是算那個影響因子,其實已經非常接近了。
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transcript.gazette[38].speaker 賴委員士葆
transcript.gazette[38].start 2026-04-22T09:50:22.686000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[38].text 對於學人,也就是醫學系的這些教授們,其實鼓勵他們去做研究……
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transcript.gazette[39].speaker 陳院長威明
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transcript.gazette[39].text 有、有、有。
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transcript.gazette[40].speaker 賴委員士葆
transcript.gazette[40].start 2026-04-22T09:50:30.412000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[40].text 這一部分不太夠啦!
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transcript.gazette[41].speaker 陳院長威明
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transcript.gazette[41].text 是,我們再關係密切。
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transcript.gazette[42].start 2026-04-22T09:50:36.354000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[42].text 我最後就問你一個問題,某一個私立大學說,若能發表一篇在SCI裡面,impact factor就有一定的weight,比如5分以上就很了不起了,然後就可以給他免教一門課,請問陽交大可以做得到嗎?
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transcript.gazette[43].text 這涉及陽交大,你沒辦法做決定啊!
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transcript.gazette[44].speaker 陳院長威明
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transcript.gazette[44].text 如果是我們共同發表的文章,在榮總給的獎勵是非常高的,如果還不夠,都可以討論,但是已經給得很高了。
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transcript.gazette[45].text 我現在就跟你講,某私立大學對於研究的部分很重視,因為這攸關大學的排名,所以回過來最後一句話,請認真去思考,這是一個世界的趨勢,現在來講是頭重腳輕,跟臺大比就好了,醫學院的院長,位階絕對高於醫院的院長,雖然院長資源很多、很偉大,但是在榮總不是,你們是榮總院長大,陽明交大醫學院的院長小,所以基本上、overall是這個樣子,是不一樣的,頭重腳輕,現在是一個畸型的、有bias的,所以請你認真思考一下,好不好?
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transcript.gazette[46].speaker 賴委員士葆
transcript.gazette[46].start 2026-04-22T09:51:50.370000+08:00
transcript.gazette[46].guessed
transcript.gazette[46].end 2026-04-22T09:51:56.554000+08:00
transcript.gazette[46].text 最後一點,在主委面前要肯定一下院長,就是有一個什麼院區……
transcript.gazette[46].quality 0.68
transcript.gazette[47].speaker 陳院長威明
transcript.gazette[47].start 2026-04-22T09:51:58.756000+08:00
transcript.gazette[47].guessed
transcript.gazette[47].end 2026-04-22T09:52:00.597000+08:00
transcript.gazette[47].text 我們北榮信義院區。
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transcript.gazette[48].speaker 賴委員士葆
transcript.gazette[48].start 2026-04-22T09:52:01.458000+08:00
transcript.gazette[48].guessed
transcript.gazette[48].end 2026-04-22T09:52:03.459000+08:00
transcript.gazette[48].text 院區有多大?
transcript.gazette[48].quality 1
transcript.gazette[49].speaker 陳院長威明
transcript.gazette[49].start 2026-04-22T09:52:05.146000+08:00
transcript.gazette[49].guessed
transcript.gazette[49].end 2026-04-22T09:52:07.107000+08:00
transcript.gazette[49].text 包括虎林街旁邊,加起來總共快兩千坪。
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transcript.gazette[50].speaker 賴委員士葆
transcript.gazette[50].start 2026-04-22T09:52:07.828000+08:00
transcript.gazette[50].guessed
transcript.gazette[50].end 2026-04-22T09:52:13.353000+08:00
transcript.gazette[50].text 這是造福臺北市人民,讓他們就醫比較方便,這點值得肯定,九千多萬我們絕對支持,謝謝。
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transcript.gazette[51].speaker 陳院長威明
transcript.gazette[51].start 2026-04-22T09:52:13.853000+08:00
transcript.gazette[51].guessed 1
transcript.gazette[51].end 2026-04-22T09:52:14.995857+08:00
transcript.gazette[51].text 謝謝委員。
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transcript.gazette[52].speaker 嚴主任委員德發
transcript.gazette[52].start 2026-04-22T09:52:15.295857+08:00
transcript.gazette[52].guessed 1
transcript.gazette[52].end 2026-04-22T09:52:16.438714+08:00
transcript.gazette[52].text 謝謝委員。
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transcript.gazette[53].speaker 主席(王委員定宇代)
transcript.gazette[53].start 2026-04-22T09:52:16.738714+08:00
transcript.gazette[53].guessed 1
transcript.gazette[53].end 2026-04-22T09:52:19.881571+08:00
transcript.gazette[53].text 謝謝賴士葆委員,各位請回。
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transcript.gazette[54].speaker 主席(王委員定宇代)
transcript.gazette[54].start 2026-04-22T09:52:20.181571+08:00
transcript.gazette[54].guessed 1
transcript.gazette[54].end 2026-04-22T09:52:24.181571+08:00
transcript.gazette[54].text 接下來進行詢答的是牛煦庭委員。
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