| IVOD_ID |
168643 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168643 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第7次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第7次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-21T09:29:58+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-21T09:45:38+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:40 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a5162d46ac0a8089a4e706af195f5eb60b71058f854e4ac4d52ebcbdb0beb1d79240d0f21f4d974d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張智倫 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:29:58 - 09:45:38 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第7次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院國民黨黨團，建請院會作成決議：「針對開放印度移工來台，國人深感憂心，要求行政院院長率相關部會首長向立法院提出『開放印度移工來台對我國整體勞工政策與社會治安的衝擊及相關配套（含強化國與國直聘制度及失聯移工強制遣返機制）防治作為』專案報告，並備質詢。」是否有當？請公決案等4案。（4月17日）二、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。（4月17日）三、邀請行政院院長、主計長、財政部部長列席報告「115年度中央政府總預算案」編製經過並備質詢（含志願役軍人加薪及警消人員退休金等預算編製處理情形併予報告）。（4月21日）四、4月17日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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好謝謝主席各位委員各位官員大家早有請我們行政院總太院長總院長備詢 |
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商務委員好院長好今天是我們行政院115年中央政府總預算的報告那很開心今天可以看到我們院長上台首先我也要謝謝不管是我們的韓國瑜院長或我們江啟臣副院長在 |
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這個預算案卡關以後來努力來進行草野協商讓草野的僵局有機會破冰那也讓未來我們的總預算有機會復違那這邊首先也要跟院長報告其實在野黨其實也以民生為念也把這個新興計畫裡面的781億的新興計畫也主動來通過就是希望說草野之間的紛爭可以來化解 |
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那可是也要跟院長報告國家各項的政策推動是非常重要可是立法院三讀通過的法律案也非常重要所以關於我們在野黨所關心的軍人待遇條例以及警察人事條例這兩個條例我希望我們在野誠意十足可是中央不要溝通不足我現在看到這個 |
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今天的專案報告裡面的內容還是說在半年內會跟朝野在野黨來進行溝通那本席想問這個第一個到底現在行政院未來這個就針對我們軍人加薪跟這個警察人士條例你們修法的現在的未來的考量是什麼可不可以簡單說明一下 |
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當然通過這兩項的修正案我們第一個認為雖然是法律案但實質上是增加了政府的財政支出所以這跟預算案憲法的精神都不相符合因此我們在基於國家財政紀律以及憲政遵守的情況底下我們提出了釋憲 |
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那事件之後我們已經說過很多次事件之後如果是合憲我們就追加而且追溯到今年1月要開始那如果是違憲那當然就不能變這沒有問題 |
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但如果像這一次在大院這個朝野協商的過程當中是希望行政院在總預算復違之後的半年提出一套可行的針對這兩項以及軍公教整個待遇的一個調整一個想法那我們是可以來這樣做的因為政府過去到現在對軍公教的這個福利待遇從來不會不予考量而且非常重視剛剛在裡面報告過了 |
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光是去年這一年賴總統五項對軍人的佳績146億不能說是不多但是應該還有更可以加強的地方我們就從這個空間來把它找出來既符合大院的期待委員的期待也更符合對國軍的照顧更注重到國家的財政紀律也符合憲政的精神我們來討論出一套可行的方法但院長你們現在行政院有跟相關部會討論有相關的這個辦法出來了嗎 |
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很感謝我們有六個月的時間但是我跟大院來我們一起來溝通我們希望能夠在總預算案儘速復為審查之後我們衡量整個國家未來的財政狀況我們從各種方面我們寬烈的方式來討論到未來軍公教人員的各種待遇我們儘速地來做這樣的工作本席要提醒院長 |
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因為在野黨我們所的想法就是說要保護所有軍人跟我們公教人員不只是限職的退休的人員都要保護所以我希望說行政院推行的未來的方針的時候不能只有說不管是限職或是退休人員的這個照顧都一定要照顧到那接下來我也要再請教院長的事 |
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那很多這個公教人員說那因為我們這個警察跟警察跟軍人的我們通過是在113年底通過的可是我們在114年底我們也有通過一個軍公教人員退休金停侃的這個問題那我是不是也請教這個我們主計長這個預算有沒有編列在116年的預算 |
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如果我們細細的來分這兩個修正草案一個是113年通過的法律案一個是114年通過的法律案有它在時間上、內容上競合跟衝突之處 |
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會不會說這個114年我們通過的公教人員停侃退休金的這個還是沒有編列變成說全部又要再像今年這樣子又要大家朝野要有意見我們是不是請主席講有沒有編列也跟委員報告一下116年度籌編還沒開始現在才開始進行會編列嗎 |
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這個編列的部分還是要看整個一個我們將來跟所有相關的公務人員去討論它整個一個橫平性所以這個部分就是要看將來那個整個確定之後軍公教包括我們公務人員一起做通盤的一個考量 |
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所以主席長的意思是不是說包含113年我們所修的軍人加薪跟我們警察人員人事條例以及114年底通過的所有年金填砍的都會在116年的預算整體來討論整體來編列是這樣子嗎不是我們目前正在研議當中但是是怎麼編列都一直還沒有定案是這樣子 |
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當然不管是韓院長或者是我們江副院長的協商是沒有提到這個還沒有提到這個軍公教因為這是114年通過的法律案所以我希望說如果可以的話就整體一起來討論那當然我也不希望說這樣就破壞朝野和諧的結論好不好請主計長跟院長這邊因為我相信這三個案都是對所有我們所有的公務人員不管現職跟退休的福利跟照顧所以希望說本席希望說可以一起來討論可以嗎 |
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就已經生效的法案我們會當作但是如果是沒有生效的法案以及在事件當中的我們會擷取他的精神來看看如何在未來在國家財政的紀律跟永續情況底下我們如何擴大來照顧各種國家的軍公教人員這個我們會跟大嶼一起來協商我覺得我們已經建立了好的開始就要有好的發展 |
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好 那最後我們期待一個更優的結果好 所以謝謝院長在大院做出承諾說會大家一起來討論吧所有這些憲政大家朝野有意見的部分大家一起共同來討論好 謝謝第二個我要來請教其實上次在這個質詢的時候也請教過院長 |
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針對行政院經貿辦公室這個嚴父總代表有關於霸凌案其實現在已經過了三個禮拜可是本席比較擔心的是目前調查小組的進度本席是感覺到非常的緩慢聽說現在還是在這個停留在問卷的階段本席是想要說 |
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現在行政院的回覆是說還要兩個月的調查的時間這是法定期間我瞭解這是法定最長的期間可是針對過去不管教育部前次長的這個台大性平安或是勞動部 |
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這個謝宜榮無性公務人員這個上升的這個事件只要兩個禮拜就已經提出初步報告所以我本席是不是在這邊也要為我們廣大的公務人員因為本席等一下還會跟你講還有非常多的霸凌案澄清到本席這邊是不是政府單位可以展現態度不是說尤其現在社會矚目的霸凌案是不是應該加速來調查而不是用法定期間最長的兩個月不然以後公務人員 |
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他們在職場被霸凌的時候他們看到政府單位都是在現場的法定時間來看是不是有機會加速來調查進度人事長應該了解我先為委員報告這件事情我們特別特別的慎重所以我們唯一請是四位外部的委員 |
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所以我們要尊重外部委員他們也開了四次以上的會議問卷也回收了那我希望給他們更多的時間因為這件比過去不一樣是這件當事人他不幸已經往生對當事人是沒有辦法詢問必須從周遭環境過去過去我本席了解跟院長報告過去是重大霸凌案的調查情形才要再到兩個月所以你認為這是重大霸凌案嗎 |
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我說當事人不是往生我們很遺憾沒有辦法能夠詢問他當事人所以我們必須從周遭的同事工作的環境時間的這個落差等等那至於現在進行的進度如何人事長最清楚那我希望說我們能夠盡快來解答一下好不好我跟委員報告目前文件都回收現在有四位外聘的委員他們針對文件內容在密集開會討論因為這個案件坦白講 |
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行政院一直用最嚴謹的態度在處理所以希望給我們適合的時間因為就是院長所提的兩個月法定時間我們會盡量在這個法定時間裡面把整個調查報告的一個初稿情況來呈現出來 |
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好 謝謝那本席也要說也要拜託院長其實我發現行政單位還是有非常多現在一直在產生的霸凌案比如說叫本席就有收到這個速發部所補助的支撐會也有相關的霸凌案現在這個受害的這個同仁就有自殘的情形 |
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那他連當事人到現在都不敢出面把這個他備受霸凌的事實給本席所以本席也愛莫難助所以拜託還是請院長這邊行政單位還是要一套整體的就是防止這個購物機關有霸凌的這樣的事情 |
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謝謝委員 因為極端重視霸凌事件是否存在那我們也會嚴謹的態度也請求委員如果有手上的這些案例 儘快把它提出來我們儘快的減少它存在的時間跟事實那做有效的處置 這拜託委員好 謝謝院長 好 謝謝我們好 再來我也要在這邊 再拜託院長就是說現在我們政府總預算即將復違可是我們還有非常多的人事案 |
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是我本席認為是有缺乏積極度跟財政紀律本席當時也在這邊請教過你不管是中選會NCC這麼重要的職位其實面臨著長期的這個 |
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很多我們中選會的委員人的空缺那本席是不是要拜託你針對中選會NCC的人事權同意案請問行政院當然中選會現在目前來講目前是四個人那立法院通過世襲那在中選會通過重大決議的時候要9到12人所以是不是院長這邊什麼時候把他們給這個任命 |
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那什麼時候還要再補提名是不是可以請院長在這邊說明一下因為總預算就要附委不可能讓這些代理的這個主委或者是主委來接受備詢吧請院長回答我很感謝委員 |
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能夠在這裡說出中選會的組織他必須有九到十一人重大決策的時候是那他這個九到十一他的基本的設置的標準那我們現在四位再加上現在的通過的四位也不過八位還是有瑕疵所以我一直期待我跟韓院長還有我透過民進黨黨團執政黨黨團也跟在野黨黨團提說我們是不是可以必須也必須啦把其他還有三位的名額一併的送出來 |
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那這個我們一直在努力過程當中那有沒有預計什麼時候會提出因為已經總預算要付為了總不可能請代理主委來備詢吧是 我們會努力啊 盡快來提出是不是一個月以內有沒有機會不要那麼久不用那麼久嗎不用那麼久一個月以內提出這個未來不管NCC中選會的人士因為這個我們還要經過一些我要貿然的提出 萬一 |
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又沒有辦法緊縮的排入那對現在拜託來擔任這個被提名人的被同意人的這三位又非常的難以跟他們開口所以這個部分還要經過一些溝通那我認為這溝通在今天總預算這樣的方式之下溝通是良性的好 謝謝大家謝謝院長也表示說一個月之內進行協商溝通提出人選好那最後我是不是時間暫停一下我請財政部部長請莊部長 |
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好謝謝院長財政部莊部長那去年我記得在大家朝野和諧的狀況下我們有普發現金一萬元那當時行政院其實後來也樂觀其成在我們所有這個民眾的存摺上面普發現金都有一個備註就是說普發現金是行政院發放 |
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最近我們可以看到台灣因為AI產業鏈還有我們的科技業蓬勃發展所以政府不管是我們的稅收數字應該都創新高不管是政府因為AI產業鏈我們的很多上市貴公司營業額上升以及我們現在股市最近新聞也產生出也報告出每天的每日的台股交易量 |
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突破9000億的這個交易量所以我想請教財政部部長是不是最近這幾個月我們的稅收是成長非常的多跟委員報告最近的一到三月的稅收全國數是6555億元但是因為財化法修正以後地方所獲配的稅款包含地方稅跟中央統籌分配稅款它是倍增的 |
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成長百分之一百一十所以我們在野黨也有提出來是不是說未來有機會超收稅收的部分可以來普發現金或是用什麼樣的方法是不是請部長回答但是到目前為止一到三月中央的稅客收入是增速比去年同期是減少353億元是目前來說 |
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好 謝謝 |
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張委員智倫 |
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謝謝主席。 |
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張委員智倫 |
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各位委員、各位官員，大家早。 |
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張委員智倫 |
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有請行政院卓榮泰院長。 |
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主席 |
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請卓院長備詢。 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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張委員好。 |
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張委員智倫 |
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院長早。 |
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張委員智倫 |
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今天是行政院115年中央政府總預算的報告，很開心今天可以看到卓院長上臺。 |
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張委員智倫 |
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首先我們也要謝謝不管是韓國瑜院長或江啟臣副院長，在總預算案卡關以後，努力地來進行朝野協商，讓朝野的僵局有機會破冰，也讓未來總預算有機會付委。 |
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張委員智倫 |
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這邊首先也要跟院長報告，在野黨其實也以民生為念，也把總預算裡面781億的新興計畫主動通過，就是希望朝野之間的紛爭可以來化解。 |
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張委員智倫 |
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可是也要跟院長報告，國家各項政策的推動非常重要，可是立法院三讀通過的法律案也非常重要，所以，關於我們在野黨所關心的軍人待遇條例以及警察人事條例這兩個條例，我希望，我們在野誠意十足，可是中央不要溝通不足。 |
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張委員智倫 |
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我現在看到今天專案報告裡面的內容，還是說在半年內會跟在野黨進行溝通，本席想問，第一個，到底行政院現在針對軍人加薪跟警察人事條例，你們未來修法的考量是什麼，可不可以簡單說明一下？ |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T09:32:13.664000+08:00 |
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大院通過的這兩項修正案，第一個，我們認為雖然是法律案，但實質上是增加政府的財政支出，所以這跟預算法以及憲法的精神都不相符合，因此，基於遵守國家財政紀律以及憲政規範的原則下，我們提出了釋憲。 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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釋憲結果出爐後，我們已經說過很多次，釋憲之後如果是合憲，我們就追加預算而且追溯到今年1月1號開始；如果是違憲，那當然就不能編，這沒有問題。 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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但如果像這一次，在大院朝野協商的過程當中，是希望行政院在總預算付委之後的半年，提出一套可行的、針對這兩項以及軍公教整個待遇調整的想法，那我們是可以這樣做的。 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T09:33:06.827000+08:00 |
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因為政府過去到現在，對軍公教的福利待遇從來不會不予考量，而且非常重視。 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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剛剛也報告過了，光是去年這一年，賴總統五項對軍人的加給共146億，不能說是不多，但是應該還有更多可以加強的地方，我們就把這個空間找出來，既符合大院的期待、委員的期待，也更符合對國軍的照顧，更注重到國家的財政紀律，也符合憲政的精神，我們來討論出一套可行的方法。 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:33:38.684000+08:00 |
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院長，行政院現在有跟相關部會討論，有相關的辦法出來了嗎？ |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T09:33:44.787000+08:00 |
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很感謝我們有六個月的時間，讓我們跟大院一起來溝通，我們希望能夠在總預算案儘速付委審查之後，衡量整個國家未來的財政狀況，我們從各種方面用寬列的方式，來討論未來軍公教人員的各種待遇，我們儘速地來做這樣的溝通。好。 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:34:06.598000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:34:15.702000+08:00 |
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這邊本席要提醒院長，因為我們在野黨所有的想法就是要保護所有的軍人跟公教人員，不只是…… |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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我們的立場都是一樣。 |
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張委員智倫 |
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現職的、退休的人員…… |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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都要保護到，都要保護。 |
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張委員智倫 |
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都要保障。 |
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張委員智倫 |
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所以我希望未來行政院所推行的方針，不管是現職或是退休人員的照顧，都一定要照顧。 |
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張委員智倫 |
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接下來我要再請教院長的是，很多公教人員說，因為警察跟軍人的待遇修正案是在113年底通過的，可是我們在114年底也有通過一個軍公教人員退休金停砍的修正案，我也要請教主計長，這個預算有沒有編列在116年的預算案中？ |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T09:34:57.056000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:35:00.381000+08:00 |
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如果我們細細的來分這兩個修正草案…… |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:35:00.661000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:35:05.369000+08:00 |
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一個是113年通過的法律案，一個是114年底通過的法律案。 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T09:35:05.489000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:35:07.812000+08:00 |
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確實有它在時間上、內容上競合跟衝突之處。 |
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0.889 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:35:09.786000+08:00 |
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會不會114年我們通過的公教人員停砍退休金的這個部分還是沒有編列，變成全部又要再像今年這樣子，朝野又要有意見？ |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:35:20.758000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:35:21.659000+08:00 |
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請問主計長，有沒有編列？ |
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陳主計長淑姿 |
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2026-04-21T09:35:22.100000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:35:23.881000+08:00 |
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也跟委員報告一下，116年度籌編還沒開始，現在才開始進行。 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:35:23.982000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:35:24.002000+08:00 |
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會編列嗎？ |
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1 |
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陳主計長淑姿 |
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2026-04-21T09:35:28.687000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:35:44.668000+08:00 |
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編列的部分還是要看我們將來跟所有相關的公務人員去討論它整個衡平性，所以這個部分就是要看將來整個確定之後，軍公教包括我們公務人員一起做通盤的考量。 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:35:45.529000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:36:02.074000+08:00 |
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所以院長，主計長的意思是不是說，包含113年我們所修的軍人加薪、警察人員人事條例，以及114年底通過的所有年金停砍的，都會在116年的預算整體來討論、整體來編列，是這樣子嗎？ |
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0.943 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
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2026-04-21T09:36:02.074000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:36:07.996000+08:00 |
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不是，我們目前正在研議當中，但是是怎麼編列都一直還沒有定案，是這樣子。 |
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| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:36:09.640000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:36:27.112000+08:00 |
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當然不管是韓院長或者是江副院長的協商是還沒有提到軍公教的部分，因為這是114年通過的法律案，所以我希望如果可以的話就整體一起來討論，當然我也不希望這樣就破壞朝野和諧的結論，好不好？ |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:36:27.772000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:36:38.519000+08:00 |
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請主計長跟院長，因為我相信這三個案都是對我們所有的公務人員，不管是現職跟退休的福利跟照顧，所以本席希望可以一起來討論，可以嗎？ |
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0.983 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T09:36:39.921000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:36:42.443000+08:00 |
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就已經生效的法案，我們會當作討論的基礎…… |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:36:42.443000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-21T09:36:44.585000+08:00 |
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因為都有可能會編在116年的預算嘛。 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T09:36:44.585000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:37:01.640000+08:00 |
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但是如果是沒有生效的法案，以及在釋憲當中的，我們會擷取它的精神來看看如何在未來，在國家財政紀律跟永續的情況底下，我們如何擴大來照顧各種國家的軍公教人員，這個我們會跟大院一起來協商。 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T09:37:02.260000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:37:08.446000+08:00 |
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我覺得我們已經建立了好的開始，就要有好的發展，最後我們期待一個更優的結果。 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:37:09.408000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:37:19.381000+08:00 |
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謝謝院長在大院做出承諾說會大家一起來討論，把所有這些跟憲政相關、朝野有意見的部分，大家一起共同來討論。 |
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0.915 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:37:19.381000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:37:20.422000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝。 |
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| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:37:20.422000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:37:55.299000+08:00 |
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第二個我要來請教的是，其實上次在質詢的時候也請教過院長，針對行政院經貿辦公室顏副總談判代表有關於霸凌案，其實現在已經過了三個禮拜，可是本席比較擔心的是，目前調查小組的進度本席是感覺到非常的緩慢，聽說現在還是停留在問卷的階段，本席是想要說，現在行政院的回復是還要兩個月的調查時間。 |
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0.946 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T09:37:55.299000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:37:56.459000+08:00 |
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這是法定期間。 |
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| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:37:56.459000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:38:44.232000+08:00 |
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我了解，這是法定最長的期間，可是針對過去不管是教育部前次長的臺大性平案，或是勞動部的謝宜容，吳姓公務人員喪生的事件，只要兩個禮拜就已經提出初步報告，所以本席在這邊也要為我們廣大的公務人員，因為本席等一下還會跟你講，還有非常多的霸凌案陳情到本席這邊，是不是政府單位可以展現態度，尤其現在社會矚目的霸凌案，是不是應該加速來調查，而不是用法定期間最長的兩個月，不然以後公務人員在職場被霸凌的時候，他們看到政府單位都以最長的法定時間來看，是不是有機會加速來調查？ |
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0.934 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T09:38:44.753000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:38:46.255000+08:00 |
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這個進度人事長應該了解。 |
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0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T09:38:46.615000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:39:10.277000+08:00 |
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我先跟委員報告，這件事情我們特別特別的慎重，所以我們委請4位外部的委員，我們要尊重外部委員，他們也開了4次以上的會議，問卷也回收了，我希望給他們更多的時間，因為這件跟過去不一樣的是，這件的當事人已經不幸往生，對當事人是沒有辦法詢問，必須從周遭、環境、過去來做了解。 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:39:11.398000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:39:18.123000+08:00 |
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就本席了解，跟院長報告，過去是重大霸凌案的調查情形才要到兩個月，所以你認為這是重大霸凌案嗎？ |
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0.976 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T09:39:18.794000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:39:34.923000+08:00 |
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我是說當事人不幸往生，我們很遺憾沒有辦法詢問他本人，所以我們必須從周遭的同事、工作的環境、時間的落差等等，至於現在進行的進度如何，人事長最清楚，我希望我們能夠儘快來完成。 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:39:35.364000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:39:35.604000+08:00 |
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人事長請簡答一下。 |
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0.375 |
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蘇人事長俊榮 |
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2026-04-21T09:39:36.024000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:40:05.806000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，目前問卷都回收，現在有4位外聘的委員，他們針對問卷內容在密集開會討論，因為這這個案件坦白講，行政院一直用最嚴謹的態度在處理，所以希望給我們適合的時間，因為就是院長所提的兩個月法定時間，我們會儘量在這個法定時間裡面把整個調查報告的初稿呈現出來。 |
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0.949 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:40:06.967000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:40:08.189000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝。 |
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1 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:40:08.529000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:40:35.109000+08:00 |
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本席也要拜託院長，其實我發現行政單位現在還是一直產生非常多的霸凌案，比如本席就有收到數發部所補助的資策會也有相關的霸凌案，現在受害的同仁就有自殘的情形，當事人到現在都不敢出面把他遭受霸凌的事實給本席，所以本席也愛莫能助。 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:40:36.090000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:40:43.892000+08:00 |
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因此還是請院長這邊，行政單位還是要有一套整體防止公務機關產生霸凌這樣的事情。 |
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| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-04-21T09:40:44.432000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:40:58.022000+08:00 |
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謝謝委員，行政院極端重視霸凌事件是否存在，我們也會用嚴謹的態度，也請求委員，如果手上有這些案例，儘快把它提出來，我們儘快的減少它存在的時間跟事實，做有效的處置，再拜託委員。 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:40:58.022000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:40:59.803000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝院長，謝謝。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:41:00.884000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:41:49.373000+08:00 |
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再來我也要在這邊再拜託院長，現在政府總預算即將付委，可是還有非常多人事案，本席認為是缺乏積極度跟財政紀律，本席上次也在這邊請教過你，包括中選會、NCC，這麼重要的職位長期面臨空缺，本席是不是拜託你針對中選會、NCC的人事權同意案……中選會目前來講是4個人，立法院通過了4席，但是中選會要通過重大決議需要9到12人，請問院長這邊什麼時候任命他們？ |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:41:52.555000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:41:53.596000+08:00 |
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什麼時候還要再補提名？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:41:53.956000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:41:56.018000+08:00 |
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是不是可以請院長在這邊說明一下？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:41:56.218000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:42:04.243000+08:00 |
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因為總預算就要付委了，不可能讓這些代理主委來接受備詢吧！ |
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0.923 |
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張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:42:05.203000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:42:05.624000+08:00 |
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請院長回答。 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-04-21T09:42:06.244000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:42:10.988000+08:00 |
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我很感謝委員能夠在這裡說出中選會的組織必須有9到11人。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
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2026-04-21T09:42:11.288000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:42:12.249000+08:00 |
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重大決策的時候。 |
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| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-04-21T09:42:13.370000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:42:21.817000+08:00 |
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這個9到11人是基本的設置標準，我們現在有4位，再加上現在通過的4位，也不過8位，還是有瑕疵。 |
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0.917 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-04-21T09:42:22.517000+08:00 |
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2026-04-21T09:42:36.689000+08:00 |
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所以我一直期待，我跟韓院長，還有我透過民進黨黨團、執政黨黨團，也跟在野黨黨團提出，我們是不是可以、也必須把其他3位名額一併送出來？ |
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卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-04-21T09:42:38.306000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-04-21T09:42:39.627000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
這個我們一直在努力過程當中。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-04-21T09:42:40.488000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-04-21T09:42:41.809000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
有沒有預計什麼時候會提出？ |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-04-21T09:42:42.570000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-04-21T09:42:45.993000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
因為總預算已經要付委了，總不可能請代理主委來備詢吧！ |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-04-21T09:42:46.613000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-04-21T09:42:48.755000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
是，我們會努力儘快提出。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-04-21T09:42:49.276000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-04-21T09:42:50.417000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
是不是一個月以內？ |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-04-21T09:42:50.417000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-04-21T09:42:52.318000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
有沒有機會？ |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-04-21T09:42:52.318000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-04-21T09:42:52.699000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
不必要那麼久。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-04-21T09:42:53.339000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-04-21T09:42:55.281000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
不用那麼久嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-04-21T09:42:55.281000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-04-21T09:42:55.581000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
不用那麼久。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-04-21T09:42:55.701000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-04-21T09:42:59.625000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
不用那麼久，一個月以內會提出不管是NCC或中選會的人事。 |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.654 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-04-21T09:43:00.586000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-04-21T09:43:23.382000+08:00 |
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因為我們還要經過一些……我若貿然提出，萬一又沒有辦法儘速排入，對於現在拜託來擔任被同意人的這三位，又非常難以跟他們開口，所以這個部分還要經過一些溝通，我認為這個溝通在今天總預算這樣的方式之下，溝通是良性的。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-04-21T09:43:24.023000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-04-21T09:43:25.704000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
好，謝謝院長。 |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-04-21T09:43:25.704000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-04-21T09:43:29.467000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
也表示一個月之內進行協商溝通、提出人選。 |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-04-21T09:43:29.847000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-04-21T09:43:32.669000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
最後是不是時間暫停一下，我請財政部部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-04-21T09:43:32.669000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-04-21T09:43:32.689000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
請莊部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-04-21T09:43:54.445000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-04-21T09:43:55.166000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
謝謝院長。 |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-04-21T09:43:55.166000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-04-21T09:44:14.637000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
財政部莊部長，去年我記得在朝野和諧狀況下我們有普發現金1萬元，行政院後來也樂觀其成，在所有民眾的存摺上面普發現金都有一個備註，就是普發現金是行政院發放。 |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-04-21T09:44:16.158000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-04-21T09:44:42.818000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
最近我們可以看到臺灣因為AI產業鏈還有科技業蓬勃發展，所以政府的稅收數字應該都創新高，政府因為AI產業鏈，很多上市櫃公司營業額上升，以及現在的股市，最近新聞也報導每日臺股交易量突破9,000億的交易量。 |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.956 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-04-21T09:44:43.379000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-04-21T09:44:48.141000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
所以我想請教財政部部長，最近這幾個月我們的稅收是不是成長非常多？ |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-04-21T09:44:49.742000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-04-21T09:45:06.760000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
跟委員報告，最近1到3月的稅收，全國數是6,555億元，但是因為財劃法修正以後，地方所獲配的稅款包含地方稅跟中央統籌分配稅款是倍增的，成長110%；但是在中央稅款的部分1到3月是減收的，比去年減收353億元。 |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0.695 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-04-21T09:45:11.464000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-04-21T09:45:22.192000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
所以中央稅款超收很多，我們在野黨也有提出來，超收稅收的部分未來是不是有機會可以普發現金或是用什麼樣的方法，請部長回答有沒有這樣的研議？ |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0.619 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-04-21T09:45:22.992000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-04-21T09:45:30.318000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
但是到目前為止，1到3月中央的稅課收入實增數比去年同期是減少353億元，因為財劃法的關係，目前來說是比去年少的。 |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0.638 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-04-21T09:45:30.318000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-04-21T09:45:38.956000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
好，有超收稅收的話也拜託大家可以研議，若有超收可以像美國一樣普發，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0.03 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
張委員智倫 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-04-21T09:45:38.956000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-04-21T09:45:38.956000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
謝謝院長。 |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-04-21T09:45:39.456000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-04-21T09:45:40.884571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
謝謝張委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-04-21T09:45:41.184571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-04-21T09:45:44.041714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
謝謝張委員，謝謝卓院長。 |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-04-21T09:45:44.341714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-04-21T09:45:47.484571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
下一位請劉書彬委員質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0 |