| IVOD_ID |
168606 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168606 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-16T09:50:52+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-16T10:01:02+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:10 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5c6c6faabdac9c28e7ebbb61cbe9ebc924d82c1ebe87fe24e494fea1324b5f1aa70d2b13d237a2c95ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
楊瓊瓔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:50:52 - 10:01:02 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長率台灣電力股份有限公司董事長、國家發展委員會主任委員及農業部部長就「我國再生能源及電網韌性之發展現況、建置進度、容量目標、推動困境、法規障礙及相關改善對策」進行報告，並備質詢。
【4月15日及4月16日二天一次會】） |
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請楊瓊英委員謝謝主席 楊瓊英發言首先邀請部長跟台電台電王總經理 |
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現在有這樣的規劃為什麼呢 |
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因為為了增加因為戰爭的關係增加韌性因為戰爭的關係增加韌性但是政府告訴我們我們的供氣無疑於啊沒有問題啊而且很穩定而且很穩定報告委員如果我們五月份假如麥寮這個燃煤機組啟動的話我們會其他的燃煤機組降下來所以它這個量不會增加其他的機組會降 |
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那你其他的機組為什麼還要來啟動你已經停用的藍莓機組為什麼這個是預備嘛這個叫做預備接下來要請問政府告訴我們台電告訴我們說 |
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它运转恢复运转三个月但是强调全年的用煤量不会超过去年是不是王总经理也点头是不会超过去年你要不要承诺是承诺王总经理要不要承诺部长承诺王总经理要不要承诺 |
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要不要承諾 承諾好 部長承諾 部長也承諾 王總經理也承諾 那請問戰爭什麼時候會停止 你三個月後 戰爭如果沒有停止你要不要再承諾 確定不會再開展 已停用的南北基礎 |
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跟委員報告齁請告訴社會大眾對 台電會增加賣寮的燃煤機組目的是要增加韌性當天然氣船如果稍微不順一點那麼我們在天然氣船竟然不順那個那個那一新本集再請教 |
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再請教 針對你昨天自己說的嘛你給我承諾不會超過去年因為它停用 你當然不會超過喔接下來本席要請問因為戰爭的因素 所以你要備用你要備用 但是本席要請教喔你所謂的備用 這個大家就有質疑喔因為你告訴我們 你的用氣沒問題 |
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部長又告訴我們藍莓機組啟動三個月停用的再啟動恢復三個月你說會降其他的電降哪一種電降哪一種電降哪裡的藍莓電降台中來 王總經理請回答這就是本席要請問你的在中東戰爭沒有辦法你可以確定它三個月後會停嗎 |
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我們當然希望會停 如果萬一他不可控的因子 戰爭持續的時候本席就要請問 請問會不會再重開停用的藍莓機組 |
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原則上因為不知道戰爭會發展到什麼狀況如果以目前的狀況持續沒有惡化到很嚴重的狀況之下那當然我們增加這個脈療基礎事實上就是增加彈性目的就是說萬一天然氣船進來稍微針對本席的提問戰爭不可控 |
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如果萬一它持續你會不會繼續再重開啟停用的燃煤基礎 會不會請告訴我 請告訴我 王總經理你最內行的你告訴民眾要講真的內容啊 |
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這一題應該看全世界怎麼做全世界的各國包括德國你講到全世界你講我國好不好因為是你掌控的對 他們也在開燃煤機組所以我可以這麼解讀嗎當然戰爭可以停止你就這三個月但是戰爭不可控的因素的時候你還是會繼續開可以這麼解讀嗎 |
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應該是說有沒有惡化如果情境是不停的還是戰爭的樣態你會不會繼續開會不會總經理我只能說目前的情境看起來狀況沒有那麼嚴重所以會維持現在這樣狀況三個月就是賣掉三個月如果戰爭繼續呢你會不會繼續開 |
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會不會 你告訴我會不會就好啦因為戰爭的狀況是有嚴重 中等 不嚴重 幾種可能的情境那我們現在不知道 針對你台電的佈局我的台電的佈局 因為你一定有多方的佈局請教如果繼續 你現在就要給我開這個停開的三個月啦那如果戰爭繼續 請教台電公司會不會繼續 |
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我只能這樣說台電今天最重要的工作就是穩定供電我的任務一定要達成穩定供電為優先那要達成穩定供電的狀況之下全民跟全世界怎麼因應我們就照全世界的方式在因應全世界怎麼因應就是其他的人員就要調度該調度的就調度該調度就調度所以南美還是會繼續開 |
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我現在不能跟你說如果是這樣的樣態南美還是會繼續開如果嚴重惡化到非常急劇的狀況我不敢說會怎麼樣但是以目前的情境是沒有那麼惡劣的狀況我們是樂觀的 |
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部長在這裡喔也就是因為你告訴我們說不會超過去年你自己打自己的嘴巴因為戰爭若持續不可控的因素剛剛王總經理已經講很清楚也就是戰爭的情況如果持續有可能我們還是要調度電力繼續開所以接下來本席要請問你能不能承諾中火不會加開 |
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請教目前規劃是這樣 而且它還會降目前規劃是這樣子 而且它還會降 請總經理說明 |
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你的目前是多長以目前的情境 就是說戰爭的狀況的情境我們是中火絕對不會超過去年的量1100萬千萬 1000萬萬噸不會超過以目前的情境目前的情境 本集再請教戰爭我們是不可控我們希望peace 希望要和平但是不是我方可以任意去決定的所以我們還是要看全球的樣態但是我們一定要為以從某請教 |
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如果戰爭繼續的時候 中火會不會加開請教中火 所以剛剛前提是目前的情境這樣子的話請針對本行的提問目前的情境是不會加開目前是不會 戰爭持續會不會加開戰爭如果持續 而且它的情況目前這樣子的一個狀況不是惡化到非常非常的嚴重我們中火是不會加開 |
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博士大會上惡化的情況是不會加開你把我繞了一大圈啊你把我繞了一大圈啊台電最大的任務就是穩定供電這部長你這一句穩定供電這是全民必須要做這是政府的責任但是本席要具體要求中午付出了那麼多人民的健康我們的空氣好不容易我們一直努力的在降這個藍莓大家一起合作好好把它做好 |
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所以你要承諾不要加開你可以承諾嗎他是目前情境是OK的繞了一大圈我們沒有得到真正你們所說的答案因為本期要具體的建議 |
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如果缺氣我們就燒煤如果缺電我們就重開這幾個字是一直老路在繞所以我具體建議我們必須要做一個整體的一個規劃特別已經付出的中火應當要考量要照顧我們中部地區人民的空氣跟健康這是基本的 |
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所以為了優先順序穩定供電的條件之下當然以天然氣還有其他的再生能源作為主軸就是因為您告訴我們天然氣供應無虞天然氣既然供應無虞為什麼要繞這樣的圈子為什麼要重啟1號跟3號的賣了停用的三個月因為以現在的狀態下的話應該是OK的啦 |
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579.947 |
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但是您剛剛又提到說未來戰爭怎麼變化那個我們可能要看那個後續的這個變化就您說的未來戰爭怎麼樣這是政府的職責要去應對每天所變化的樣態這是非常的重要所以本期還是具體建議中國已經付出了那麼多中部地區的空氣人民的健康應該還我們一個公道謝謝 |
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好 謝謝楊瓊議員 請部長先回座 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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謝謝主席，楊瓊瓔發言，首先邀請部長跟台電王總經理。 |
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0.909 |
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主席 |
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2026-04-16T09:51:08.225000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-16T09:51:09.279000+08:00 |
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請經濟部龔部長、台電王總經理。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2026-04-16T09:51:09.279000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-16T09:51:10.333000+08:00 |
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楊委員早安。 |
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0 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2026-04-16T09:51:10.333000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-16T09:51:11.387000+08:00 |
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部長好，台電王總也在這裡。 |
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0 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-16T09:51:11.387000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-16T09:51:12.441000+08:00 |
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今天的經濟日報一翻開，看到5月起麥寮一號跟三號機要恢復運轉3個月，是不是有這回事？ |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
0 |
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龔部長明鑫 |
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2026-04-16T09:51:12.441000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-04-16T09:51:12.741000+08:00 |
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現在有這樣的規劃。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-16T09:51:12.741000+08:00 |
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2026-04-16T09:51:12.861000+08:00 |
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為什麼呢？ |
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1 |
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龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-04-16T09:51:33.990000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-04-16T09:51:40.154000+08:00 |
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因為戰爭的關係，要增加韌性。 |
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0.917 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-16T09:51:40.434000+08:00 |
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2026-04-16T09:51:46.278000+08:00 |
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但是政府告訴我們，我們的供氣無虞，沒有問題，而且很穩定。 |
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0.958 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
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2026-04-16T09:51:48.960000+08:00 |
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2026-04-16T09:51:58.466000+08:00 |
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對，報告委員，5月份假如麥寮燃煤機組啟動的話，我們會將其他的燃煤機組降下來，所以量不會增加。 |
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0.95 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-16T09:51:59.307000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-04-16T09:52:00.107000+08:00 |
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其他的機組會降？對。 |
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0.875 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-16T09:52:02.369000+08:00 |
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2026-04-16T09:52:09.619000+08:00 |
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如果其他的機組夠了，為什麼還要啟動已經停用的燃煤機組？ |
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0.76 |
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龔部長明鑫 |
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2026-04-16T09:52:10.280000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-04-16T09:52:11.061000+08:00 |
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這個是預備！ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-04-16T09:52:12.062000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-04-16T09:52:13.945000+08:00 |
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這個叫做預備？是。 |
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0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-16T09:52:13.945000+08:00 |
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2026-04-16T09:52:30.158000+08:00 |
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接下來要請問，政府告訴我們，台電告訴我們，要恢復運轉3個月，但是強調全年的用煤量不會超過去年，是不是？是。 |
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0.756 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-16T09:52:31.218000+08:00 |
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2026-04-16T09:52:36.281000+08:00 |
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王總經理也點頭了，就是不會超過去年，那你要不要承諾？ |
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0.565 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
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2026-04-16T09:52:37.421000+08:00 |
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2026-04-16T09:52:38.702000+08:00 |
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是、承諾。 |
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0.667 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-16T09:52:39.442000+08:00 |
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2026-04-16T09:52:45.566000+08:00 |
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部長承諾了，王總經理要不要承諾？ |
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0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
王總經理耀庭 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-04-16T09:52:45.566000+08:00 |
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2026-04-16T09:52:46.046000+08:00 |
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承諾，一定做到。 |
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0.333 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-04-16T09:52:46.647000+08:00 |
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2026-04-16T09:52:52.231000+08:00 |
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部長承諾，王總經理也承諾，那請問戰爭什麼時候會停止？ |
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1 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-04-16T09:52:53.833000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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2026-04-16T09:52:59.177000+08:00 |
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3個月後戰爭如果沒有停止，你要不要再承諾？ |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-04-16T09:52:59.177000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-04-16T09:53:03.340000+08:00 |
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確定不會再恢復運轉已停用的燃煤機組？ |
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0.529 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-04-16T09:53:05.676000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-04-16T09:53:07.739000+08:00 |
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請告訴社會大眾。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
王總經理耀庭 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-16T09:53:08.520000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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2026-04-16T09:53:19.635000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，台電增加麥寮的燃煤機組目的是要增加韌性，如果天然氣船稍微不順一點，我們在天然氣船進來不順的那個期間來做調整…… |
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0.679 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-16T09:53:20.796000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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2026-04-16T09:53:30.743000+08:00 |
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所以本席再請教，這是台電自己說的，你承諾不會超過去年，因為他停用了，所以當然不會超過。 |
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0.711 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-16T09:53:31.363000+08:00 |
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2026-04-16T09:53:42.509000+08:00 |
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接下來本席要請問，因為戰爭的因素，所以你要有備用，而你所謂的備用，大家就有質疑。 |
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0.943 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-16T09:53:43.429000+08:00 |
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2026-04-16T09:53:55.793000+08:00 |
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因為你告訴我們，用氣沒問題；部長又告訴我們，燃煤機組啟動3個月，而且是停用的再恢復啟動3個月，然後會降其他的電。 |
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0.812 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-16T09:53:55.793000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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2026-04-16T09:53:58.774000+08:00 |
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請問降哪一種電？燃煤。 |
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0.556 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-16T09:54:01.294000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-04-16T09:54:04.315000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
降哪裡的燃煤電？臺中。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.556 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-16T09:54:04.315000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-04-16T09:54:04.775000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
降臺中的？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-16T09:54:06.516000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-04-16T09:54:08.936000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
好，王總經理請回答，這就是本席要請問你的。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-16T09:54:13.557000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-04-16T09:54:15.398000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
你可以確定中東戰爭3個月後會停嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.733 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-16T09:54:16.870000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-04-16T09:54:27.296000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
我們當然希望會停，萬一他不可控，戰爭因此持續的話，本席就要請問，會不會再重開停用的燃煤機組？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.878 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
王總經理耀庭 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-16T09:54:33.946000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-16T09:54:34.286000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
原則上…… |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-16T09:54:34.286000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-16T09:54:35.327000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
會不會？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
王總經理耀庭 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-16T09:54:35.327000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-16T09:54:52.564000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
因為不知道戰爭會發展到什麼狀況，如果目前的狀況持續，也沒有惡化到很嚴重的狀況之下，當然我們就增加麥寮機組，事實上就是增加彈性，目的就是萬一天然氣船進來稍微不順…… |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.892 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-16T09:54:52.724000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-16T09:55:01.610000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
請針對本席的提問，戰爭不可控，萬一還是持續，你會不會繼續重啟停用的燃煤機組？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.853 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-16T09:55:01.670000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-16T09:55:01.690000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
請告訴我會不會？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-16T09:55:02.050000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-16T09:55:04.091000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
王總經理，你是最內行的，你要跟民眾講真的內容啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
王總經理耀庭 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-16T09:55:14.167000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-04-16T09:55:19.590000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
委員問的這一題，應該看全世界怎麼做，全世界各國包括德國…… |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.84 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-16T09:55:19.590000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-04-16T09:55:20.270000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
你講到全世界？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-16T09:55:20.290000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-04-16T09:55:20.410000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
你講我國好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-16T09:55:20.470000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-04-16T09:55:20.671000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
因為是你掌控的。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
王總經理耀庭 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-16T09:55:20.771000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-04-16T09:55:21.051000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
對，他們也在開燃煤機組。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔：你說他們也在開？所以我的解讀是 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-16T09:55:21.291000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-16T09:55:23.873000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
如果戰爭會停止，你就是開這3個月；但是在戰爭不可控的時候，你還是會繼續開，我可以這麼解讀嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.825 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
王總經理耀庭 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-16T09:55:42.362000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-04-16T09:55:43.242000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
應該是說有沒有惡化，所以情境是…… |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.643 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-16T09:55:44.343000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-04-16T09:55:50.489000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
如果情境是沒有停止，還是戰爭的狀態，你會不會繼續開？ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.826 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-16T09:55:50.489000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-04-16T09:55:50.730000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
總經理，會不會？ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
王總經理耀庭 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-16T09:55:54.353000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-04-16T09:56:02.962000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
我只能說，以目前的情境看起來，狀況沒有那麼嚴重，所以會維持現在這樣的狀況3個月，就是麥寮3個月。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.902 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-04-16T09:56:03.082000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-04-16T09:56:04.183000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
如果戰爭繼續，你會不會繼續開？所以…… |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-04-16T09:56:08.386000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-04-16T09:56:08.786000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
會不會？ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-04-16T09:56:08.786000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-04-16T09:56:10.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
你只要告訴我會不會就好了。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
王總經理耀庭 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-04-16T09:56:10.967000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-04-16T09:56:17.810000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
因為戰爭的狀況是有嚴重、中等、不嚴重幾種可能的情境，那我們現在不知道會是哪一種情境。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.816 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-04-16T09:56:18.070000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-04-16T09:56:20.511000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
就針對你台電的布局！ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-04-16T09:56:20.691000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-04-16T09:56:30.375000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
因為你一定有多方的布局，你現在就要重啟麥寮之前停用的燃煤機組3個月，如果戰爭繼續，請教台電公司會不會繼續加開燃煤機組？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.648 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
王總經理耀庭 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-04-16T09:56:38.868000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-04-16T09:56:46.430000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
我只能這樣說，台電今天最重要的工作就是穩定供電，我一定要達成以穩定供電為優先的任務。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.872 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
王總經理耀庭 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-04-16T09:56:47.050000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-04-16T09:56:54.032000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
在要達成穩定供電的狀況之下，看全世界怎麼因應，我們就照全世界的方式來因應。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.912 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-04-16T09:56:54.032000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-04-16T09:56:55.392000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
全世界是怎麼因應？ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
王總經理耀庭 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-04-16T09:56:55.392000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-04-16T09:56:58.393000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
就是要調度其他的能源，該調度的就調度。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.706 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-04-16T09:56:58.573000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-04-16T09:56:59.773000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
該調度的就調度？ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-04-16T09:57:00.013000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-04-16T09:57:01.174000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
所以燃煤還是會繼續開？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
王總經理耀庭 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-04-16T09:57:03.219000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-04-16T09:57:04.661000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
我現在不能跟你說…… |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-04-16T09:57:04.661000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-04-16T09:57:07.263000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
如果是這樣的樣態，燃煤還是會繼續開？ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
王總經理耀庭 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-04-16T09:57:07.263000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-04-16T09:57:14.510000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
如果嚴重惡化到非常急遽的狀況，我不敢說會怎麼樣，但是目前的情境是沒有那麼惡劣的狀況，我們是樂觀的。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.978 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-04-16T09:57:18.906000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-04-16T09:57:24.189000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
部長在這裡，也就是因為你告訴我們不會超過去年，你自己打自己的嘴巴。 |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-04-16T09:57:25.089000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-04-16T09:57:38.436000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
因為戰爭這個不可控的因素如果持續，剛剛王總經理已經講得很清楚，也就是戰爭的情況如果持續，我們有可能還是要調度電力而繼續開。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.825 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-04-16T09:57:39.796000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-04-16T09:57:43.198000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
接下來本席要請問，你能不能承諾中火不會加開？是啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-04-16T09:57:49.002000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-04-16T09:57:51.767000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
目前的規劃是這樣，而且它還會降。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-04-16T09:57:52.528000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-04-16T09:57:53.529000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
目前的規劃是這樣子，而且它還會降？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-04-16T09:57:53.670000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-04-16T09:57:58.592000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
請總經理說明「目前」是多長的時間？ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
王總經理耀庭 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-04-16T09:57:58.592000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-04-16T09:58:09.461000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
以目前戰爭狀況的情境，中火絕對不會超過去年1,500萬噸的數量，以目前的情境是不會超過。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.703 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-04-16T09:58:09.461000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-04-16T09:58:10.021000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
以目前的情境？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-04-16T09:58:12.123000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
|
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2026-04-16T09:58:25.334000+08:00 |
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本席再請教，戰爭是不可控的，我們希望peace，希望要和平，但是這不是我方可以任意去決定的，所以我們還是要看全球的樣態，但是我們一定要未雨綢繆。 |
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0.892 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-04-16T09:58:26.375000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-04-16T09:58:33.210000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
我要請教你們，如果戰爭繼續，中火會不會加開？ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.789 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
王總經理耀庭 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-04-16T09:58:36.371000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-04-16T09:58:38.091000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
剛剛講的前提是以目前這樣的情境，中火是不會加開。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.455 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-04-16T09:58:40.431000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-04-16T09:58:42.212000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
請針對本席的提問。 |
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0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
王總經理耀庭 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-04-16T09:58:42.212000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-04-16T09:58:44.352000+08:00 |
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以目前的情境是不會加開。 |
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0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-04-16T09:58:44.352000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-04-16T09:58:45.712000+08:00 |
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目前是不會？ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-04-16T09:58:45.712000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-04-16T09:58:47.612000+08:00 |
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如果戰爭持續，會不會加開？ |
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0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
王總經理耀庭 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-04-16T09:58:47.612000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-04-16T09:58:55.694000+08:00 |
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戰爭如果持續，而且情況是像目前這樣的狀況，不是惡化到非常非常的嚴重，中火是不會加開。 |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-04-16T09:58:58.195000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-04-16T09:59:00.996000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
你說不是到非常惡化的情況是不會加開？ |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.588 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-04-16T09:59:00.996000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-04-16T09:59:05.098000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
你把我繞了一大圈，你把我繞了一大圈啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-04-16T09:59:06.059000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-04-16T09:59:08.640000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
台電最大的任務就是穩定供電，這就是穩定供電的前提之一啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-04-16T09:59:08.640000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-04-16T09:59:13.263000+08:00 |
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好，部長，你講的這一句穩定供電，這是必須要為全民做的，這是政府的責任。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.742 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-04-16T09:59:13.963000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-04-16T09:59:26.030000+08:00 |
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但是本席要具體要求，中火讓我們的空氣變差，人民的健康付出了那麼多代價，真的是好不容易，我們一直努力的在降燃煤，大家一起合作，好好把它做好。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-04-16T09:59:26.970000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-04-16T09:59:30.254000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
所以你要承諾不要加開，你可以承諾嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-04-16T09:59:32.076000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-04-16T09:59:33.517000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
目前情境是OK的。 |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-04-16T09:59:35.540000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-04-16T09:59:39.063000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
繞了一大圈，你們沒有說出我們真正想聽到的答案。 |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0.619 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-04-16T09:59:42.578000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-04-16T09:59:49.684000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
你們說如果缺氣，我們就燒煤；如果缺電，我們就重開。 |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-04-16T09:59:49.684000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-04-16T09:59:52.026000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
這幾個字是一直老路在繞。 |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-04-16T09:59:52.026000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-04-16T10:00:06.938000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
所以我具體建議：我們必須要做一個整體的規劃，特別應當要考量已經付出很多的中火，要改善我們中部地區的空氣、照顧人民的健康，這是基本的，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0.698 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-04-16T10:00:09.308000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-04-16T10:00:15.173000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
我們會有優先順序，在穩定供電的條件之下，當然以天然氣還有其他的再生能源作為主軸。 |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0.865 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-04-16T10:00:15.173000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-04-16T10:00:23.180000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
就是因為您告訴我們天然氣供應無虞，既然天然氣供應無虞，為什麼要繞這樣的圈子？ |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0.943 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-04-16T10:00:23.940000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2026-04-16T10:00:27.303000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
為什麼要重啟已經停用的麥寮電廠1號、3號燃煤機組，預計運作3個月？ |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
0.407 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-04-16T10:00:27.704000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-04-16T10:00:37.368000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
報告委員，在現在的狀態下，應該是OK的，但是您剛剛又提到未來戰爭怎麼變化，那個我們可能要看後續的變化來擬定。 |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0.837 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-04-16T10:00:38.328000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-04-16T10:00:48.711000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
好，就像您說的，未來戰爭怎麼樣，政府的職責就是要去因應每天變化的樣態，這非常的重要。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0.842 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-04-16T10:00:49.951000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-04-16T10:00:57.673000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
本席還是具體建議，中火已經付出了那麼多，包括中部地區的空氣、人民的健康，都應該要還我們一個公道，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-04-16T10:00:58.854000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2026-04-16T10:00:59.337000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
謝謝楊瓊瓔委員，請部長先回座。 |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2026-04-16T10:00:59.837000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2026-04-16T10:01:02.979857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
下一位請鄭天財委員質詢。 |
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0 |