| IVOD_ID |
168596 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168596 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-26-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-15T14:02:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-15T14:12:42+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:14 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3ec77822e2e6eae30d8ece0137110d288ea785098ebfecd5e98911b917ba40465ab69b334a180b4b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
楊曜 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:02:28 - 14:12:42 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：邀請衛生福利部部長、行政院經貿談判辦公室、經濟部、農業部、教育部就「美國貿易代表署發布《2026年各國貿易評估報告》（2026NTE）提及技術性貿易壁壘或食品安全檢驗與動植物防疫檢疫SPS）壁壘之豬肉、牛肉與牛肉產品、β促進劑的最大殘留容許量等各項食農相關產品及技術之要求，我國所承諾之措施、移除產品禁令或取消輸入口岸檢疫程序等，並特就其中開放切片馬鈴薯帶芽（或腐爛或發黴）仍能整批進口與其敦促撤銷基改食品進校園，對我國食品安全造成之衝擊與因應作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
邀請衛生福利部、農業部、行政院消費者保護處就「寵物用藥新制上路在即，犬貓及非經濟動物急重症醫療銜接、藥品流向管理、飼主取得可近性與消費權益保障之整體配套」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
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好謝謝主席請一下農業部房間署杜署長杜立華署長 |
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要不要來?要不要來?要不要來?要不要來?好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好啊好 |
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不好意思,未完總是這樣子,讓大家休息的時間不夠我常講說有八個委員會,這個委員會叫血汗委員會 |
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署長我先問一下非經濟動物施打人類藥品的相關問題所以現在台灣的非經濟動物的陪伴動物的數量其實已經超過新生兒我常常開玩笑講受益比兒科的醫生還受重視 |
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他們最主要對飼主來講其實寵物跟家人是很相近的最重要的當然就是要讓飼主帶寵物去看醫生的時候能夠得到及時的醫治和取得有效的藥品以現在的國際趨勢在陪伴動物的用人 |
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用人要的趨勢上經常採取負面表列想請問一下署長正面表列跟負面表列各可能產生什麼問題因為我們台灣是 |
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國際上多數是負面表列我們採的是正面表列各有什麼優缺點各可能產生什麼問題跟委員報告因為這個法在做溝通的時候大概都是朝向正面表列去列 |
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那所以說他以目前來講登錄到人用藥的部分也已經達到700多項那事實上他會在滾動檢討會再繼續往上升那這701項大概藥證的部分應該就有一萬張的藥證也就是說現在 |
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動物醫院或獸醫師要用藥的應該可以得到滿足最大最大數最大數的一個滿足那假設說真的有緊急用藥或特殊性用藥的時候又有一個平台也就是說你可以透過這個平台來做申請那快速審核以後也可以讓你從國外進來 |
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所以你能不能也大概講一下這個平台的審核是誰在審核像我提出申請然後我們有透過這個全聯會藥師的全聯會藥師全聯會獸醫師全聯會所以提出申請以後都會快速審核然後通過了以後就直接可以向國外來禁藥 |
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因為正面表列最大的缺點就是用藥的彈性比較不足對不對就是因為因為只能夠在那是因為原來是144項只有216件所以相對是我們的701項 |
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相對是比較少大概僅有20%表列的內容比較不足有時候比較會有問題因為人用藥這一塊的登記跟核准的已經有701項但你轉到動保用藥就是原來的法規上 辦法上那你轉到這裡只有144項所以你看到這個差了500多所以大家會緊張會焦慮也就是因為說缺口那麼大那是不是我平時想用的這個藥沒有辦法得到滿足 |
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那現在就是已經把這個障礙排除了也就是701項直接可以讓我們公告為動保用藥所以它用藥已經得到最大的範圍的開放度所以署長這個還是要加強宣傳因為我剛剛講了嘛就是 |
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寵物的數量越來越多那家人的焦慮在政策上可以的話就盡量滿足他們的因為政策拍板以後我們就全力全國開始宣講然後也會跟相關的團體來做溝通 |
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政策大概什麼時候拍板應該這幾天如果說整個註銷公告那那完整程序的以後那大概就就相對性會提出另外一個新的辦法那假設我們雙農衛雙方那 |
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也有共識 那也 政策也是往這個方向的時候我們就會把草案來跟全國所有的利害關係人來做溝通那如果大家在這個溝通的意見又聚攏改變不大 那我想這個要實施 要公告實施可能速度就會加快所以這個行政程序沒有辦法免除對 對 對 當然當然 就是我的意思就是說在政策推出以後 |
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政策的宣導其實還是很重要我一直覺得執政團隊對於各方面的政策宣導其實是比較不足那這個當然原因不在於不全然是執政團隊的問題 |
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390.74 |
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因為現在就是資訊太過多元然後雜亂所以很難聚焦那我們可以做的還是要把它做好好不好委員可不可以讓我補充一點點 |
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其實這個這個辦法是從104年啟動動保法的修正以後那您列的這個辦法那這個辦法因為會嫌公告是農未雙方那在這段時間104以後他也經過了104 112 117107 112等等有三次的預告時間對外對大眾的一個預告那從公布113年的2月26號公告以後 |
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我們雖然大型的有15場對外的說明但我剛剛跟算了一下大四季其實這裡面的大大小小的溝通包括說明就50場了就從113年的2月26號到現在所以理論上不管工會或大型的地方的相關的團體理論上或多或少都有catch到這樣的資訊 |
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444.793 |
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現在是因為大家現在要施行了所以一些的問題集中的就反映出來那我覺得這可能跟時空背景有很大的改變那加上說現在的用藥的制度跟現在目前的推動的現在使用的方法跟將來被這個辦法約制住 |
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有很多沒有辦法會受限制所以當然大家就會提出很多意見那也因為我們是很負責任所以針對這個辦法裡面那也有做整個大架構的修改那朝向一個 |
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我們法規完備法那第二個內容裡面盡量符合現今的狀態那讓動物的生命權跟醫療權都可以獲得最大的保障然後也讓你的公藥或使用跟管理都能夠更加的完善大概是這樣子 |
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那署長我還是再問一下就是說因為人類用藥有很多是必須要嚴格管制流向的對不對要不然可能造成譬如說濫用抗生素等等的問題那你們 |
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515.689 |
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那未來不論是藥局將藥品寄放到售醫院,或者是售醫院直接向藥商購買人用藥品,怎麼建立流向的管理機制? |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
534.971 |
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這個衛福部門很關注的管制用藥對這個可能你們要跨部位去做是是是已經有共識就是針對一些管制的部份雙部會會去爐列出來以後那我覺得針對這一些受關注的這些的一個藥品的部分那當然他的管理的一個強度跟流向的城堡的一個那個強度跟頻度都會再加強 |
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現在還沒有就是會在以未來我們的辦法跟執行上都會納入到裡面來做最大的評論跟管理制度上的加強一方面也要保障寵物的生命安全另外一方面當然相關的管制藥品應該怎麼跟 |
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跟衛福部這邊做一個溝通不能說就在人的部分管制的結果非經濟動物的部分沒有因為人用藥畢竟他已經非常成熟的制度我們還是要借盡他們的我就是說因為衛福部這邊已經有一個很嚴格的把關的機制在所以你們可能要跟他們做一下會在一個行政院體系下我們會合作 同意合作 |
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好 謝謝署長 謝謝主席謝謝委員謝謝楊浩偉的資訊 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:02:39.139000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:02:39.279000+08:00 |
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謝謝主席。主席。 |
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0.667 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:02:40.080000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:02:47.824000+08:00 |
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請農業部防檢署杜署長。 |
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0.8 |
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主席 |
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2026-04-15T14:02:47.824000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:02:48.245000+08:00 |
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請杜麗華署長。 |
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0.667 |
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杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:02:50.805000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:02:50.805000+08:00 |
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委員好。 |
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0.333 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:02:50.845000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:02:50.845000+08:00 |
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署長好。 |
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0.333 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:03:11.710000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:03:15.791000+08:00 |
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署長，不好意思，衛環總是這個樣子，讓大家休息的時間不夠，我常常說有8個委員會，這個委員會叫血汗委員會。 |
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0.864 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:03:39.198000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:04:02.707000+08:00 |
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署長，我先問一下非經濟動物施打人類藥品的相關問題，現在臺灣的非經濟動物、陪伴動物的數量其實已經超過新生兒，我常常開玩笑講，獸醫比兒科醫生還受重視。 |
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0.97 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:04:11.753000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:04:26.502000+08:00 |
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對飼主來講，寵物跟家人是很相近的，最重要的當然就是要讓飼主帶寵物去看醫生的時候，能夠得到及時的醫治和取得有效的藥品。 |
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1 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:04:28.823000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:04:47.072000+08:00 |
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以現在的國際趨勢，在陪伴動物用人藥的趨勢上經常採取負面表列，想請問一下署長，正面表列跟負面表列各可能產生什麼問題？ |
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0.981 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:04:50.677000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-04-15T14:04:52.059000+08:00 |
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國際上多數是負面表列，對不對？ |
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0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:04:53.340000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:04:57.326000+08:00 |
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我們採的是正面表列，各有什麼優缺點？ |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
1 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:04:57.326000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:04:59.168000+08:00 |
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各可能產生什麼問題？是。 |
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0.9 |
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杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:04:59.168000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:05:31.457000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，因為這個法在溝通的時候大概都是朝正面表列去列，以目前來講，登錄到人用藥的部分也已經達到七百多項，事實上它會再滾動檢討，會再繼續往上升，這701項應該就有1萬張藥證，也就是說，現在動物醫院或獸醫師要用藥的應該可以得到最大數的滿足。 |
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0.963 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:05:31.457000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-15T14:05:33.620000+08:00 |
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現在就已經可以得到滿足？對。 |
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0 |
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杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:05:33.620000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:05:43.271000+08:00 |
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假設真的有緊急用藥或特殊性用藥的時候，都有一個平台，也就是說，可以透過這個平台來申請，快速審核以後也可以從國外進來。 |
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0.943 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:05:46.009000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:05:51.930000+08:00 |
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署長，你能不能大概講一下這個平台的審核是誰在審核？ |
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0.87 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:05:51.930000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-15T14:05:52.970000+08:00 |
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還有它的內容。 |
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0 |
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杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:05:52.970000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:05:55.991000+08:00 |
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向我們提出申請，然後我們有透過藥師的全聯會…… |
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0.75 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:05:55.991000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:05:56.311000+08:00 |
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藥師的全聯會？ |
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1 |
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杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:05:56.331000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:05:56.451000+08:00 |
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獸醫師全聯會。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:05:57.551000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:06:01.592000+08:00 |
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提出申請以後，都會快速審核，通過了以後就直接可以向國外進藥。 |
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0.963 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:06:13.816000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:06:20.163000+08:00 |
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因為正面表列最大的缺點就是用藥的彈性比較不足，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:06:20.163000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:06:21.824000+08:00 |
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就是因為只能夠在…… |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
杜署長麗華 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-15T14:06:22.205000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:06:31.374000+08:00 |
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那是因為原來是144項，只有216件，所以相對於我們的701項是比較少的，大概只有百分之二十。 |
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0.765 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:06:31.714000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:06:34.296000+08:00 |
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表列的內容比較不足的時候比較會有問題？ |
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0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:06:34.296000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:07:08.921000+08:00 |
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因為人用藥這一塊的登記跟核准的已經有701項，但轉到動保用藥，按照原來的法規、辦法只有144項，你看這個差了五百多嘛，所以大家會緊張、會焦慮，也就是因為缺口那麼大，擔心平時用的藥沒有辦法得到滿足，但現在已經把這個障礙排除了，也就是701項直接可以讓我們公告為動保用藥，所以這部分的用藥已經得到最大範圍的開放度。 |
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0.91 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
楊委員曜 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-15T14:07:08.941000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-04-15T14:07:09.762000+08:00 |
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所以署長，這個還是要加強宣傳。是，好。 |
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0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:07:09.782000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:07:31.868000+08:00 |
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我剛剛講了嘛，寵物的數量越來越多，家人的焦慮，我們在政策上可以的話就儘量滿足。是。 |
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0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:07:32.588000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:07:38.233000+08:00 |
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因為政策拍板以後，我們就全力全國開始宣講，然後也會跟相關的團體溝通。 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:07:41.616000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:07:44.558000+08:00 |
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政策大概什麼時候拍板？ |
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1 |
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杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:07:44.659000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:08:18.815000+08:00 |
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這幾天如果整個註銷公告完成程序以後，大概就相對性會提出另外一個新的辦法，假設農衛雙方有共識，政策也是往這個方向的時候，我們就會就草案來跟全國所有利害關係人溝通，如果大家溝通的意見又聚攏、改變不大，我想這個要公告實施可能速度就會加快，這個行政程序沒有辦法免除。 |
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| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:08:19.835000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:08:29.081000+08:00 |
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當然，我的意思就是在政策推出以後，政策的宣導其實還是很重要的。是。 |
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0.931 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:08:29.722000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:08:57.378000+08:00 |
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我一直覺得執政團隊對於各方面的政策宣導其實是比較不足，當然原因不全然是執政團隊的問題，因為現在就是資訊太過多元而雜亂，所以很難聚焦，我們可以做的還是要把它做好，好不好？ |
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0.987 |
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杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:08:57.518000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:08:58.740000+08:00 |
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委員，可不可以讓我補充一點點？ |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:08:58.740000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-15T14:09:00.389000+08:00 |
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好，可以。 |
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杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:09:00.389000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:09:21.628000+08:00 |
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其實這個辦法是從104年啟動動保法修正以後明定，而這個辦法的會銜公告是農衛雙方，這段時間在104年以後，經過了104年、107年、112年三次預告時間，對外、對大眾預告。 |
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0.823 |
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杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:09:23.049000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:09:37.841000+08:00 |
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從113年2月26日公告以後，我們雖然舉辦15場大型的對外說明，我剛剛算了一下，根據大事紀，從113年2月26日到現在，大大小小的溝通、報告、說明就有50場。 |
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0.673 |
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杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:09:41.744000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:09:50.311000+08:00 |
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所以不管是公會或大型的地方相關團體，理論上或多或少都有catch到這樣的資訊。 |
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0.946 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:09:50.311000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-15T14:09:52.793000+08:00 |
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宣傳還算充足。 |
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杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:09:52.793000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:10:17.868000+08:00 |
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但現在是因為要施行了，所以一些問題集中了就反映出來，我覺得這個可能是因為時空背景有很大的改變，再加上現在的用藥制度、現在使用的方法將來可能會被這個辦法約制住，很多會受限制，當然大家就會提出很多意見。 |
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0.891 |
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杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:10:18.048000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:10:28.898000+08:00 |
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也因為我們是很負責任，所以針對這個辦法，也有做整個大架構的修改，朝向幾個目標：第一個，法規完備。 |
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0.881 |
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杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:10:29.599000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:10:43.625000+08:00 |
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第二個，內容儘量符合現今的狀態，讓動物的生命權跟醫療權都可以獲得最大的保障，然後也讓供藥或使用跟管理都能夠更加完善，大概是這樣子。好。 |
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0.951 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:10:45.713000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:10:55.161000+08:00 |
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署長，我還是再問一下，因為人類用藥有很多是必須要嚴格管制流向，對不對？是。 |
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0.969 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:10:55.161000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:11:19.563000+08:00 |
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要不然可能造成問題，譬如濫用抗生素的問題，未來不論是藥局將藥品寄放到獸醫院，或者是獸醫院直接向藥商購買人用藥品，怎麼建立流向的管理機制…… |
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0.937 |
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杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:11:22.971000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:11:24.672000+08:00 |
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報告委員，大家很關注的就是這個，衛福部被關注的也是管制用藥。 |
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0.444 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:11:24.672000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:11:28.014000+08:00 |
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對，這個可能你們要跨部會去做。是。 |
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0.929 |
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杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:11:28.675000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:11:43.783000+08:00 |
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已經有共識，就是針對一些管制的部分，雙部會臚列出來以後，我覺得針對這一些受關注的藥品，管理的強度、流向呈報的強度跟頻度都會再加強。 |
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0.932 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:11:45.344000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:11:45.745000+08:00 |
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現在還沒有開始？ |
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0.714 |
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杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:11:48.026000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:11:57.612000+08:00 |
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未來我們的辦法跟執行上都會納入，做最大頻度跟管理制度上的加強。 |
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0.931 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:11:57.612000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:12:20.518000+08:00 |
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一方面也要保障寵物的生命安全，另外一方面，相關的管制藥品應該怎麼跟衛福部溝通，不能說用在人的部分有管制，結果非經濟動物的部分沒有。 |
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0.967 |
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杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:12:20.679000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:12:22.880000+08:00 |
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不會，因為人用藥畢竟已經非常成熟。對。 |
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0.812 |
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杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:12:24.402000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:12:24.762000+08:00 |
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我們還是要建立機制。 |
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0.556 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:12:25.563000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:12:35.050000+08:00 |
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我是說，因為衛福部這邊已經有一個很嚴格的把關機制在，所以你們可能要跟他們溝通。會。 |
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0.946 |
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杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:12:35.050000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:12:37.893000+08:00 |
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在一個行政院體系下，我們會合作，通力合作。 |
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0.889 |
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楊委員曜 |
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2026-04-15T14:12:38.273000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:12:39.538000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝署長，謝謝主席。 |
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1 |
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杜署長麗華 |
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2026-04-15T14:12:39.618000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:12:39.699000+08:00 |
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謝謝，謝謝委員。 |
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0.667 |
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主席 |
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2026-04-15T14:12:39.699000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T14:12:39.859000+08:00 |
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謝謝楊曜委員的質詢。 |
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0.444 |
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主席 |
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2026-04-15T14:12:40.359000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-15T14:12:43.216143+08:00 |
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現在請洪毓祥委員質詢。 |
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0 |