| IVOD_ID |
168593 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168593 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-26-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-15T13:27:51+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-15T13:41:35+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:44 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3ec77822e2e6eae339c89cbad94714808ea785098ebfecd577f1ea19c72f00146869bf68ab9a87a45ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
楊瓊瓔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:27:51 - 13:41:35 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：邀請衛生福利部部長、行政院經貿談判辦公室、經濟部、農業部、教育部就「美國貿易代表署發布《2026年各國貿易評估報告》（2026NTE）提及技術性貿易壁壘或食品安全檢驗與動植物防疫檢疫SPS）壁壘之豬肉、牛肉與牛肉產品、β促進劑的最大殘留容許量等各項食農相關產品及技術之要求，我國所承諾之措施、移除產品禁令或取消輸入口岸檢疫程序等，並特就其中開放切片馬鈴薯帶芽（或腐爛或發黴）仍能整批進口與其敦促撤銷基改食品進校園，對我國食品安全造成之衝擊與因應作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
邀請衛生福利部、農業部、行政院消費者保護處就「寵物用藥新制上路在即，犬貓及非經濟動物急重症醫療銜接、藥品流向管理、飼主取得可近性與消費權益保障之整體配套」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
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感謝主席 陽學文發言 邀請部長原始部長兩位人好 部長好等一下 等那個電腦 |
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好 部長好你認不認識圖卡上面的這些人這是在11年前為了保護我們的下一代我們堅持修訂學校衛生法也就是禁止基改的食材進入校園藍綠大家一起努力去完成在11年前那所以呢這是我們非常重視的一個食安紅線 |
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所以在美方2026年NTE的時候的這個報告當中他說 他實際上說 不會希望能夠放寬這個部分那本席要說的 如果在美方的要求我們任意的輕言退讓那同時就是面臨著朝野立委的政治反彈 |
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所以本席要在這邊來請教基改食品因為當時民進黨告訴台灣的家長說基改食品是給豬吃的飼料及黃豆這句話那孩子在學校因為他沒有選擇權所以政府必須要代位的來把關那部長11年過去了 |
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現在美國在2026年的NTE裡頭他報告一指責我們說是貿易壁壘那當時的飼料豆突然要變成了食品嗎請做說明跟委員說明在我們初步的這個ART裡面呢對於基改食品的措施的沒有改變所以仍然維持這個基改食品不進校園一定要確定 |
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打這個關因為美國指令我們的是什麼呢他說缺乏科學證據但是我要再一次的強調我們當時通過這個法案最重要的最重要是基於學童無權選擇 |
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他沒有選擇權所以政府必須代位的來管理這個責任就是當時我們通過最重要的學校衛生法已經是明定喔它是 約法是明定禁止四項 |
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這個就是說我們通過的法律這是我們主權國家的一個法律根源並不是行政部門可以隨便的來妥協的行政命令所以因此2014年到2025年的時候呢政府跟我們的家長團體大家達成這個共識就是社會契約就是社會契約所以呢我們長期 |
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對於國民認為這個還是有風險的疑慮的一個情況之下絕對不能不能貿然的退讓所以剛剛我要特別強調的美方的經貿報告是美方的立場 |
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是美方的立場但是我們台灣學生的參和是我們主權國家的這個紅線所以我還是要再一次的強調部長一定要把關好這個政府一定要把關好不能有任何的退讓 對不對 |
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跟委員說明 目前在ART簽訂的內容裡面呢那麼校園一樣是沒有基改絕對不能有基改使用的還是以國產豬 國產為主好 你講到的豬 我們繼續來講萊劑的內臟 全豬的開放他們也有這個要求 你的立場我們就是按照科學證據 那麼國際的標準然後再經過我們的健康風險評估來訂定 |
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哇 那這個有疑慮喔因為它是要求全部未開放但是我們針對於是這樣牛的部分因為過去在這個BSE也就是狂牛症的風險等級變動了它本來美國是被歸類在風險可控制國家現在是風險可忽略國家所以這兩個在國際標準上它的管控 |
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風險可忽略國家是全部都可以進口的它是沒有風險疑慮的所以這剛才本席說的好 不要咬人絕字了本席要強調的要求要 他們要要求全豬開放你們的立場到底是什麼也就是內臟的部分 |
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如果照剛剛署長 部長你這麼說那個豬的內臟已經開放了所以依照你的說法是如果符合這個標準它是OK的 都OK的喔對對對 就是按照我們的安全容許量所以部長本席認為我們應該要嚴格的來把關因為我們一直強調要怎麼樣讓我們的食安安全我們不能自動的來過濾萊克多巴胺 |
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我們一定是按照這個國際標準跟國人的健康來把關沒有問題國人的健康把關一定要全面的這個來管控好那現在本席手上拿的是馬鈴薯發芽的馬鈴薯好 發芽的馬鈴薯 |
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有發芽的馬鈴薯照國人的食用也就是有發芽它因為它含有龍葵鹼它是有毒的所以一定會丟掉這個丟掉本身要請教回應美方技術性的貿易壁壘的一個關切 |
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有要研議帶芽切片的馬鈴薯進口加工改由工廠自主篩選有沒有這回事不是這樣簡單的說就是過去在海關齁你這個整批裡面只要一顆發芽整批退啦 |
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現在的做法是如果有發現有這個發芽的話整批封存然後到一個指定的加工地點再去做剔除而不是整批把它退加工去剔除誰把關你把這個有發芽的你讓他自主去把關他已經切片做成薯條薯片誰知道消費者誰會知道我知道的到底有沒有發芽的馬鈴薯 |
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跟委員說明即使是國內的馬鈴薯也有同樣的情況也都需要做剔除在國內採收之後那麼他保存然後送到工廠一樣會出現有發芽的馬鈴薯所以也是要剔除所以作業上呢誰把關請教 |
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這個就是我說的技術性的跪下嘛你原本是由政府來把關嘛你現在由工廠自行來把關嘛你不是技術性的跪下嗎對不對本期再一次強調當這樣子的一個情況當它變成薯片薯條的時候消費者誰會知道我吃下的這些切片式的到底有沒有發芽 |
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對 所以 不論是進口 不論是本土我們都一樣的標準在把關一樣的標準所以 署長 部長 |
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政府的風險管理應該由政府來把關而不是由廠商來自主去控管良心控管消費者要求的是我要知道的政府把關然後建立制度那麼這個加工業者呢也要自律所以我們都有標準在所以消費者你沒有問題民眾有問題啊我知道的你如果進口切片式的萬一他是有發芽的那消費者怎麼會知道請教 |
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都是要剔除的 那我們後面還要解釋標準 |
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我們就有要求廠商自己來剔除嘛糧食自己來剔除嘛對不對從農地出來的也有可能是有發芽的馬鈴薯所以一樣的標準在把關消費者希望要有安全的食品安全的食物這非常重要不要技術性的跪下這個是非常重要這個紅線絕對不能退最後一個議題寵物用藥 |
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到目前為止大家抗議之後你完全沒有配套在這樣情況之下你跟農業部還好煞車緩了接下來怎麼做接下來怎麼做 |
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因為本席要求特別針對集中性心臟病氣管擴張這些救命藥這些救命藥你是不是能夠比照人類醫院給予醫師有絕對的備藥權 |
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才不會讓他們醫藥分類的這個情況之下呢變成毛小孩在診間斷氣的理由這是我們很難過耶因為我們現在的毛小孩已經統計超過340萬隻比14歲以下的孩子還要多耶我們統計出來那這怎麼辦這些急重症緊急狀況的怎麼辦 |
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跟委員說明目前這個農業部已經有公告701個人用藥品可以用在這個動物身上所以這個701種我們都會確保讓獸醫師可以拿得到所以一定會做到這樣 |
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那麼接下來是說流用流向的管理使用的管理的規定會再重新由這個農業部跟我們來會商這個政府有問題啊這麼嚴肅的議題沒有配套你竟然就如此的一個宣布然後再來停止停止民眾更緊張啊 |
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在新的辦法沒有出來之前都可以供應大家都可以拿得到請教你這個有語病喔新的辦法還沒有出來都可以留用新的辦法出來什麼時候要出來可不可以所以新的辦法出來之前這個701種的人用藥已經公告的部分藥商可以什麼時候會出來 |
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你現在講這有語病啊新的辦法還沒出來都可以留新的辦法到底內容是什麼又會一個沒有配套就宣布讓全國緊張的方案出來嗎報告委員那個剛剛部長也講得很清楚我們現在大概會註銷原來的公告 |
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什麼時候要註銷這個大家很期待什麼時候要註銷這兩天會註銷行政程序順利的話應該是就會很快速來做公告今天禮拜三這個禮拜會註銷已經在這個禮拜會註銷讓大家放心我們盡量盡量好這個禮拜註銷那新的公告呢那我們先確保一個就是他現在的這個用藥的可以用是維持對是維持是維持那新的公告呢會不會又轉用髮夾彎了呢 |
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就已經要正式完善這個制度就一定往更好的方向去承認上一次的不完善我們願意接受但是不要再製造人民的恐慌這個禮拜會註銷什麼時候會公告 |
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對 就是註銷的移併公告註銷文是一定會移併公告的在註銷文裡面也會確保確保這個藥商跟藥局供應無虞給我們的獸醫院就是他可以留用嘛講最清楚的就是如此嘛所以會在這個禮拜會去註銷跟公告就註銷文的公告 是是註銷原文的公告啦那你的新公告什麼時候出來啊 |
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不是 那辦法 辦法什麼時候會出來你辦法什麼時候會出來因為辦法會涉及到整個你大概什麼時候會出來你讓人民安心嘛你這個禮拜去註銷原公告嘛那你什麼時候辦法會出來啊假設我們還是有進行很多法治以後要跟所有相關利害關係人這個月底會公告出來吧可能因為 |
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那個辦法 假設有共識當然行政座也很快所以這個部分要逐條逐條去建構當然是如此啊所以你們要公告就隨隨隨隨便公告 然後再來註銷然後現在要怎麼樣的辦法還不知道 難怪人民 |
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目前是委員現在這樣講是說原來要實施的這個辦法那綁手綁腳的部分至少我們將它註銷掉那維持現有的制度然後我們再重新兩方對再制定新的我們一個結論謝謝第一個這個禮拜內會將原公告來取消來註銷這一個我們達成共識 |
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讓大家放心還是可以備用留用第二個新的辦法也要進速去告訴民眾讓民眾能夠安心謝謝 |