| IVOD_ID |
168581 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168581 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-15T11:39:43+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-15T11:51:07+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:24 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3ec77822e2e6eae35cd21c9cd278af59ba64134b0f452f2ee6b800412f8d870b4e5686418a82e3265ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許智傑 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:39:43 - 11:51:07 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請交通部部長陳世凱、經濟部次長、國家發展委員會副主任委員及農業部就「因應中東情勢，國際油價飆升對於我國陸海空運輸之衝擊評估與因應策略」進行專題報告，並備質詢。【4月15日及16日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝我們帥氣的召委我們請部長請陳部長還有民航局民航局何局長委員好謝謝應該部長跟局長也要加帥氣跟美麗謝謝好 謝謝 其實這一次的我想中東的狀況大家都很難估計 |
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也希望說我們不管是油還是這些票價問題交通部能夠盡量協助其他的我想該進步還是要進步我想謝謝我們民航局事實上也一直都很辛苦在我們高雄在努力 |
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不過就是說我們整體的案件還是要注意之前那個虎航掌鍋事件這個部長應該知道吧是知道有看到新聞那這個案件呢我們從兩個角度來看一個就是機場那個航空公司他們當然會處理就是說將來列入黑名單的部分這個是必要的一個動作 |
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但是我們在想說整個飛航安全是不是應該一併做考量所以關於這個黑名單的問題現在是只有各個航空公司自己的黑名單嗎還是我們民航局會有一個整體的思考像委員報告目前看起來航空公司他們會做自己的考量包含危險的客人或者是配合度比較低的客人會做限制搭船的部分那目前民航局是沒有做這方面的限制 |
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我現在有個具體建議事實上我們銀行局跟交通部可以做一個思考就是說在銀行的徵信大家都知道信用不好的會有一個聯合徵信中心 |
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那這個信用不好的人 事實上你今天在機場發生一個這個尤其是飛機上發生這個斬鍋事件一來就是要保護我們的飛行人員以及服務人員的安全之外另外就是會影響到顧客的品質所以就是說這個只要發生一件 有可能你在今天坐這艘飛機的顧客心情都不太好 |
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所以類似這樣子一個惡意打人的事件我覺得這個是在飛機上是非常嚴重的事那是不是我們從公部門的角度不只是航空公司個別的管理就是在整個民航的管理方面是不是有個不一樣的思考 |
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像委員報告我們目前我們的民用航空法裡面其實有相關的罰則啦如果真的發生相關的事件那民航警局他們都會依法來處理那該處罰都會處罰所以我是這樣建議齁但是委員在建議的就是說有沒有可能航空公司跟民航局的所屬的一些航空工廠站也好大家來做協調這個我們後續來做討論就是說我今天 |
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銀行的信用不好的認證中心他都會互相可以去查閱然後當然銀行你要不要貸款給這個信用不好的人銀行自己要負責但是我至少查得到說這個人曾經在其他的銀行信用不好 |
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那我的黑名單如果有一個類似聯合處理中心的話就是說我今天不管在虎航不管在華航任何航空公司發生這一種事件除了你個別航空公司把它定為黑名單之外是不是有一個聯合中心可以讓我查得到那當然你航空公司要不要讓它屬於黑名單的部分要不要讓它搭乘的部分航空公司自己會決定嘛 |
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那我們是不是多一個這樣子的機制可以讓航空公司多一個參考那避免就是這一種人會更多這個對他會有嚇阻作用啦那我想不管是機上的安全跟乘客的品質這個是整體可以做一個思考的是不是交通部跟航空局、民航局可以做一個這樣子的思考 |
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是 謝謝委員 您在關心的這個方向 很有建設性也很好那我所知道是華航公司 現在整個集團 他們其實是聯合通報的華航 我請高董來說一下 華航集團所有的航空公司 大家其實是聯合在一起通報的 |
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對於這種類似在飛機上面會造成我們困擾的我們叫做不再提供服務的旅客這名單我們集團裡面我們是所以就是華航華信 |
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這三家跟其他航空公司就沒臉嘛對不對那有沒有機會民航局就是我們就是以民航的角度不是以單一航空公司的角度啦是不是可以做一個這樣一個整體的思考 |
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跟維園報告確實如果是從在機上服務避免這些旅客有影響那當然有一個黑名單的制度就是說看起來是一個可行方向不過因為我想這個黑名單的制度如果擴及到所有的航空公司都一樣的話那涉及的就是我們台灣也是海島其實到有些地方一定要靠航空運輸 |
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所以我想這個問題其實可能要從幾個面向再去思考那容我們後面我們再找學者專家然後來進一步思考我的意思是這樣局長也可以思考一下我不是說他全部都列為共同的黑名單不是啦就是剛剛我講為什麼聯合徵信中心會說這個人就信用不好信用不好是我查得到但是呢他航空公司那個銀行要不要借錢給他銀行自己做決定嘛 |
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那航空公司說他曾經在其他航空公司也曾經打人的曾經這種表現不好的我就做一個例子的嘛那你今天航空公司彼此可以查得到嘛那你要不要把他列為黑名單航空公司有時候會自己去斟酌嘛甚至他要剔除黑名單要什麼方式以後要怎麼承諾要怎麼樣表現這個是航空公司跟他個別的事情那也就是說黑名單 |
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是航空公司自己跟個人的事但是我有一個聯合的處理中心就是說我會記錄曾經在飛機上尤其是打過人這個算是嚴重的事件我要把它記錄下來那我在雖然他在其他航空公司在虎航打過人但是我今天是長榮航空也可以知道他曾經這一個人就是在虎航打過人類似這樣子的選擇他們會自己最後去做決定 |
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那這只是一個參考我相信這個參考應該對於要求對於要求在飛機上再發生這種重複事件的案例就可以少很多 它會怕啦不然它拍了之後不能坐飛機對它來說也損失很大謝謝委員您的這個建議我們會來做參考也會來做討論這個再麻煩斟酌一下那再來就是這個行動電源行動電源我們現在4月1號有新制 |
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那就是說將來行動電源可以帶上機場的就帶上飛機的就兩個嘛那禁止充電嘛那這個其實我們現在現在是宣導階段還是處罰階段剛剛委員報告已經4月8號開始直施了然後基本上就是如果有違反規定的話就依照民用航空法來執行 |
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這個其實看起來是小事卻是大事啦你看韓國釜山航空曾經因為一顆行動電池造成整個飛機燒起來所以這是看起來是很小的事但是實際這影響飛案也很大所以我是建議就是說現在人民可能現在都不見得普遍有這個觀念所以希望民防局可以再多宣導 |
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好 謝謝委員我們在各航空公站還有航空公司包含觀光署這邊我們都有全部在實施前就有一個宣導期甚至將來有沒有可能像韓國這麼嚴格這個也都是考量的範圍是 這個我們會持續這個非常很重要最後一個我簡單再問一下就是說謝謝我們民航局就是說我高雄現在安檢的部分有三條線嘛 |
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那現在民防局打算四條先這個先謝謝部長跟局長這部分讓我們高雄將來可以更快速但是還有一個越快速的像那個美國那個Clear Plus它們這些它是年費蠻好玩的年費一年大概六千台幣 |
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速度就快很多他就是照臉你所有的證件之前就先審核通過然後呢你通過之後你就是走過去臉一照你就可以快速通關了那這個部分台灣現在還沒有做是不是有這個規劃可以儘快 |
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我想跟委員報告確實如果有這樣的一個通關快速的作業快速的通道然後讓我們一些安檢作業不用人工的去做處理是比較快的那基本上這個部分我們松山機場這個部分已經有跟這個航空公司還有這個建置的服務商其實有做一個一個招標案那目前也剛好大概建置好可是在測試期間 |
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那對於整個系統因為高雄也有它的特性還有包含它的空間所以基本上我們也會請高雄來研究然後也會參考松山機場的案例所以現在松山機場已經招標出去了對 它基本上是已經出去了可是它是真的我聽到的是桃園機場我們桃園機場也在配合T3航廈 未來也會建置所以會有 高雄的部分也會在研議當中所以松山現在是標出去了桃園機場現在在研議 |
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不是我們T3就會做了現在T3就會做了那大概什麼時候開始使用我們就是配合T3的營運來一起使用所以還要多久我們明年來完工T3是明年完工然後會經過營運準備以後來進入營運期那是不是高雄一起思考 |
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高雄我們也會在未來的新航廈的部分來做規劃設計要等到新航廈那很久短期間的就是我們剛剛講就是說松山機場有先做他有他的一個條件那高雄機場我們也會同步來我希望不要等到新航廈啦 |
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先規劃了因為這個真的是夠嘛又快速又方便新航廈一定會納入啦但是現在短期之間我們來討論一下看怎麼讓他可以先加速啦好不好等到新航廈我等不及希望能加速好謝謝 |