| IVOD_ID |
168521 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168521 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-15T09:37:43+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-15T09:44:22+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:39 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3ec77822e2e6eae3d6afe2fd4e1f109c354b0245b1feb432957eaa2632da1fa16b54fa05dac5ead05ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
楊瓊瓔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:37:43 - 09:44:22 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長、國家發展委員會主任委員、運動部首長、教育部首長及財政部首長就「我國運動產業發展之政策規劃、人才培育、跨部會資源整合、相關租稅優惠執行成效、未來產值提升目標，及先進國家運動產業政策之分析比較」進行報告，並備質詢。
【4月15日及4月16日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 楊卿發言人邀請運動部跟國防部運動部黃市長 國防部業主委委員長 |
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兩位早 我們看到近年社會上發生了隨機殺人的事件家庭關係疏離跟工人的一個失調惡劣 毒癮 暴力等這些事件那有些的案例雖然有相關的體系在作負責在案但是沒有辦法去發揮到疫情的一個機制以及支持家人 |
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支持家庭跟個人的一個功能那所以沒有辦法隨即的及時的去遏止旱事的發生那我們看到行政院在推動了從這個社會安全網的計畫2018年到2030年現在是2026那所以總共編列的是898億元那希望要接住每一個脆弱家庭跟在這個 |
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體制邊緣的人呢需要幫助的人可以把他接住但是我們看到最近發生的這些因性侵未成的這個球員遭判刑確定的這個教練他出獄後他一樣可以到基層的體育圈去甚至出現在運動部支持的這個賽斯中來當指導球員他 |
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這個影響到我們的孩童的一個安全 國員的一個安全所以在這樣的情況之下 這個問題在於化部會的資料沒有去整合法務部 刑事記錄 威武部 兒少通報 運動部教育 這個教練的管理系統 |
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他在這個層級當中每一個部會等於是鍛煉導致不適應的人呢 他繞過了這個監督他可以繼續去接觸這些人所以本集要提出 也就是結構性的一個漏洞那請教次長 運動部派遣確定的性侵教練可以回到場邊去擔任指導 |
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那這該怎麼辦呢問題不在個案喔而是在整個制度方面背景查核是不是要列入在你的項目之內來保障這些人目前我們的規劃的確是往這邊來走我們在新版的國民體育法的修法當中明確的要求那些叫做非積極性的 |
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消極資格的定義我們把它定義出來也就是這一些不是的人我們可以把它公佈出來這一步每三年要盤整一事 |
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我們現在的狀況是我們的同仁會每天上去查不適任的人就把他拿掉那現在在公佈不適任的人當中目前在法院的授權上面還沒有到那個地方什麼時候要出來被警察列為所有的補助賽事跟場館使用的強制條件你認不認同 |
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這個可以在未來的那個消極條件當中我們把它明定出來我們就可以執行同意這個方向嘛所以速度要盡快那國發會到目前為止我們發現了這些斷鏈漏洞那你國會會的立場要怎麼樣去整合這相關單位法務部 |
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運動部教育部這些的單位你應該要有一個整合的一個機制啊不然你各司其長鍛鍊就出現啊請說明 |
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這個部分我是不是可以讓我去跟其他督導的那個政委去協調一下你本來就應當要這麼做啊對對對因為運動部不是在我督導的那一個業務裡面但我會去跟督導業務的你的社會安全網從2018年到2030年你必須要去做這個整合的工作好不好趕快去努力不要再有斷鏈運動部本期再請教 |
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因為有選手在閩南東澳的時候呢他發現他必須要打這個氣喘的藥但是水警醫師不在差一點讓他喪失資格像這樣的個案你們最後的處置是說因為個案 |
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個案來處理但是本行認為是在整個制度方面這個對選手來講非常非常的重要那針對這樣的個案在整個制度你要怎麼去做調整在整個隨行醫療的部分要怎麼樣去做調整 |
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目前這個案子並不是用個案來處理的確就當事醫師我們部長已經做很清楚的裁釋可是未來在國家對醫的選擇上面我們已經慢慢地在制定一個選擇的標準沒有平常在跟運動員有互動的一些醫師沒有平常去累積跟運動員互動的一些經驗我們是不會遴選他進來我們將會去制定一個遴選的標準讓他有經過培養跟訓練什麼時候會出來 |
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這應該在今年的前半年就可以出來了一定要盡快讓我們的選手一定要安心前半年現在已經四月中旬什麼時候會出來在六月以前應該可以做得到六月底以前出來因為我們要避免這樣子的憾事發生這個非常的重要所以市長對於我們整個國家代表隊純對醫師的遴選 |
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以及他初情的管理這很重要初情的管理這個才是精髓才是精神才是要執行那麼你們在6月底以前去完成整個明確的責任機制跟即時監督的制度包括本期建議在場的義務 |
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交接的機制以及為師處分因為你要預估萬一他發生有事情那我們的人要怎麼樣有交接的這個機制才不會影響到我們的選手這三項的方向朝這個方向你認同嗎是的是的所以我們期待技術去把它完成是讓我們的選手都能夠安心的參加國際賽事是好 謝謝楊太太 |
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謝謝主席，楊瓊瓔發言，邀請運動部跟國發會。 |
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請運動部黃次長、國發會葉主委。 |
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委員早。 |
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我們看到近年社會上發生了隨機殺人事件，以及隨著家庭關係疏離跟功能失調所產生的兒虐、毒癮、暴力等事件，有些案例雖然有相關的體系服務在案，但是沒有辦法發揮預警的機制，以及支持家庭跟個人的功能，所以沒有辦法即時遏止憾事發生。 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:38:36.200000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:39:28.400000+08:00 |
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我們看到行政院在推動社會安全網計畫，從2018年到2030年，現在是2026年，總共編列了898億元，希望接住每一個脆弱家庭跟在體制邊緣需要幫助的人，但是我們看到最近發生的性侵未成年球員遭判刑確定的教練，出獄後一樣可以到基層體育圈去，甚至出現在運動部支持的賽事中指導球員，影響到我們孩童的安全、國人的安全。 |
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0.953 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:39:31.482000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:39:55.597000+08:00 |
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這個問題的發生在於跨部會的資料沒有整合，法務部的刑事紀錄、衛福部兒少通報、運動部教練的管理系統，在這個層面每一個部會等於是斷鏈，導致不適任的人繞過了監督，可以繼續接觸這些人。 |
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0.85 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:39:56.538000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:40:10.755000+08:00 |
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所以本席要提出一個結構性的漏洞，請教運動部次長，判刑確定的性侵教練可以回到場邊去擔任指導，這該怎麼辦呢？ |
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0.854 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:40:11.715000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:40:22.122000+08:00 |
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問題不在個案，而是在整個制度，背景查核是不是要列入你們的項目之內來保障這些人？ |
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0.972 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
黃次長啟煌 |
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2026-04-15T09:40:22.542000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:40:41.607000+08:00 |
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目前我們的規劃的確是往這邊來走，我們在新版的國民體育法的修法當中，明確地定義消極資格，也就是我們可以把這些不適任的人公布出來。 |
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0.814 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:40:43.369000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:40:45.230000+08:00 |
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教育部每三年要盤整一次，那運動部呢？ |
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0.438 |
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黃次長啟煌 |
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2026-04-15T09:40:47.923000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:00.455000+08:00 |
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我們現在的狀況是同仁會每天上去查，有不適任的人就把他拿掉，但是關於公布不適任的人，目前在法源的授權上面還沒有到那個地方，所以我們要…… |
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0.803 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:00.715000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:01.195000+08:00 |
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什麼時候會出來？ |
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0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-04-15T09:41:01.255000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:01.736000+08:00 |
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將背景查核列為所有補助賽事跟場館使用的強制條件，你認不認同？ |
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0.821 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
黃次長啟煌 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:10.163000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:15.186000+08:00 |
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這個可以在未來的消極條件當中明定出來，我們就可以執行。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:15.526000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:16.407000+08:00 |
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同意這個方向嘛！ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:17.027000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:18.288000+08:00 |
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所以速度要儘快。是。 |
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0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:20.409000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:32.337000+08:00 |
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請問國發會，到目前為止，我們發現了這些斷鏈、漏洞，就國發會的立場要怎麼去整合這些相關單位，包括法務部、運動部、教育部？ |
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0.863 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:33.058000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:38.885000+08:00 |
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針對這些單位你應該要有一個整合的機制，不要各司其掌，否則斷鏈就會出現啊！ |
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0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-04-15T09:41:39.046000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:39.046000+08:00 |
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請說明。 |
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1 |
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葉主任委員俊顯 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:42.251000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:47.495000+08:00 |
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這個部分，可否讓我去跟其他負責督導的政委協調一下？ |
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0.87 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:47.796000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:49.257000+08:00 |
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你本來就應當要這麼做啊！ |
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1 |
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葉主任委員俊顯 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:50.818000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:56.703000+08:00 |
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對、對、對，運動部不是在我督導的業務裡面，但我會去跟負責督導業務的政委協調。 |
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0.818 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:41:57.223000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:42:04.509000+08:00 |
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社會安全網計畫從2018年執行到2030年，你必須要去做這個整合的工作，好不好？好。 |
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0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:42:04.789000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:42:07.551000+08:00 |
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趕快去努力，不要再有斷鏈。好。 |
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0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:42:07.551000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:42:20.757000+08:00 |
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本席再請教運動部，有選手在參加米蘭冬奧時，發現自己必須施打氣喘藥，但是隨行醫師不在，差一點讓他喪失資格。 |
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0.66 |
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楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:42:21.477000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:42:36.627000+08:00 |
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像這樣的個案，你們最後的處置是依個案來處理，但是本席認為，在整個制度方面，這對選手來講非常非常重要，針對這樣的個案，在整個制度上你要怎麼調整？ |
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0.953 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-04-15T09:42:37.188000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:42:40.590000+08:00 |
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在整個隨行醫療的部分，要怎麼樣調整？ |
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1 |
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黃次長啟煌 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-15T09:42:41.371000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:43:02.819000+08:00 |
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目前這個案子並不是用個案處理，的確就當事的醫師，我們部長已經做了很清楚地裁示，可是未來在國家隊醫的選擇上，我們已經慢慢在制定一個選擇的標準，平常沒有跟運動員互動、平常沒有去累積跟運動員互動經驗的醫師，我們不會遴選他們進來，而且我們會制定一個遴選的標準，讓他們經過培養跟訓練之後…… |
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0.86 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:43:02.819000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:43:02.959000+08:00 |
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這個部分什麼時候會提出來？ |
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0.583 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
黃次長啟煌 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-15T09:43:10.161000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:43:11.742000+08:00 |
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應該在今年的前半年就可以提出來了，已經在研議了。 |
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0.682 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:43:12.022000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:43:19.526000+08:00 |
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一定要儘快，讓我們的選手一定要安心，你說前半年會提出來，現在已經是4月中旬，什麼時候會提出來？ |
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0.78 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
黃次長啟煌 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-15T09:43:19.526000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:43:20.787000+08:00 |
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我們在6月底以前應該可以做得到。 |
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0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:43:20.947000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:43:41.159000+08:00 |
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6月底以前提出來，因為我們要避免這樣的憾事發生，這個非常重要，對於我們整個國家代表隊隨隊醫師的遴選以及他出勤上的管理，這很重要，出勤的管理，這個才是精髓、才是精神、才是要執行。 |
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0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:43:42.360000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:44:10.683000+08:00 |
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請你在6月底以前完成整個明確的責任機制跟即時監督的制度，包括本席所建議的，在場的義務、交接的機制以及違失處分，因為你也要預估萬一他發生什麼事情，其他的人員要有怎麼樣的交接機制，才不會影響到我們的選手，朝這三個方向努力，你認同嗎？是的。 |
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0.84 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:44:12.124000+08:00 |
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2026-04-15T09:44:17.469000+08:00 |
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我們期待你們儘速完成，讓我們的選手都能夠安心地參加國際賽事。是。 |
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0.828 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:44:17.969000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-15T09:44:21.397571+08:00 |
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謝謝楊瓊瓔委員，次長先回座。 |
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0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
楊委員瓊瓔 |
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2026-04-15T09:44:21.697571+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-15T09:44:24.840429+08:00 |
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下一位請陳亭妃委員質詢。 |
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