| IVOD_ID |
168475 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168475 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-13T11:22:59+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-13T11:36:37+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:38 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5655ee4938da65e17be1526c7c61d45de63d9eaeca1783e3aa0fde58f0e31cf20aec3227c6a1e6575ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅明才 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:22:59 - 11:36:37 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿、中央銀行、國家發展委員會、經濟部率台灣電力股份有限公司董事長及台灣中油股份有限公司董事長、衛生福利部、法務部就「中東衝突對能源、物價、民生與醫療物資供應及市場秩序之中長期影響與因應檢討，暨因應國際情勢強化經濟社會及民生國安韌性特別預算執行情形」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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主席各位出列席官員主席柯某請你剛剛質詢都上來好了好再一次啦好 謝謝最近大家都很關心首先就是問一下是國安會副主委 |
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我剛剛聽你講的有幾個地方好像還蠻精彩的請問一下高副主委還有相關的官員現在就是萬物飆漲請問副主委現在有什麼美漲 |
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我覺得因為這個是世界各國都面對的問題因為石原油跟天然氣是所有產品生產的重要的原物料之一那它當然它價格上漲一定會導致幾乎所有產品都會影響到它的所以都一直漲不見得因為就台灣來說其實我們採取的 |
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那個油價的這個雙平穩的制度包括我們啞鈴最低價我們設法把外在的衝擊儘量就是減輕對國內相關的油氣價格的一些漲幅的變動其實我是一個簡單的問題啦因為在民間如果年輕人對答講話A跟B講說哇現在萬物飆漲B會回答就是說有一個東西沒漲 |
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你猜猜該是什麼兩個字叫做薪水所以這個民間的新生你剛講那麼多我們在聽啊而且你長你也可以講啊台積電也長啊台積電長我覺得是你也很開心嘛去年台積電的那個腳褲這個是多少 |
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大概兩三百億那台積電放到現在已經漲到快兩千塊會不會賣基本上台積電是我們國發基金的核心持股所以咧不會釋出一張都不會賣 |
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基本上我們最近幾年都一張都沒有賣那明年會不會賣?今年會不會賣?我們沒有,我們短期沒有釋出的計畫短期是指三天還是五天?近期近期是指一個月還是兩個月?我覺得我們的事股我們有國發經濟有事股的政策跟原則其實為什麼高的時候你們不要事股咧? |
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我覺得台積電是台灣的在半導體裡面因為非常重要的一個廠商然後半導體也是台灣在全球的供應鏈裡面占有非常關鍵的地位好 2000塊嘛 你的成本是多少 |
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應該現在如果加上配股配息應該是幾乎零成本零成本哇 你看這塊多肥啊這樣子喔國家有難的時候年輕人現在很辛苦萬屋飆漲口袋裡沒什麼錢上次普發現金一萬你有沒有領到我想每個人都有領到大概百分之九十八現場有沒有人沒領到請舉手 |
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全部都領了 這個政策很好 大家領了很開心所以現在遇到的問題就是石油飆漲 影響到萬物起漲那本席有提一個案 就是像韓國現在也在對石油的幫忙 補助 |
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這個津貼啦 叫石油津貼我現在已經在提案了獲得大多數委員沒有個人反對啊我現在就要連署了可是他們就說錢那怎麼辦咧我大概還是一個就是大概一萬塊左右 |
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那理由就是因為網路飆漲連手搖飲也開始漲滷肉飯 雞腿飯 蜘蛛餐你有沒有去吃蜘蛛餐我那一句他說親愛的顧客從即日開始每樣都漲十塊錢 |
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所以因為這個石油漲錯不在民眾所以我們要幫助民眾特別是幫助年輕人所以再來一次今年就是石油津貼每一個人石油津貼一萬塊你贊不贊成 |
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我想要跟委員報告我們今年的第一季的CPI只有1.23其實遠較於我們預估的1.38為低所以我想要糾正一次台灣並不是萬物齊掌這個事實我從CPI當然我覺得委員你說的外食費這一塊的確是比我們的CPI來得高可是我記得3月也降到3%以下了對不對 |
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所以的確我們有一些民眾的那些小吃某個程度上的反應不見得是這次的美意戰爭包括我們其實我們台灣某個程度確保還有一些基本工資調升的問題你要講就是有些都沒講 |
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但是現在民眾的反應就是那麼強烈那第二個我要另外這個時間關係我要問你的是就是說你剛剛講台積電兩千塊你們不會賣嘛短期不會賣那請問現在兩千塊你會不會買基本上我們是我們股票信託我們是不能進出的不是 你會不會再買啦就是說我以我現在以政務官的我們是沒有辦法購買單一的這些股票所以你不會再買台積電了 |
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就是 我想 我不能買 目前我無法好 你不能買 就是不買就對了那你現在那個台積電部門你手上的持股價值總共多少市值 手上6.5%嘛你這樣算起來 你們手上持有的台積電市值是多少好幾兆吧好幾兆 別找啊 你說幾兆啊回答你 你在跑啊幾兆國化基金 |
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就是我們現在有6.5%的台積電的持股市值多少我想我要查一下你要查 趕快查一下你旁邊查完這個回答數字下一位請經濟部那未來的 你是次長那次長 我一直想說你是快升部長了做得好就有機會升部長那現在萬物起漲 電會不會漲 |
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我們在3月27號電價審議委員會已經決議今年上半年的電價不調整上半年不調整 那就7月開始就會調了根據電價審議委員的一個判斷跟他的評估這些狀況都是短期的現象的話因為油價上上下下油價電你先hold住嘛水會不會漲我們現在沒有這個計畫 |
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水不會漲喔油電水氣天然氣漲了沒天然氣的話我們每個月檢討因為天然氣的一個定價那個瓦斯桶小吃店都是Gas LPG LPG有沒有漲沒有調整今天燒肉不好叫 |
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因為每個人都想說 哇 都很忙啊 叫不到工送啊以前要送 哇 A不送 B就送現在又有點 嘶 就是啊 我沒錢啦 沒錢啦會不會有這樣的情況出現 |
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統裝瓦斯,那夠用就好啦,事實上你家裡面儲存的太多,事實上也造成一些管理上面或是安全上的問題物價你們還是要看住啦,好不好,謝謝另外請那個央行好了 |
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布總裁你好我很好現在那個全世界有經過伊朗現在都說要收那個虛擬貨幣比特幣央行現在計畫推出了央行的數字貨幣你們以後最大的一顆是價值大概多少錢 |
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我們目前只是在研議研議的時候今年沒有推出就是下半年下半年不推出就是明年明年你說還沒好 那後年請問你比特幣現在一顆多少錢 |
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我印象中應該是六七萬了吧六七萬 之前漲到十二萬那以後推出的央行的數字貨幣最大的一顆要價值大概多少錢報告委員 因為這個我們內部我們並沒有對外公布所以我也不方便你對外不要公布啊 你在立法院公布就好了 |
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因為我們現在只是在研議我們並沒有對外研議中最大顆一顆大概是價值多少錢我們那個計價的定位其實是要思考的政府在推動的是穩定幣的問題現在有四家金控準備要介入虛擬貨幣交易所 |
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那是虛擬貨幣交易但是跟穩定幣還是有一點距離你虛擬貨幣交易所你就要有東西啊如果央行推出的話就很多人會下去買啊而且你如果央行趕快推出了以後你再像中東這個事以後就用中華民國央行發行的數字貨幣大家都願意接受啊 |
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報告委員因為新台幣不是一個因為現在有人不接受美金啊那你要現在台幣越來越強啊而且台幣我們現在那個上個月就是出口的部分也成長很多啊表示台灣越來越強啊而且兩岸政習會之後也變得比較感覺和平多啊兩岸只要和平那台灣 |
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那個中華民國發的央行的數字貨幣那一顆可能都會超過比特幣啊趕快發好不好謝謝委員的指示好 現在那個主計 主計處是 委員這個主委長是剛本席講到那個就是齁現在民眾苦哈哈啦你來算一下 |
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如果每一個人來發一萬塊的石油津貼韓國瑜發了發一萬塊的石油津貼大概要準備多少錢就跟現金一樣要簽兩千三百六十兩千三百六十億再一次啦拜託啦 |
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今年要賣多少 今年很多人要賣多少啊我們先從動漲開始動漲如何 這樣就免得再發一些發放的成本你看看喔 上次那個不怕現金一萬塊對整個經濟的發展有了多少的幫助 |
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2360億整個差不多你有乘數效應啊出去那個外面那個我看一些小吃攤啊什麼小朋友那個一點多0.415好了你就0.415再發一次就有0.415啊 |
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努力想一下啦 我現在已經開始在連署了其實目前還沒有人反對的大家都贊成 所以你們要準備一下 2000多也不多嘛是不是很多嗎這個金額會不會很大很大 那個1.25兆大不大 |
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1.25兆是國防它是我們的一個天頓那對我們來講是多重要所以我上次又問那個國防部長我說你不要說1.25兆很重要你講3兆、5兆你如果掛保證我們就叫美國好大賣兆啊給我們保好掉啊所以你說那個天頓1.25兆到底有沒有效 |
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不是 這個要機器來了 用了才知道有沒有笑 這我們現在來講好啦 我要陪過今天來就是那個一萬塊每一個人的石油津貼你那邊也開始同步進行一下因為我們上次發過了這一次發的成本就會很低因為有一次經驗嘛一而再 第二次來的話就會更自在好不好 謝謝謝謝羅秘財委員的質詢 |