| IVOD_ID |
168456 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168456 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-36-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-13T10:46:18+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-13T10:52:45+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:27 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5655ee4938da65e11227cb891ff30bbc306a382356a5b219291cfc8066c9e4d95eb32057a8da52ca5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅智強 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:46:18 - 10:52:45 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：一、併案審查委員賴瑞隆等20人擬具「貪污治罪條例第十二條條文修正草案」案等6案。
二、繼續併案審查委員洪孟楷等21人擬具「中華民國刑法第八十三條條文修正草案」案等29案。
三、併案審查委員黃捷等19人擬具「中華民國刑法施行法增訂第八條之三條文草案」案等16案。
四、併案審查委員王育敏等18人擬具「民法第一百九十七條條文修正草案」案等3案。
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有請法務部馮次長有請馮次長然後刑事廳許廳長許廳長委員好次長 |
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台北市清潔隊員捐殘食32元的電鍋給食荒婦人遭檢方以貪污治罪條例起訴然後士林地方法院判刑三個月去年本席在司法法治委員會質詢我們的政部長的時候我說這是一個缺乏同理心沒有溫度的司法離國民情感太遠給人的感覺是捐鍋者豬 詐騙者猴 |
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好人被懲罰,壞人逍遙法外你知道當時部長怎麼回答我嗎我告訴你,他說此案確實是秦清法重也是高年也有講到秦清法重承諾法務部會提出修法然後其實部長也不只是對本席承諾我幫您回憶一下去年12月3日陳培宇委員質詢的時候 |
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部長說這個案子確實是情輕法重然後法務部已經提出貪污治罪條例第12條修正草案 |
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因為貪污所得在五萬元以下情節輕微修法多一個免除期刑的選項可以讓法官及檢方在處理上能有一個更大的裁量空間我想請問次長部長在去年底的這個宣誓法務部現在還是認同嗎 還是已經改變了我們的那個立場很像一致的還是一樣嘛 對不對好 我給我們次長一個肯定 |
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那我來告訴您 其實部長不只是對陳培鈺委員是這樣回答事實上是對我們的翁小玲委員也是這樣回答對吳宗憲委員也是這樣回答所以這也是法務部非常清楚的立場 |
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也不只是今天部長法務部有這個態度我想請教您知道嗎現在正要參選高雄市長的賴瑞榮委員他也提出了貪污自罪條例的修法版本版本是在新台幣五萬元以下者得減輕期刑至期刑三分之一或免除期刑這與法務部的修法方向也大致一致 |
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效果相同那我接下來想請教一下請問一下我底下說這句話你幫我想想看是誰說的在全民厭惡貪汙期待廉政的同時在野黨正推動修法要讓五萬元以下的貪汙免除刑責請問這句話是誰說的 |
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我告訴你賴清德總統說的我想請問賴清德總統說要修正所謂的五萬元以下貪污免稅行政賴總統你反對我沒有意見啊你不要扣在野黨嘛你正確的說法應該說法務部可務 |
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賴瑞榮可惡當然國民黨也可惡因為提出了這個修法版本針對秦清法眾的狀況五萬元以下的貪污所得今天可以有免除洗刑的選項提出這個意見的不只在野黨啊法務部你也提出這個意見啊民進黨也提出這個意見啊怎麼變成今天在野黨支持貪污反對廉政 |
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法務部你們是賴總統的法律守門人啊賴政府的法律守門人要不要去跟我們賴總統說一下跟委員報告我們是國家的法治守門人非常好非常好國家的法治守門人所以今天我又問你嘛到底是賴總統對還是法務部對我想其實總統對於這個反貪暢聯這個部分是不遺餘力的啦在各種場合上我告訴你 |
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那也跟委員報告 政部長也不遺餘力啦請容許我再多說一句 事實上我們在這幾年 我們的青年印象指數我想那個委員也非常清楚我告訴你 我沒有否定今天法務部反貪處連的努力我只講一個回頭一個最簡單的事情 我也不為難你 你答不出來嘛部長講得清清楚楚 秦清法重 |
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32元電鍋善心捐給石荒老夫竟然被判刑因為貪污職業條例就有不合宜的地方嘛法務部今天才想要提出修法在野黨才要提出修法民進黨才要提出修法大家都知道這不合理 秦清法重唯獨我們的賴總統竟然突然跳出來 |
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挑出來沒關係喔 如果賴總統今天就是非常嚴苛你貪一塊錢你今天只要中一塊錢一樣重罰重判我尊重你的價值判斷但是呢扣給在野黨就沒意思了啦這個是朝野共識啊 在立法院朝野共識啊連行政院 連我們法務部都支持的案子竟然可以扣帽子說是在野黨來縱容貪污 |
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回頭我還是跟法務部期待啦 真的也許我們賴總統對於台灣的現代法治狀況有一些不了解的地方回去告訴我們行政院院長請我們法務部長有機會幫賴總統上個課第一個了解現在是到底是多麼荒謬 |
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多麼荒謬的狀況才會今天有朝野政黨加上法務部都想要提供修法第二個請賴總統學會不要去隨便抹黑別人要抹黑啊連法務部連民進黨連賴瑞榮一起抹黑謝謝您 |