| IVOD_ID |
168451 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168451 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-13T10:25:08+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-13T10:35:41+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:33 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5655ee4938da65e184b55c1a95c3eeb0e63d9eaeca1783e3291cfc8066c9e4d908f75701a873fd4f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
顏寬恒 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:25:08 - 10:35:41 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿、中央銀行、國家發展委員會、經濟部率台灣電力股份有限公司董事長及台灣中油股份有限公司董事長、衛生福利部、法務部就「中東衝突對能源、物價、民生與醫療物資供應及市場秩序之中長期影響與因應檢討，暨因應國際情勢強化經濟社會及民生國安韌性特別預算執行情形」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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請嚴寬衡委員好 謝謝主席各位列席官員大家好主席有請我們經濟部賴長賜還有中油公司方董事長方董事長委員好 |
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中東戰爭原先協議停火但是昨天談判破裂所以再度面臨油價上漲的壓力那我們就從最民生的部分來檢討就是燃燒資金的塑膠袋短缺的問題 |
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讓民眾不堪其擾主要原因就是因為原預料缺貨我們鞏部長上個月才說塑膠袋很好生產非常好生產所以供貨沒有問題結果馬上就爆發塑膠袋之亂這就代表說不夠了解市場雖然我們是希望說民眾能夠減塑減少塑膠但是不是說沒有塑膠袋 |
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所以其實台灣全國各縣市都有非常多的傳統市場市場攤販現在都反應陳情說塑膠袋買不到連像我們路邊的這些早餐店他們都貼公告說不提供塑膠袋要自備 |
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那所以目前請中油跟台塑生產這個量能增加但是還是難以解決短期的這些缺乏還有價格上漲的問題所以這一次是你們預判錯誤導致塑膠量大量缺貨那你們的因應對策是什麼有沒有這個加大力道去稽查是否有業者故意橫排物價還有這個違法囤積的問題 |
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那預計的量能能夠提高 生產的部分能夠提高多少那我是希望說在永格機場這種如果有這些投機行為不管是紅牌物價 還有囤積物的這些部分因為攤販生存很不容易那有些為了要買這個塑膠袋一大早跑了五間店 結果發現說 |
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早上去看他介紹 到下午介紹又差20% 又過兩聲所以說這是一種等於是趁火打劫的行為那所以可不可以請市長先回答一下 |
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就如同剛剛委員講的預期的心理可能會造成產銷秩序的一個失衡但事實上經濟部為了解決這個問題從幾個方面著手第一個原料的穩定的供給中油的擴大的生產下油的加速的媒合我以塑膠袋生產的原料也就是我們做的塑膠力的這個產品以吸為力 |
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乙烯大概一個月需要差不多11.8萬噸但是我們現在所有的國內的生產差不多將近超過16萬噸那遠大於我們這個需求那原料生產跟供應你現在說沒問題可是沒問題為什麼缺貨所以我們要把問題找出來啊紅茶物價囤積啊找到了沒有 |
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所以這個部分由我們透過跨部會的一個聯合的稽查這個部分來執行看看委員有沒有你說的現象但是重點是說當現在民眾有一些的恐慌或是店家有略感不足的話我們經濟部也每天透過電話跟群組的方式針對於所有的商圈所有的市場來去看它的需求性是如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
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到底缺了多少量?缺的量都是一些大家感到庫存不足的部分需要補貨的 |
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那以我們的為例的話比如說我們部長也除了透過我們商發署每天透過群組跟電話關懷之外跟商圈去看事實上以高雄的這個商圈為例的話他的商圈的理事長也有提到說他的一個特殊的這個用品的存量事實上是夠的但是現在沒有不足但是當天的會議有另外嘉義的這個業者來提到說 |
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市長 因為你講到高雄 講到嘉義 講到各縣市那產量是夠的 但是為什麼缺貨所以問題要找出來嘛 所以就囤積嘛這些投機行為 不法行為 你要找出來所以我希望你們趕快去落實啦 好不好趕快去落實 這第一個第二個就是說 這個中東局勢的能源安全問題啦我們這個目前美伊談判破局了嘛所以繼續封鎖這個赫姆茲海峽 |
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因為地緣政治風險溢價攀升所以面對伊朗不願放行的僵局雖然短期內有稍微的雲流供給 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
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那但是因為它這個赫芬茲海峽出口受阻中油在原油進口來源的多樣化上有什麼樣的應變方案那因為你也簽口證實說開戰以來沒有一桶原油來自於中東地區沒有一桶原油從中東地區運送出來那因此目前除了沙烏地美國或者是西非原油進口的比例是否能在第二季快速的挑戰 |
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349.204 |
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可以降低對於中東的依賴可以嗎第一個不是沒有一桶原油從中東進來景上面來講是通過和睦之海峽就和睦之海峽沒有一桶原油從那邊來但是我們透過繞道紅海的方式或是其他的這個區域來補足這一些因為受到和睦之海峽所影響的貨氣跟貨源 |
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372.598 |
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那目前我們的所有不管是現貨未來的排程都有掌握了那至於油價的這個走向事實上我們時時的去觀察我個人我也經常去看油價的變動任何一個國際的情勢或是一個國際的主要的領袖講一句話的話可能對於油價的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
372.978 |
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373.378 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
雖然說比 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
388.334 |
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393.398 |
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市長 如果說海峽封鎖長期沒有什麼樣可以解套的話那7D31這個指標油價往上衝嘛 現在120 130嘛 對不對120 130 那我們國內油價 因為你現在是環漲對不對 環漲嘛 那它下一季 或者更 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
413.248 |
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420.534 |
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到年底當然年底又牽扯到剛剛也有人提到其他有人提到說1月28號要選舉了油價不會漲肯定不會漲怕影響選舉但是我們什麼時候會面臨這個 |
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427.301 |
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跳躍式的調生這第一個第二個就是說他那邊伊朗有拋出一個計畫說要對於海峽的遊輪每桶徵收一美元的通行費就是通行費並要求要以加密貨幣來支付那 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
448.755 |
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465.565 |
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我國是我國油價採取7D3V的公司計算那請問這額外的1美元的通行費是被歸類於我們的原油採購成本還是中油的營運成本那如果是原油採購成本就代表說即便 |
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466.545 |
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原有的價格波動但是這屬於只要通行費存在通行費存在那國內的油價就無法調降嘛這又是另外一個無法不可預測的嘛是不是這樣子跟委員報告在戰事之前那國際的油價差不多每桶80塊左右最高來到122那你剛剛講的其實未來包括上個禮拜上個禮拜情勢稍微和緩馬上降到94那今天 |
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那是差不多一百零二不管是布蘭特跟這個這個杜拜都是差不多是這個價格所以我們緊密的去關注啊國際的這個市場的一個報價的狀況那除此之外的話我們還是維持我們雙平穩的機制那至於你剛剛講的所謂的通行費的部分我們既然我們現在啊不需要從河本塵海峽沒有開放之前我們從其他的貨源來調貨自然沒有這個問題 |
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伊朗更要求說要以加密貨幣的部分來做這樣子的支付我是說他拋出這樣子的說法如果說中友為了支付通行費未來我們必須要承受這樣子的一個情況因為加密貨幣的漲跌劇烈 難以估計這一筆金融風險就產生了額外的負擔 |
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554.759 |
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那這些負擔又是被我們國人必須要轉嫁到國內所以我們是否未來有能力去應付到這種高度不穩定的支付成本這是第一個第一個就是說 |
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中友必須要針對未來加密貨幣通行費的方式去建立嚴謹的財務避險機制現在沒發生嗎未來不見得會發生嗎現在沒有 |
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行政已經專案的核准了油品的貨物稅50%就是做這個因應那除此之外的話其實中油公司對於未來的採購的策略包括現在油品的這個價格都是密切的在緊盯那我們緊遵了我們現在的雙平穩的機制包括亞林最低價我們是希望把這個油的這個價格包括天然氣的價格 |
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然後控制在不會造成我們國內經濟重大的影響的這個層面上面所以說我們一定要建立嚴謹的財務避險機制確保國內油價確保國內油價能夠確實反映國際情勢的一個緩解還有合理的回落啦好不好好 謝謝委員長 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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謝謝主席，各位列席官員，大家好。 |
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1 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-04-13T10:25:22.045000+08:00 |
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主席，有請經濟部賴常次還有中油公司方董事長。 |
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0.9 |
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主席 |
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2026-04-13T10:25:22.045000+08:00 |
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2026-04-13T10:25:22.445000+08:00 |
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賴常次、方董事長，謝謝。 |
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0.444 |
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賴次長建信 |
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委員好。 |
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1 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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1 |
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賴常次好，還有方董事長。 |
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0 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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中東戰爭原先協議停火，但是昨天談判破裂，所以再度面臨油價上漲的壓力。 |
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1 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-04-13T10:25:44.106000+08:00 |
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我們就從最民生的部分來檢討。 |
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1 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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關於延燒至今的塑膠袋短缺問題，讓民眾不堪其擾，主要原因就是因為原物料缺貨。 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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龔部長上個月才說塑膠袋很好生產，所以供貨沒有問題，結果馬上就爆發塑膠袋之亂，這就代表不夠了解市場。 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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雖然我們希望民眾能夠減塑、減少塑膠，但不是沒有塑膠袋，臺灣全國各縣市都有非常多的傳統市場，市場攤販現在都反映、陳情說塑膠袋買不到，像這些路邊的早餐店都貼公告不提供塑膠袋、要自備。 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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目前請中油跟台塑生產量能增加，但是還是難以解決短期的缺乏還有價格上漲問題，所以這一次是你們預判錯誤，導致塑膠大量缺貨，那你們的因應對策是什麼？ |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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|
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有沒有加大力道去稽查是否有業者故意哄抬物價、違法囤積的問題？ |
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0.929 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-04-13T10:27:01.863000+08:00 |
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預計能夠提高多少生產量能？ |
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0.667 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-04-13T10:27:02.423000+08:00 |
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我希望嚴格稽查這種這些投機行為，不管是哄抬物價還有囤積的部分，因為攤販生存很不容易，有些為了要買塑膠袋，一大早跑了5間店，結果發現早上去看的價錢跟下午的價錢又差20%、又貴兩成，這等於是趁火打劫的行為，可不可以請次長先回答一下？ |
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賴次長建信 |
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2026-04-13T10:27:30.883000+08:00 |
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2026-04-13T10:27:49.256000+08:00 |
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如同剛剛委員講的，預期心理可能會造成產銷次序的失衡，事實上，經濟部為了解決這個問題從幾個方面著手，第一個，原料穩定供給、中油擴大生產、下游加速媒合。 |
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賴次長建信 |
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我以塑膠袋生產的原料，也就是我們做的塑膠粒產品乙烯為例，乙烯1個月差不多需要11.8萬噸，但是我們現在所有國內的生產超過16萬噸，遠大於我們的需求…… |
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0.873 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-04-13T10:28:10.854000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-04-13T10:28:15.718000+08:00 |
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關於原料、生產跟供應，你現在說沒問題，可是沒問題為什麼會缺貨？ |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-04-13T10:28:15.718000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-04-13T10:28:19.742000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
所以我們要把問題找出來，哄抬物價、囤積啊，找到了沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.913 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-04-13T10:28:20.922000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-04-13T10:28:46.891000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
這個部分我們透過跨部會的聯合稽查來執行，看看有沒有委員所說的現象，但重點是，當現在民眾有一些恐慌或是店家略感不足的話，我們經濟部也每天透過電話跟群組的方式，針對於所有商圈、所有市場來去看看它的需求性是如何，然後…… |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-04-13T10:28:46.891000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-04-13T10:28:47.891000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
有沒有得到真實的數據，是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-04-13T10:28:47.651000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-04-13T10:28:47.911000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
到底缺了多少量？ |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-04-13T10:28:47.951000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-04-13T10:28:48.912000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
基本上，缺的量都是一些大家感到庫存不足的部分、需要補貨的。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.885 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-04-13T10:29:01.535000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-04-13T10:29:11.462000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
以我們為例，比如我們部長除了由商發署每天透過群組跟電話關懷之外，也到商圈去看。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-13T10:29:12.983000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-04-13T10:29:27.012000+08:00 |
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以高雄的商圈為例，商圈理事長也提到，他的特殊用品存量事實上是夠的，現在沒有不足，但是當天會議有另外的嘉義業者提到…… |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.981 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-04-13T10:29:28.893000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-04-13T10:29:34.415000+08:00 |
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次長，你講到高雄、講到嘉義、講到各縣市，既然產量是夠的，那為什麼缺貨？ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.862 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-04-13T10:29:34.755000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-04-13T10:29:36.615000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
問題要找出來，就是囤積嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-13T10:29:38.176000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-04-13T10:29:42.837000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
這些投機行為、不法行為你要找出來，所以我希望你們趕快去落實，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-04-13T10:29:42.937000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-04-13T10:29:44.357000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
趕快去落實，這是第一個。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-13T10:29:44.357000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-04-13T10:30:15.679000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
第二個，中東局勢的能源安全問題，目前美伊談判破局了，所以繼續封鎖荷姆茲海峽，因為地緣政治風險，油價攀升，面對伊朗不願放行的僵局，雖然短期內有沙烏地的原油供給，但是因為荷姆茲海峽的出口受阻，中油在原油進口來源的多樣化上，有什麼樣的應變方案？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.907 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-13T10:30:16.379000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-04-13T10:30:32.886000+08:00 |
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因為你也親口證實說開戰以來，沒有一桶原油來自於中東地區、沒有一桶原油從中東地區運送出來，因此目前除了沙烏地，美國或者是西非原油進口的比例是否能在第二季快速的調整？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.961 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-13T10:30:33.746000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-04-13T10:30:37.889000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
可以降低對於中東的依賴，可以嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-13T10:30:37.889000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-04-13T10:30:44.875000+08:00 |
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第一個，不是沒有一桶原油從中東進來，嚴謹來講，是通過荷姆茲海峽。 |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.821 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-13T10:30:44.875000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-04-13T10:30:46.296000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
就荷姆茲海峽嘛？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.429 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-13T10:30:46.296000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-13T10:30:47.437000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
沒有一桶原來是從那邊來。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-13T10:30:47.437000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-13T10:31:21.358000+08:00 |
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對，但是我們透過繞道紅海的方式或是其他的區域，來補足這一些因為受到荷姆茲海峽所影響的貨氣跟貨源，目前我們所有的不管是現貨，未來的排程都有掌握了，至於油價的走向，事實上我們時時的去觀察，我個人也經常去看油價的變動，任何一個國際的情勢或是國際主要領袖講一句話的話，對於油價的漲跌都有很大的影響，但是我們對於油價的部分，我們有特定的一個機制，即亞鄰最低價專案緩漲的這個機制，所以我們目前的油價雖然比戰前還稍微高，但是相對於亞洲鄰近的國家，我們還是相對低的。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.603 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-13T10:31:36.554000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-13T10:31:39.256000+08:00 |
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次長，如果海峽封鎖長期沒有什麼可以解套的話，7D3B這個指標顯示油價往上衝，現在是120、130對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.872 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-13T10:31:39.416000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-13T10:31:40.617000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
我們國內油價因為你現在是緩漲，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-13T10:31:40.617000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-13T10:32:16.222000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
緩漲嘛，那下一季或者是到年底，當然年底又牽扯到……剛剛也有其他委員提到1128要選舉了，油價不會漲，肯定不會漲，因為怕影響選舉，但是我們什麼時候會面臨跳躍式的調升？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.87 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-13T10:32:17.283000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-13T10:32:18.083000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
這是第一個。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-13T10:32:18.083000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-04-13T10:32:50.703000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
第二個，伊朗有拋出一個計畫，說對於經過海峽的油輪，每桶要徵收1美元的通行費，並要求要以加密貨幣來支付，我國油價採取7D3B的計算公式，請問這額外的1美元通行費，是被歸類為我們的原油採購成本還是中油的營運成本？ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.913 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-13T10:32:51.323000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-04-13T10:33:03.848000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
如果是原油採購成本，就代表即便原油的價格波動，但是這屬於……只要通行費存在，國內的油價就無法調降嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-13T10:33:04.809000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-04-13T10:33:07.289000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
這又是另外一個不可預測的，是不是這樣子？ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-13T10:33:07.810000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-04-13T10:33:49.471000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
跟委員報告，在戰事之前，國際油價差不多在每桶80塊左右，最高來到122，你剛剛講的，其實未來……包括上禮拜，上禮拜情勢稍微和緩，馬上降到94，今天差不多102，不管是布蘭特跟杜拜，差不多都是這個價格，所以我們會緊密的去關注國際市場報價的狀況，除此之外，我們還是維持我們雙平穩的機制，至於你剛剛講的通行費的部分，既然我們現在不需要從……荷姆茲海峽沒有開放之前，我們從其他的貨源來調貨，自然沒有這個問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-13T10:33:53.239000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-04-13T10:33:59.404000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
伊朗更要求說要以加密貨幣來支付…… |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-13T10:33:59.404000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-13T10:34:00.404000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
我們沒有跟伊朗買…… |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-13T10:34:00.164000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-04-13T10:34:33.681000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
我是說他拋出這樣子的說法，如果中油為了支付通行費，未來我們必須要承受這樣子的情況，因為加密貨幣的漲跌劇烈，難以估計，這一筆金融風險就會產生額外的負擔，這些負擔又必須要轉嫁到國內的國人，所以我們未來是否有能力去應付這種高度不穩定的支付成本，這第一個。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-13T10:34:33.681000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-04-13T10:34:44.178000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
第二個，未來如果採用加密貨幣支付通行費的方式，中油必須要去建立一個嚴謹的財務避險機制，現在還沒發生嘛，是不是這樣子？ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.585 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-13T10:34:44.258000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-04-13T10:34:44.559000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
未來不見得會發生嘛？ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-13T10:34:44.559000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-04-13T10:34:45.559000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
現在沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-04-13T10:34:44.599000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-04-13T10:34:44.699000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
對嘛，現在沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-04-13T10:34:55.868000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-04-13T10:35:27.934000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
行政院已經專案核准減徵油品的貨物稅50%，就是要來做這個因應，除此之外，其實中油公司對於未來的採購策略，包括現在油品的價格都有密切在緊盯，我們緊遵現在雙平穩的機制，包括亞鄰最低價，我們希望把油的價格包括天然氣的價格，控制在不會造成國內經濟重大影響的層面上。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.94 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-04-13T10:35:28.295000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-04-13T10:35:33.538000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
所以我們一定要建立嚴謹的財務避險機制，確保國內油價能夠確實反映國際情勢的緩解還有合理的回落，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-04-13T10:35:33.578000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-04-13T10:35:33.658000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
好，謝謝委員的指導。謝謝。 |
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0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-04-13T10:35:34.158000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-04-13T10:35:37.586571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
感謝顏寬恒準時的質詢結束。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-04-13T10:35:37.886571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-04-13T10:35:40.458000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
接下來請賴惠員委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0 |