| IVOD_ID |
168418 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168418 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-26-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-09T12:36:05+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-09T12:58:36+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:22:31 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fe6424cd58e46bc792a4992c46c6cb350a49e36d97d29c5f375d34fcdf2683b9fc2af0c2ea075b345ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
劉建國 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:36:05 - 12:58:36 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請勞動部部長、經濟部、農業部就「防制強迫勞動與公平招募：台灣移工制度接軌國際人權與供應鏈治理」進行專題報告，並備質詢。【4月8日及9日二天一次會】） |
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好謝謝主席有請部長有請洪部長好六人好部長好我們一起恭迎王正希委員好謝謝王委員好 |
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大家有默契,希望把洪部長留在委員會一起共用午餐部長,立法院最關注EAP的是哪一個委員你知道嗎?劉憲國委員謝謝最關心EAP的制度落實應該是哪一個政府單位? |
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嗯 勞動部應該是很重要的是貴部啦 對不對那請問部長你們諮問有做到嗎也可以請委員再提供給我們更多就是說哪些地方改善你不正面回應我的問題沒關係我們就一項一項來希望等一下你午餐可以用得很順暢 |
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員工協助方案就是要照顧勞工方方面面然後協助各種問題其中是這個身心諮詢壓力排除最為關鍵那今天我要感謝那個召委啦他那個人已經走了也都感謝了謝謝王貞興委員 |
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來防制強迫勞動與公平招募那台灣的移工制度接軌國際人權與供應鏈的這個治理的專報但是這個南東部對移工的身心健康有照顧到嗎 |
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我先給部長看一則報導那是報導者他們的這個整個描述為何痛苦的有近七成的醫工陷入失語的壓力然後這個身體健康亮起紅燈怎麼還沒跳出來來 |
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部長可以看一下啦我對報道者的相關的一些報道一直以來都是非常重視因為他們這些記者基本上都是非常的深入也非常用心這邊當然想講這樣因為語言文化的先天革命當然也移工在底台工作初期因語言與適應新環境而累積的這個情緒都曾讓他們體驗過失語的滋味那無論可訴說煩惱與來自雇主的壓力 |
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常成為壓垮移工的稻草在過去三十餘年間不少漢氏病由失語延伸也根據立憲基金會移住者服務中心的調查近七成移工處於壓力環境台大醫學院的多名精神科醫師也研究發現超過四成以上看護工有睡眠的困擾然後進一步影響到心理的健康 |
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不能知道這些報道嗎?有有嗎?那再根據這個利新基金會在2022年3年多前對531名的這個移工發起移工勞動現況及心理健康調查那處於壓力環境的高達67.4%及高壓力的已經來到14.3% |
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這個需要專業的人員的諮商或協助500多名的這個人的樣本 |
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呈現出這樣的結果是非常驚人的然後又以看護工遭遇情緒困擾的比例高於這個產業移工那其實也不能想像看護工必須二、四個小時然後陪伴在照顧者身旁同時同住那一般家屬都受不了的情況之下慌亂我們的這個移工面對這樣的困境他要如何尋求這個求助 |
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那再請部長看一看這一張投影片這是勞花署勞花署在這個外國人勞動權利網上提供的相關的資訊不只這個中文版更翻譯成英文、印尼文、泰文、越南文四種這個外文版的這樣的一個版本不然你知道這一張圖有什麼樣的問題嗎 |
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看起來是幾個國家的語言都有在上面除此之外還有嗎那其實我認為我們其實因為如果移工打1955可是1955要直接接到相關EAP |
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的系統的話其實這個語言的協助其實可能還是會有一些阻礙好會長講到講那部分1925是安心的專線生命線是1955所以不想讓只有他這個1955那張老師是1980 |
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如果如須同意服務可洽1955專線來尋求協助就是部長剛剛所講的嘛我幫部長打了啦 也電話求證過了這個生命線的1995是1995還是19551955對嘛1955張老師的1980都沒有對應移工的專門服務 |
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若要諮詢醫工仍然需要用中文跟對接人對談至於衛護部的1925僅在上班時間提供英語服務 |
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所以1955到底是什麼電話義工專線嗎義工如果他有他權益上面的問題的話他打1955可以得到這個語言上面的協助可是的確像委員說的包括生命線的1995或者是張老師的1980那對於目前義工比較熟悉的這些東南亞國家的語言其實可能的確是還是需要多一點的協助還是需要多一點協助嗎所以顯然部長你知道問題之所在嗎是 |
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我們30多年了怎麼還會這個樣子?跟文說明我們接下來會想要請這個我有請發言署針對其實漁工在台灣可能會在各種需要語言協助的情境都希望做一輪的盤點跟整體的檢討那現在委員在講的可能是對他的心理 |
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諮詢或者是心理上面需要專業需要的部分這當然會是其中一個情境那我們接下來也有想要找包括台灣的這個雇主也包括NGO包括各個其實相關的方向團體希望能夠來盤點大家需要語言的情境那可能各種不同語言的情境他需要各種不同的方案有些是需要人有些部分他是需要一些 |
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界面的翻譯的資源其實都可能所以我們接下來想要針對這個語言移工的語言的需求的部分做一個整體性的檢討那這部分當然委員現在提到的部分應該也是要是我們在裡面檢討的其中之一部長我們引進這個外籍的看護工已經30多年是那這張圖法又是我們勞動部勞化署製作的嘛是對不對好那我們今天的主題叫做臺灣移工制度接軌國際人權嘛我們連 |
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連一個基本上的一個諮商 心理上的協助都這麼樣的卡卡 簡單講叫卡卡然後30多年來就是如此我們如果要再請生命線 詹老師外匯部的1925的提供協助就提出支援 進行相關的合作 |
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可能還要一段時間的磨合對不對現在其實有三方同意的服務但是在三方同意的服務在哪邊要打哪一支電話報告委員如果是打1955的話我們也可以幫他再接接到這個1995或者是1925或者是1925要間接嘛對對對要間接嘛他必須再打過來我們1955那我們就可以三方通話那署長你有自己打過嗎我沒有打過那你要不要試看看 |
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如果間接?是斷接還是間接?還是不接?還是借斷?你不要急著幫署長回應啦我是想說因為署長剛上任沒多久啦我們把問題挑出來好好的面對來做處理啦所以當你要答覆的時候應該你要相當有把握的這是一個非常可以間接的順暢的應該沒有什麼多大的問題 |
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那你可以很胸口清楚地回答我回答我說這個已經做一段時間基本上當然還有微調還是修正的空間不過應該是順暢的啦但是你們答不出來啊對不對你們答不出來啊 |
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我就剛剛跟你講說我已經幫你們打過了我想今天是這樣啦我不是要去吐槽你們不過如果今天到現在這相關的專線都還有存在這樣的問題而且你們知道問題之所在然後一直到現在沒辦法處理那今天開這個會的主題我覺得就有一點 |
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所以我是希望這樣提出資源進行合作然後跟衛福部跟生命線那義工如果需要輔導直接打1995、1955、1980的專線不然你這個海報做這樣、圖卡做這樣叫人家打電話去結果人家根本沒有辦法去提供義工母語的服務然後我覺得這樣就是很不好外籍義工他屬於在生命垂尾的邊緣 |
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生命的垂尾冰眼那發生的這樣狀況我們有沒有做過相關的這些統計我想沒有啦那你這個專線的存在的實質的意義我是覺得 |
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我們也新部長 也新署長了要不要好好解釋就只有這些專線 針對這些專線我們可以來檢討他整個這個通譯服務的接通跟接軌的機制這部分我們也來檢討這個事情好 那是不是可以應該是兩個禮拜就可以把這樣的檢討提出來給我們做參考為什麼一個月一個月啦 還有一些相關修正然後可以實質上的一些真正的對接 間接 轉接都可以 |
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我也請部長道維斯講EAP不應該只有專屬大公司 |
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大企業的福利我們現在是總預算各部會都還沒有審這個到時候我們也會針對各大的部會還有相關的三級機關都好好再檢視EAP的一個執行狀況所以對民間來講不管是大公司還是大企業的福利唯一小企業辦公室小店家甚至像家庭康復工身處在這些職場的勞工他們也需要EAP勞動部應該如何來做這樣的一個整員同整資源然後提供一個全國性的勞工都可以使用EAP |
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我想這個是絕對是一個福國利民的政策請部長能不能帶回細心的研究我們就一併來講一樣一個月好不好可以嗎可以啦再來部長再看第二題移工之前的這樣的一個教育訓練86%投入3K產業民團開課判降低自災風險我們治安法也已經通過 |
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怎麼會有現在還會有這樣積極的想要做這樣的一個訴求這雖然看是113年我昨天還接到某個大學還有產業界的重要的一些人士來對我提出這樣的一個現狀其實他們 |
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因應期盼的要降低整個這個外籍移工不管是中階不管是高階的這些專責技術的人員希望在台灣的職場上可以得到更多更好的保障這個之前的教育就是相對的重要到現在為止昨天不知道怎麼看待這個事情 |
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第一個跟委員說明其實現在在職災比例比較高的還是在營造業營造業現在移工是有開放的確我們在現在的整體的減災的計畫裡面其實也針對營造業在討論那因為其實有很多安全防護的資訊其實 |
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營造業的現場不一定都有提供這些移工母國的版本所以怎麼在這些資訊的提供包括可能現場的機具的使用或者是一些危害的市井上其實也要有讓移工可以了解資訊的部分這部分我們要來做那另外一方面其實在針對營造業的減災的部分我們其實也會針對這個治安卡的部分 |
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來去擴大推動那在治安卡的部分裡面其中也有部分會是針對移工那尤其移工的話有各項的語言那在我們去年底公布的減災計畫裡面接下來治安卡要更大幅度的由政府這邊來去協助來去推動那這部分我們當然也有跟營造業這邊來去討論會推動的機制那其中移工的部分的持災就會是裡面一個其中很重要的環節 |
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這個我們什麼時候開始做這樣的一個更積極的一個因應今年開始今年開始今年第一劑剛過對不對那你們有沒有對照這個報導是2024啊那2025的出來有沒有我給部長跟署長講一個數據嘛2024的移工職災幾戶就有1532件 |
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這幾個案件裡面其中夾傷、切傷、割傷就有1,069件佔整體的69.7%是移工最主要的職業災害項目其實是墜落、跌倒等撞擊傷害佔比有14%被物品飛落、倒塌、壓傷7.3%燒讓傷或是接觸到有害物質等環境傷害7.5%署長能不能直接跟部長跟委員會講說2025已經顯著下降 |
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哪幾個項目減少了幾%有沒有把握2025的資料目前看起來勞保局目前還在統計中但是我跟文說的時候因為我剛剛在講的是我們其實去年下半年有發布一個強化減災的計畫這個強化減災計畫裡面其實有27項的要去做的工作其中有一個部分就是資安卡的擴大那資安卡擴大裡面其實就是希望能夠更多的把移工給納進來那這個部分的工作會是今年擴大開始做 |
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就是應該是之前就有職安卡的制度可是我們希望現在政府的部分要在職安卡的推動裡面要承擔起一個更大的責任這是從今年開始 |
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陳昌喜更大的責任不應該是從今年開始的,是應該早早就會開始的我只是想說用2025來對照2024其實很多事情我們就可以顯得來了解說問題到底應該怎麼去再做一些調整跟修正啦我是提醒這個嘛,你看連民主黨都認為不行啊 |
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希望趕快這樣開這個職災的相關的課程降低職災的風險嘛我不曉得我們的班是越開越多還是越開越少如果你的班越開越少那你進來的人這個人是越來越多那你跟我講說你2026年足以得以在這個職災的幾戶項目可以去降低下來 |
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那顯然之前在委員會討論過的然後你們對委員會做的承諾基本上是很難達成這樣的目標 |
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跟委員報告 確實我們整個子彈卡的目標在往上提升今年希望達到 拿到子彈卡達到30萬人那目前移工取得這個子彈卡是將近1萬人 9000多人我們今年會設一個目標讓移工 更多的移工取得這個子彈卡的訓練子彈卡處理是一件事情嘛 對那剛剛我特別提到嘛 如果說你們在很多學校開的班期的數額是越來越少 |
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會不會有相對的我們現在希望能夠讓職安卡可以被適用跟來參與職安卡訓練的人這個人數可以再增加所以相關的這個訓練的資源或者是課程的資源也是必然一定會增加的那不然你可以簡單答我就以2026年對照2025年你們是增加幾%以上 |
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跟委員報告喔委員如果是針對移工的這個教育訓練的部分其實移工本身目前在從事像堆高機或是起重機的一些吊掛他這個班次是不斷在增加因為產業有需求的話我們的這個班次就會在增加不是啊 市長你要答覆我應該是用比較精準的說我嘛一直在增加 不斷的增加今年對照2025是增加幾% |
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2025年對照2024年增加幾%你的不斷增加是每年增加一般每年增加訓練的40個人那也叫做增加 那也叫不斷增加第一個跟委員說明齁這個部分我想我們相關的課程課程數一定會增加那我會請 |
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我們責任署那尤其是因為針對移工的部分可能要特別顧及他的語言的需求這部分我們要來規劃這個一樣是增加的能量來去處理這個問題因為的確我們現在看到在尤其是在營造你到現在沒辦法回答我說你們如何增加嘛人增加的那個設定的目標你們都不清不楚嘛那你怎麼有辦法打呼我說你們主人在增加持續的在增加不斷的在增加你們的增加是在心理增加心理建設增加你們個人的增加 |
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而不是實際上你們在處理的這個政策上的一個真正的班級數增加 師資增加然後來參與的 雇主願意投入 鼓勵我們這些勞工來參與這樣的一個課程還是政府去鼓勵都可以看到顯著增加的數額 |
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你答覆我應該是這個樣子才對啊你就連這個沒辦法沒辦法給我答不對啊那顯然你現在是在某個角度是在虛隱了視對我是算是不好的這樣的回應我不好意思講說你在欺騙我我講這樣不曉得是傷到你還是傷到我 |
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我就用2026來對照2025對照2024你們增加怎麼樣的一個看你要用什麼統計數據來回應我啊來回應這一則的報導啊來回應民團判開課可以降低自災風險啊我只要求一個數據嘛你最起碼數據給我嘛 |
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跟委員報告,如果以剛剛講的資產卡訓練,我們今年達到30萬那去年呢?今年就達到30萬?不不不,今年度不要達到30萬,明年要到40萬然後我們三年內要達到50萬好,這是資產卡的部分,資產卡的部分就30萬、40萬、50萬,那這個之前沒有嘛,對不對? |
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之前的這個剛剛部長有提到我們之前辦的這個規模沒那麼大所以我們現在把他設目標就是我們過去幾年是沒有這麼大啦我知道你沒有這麼大的時候當時是多少嘛大概在去年大概22萬而已22萬所以你今年希望多增加8萬增加8萬嘛那再來每年再增加10萬嘛對3年到50萬那這個增加也不算是很 |
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怎麼講就每年等於是增加30%是這樣其實按照這個增加幅度的話其實基本上是三年要翻倍要是現在的翻倍那我資安卡的制度其實其實已經蠻長的時間所以等於是在接下來三年的推動裡面要是過去長時間可能目前才累積到大概22萬在三年內就希望把這個數字給翻倍 |
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好 這部長講的嘛我想教育部提供學校施肢嘛勞動部提供獎勵誘因鼓勵仲介雇主引入義工錢先送去學校進行相關的培訓課程嘛然後透過這個課程義工部長會學習到未來這個整個職場上需要的職能同時也更有完整的這樣的一個職安的一個觀念嘛那降低這個職災的一個風險我想這是一個三明的一個政策啊 |
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這沒有錯吧? |
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| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
所以剛剛部長答覆我的還有部長答覆我的相關的這個數據是不是提供給委員會那我們再來檢視我們把資安卡希望能夠提高的這個逐年目標的數據我們可以提供給委員會好那如果現在已經有相關的學校都想要積極來配合應該我們勞動部跟教育部這邊勞動部應該可以主動來做好這樣的一個聯繫甚至於相關的一些建制應該可以吧 |
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我們其實主要現在應該會是要跟產業界包括跟營造業界來做合作那當然有更多其他部會運起來也是好事但主要我們會是跟產業的目前產業的工協會來合作我請市長補助就責成我們這個勞工署一個月內就召集一個禮拜一個月內就召集勞動部還有教育部相關的來進行這個相關政策來處理好不好可以吧 |
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那個跟委員說明第一個因為涉及到移工的職安目前還是由職安署這邊來處理那我們會請職安署來找發展署那跟其他可能需要的部會跟財產團一起來做討論是就一個禮拜內可以啦 |
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| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
1345.229 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
兩個禮拜好不好?兩個禮拜?因為署長說可以,你為什麼一直要幫他?他就說一個月啦!他說一個月,我說兩個禮拜啦!署長講一個月,部長講兩個禮拜這顯然部長跟署長之間有某種程度的不太有默契有可能需要業批一下兩禮拜啦!不斷在說啦!謝謝!謝謝林政府委員的發言,也謝謝 |