| IVOD_ID |
168335 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168335 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-09T09:54:14+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-09T10:05:38+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:24 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fe6424cd58e46bc716e0e620613cbd75b509ad0e4ca3d8668ce3249aa741ed4126f20e6437c5d88a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王美惠 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:54:14 - 10:05:38 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部部長、國土管理署署長、交通部次長就「加速落實人本交通環境-檢討『永續提升人行安全計畫』執行現況、簡化審核行政流程及協助地方政府改善行人安全設施之精進作為」進行專題報告並備質詢。） |
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主席,我們這裡補充好,麻煩部長來,委員你好補充,大家說平安健康是最重要的在這個平安當中,大家都有忙出門上班也好,要去買東西也好 |
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可以很平順的所以在中央有提出永續提升行人安全的價位的轉押剛才本市有聽很多我們的董事跟你們談透過這個錢 |
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重金要到400億,在400億的當中,就是地方有發生問題,覺得要改善,跟地方提出結尾,來讓他們有辦法適當,這裡的步驟, |
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一定會,是不是這樣,補充你回答一下是,感謝委員非常關心基本上就是要管治政府,補起來之後,我們來審查審查之後,通常都是會核定但是地方政府要補起來,我們也要替他提供有時候,酒瓶的人,大家都有不同的意見 |
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所以為什麼會比較慢 雖然工廠的改善 工廠的技術沒有那麼困難但是主要是人的溝通 剛才大家都說了要不然這麼好的界位 坦白說 我們對方包括里長或是管理員 絕對一堆提案上來為什麼沒有 不是管理政府不夠打拚 |
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是因為地方上的協調跟交通絕對是要有共識如果有共識,這經濟要下去已經都很快了所以要把委員講的部分應該是比較大的難題是這個地方啦,要拜託民意代表要報三天你講的話,重點就在這裡啦 |
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有個好個結尾,要不然北省就留他,覺得說,跟你要做人性道,跟我們家外面本來就都很丟臉,跟你沒帶沒錢,要去中央請人家來做跟我們家一個人要放摩托車也不行,要放威卡也不行 |
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這就是立法會的難處在這裡啦所以立法會都會認為說,你不要做就好了因為本身是怎麼來的呢?因為這裡的經費重金要到400億就是有地方政府,他有覺得說我建一地方要改善的年薪度來提出界外來領中央 |
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協定和可以有經緯也有可能說因為我們的交通部發現到每一個地方他們都有這個交通的問題、連線道的問題、外線車號的問題主動補助地方政府部來補充立委答謝 |
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我跟委員報告,我們現在都做三個計劃,一個就是永續提升人行安全計劃,一個叫做提升道路品質計劃,一個叫做生活圈道路交通系統計劃,這是市區道路啦,有一個計劃啦,在我們加以持家,一個是5.64億,一個是7.67億,一個是6.92億, |
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不聽 我也代表嘉義市跟嘉義市政府感謝你們對嘉義市的保重因為嘉義市政府 包括北省 包括里長 嘉義縣都很認真很發表 都可以說 |
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建築我們中央的經費,回去建設交通,跟營運就更好現在我告訴你就是說,我這樣看我的資料看,我的僱傭有的改善,又不是在治安委報的裡面我自己的僱傭,很好,最好沒有減少,沒錯嗎? |
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大安匯報啦是不是請主席回答這不是只有硬體改善就可以處理啊包括軟體改善也有啊 |
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我的意思就是說,是不是正好認真,中央好這個錢,是不是要怎麼改善,還要好我是不是請高通部的處長,跟你回答一下好不好好來好啊,委員報告一下市長,你有看到這個,你會怕嗎?高利貸是一個非常小的社區喔,你知道 |
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六萬人的交通雖然台北我們大家都騎摩托車那麼多但是交通的安全對電運是非常重要何況你用這個經費來改善的時候你看有80年、11年、12年、13年、14年哇 委員報告齁 我們有看到這個現象啦你有沒有騎一條 |
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人數的增加對我們來說都是很... |
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很心疼 沒辦法接受所以這個數目的增加我們不是把它看成是一個數字而已 冰冷的數字是覺得很沉痛所以我們歷次 尤其最近大概都有跟嘉義市政府相關的交通單位或警察單位大家討論如何來降低那當然這個情勢還在還沒 要怎麼做 |
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幾個面向嘛 工程的面向當然要來看相關的改善另外一個執法面也是很重要警察的執法最後一個就是要多多的宣導那這部分我們會跟嘉義市相關的單位來找看他到底是什麼地方有問題來共同來解決因為說實在你看到這個掃利的時候我認為應該是 |
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沒有這麼嚴重,我看的時候,我會覺得說,我的資料是不是不對?我會想這樣 |
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想說跟我們有改善跟我們市政府也有認真發表來補充你要補充是不是請市長再跟您報告一下因為我們領域假期期的市區的道路設計可能有一些重放這是要很大的改善另外也要跟委員 委員非常關心這也包括假期期可能人來人往的觀光客也很多所以出現這麼多的交通事故其他的補充我請市長跟您做一個補充好啦 |
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市長來 |
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所以我們會給嘉義市政府一個建議就是說那個全市的一些路口,包含一些道路比較寬的地方可能要做整體的檢討因為署長跟部長本事在這,覺得我們是要解決問題不是要去求求說市政府做得不好或什麼因為我的雇傭,我的家族,我希望交通會更安全好 |
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因為每一個民運代表都有這個責任,要如何去共享,要交通更好所以我希望我們的手機也好,手機也好,交通也好可以提出你們的專業,如果有力氣,都有三天,因為我覺得 |
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在這裡,相信每一個立委都沒有分什麼擋牌只是他請主、他自己去,會溝通、會更安全、更好當然是在你未來的時候,我們請的訴訟,會正經整頓到自己去 |
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當然要改善不是一天兩天的,但是我希望在中央的專業,可以下放到地方的政府,這樣你們改善的錢,夠有意義啦 |
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因為在這兩年的時候,我們如果看到寶座好,還是出去那裡看好因為看到車禍的時候,像庇護島,有的開車的時候,有四個門 |
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他自己開了,覺得這世界一樣,你看這是新聞,這是比較有意義的事情,這是開車的問題,還是我們社會的問題,這也很要緊,因為每一項改變的結尾,就是買車走路也好,開車也好,騎摩托車也好,大家都要硬頂, |
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小心,在這個過程,我認為有需要,我們的單位在此去配合地方政府,剛才我來補充說的,跟你們這400億的經費,是你們主動給地方,還是地方要請出,補充的回答就是,地方有各種問題,要幾位,幾位才有辦法請出這些錢, |
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所以我們也多多對自己的關心和協助因為我覺得在這段時間這七分鐘要去探討這些問題探討不了,但是事後的時候 |
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本席會再教你來探討一下未來要改善更好,尤其我們的學校、旁邊的年輕人,我相信教育區有幾間都改善了很好,要不然還需要,很好,還要更好,以上 |
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主席，我請部長。 |
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麻煩部長。 |
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劉部長世芳 |
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委員你好。 |
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1 |
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王委員美惠 |
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2026-04-09T09:54:19.098000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-09T09:54:20.098000+08:00 |
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部長早安。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
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2026-04-09T09:54:19.138000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T09:54:53.402000+08:00 |
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部長，大家都說平安健康是最重要的，在這個平安當中，大家不管是出門上班還是去買東西都希望路是很平順的，所以中央有提出「永續提升人行安全計畫」的專案。 |
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0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
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2026-04-09T09:54:55.323000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T09:55:27.108000+08:00 |
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剛才本席聽了許多同事跟你們探討過，這筆錢將近有400億，在這400億當中，地方有發生問題、感到需要改善，地方提出計畫給你們，是否就能得到這筆補助經費？ |
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0.548 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
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2026-04-09T09:55:27.288000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T09:55:27.428000+08:00 |
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請部長回答一下。 |
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0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
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2026-04-09T09:55:27.448000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T09:55:27.969000+08:00 |
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是，感謝委員非常關心。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
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2026-04-09T09:55:28.049000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T09:55:30.290000+08:00 |
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基本上就是縣市政府報上來之後由我們審查，審查後通常都會核定。 |
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0.821 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
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2026-04-09T09:55:30.310000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T09:55:47.041000+08:00 |
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但是地方政府要報上來，我們也要體諒他們，有時候周邊的人大家都有不同的意見，所以這也是為什麼會比較慢。 |
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0.783 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
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2026-04-09T09:55:47.061000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T09:55:48.822000+08:00 |
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雖然工程改善在工程面、技術面不困難，但主要是人的溝通。 |
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0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
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2026-04-09T09:55:49.082000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T09:55:51.944000+08:00 |
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剛才大家都有提到，如果不是有這麼好的計畫，坦白說，地方上包括里長或議員，絕對會有一堆提案送上來，但為什麼會沒有？ |
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0.66 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
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2026-04-09T09:55:51.984000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T09:56:15.702000+08:00 |
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不是縣市政府不夠努力，絕對是因為地方上的協調跟溝通還沒有共識，如果有共識，經費要撥下去一定都很快，所以要跟委員說比較大的難題應該是在這個地方，還要拜託民意代表幫忙。 |
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0.724 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
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2026-04-09T09:56:16.162000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T09:56:46.469000+08:00 |
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重點就在這裡，有好的計畫，百姓卻認為你要做人行道，但我家門外的空地原本都占得好好的，你們現在平白無故要向中央請款來做，害我家門口不能停摩托車，也不能放花盆，這就是里長的難處所在。對。 |
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0.439 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
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2026-04-09T09:56:46.629000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T09:56:47.649000+08:00 |
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所以里長都會認為不要做就好了。 |
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0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
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2026-04-09T09:56:47.989000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T09:57:26.572000+08:00 |
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本席之所以這樣問，是因為這筆經費將近有400億，若是地方政府發現地方需要改善的人行道要提出計畫請中央核定才會有經費，怎麼可能由交通部發現每個地方都有交通的問題、人行道的問題、發生車禍的問題，就主動補助地方政府嗎？ |
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0.625 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
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2026-04-09T09:57:26.572000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-04-09T09:57:37.596000+08:00 |
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請部長回答一下，有沒有可能？ |
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0.167 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
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2026-04-09T09:57:37.596000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T09:57:48.487000+08:00 |
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我跟委員報告，我們總共有三個計畫，一個叫做「永續提升人行安全計畫」，一個叫做「提升道路品質計畫」，一個叫做「生活圈道路交通系統建設計畫」，這是指市區道路。對。 |
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0.803 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
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2026-04-09T09:57:48.487000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-09T09:58:01.029000+08:00 |
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這些計畫在嘉義市分別有5.64億、7.67億和6.92億，事實上都有在補助。 |
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0.269 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
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2026-04-09T09:58:01.029000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T09:58:06.931000+08:00 |
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部長，在這裡我也代表嘉義市、嘉義市政府感謝中央對嘉義市的補助。 |
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0.679 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-04-09T09:58:08.791000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T09:58:25.419000+08:00 |
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因為嘉義市政府包括百姓、里長和議員都非常認真、非常努力，都想要爭取到中央經費回來建設交通，把人行道做得更好。對。 |
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0.52 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-04-09T09:58:26.620000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T09:58:39.610000+08:00 |
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現在我跟您說的是，我從資料來看，我故鄉有在改善，但在道安會報裡面，我的故鄉嘉義市車禍傷亡人數卻沒有減少。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.447 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-04-09T09:58:49.061000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-04-09T09:58:49.261000+08:00 |
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這是不是道安會報？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.375 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-09T09:58:49.261000+08:00 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-04-09T09:58:50.261000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
我是不是可以請次長回答你？ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-04-09T09:58:50.261000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
1 |
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2026-04-09T09:58:51.261000+08:00 |
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部長、署長，嘉義市得到改善之後，你看在嘉義市的報告裡面，嘉義市是沒有減少的。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-04-09T09:58:51.003000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T09:58:52.023000+08:00 |
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這不光是改善硬體就能處理的，也要有軟體的改善。對啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.304 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-04-09T09:59:07.354000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-04-09T09:59:18.298000+08:00 |
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但我的意思是說，是不是地方要認真，中央有這筆錢，但要如何改善才會變得更好？ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.576 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-04-09T09:59:19.298000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-04-09T09:59:22.219000+08:00 |
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我是不是可以請交通部的次長回答你？好。 |
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0.706 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-09T09:59:24.340000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-04-09T09:59:25.080000+08:00 |
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我跟委員報告一下…… |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-09T09:59:25.461000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-04-09T09:59:28.722000+08:00 |
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次長，你看到這張圖會感到害怕嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-09T09:59:29.682000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-04-09T09:59:48.932000+08:00 |
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嘉義市是一個非常小的城市，有26萬人的交通，雖然大部分的人都是騎摩托車比較多，但交通安全對地方是非常重要的，何況有用這筆經費改善的，你看有110年、111年、112年、113年、114年…… |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.731 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-09T09:59:49.893000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-04-09T09:59:50.934000+08:00 |
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我跟委員報告，我們有看到這個現象，所以…… |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.765 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-09T09:59:51.074000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-04-09T09:59:51.214000+08:00 |
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那你有嚇到嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-09T09:59:51.214000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-09T10:00:03.895000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
還是覺得沒什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.143 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-09T10:00:03.895000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-09T10:00:05.359000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
人數的增加對我們來說都是…… |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-09T10:00:05.359000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-09T10:00:10.434000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
很心痛嘛、很難受嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.125 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-09T10:00:10.434000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-09T10:00:30.085000+08:00 |
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對，很心痛，沒辦法接受，所以這個數目的增加，我們不是把它看成是冰冷的數字而已，是覺得很沉痛，所以我們歷次，尤其最近都有跟嘉義市政府相關的交通單位或警察單位，大家討論如何來降低，當然以這個情勢來看…… |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-09T10:00:30.085000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-09T10:00:31.085000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
討論得怎麼樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-09T10:00:30.425000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-09T10:00:30.485000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
你們要怎麼做？ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-09T10:00:34.667000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-04-09T10:00:56.862000+08:00 |
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有幾個面向，你剛才說的工程的面向，當然要來看相關的改善，另外一個，執法面也是很重要，也就是警察的執法，最後一個就是要多多宣導，這部分我們會跟嘉義市相關單位來看到底是什麼地方有問題，再共同來解決。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.886 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-09T10:00:56.862000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-04-09T10:01:14.359000+08:00 |
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因為說實在的，我本來認為應該是沒這麼嚴重，但看到這個數字的時候，我會覺得這個資料是不是有錯，我會這樣想耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.729 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-09T10:01:14.539000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-04-09T10:01:16.480000+08:00 |
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我想說我們就有在改善，我們市政府也有在認真打拚。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.682 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-09T10:01:16.620000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-04-09T10:01:16.660000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
部長，你要補充嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-09T10:01:16.680000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-04-09T10:01:24.065000+08:00 |
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我是不是請我們署長再跟你報告一下，因為我們認為嘉義市的市區道路設計可能有一些狀況，這要做很大的改善；也跟委員報告，因為委員非常關心，另外也包括因為嘉義市人來人往、觀光客也很多，所以出現了這麼多的交通事故。 |
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劉部長世芳 |
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2026-04-09T10:01:24.225000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:01:25.306000+08:00 |
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其他的部分，我請署長跟你做補充。 |
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王委員美惠 |
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2026-04-09T10:01:25.306000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:01:49.751500+08:00 |
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好，請署長。 |
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蔡署長長展 |
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2026-04-09T10:01:49.751500+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:02:14.197000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，人行空間的部分，有關剛剛講的交通事故，因為嘉義的道路，它都市計畫有些都畫很寬，實際上依照車流量，它的寬度其實不需要那麼多車道，有些是提供一些綠帶或是分隔島或者是一些人行空間，如果道路有很多車道讓他走的話，車流量很快，就會容易造成相關事故。 |
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蔡署長長展 |
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2026-04-09T10:02:14.197000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:02:21.602000+08:00 |
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有關這個部分，我們在人行空間部分有做過檢討，所以我們會給嘉義市政府一個建議，全市的路口，包含道路比較寬的地方，可能要做整體的檢討。 |
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王委員美惠 |
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2026-04-09T10:02:21.622000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:02:47.203000+08:00 |
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署長、部長，本席覺得我們在這裡是要解決問題，不是要去說市政府做得不好還是什麼，因為我的故鄉在嘉義市，我希望交通可以更安全、更好，每一個當民意代表的都有這個責任，要怎麼讓故鄉的交通更好。 |
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王委員美惠 |
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2026-04-09T10:02:48.104000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:03:13.423000+08:00 |
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所以我希望署長、部長及交通部，可以拿出你們的專業，幫忙我們嘉義市，因為我相信在這裡的每一位立委都不分什麼黨派，只是爭取讓嘉義市的交通可以更安全、更好。 |
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0.544 |
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王委員美惠 |
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2026-04-09T10:03:14.784000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:03:26.833000+08:00 |
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當初署長你還沒來的時候，前署長也曾經去嘉義市好幾次，當然要改善不是一、兩天的事情，不過希望中央的專業能夠下放到地方政府，這樣你們花這些錢才有意義啦！ |
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0.618 |
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王委員美惠 |
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2026-04-09T10:03:41.185000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:04:01.616000+08:00 |
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我們在報紙或是手機上看到車禍新聞時，像是庇護島的部分，有的開車的人都會罵，他好像在「切西瓜」一樣，你看，這是新聞，這是確實有發生的事情，這是開車的人的問題還是設計的問題？ |
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0.587 |
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王委員美惠 |
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2026-04-09T10:04:01.616000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:04:32.273000+08:00 |
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這也很重要，因為每一項改變的計畫，不管是行人也好、開車的人也好、騎機車的也好，大家都要認可這樣的計畫，在這個過程中，我覺得中央單位必須去配合地方政府。 |
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0.627 |
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王委員美惠 |
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2026-04-09T10:04:32.453000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:04:56.551000+08:00 |
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剛剛我問部長的是，你們這400億的經費是你們自己會給地方還是地方要自己爭取，部長的回答就是，地方有看到問題，要規劃相關計畫，才有辦法爭取這些錢，所以我希望中央能夠對嘉義市多多關心與協助。 |
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0.578 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
王委員美惠 |
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2026-04-09T10:04:56.871000+08:00 |
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2026-04-09T10:05:31.659000+08:00 |
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署長，因為只有短短7分鐘的時間要跟你探討這些問題，探討不完，所以會後本席會再跟你來探討未來要如何改善，尤其學校旁邊的人行道，嘉義市有幾間學校都改善得很好，不過好還要更好。以上。好。 |
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0.65 |
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主席 |
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2026-04-09T10:05:32.159000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-09T10:05:41.301857+08:00 |
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跟委員會報告，黃捷委員詢答完後處理臨時提案，臨時提案處理完後休息5分鐘。 |
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主席 |
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2026-04-09T10:05:41.601857+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-09T10:05:45.316143+08:00 |
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我們接下來請李柏毅召委發言。 |
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