| IVOD_ID |
168287 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168287 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-26-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-08T12:20:48+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-08T12:26:49+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:01 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/70d8fc05dcd8abb00c42bf037786b68701ae777e4c72867e3efd812baa63ee58b328fc7562c8dfc65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:20:48 - 12:26:49 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請環境部部長、經濟部、衛生福利部、農業部就「穩定供給與減塑並進：因應國際原物料波動之原物料穩定供應及我國減塑治理進程」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
討論事項
一、審查「廢棄物清理法條文修正草案」9案：
（一）委員馬文君等17人擬具「廢棄物清理法第五條條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員顏寬恒等19人擬具「廢棄物清理法第四十六條條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員顏寬恒等17人擬具「廢棄物清理法第五條條文修正草案」案。
（四）委員林淑芬等22人擬具「廢棄物清理法第七十一條條文修正草案」案。
（五）委員張宏陸等17人擬具「廢棄物清理法第四十六條條文修正草案」案。
（六）委員邱議瑩等21人擬具「廢棄物清理法部分條文修正草案」案。
（七）委員許智傑等29人擬具「廢棄物清理法第四十六條條文修正草案」案。
（八）委員劉建國等19人擬具「廢棄物清理法部分條文修正草案」案。
（九）委員陳冠廷等20人擬具「廢棄物清理法第五十條條文修正草案」案。
二、審查「資源回收再利用法修正草案」2案：
（一）委員許智傑等28人擬具「資源回收再利用法修正草案」案。
（二）委員盧縣一等16人擬具「資源回收再利用法修正草案」案。
【專題報告及法律案綜合詢答，法律案僅詢答】
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主席辛苦了 難為 我盡量的能夠把握時間來有請我們環境部的彭部長有請彭部長委員好部長等一下 因為還沒上線等一下 |
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統籌各部會穩工跟減瘦配合建立公尿順位及提升再生尿的循環我接下來的問題剛好可以滿足剛剛來不及跟紅委員回覆的我先請教部長你有沒有聽過這種瘦瘦針有打下去一針就見效一個月可以減一公斤那請問你可以控制他減哪裡嗎他整個壓抑你的食慾讓你強制減重對不對對這是個總量的減禮但是有人去健身他說什麼雕塑 |
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該減的地方減,不該減的地方還是要擴張的機率,是不是?是好,所以我覺得我們的減瘦啊,不能從瘦瘦症的總量,要從什麼?健身雕塑來上,往下看來,平常減瘦跟非常瘦的線瘦,平常我們減瘦,你目前是採取總額目標管理嘛,5%、10%你們定目標嘛但是在非常時期的線瘦,我們有沒有提供一個配額給不同的需求者? |
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然後我再往下看你可能還在疑惑來我認為環境部應該跨部會趁著這次危機不要浪費任何一次危機農業部有沒有用資材農業的資材有沒有用塑有嘛衛生部有沒有用醫材有啊你的點滴你現在用玻璃瓶吊點滴還是用塑膠瓶吊點滴塑膠瓶嘛經濟部有沒有包材物流業者要什麼包裝嘛請問你覺得哪一個最重要如果要定優先順位的話 |
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必要性跟急迫性必要性的話如果可以做的話應該是經濟部跟農業部經濟部跟農業部的包裁或是資產這個可以剪可以剪醫材要優先供應對醫材優先供應好請問衛福部環境部那你們平常有對這些使用塑料的這些材料有去進行一些用途別的管控跟用量的掌握以及它的急迫性跟缺口性的排序嗎 |
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包委員 目前沒有很好 我這樣一句話就夠了目前沒有 以後要有來往下看其實我們塑膠原物料的管理應該有一個全社會防衛的一個韌性的概念非防時期我料進不來了本來需要100只進來了60那我要分配給誰 |
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我不是叫他一律檢打六折欸我要有系列的去分配所以呢包括在美國在國防生產法在歐盟他有一個關鍵原物料法案他都對這些事情有所規範部長可不可以去參考一下好可以我們塑膠的確沒有放在這裡面你好所以呢我接下來要問的是接下來下一頁就是環境部的總量分配資材 醫材跟包材 |
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不能夠是打瘦瘦針一樣我現在料不夠啦我全部都給我縮幾層不是 而是怎樣要有源頭的管制管制的內容還要很重要的甚至要鼓勵回收再生料 對不對進來的新的沒進來就得繼續用看怎麼回收使用所以目前這一次雖然是中共的戰火讓我們在進原料的部分受到 |
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減工 但是你要穩工 還要怎樣 還要配合減塑所以剛剛集會委員知道 我認為部長講得很好 沒有衝突是併工的 是要穩工 但是要減塑但是你要什麼 你要不同用途類別的Priority優先順位的排序 跟他分別配合的管制思考 |
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部長有沒有辦法做到這一點這個我們會來研究因為委員提到建議比較好因為我們現在全面性的做的確會遇到一些瓶頸那委員如果對症下藥譬如說減了一個那是有用的好所以我來跟你講我是來自農業縣其實我們農業在進行再生料的循環我們一方面減料一方面回收還要用什麼二次的使用的再生料其實農業部他要回收農磨要清洗要再利用這個有沒有得到環境部的支持 |
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有沒有有 這個我們有在那個跟農業部一起推動是然後再生料的話現在有建立這個二次料的一個平台對 我跟你講一下署長 部長我上次有為了一個農藥的包裝我有提到農藥的包裝回收很困難再製的原 |
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那個再生料它成本要高過去由於中國的經濟內捲它大量的塑膠原料低價傾銷所以進口的原生料比國內的再生料還要便宜很多結果再生料沒有人買資源回收做得下去嗎做不下去那請問環境部拿出什麼對策拿出什麼對策是不是你要有政策補貼是不是你要強制或鼓勵導入是不是這樣有沒有打算這樣做 |
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我們是從這個 我們的一個回收基金的回收費裡面來做這個做法是 署長 這個我們都是要討論過了是 要讓部長知道 你要指示我們署長是有關於政策補貼跟強制或鼓勵導入環境部要拿出資源出來 才有辦法各部會聽你的啊你不能告各部會說 我給你總量管制 你配合多少 驗性是怎麼樣你同時要拿出什麼 |
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棒子之外有胡蘿蔔 你的胡蘿蔔在哪裡可以 我們現在其實目前我們的循環法裡面未來的這個東西會統一的來管理所以這個部分我們贊同委員的看法可以蘿蔔的部分可以更多一點點好 那最後的結論時間到了來 結論結論就是請環境部會同經濟部 衛福部跟農業部 |
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提供各部會塑膠原料的需求他的優先順位清單也請讓你們設定主動減速的目標以及被動危機時候來臨的配額兩道邏輯 可不可以去做可以 沒問題好 另外請農業部盤點農業再生資產的獎勵或補助計畫當他們提出來的時候請環境部也要去支持好不好好 沒問題那這兩個結論什麼時候可以給我 |
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兩個月 兩個月沒問題 空白支票讓你們簽 兩個月就兩個月好 謝謝 謝謝部長 謝謝委員 謝謝好 謝謝宗嘉賓委員發言 |