| IVOD_ID |
168266 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168266 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-08T11:32:09+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-08T11:40:20+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:11 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/70d8fc05dcd8abb065d296a2c41ddd292d46cf68b7d09b753efd812baa63ee58d4923c6205c677e65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳雪生 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:32:09 - 11:40:20 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：【變更議程】
一、審查委員羅智強等23人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法增訂第二十四條之一條文草案」案。二、審查委員徐欣瑩等17人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第一百三十三條條文修正草案」案。三、審查委員林宜瑾等20人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第十四條條文修正草案」案。四、審查委員張雅琳等19人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第十四條及第一百三十四條條文修正草案」案。五、審查委員范雲等17人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第十四條條文修正草案」案。六、審查委員柯志恩等18人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第十四條條文修正草案」案。七、審查委員陳菁徽等17人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第十四條條文修正草案」案。八、審查委員陳玉珍等17人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第二十六條條文修正草案」案。九、審查台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第二十六條條文修正草案」案。十、審查委員林淑芬等23人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第二十六條條文修正草案」案。十一、審查委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第二十六條條文修正草案」案。十二、審查委員林宜瑾等22人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第二十六條條文修正草案」案。十三、審查委員林宜瑾等20人擬具「總統副總統選舉罷免法第十一條及第二十三條條文修正草案」案。十四、審查委員張雅琳等19人擬具「總統副總統選舉罷免法第十一條、第二十三條及第一百十七條條文修正草案」案。十五、審查委員范雲等17人擬具「總統副總統選舉罷免法第十一條及第二十三條條文修正草案」案。十六、審查委員柯志恩等17人擬具「總統副總統選舉罷免法第十一條及第二十三條條文修正草案」案。十七、審查委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「總統副總統選舉罷免法第二十六條條文修正草案」案。十八、審查委員林宜瑾等20人擬具「總統副總統選舉罷免法第二十六條條文修正草案」案。
【僅詢答；第十一案及第十七案如經復議則不予審查】） |
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兩個問題問你一下,國家重要私地,私地是內政部管的嗎?要看是國家型的還是地方型的? |
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國家重要私地對,私地是我們管,但是要有國家型的還有地方型的國家級的啊國家級的當然是既然列為國家重要私地當然是,國家公允署那我們馬祖有個國家重要私地,你有沒有聽說過不要說看啦,有沒有聽說過我不只聽說過,我去看過看過?看過,那你一年編的多少錢預算? |
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很抱歉,今天我沒有把他帶過來但是報告委員,我們今年預算也都沒過啊所以我編多少預算一點意義都沒有去年有沒有過?去年當然有過啊前年有沒有過?你關心一下好不好?他用了幾塊錢啊?那個重要失利我是很反對的我當現場的時候啊搞出一個重要失利然後變成國家重要失利 |
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但你一毛錢都不花啊 那個叫什麼重要私地啊私地有的時候是為了保存而保存 倒是不是加了很多人工的建築我告訴你 是為了選舉啦選舉啊 結黨結派啦把他搞成一個重要私地我擺在肚子裡面我沒說出來啦現在已經多少年了你既然重要私地有個背在那邊國家重要私地你不要鬧笑話好不好 |
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那你就把它弄好嘛好不好既然內政部當然部長不是你啊已經換了好幾任部長既然有這麼一個師弟在那邊你就把它弄好嘛你不然就把那個牌子拆掉既然不是就拆掉嘛你擺在那裡丟人現眼幹什麼公告有公告的程序啦如果要撤銷有撤銷的程序 |
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這個東西是你們內政部搞出來的我們來檢討一下不是我搞出來的,是你們弄出來的你如果要它繼續存在的話,你就把它維護好好不好,你就維護好這是一個問題第二個問題就是馬祖目前有大陸的有一些人士啊判過刑期屆滿啊人求啦齁那麼沒錢也沒地方住你們把它丟到馬祖去 |
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移民署在管的,移民署在處理的都讓馬主席準備要遣返怎麼遣返?爹不疼娘不愛你遣返沒辦法遣返,上一次遣返了一個回去然後陸委會想借用這個圓球的模式因為那是福建省那邊同意的 |
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那他的入境出入境只一次一次一次那想說這四十幾個十幾個也有十幾個啦並讓你們一起走後來也不行那後來我聽說透過紅石智慧那現在政府跟對面都沒有功能了嘛等於嘛你們這四十幾個人球丟在馬祖他不會賺錢啊他沒錢啊那也沒地方住啊 |
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那你說會發生什麼事?這社會問題了嘛是不是製造社會問題?我們觀光商業那麼多,那這些人在那邊在幹什麼?他沒錢啊第一個社會觀感不好第二個,也會出狀況啊那你為什麼不擺在金門?或者擺在澎湖也可以啊你好的丟在金門,不好的放在馬祖能不能把他們送到金門去好不好?您看部長 |
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如果那個金門的民意代表同意的話我們也當然考慮之列但是我想我想我想你了解遣返機制那遣返機制不能夠操之在我所以事實上確實會有一些觀感上面的問題或是在處理上面的問題但是我們盡量把它維持好 |
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不是部長,你把他放在馬祖是什麼意思,我真的搞不懂你欸等待遣返吃飯移民署,移民署出來沒來?沒有,今天只有處理選罷法,我們只有民政司的你移民署你要不要給他伙食費? |
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這些人吃什麼?他已經不是屬於延長收容的部分那我們是請外面的類似紅十字會或是民間團體如果你們移民署沒管的話,那我就回去把他們買個機票,我帶他們到金門去玩玩了以後把他們丟在金門,你看怎麼樣? |
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你是說從馬祖帶到金門去玩,然後把他丟在金門我就不管他了我所了解馬祖到金門沒有直飛的班機我有辦法啊,我飛到台灣再飛到金門啊委員我想我們嚴肅的面對這個問題如果他有衍生其他的社會或治安的問題的話,我們來協助處理衍生的時候已經來不及了,是不是 |
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治安問題出現的時候已經來不及了我是說未雨綢繆你們睜大眼睛把這問題解決好不好你跟對面沒辦法去解決 |
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我們可能會來考量,是不是有這個在延長收容的機制但是在延長收容的機制的話,還要會同幾個機關一起同意的時候才能處理我沒有意見,但是這些人你要處理嘛,對不對你不處理,你要我們怎麼處理?你要我去處理嗎?還是馬祖的縣長去處理嗎?跟對面去談嗎?也不能談啊,協議也不能簽啊,是不是 |
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鄭麗媛主席去那邊,又去唱紅啊,又來啊所以反正都是不好的嘛我去跟對面聊兩天,聊兩句,縣長去跟他縣長沒講話,對面講話回來你們內政部也要他做筆錄,做了老半天誰敢去啊我覺得住在台灣也蠻恐怖的現在,我覺得很恐怖你不覺得嗎 |
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你說大陸那邊人權不好,我們這裡人權也好不了哪裡去我覺得報告委員,不能同日而已,我們就是常備管轄的跨境鎮壓的對象常備管轄,我們已經跟大陸來往幾十年了我們有被統戰了嗎?有被幹什麼了嗎?我去統匪了嗎?沒有嘛是不是,但是你不要把每個人都當作賊一樣啊 |
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是不是?我們相信你看去那麼多人,有沒有哪些人滯留大陸不回來的?沒有啊有報告委員,現在有些宗教團體去那邊確實被留置,到現在還沒回來人家說不准做法輪功,你要到那邊去練功那有什麼辦法?不是法輪功好啦好啦,我今天跟你講這個40幾個人球的問題,你去處理好不好?你那個失利的請他們回報一下好不好? |
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我要了解你們對勢力怎麼處理,好不好?報告委員,現在馬祖的勢力目前的狀況是嗎?我雖然反對,當然啦我雖然反對,但是我很關心啊你要,你就把它好好保管好你不要,你不要就把那個牌子給我打掉是不是?你總要有個方式嘛,你不能丟在那裡啊,好不好?我希望這個事情給我回報一下部長謝謝 |