| IVOD_ID |
168250 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168250 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-08T10:37:30+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-08T10:52:25+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:14:55 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/70d8fc05dcd8abb01c395aab9e8be43b2d46cf68b7d09b75ce185cfc45202cc09d0dce7f622c2f575ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王美惠 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:37:30 - 10:52:25 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：【變更議程】
一、審查委員羅智強等23人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法增訂第二十四條之一條文草案」案。二、審查委員徐欣瑩等17人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第一百三十三條條文修正草案」案。三、審查委員林宜瑾等20人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第十四條條文修正草案」案。四、審查委員張雅琳等19人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第十四條及第一百三十四條條文修正草案」案。五、審查委員范雲等17人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第十四條條文修正草案」案。六、審查委員柯志恩等18人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第十四條條文修正草案」案。七、審查委員陳菁徽等17人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第十四條條文修正草案」案。八、審查委員陳玉珍等17人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第二十六條條文修正草案」案。九、審查台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第二十六條條文修正草案」案。十、審查委員林淑芬等23人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第二十六條條文修正草案」案。十一、審查委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第二十六條條文修正草案」案。十二、審查委員林宜瑾等22人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第二十六條條文修正草案」案。十三、審查委員林宜瑾等20人擬具「總統副總統選舉罷免法第十一條及第二十三條條文修正草案」案。十四、審查委員張雅琳等19人擬具「總統副總統選舉罷免法第十一條、第二十三條及第一百十七條條文修正草案」案。十五、審查委員范雲等17人擬具「總統副總統選舉罷免法第十一條及第二十三條條文修正草案」案。十六、審查委員柯志恩等17人擬具「總統副總統選舉罷免法第十一條及第二十三條條文修正草案」案。十七、審查委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「總統副總統選舉罷免法第二十六條條文修正草案」案。十八、審查委員林宜瑾等20人擬具「總統副總統選舉罷免法第二十六條條文修正草案」案。
【僅詢答；第十一案及第十七案如經復議則不予審查】） |
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保定跟我們中選會的王處長好 麻煩部長跟處長 |
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部長、處長、校長今天本學生跟你們談到一個公職人員的罷免法重點的原因就是選舉的法律修訂以後的政策規定跟選務工作要合一下去給中選會處長你知道嗎 |
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海報委員,在條文裡面有看到,謝謝有看到?跟你認為,現在在修的時間,剛才你有回答整個立委,立委說沒問題啦齁,在這個過程本身要跟你說的是,我們是要提升選舉的獨立,屬權統一的立場的時候,那在內政部這邊 |
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基本上 內政部說 他們沒有反對嘛那在你們中選會 你認為怎麼樣 台立會答謝 |
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報導委員關於這個選政選務分立這個事情討論已久那目前在內政部的組織法裡面是管選政那中選會的組織法裡面是依照法律來執行選務所以這個選政選務之間其實兩部會跟選政選務之間的分工跟配合一項都非常良好所以我們才建議說維持現行的這個制度的規定來辦理這樣你的意思就是說維持不用再去修啊 |
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是不是這樣來回答一下是啦,但是在這個規定當中像我們的收工資罷免法裡面有總統、副總統的選罷免,同樣的規定是不是也同步 |
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下去修正是不是這樣來 請回答一下還是不用修 選總統 改選的選 改選的選舉是不是適用這兩個不一樣來 回答一下這個制度 |
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報告委員,依照選罷法的規定,那個選舉公告發布前,發布後就要適用新法所以說這個條文如果是在選罷法發布後,那選舉公告發布後才施行的我現在就是,你說你們的立場,你們的選法啦不要緊張啦,今天是大家做參考,可以讓這個法 |
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還好啦,因為我覺得選舉的時候,說實在,很神聖的,不能亂來,像我們說,整個都由中選會去做的時候,你覺得中選會有辦法去選擇嗎?像嘉義市就好了,嘉義市的中選會, |
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那最大的那個什麼人你知不知道主委 主任委員跟什麼人下去擔任的你知不知道主任委員一般都是由地方政府的三長就是縣長 副縣長或秘書長對啊 所以說齁處長 我要跟你談到的就是說我們如果有合作的時候地方政府的秘書會更順暢跟你如果跟你們單一你們獨立的 |
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這個人數,你們要調配也好,台獨話也好,說我們將近六十八歲,可以在今年度,來算去將近四十幾萬人的時候,這也是需要調配餒,處長,這不是說我們中選委會說的,把我們給發動去承擔餒,你發動補充什麼沒有來, |
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報告委員那所有選舉從總統到村里長其實選務跟選政都是一體適用的那所以說我們才剛剛的報告裡面才會說我們也是同意內政部的意見就是說這依照內政部的組織法裡面選政是內政部來辦理那選務的部分是中選會辦理那這個選政選務的分立跟他的合作跟配合 |
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那向來就合作的非常的良好所以我們才會建議說還是依照現行的制度規定來辦理因為我擔心的就是說未來如果都是你們去處理的時候你們的經費也有問題啦到你們目前為止你們有55個人在裡面的編制裡面 |
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但萬一說 這樣分析的時候 評估的時候這會動人 立法會他們的想法會如何 主席你回答一下報告主委齁 報告委員齁沒關係 大家來 我是立法會 我們國會立法會慢慢來沒關係那就是說 就是那個中選會齁那除了說 因為我們中選會跟地方選會都是所謂的骨幹型組織啦 |
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就是我們的員額都非常的精簡那除了說平時都有調用地方的人員當任長兼人員之外那選舉期間依法也會調用地方政府的人員來兼任選務那所以說在選務的負擔跟作業的辦理上有很大的部分是要仰賴地方政府的協助那所以這個選政選務分立的這種目前的狀況那我們還是建議說還是維持現行的規定 |
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才可以有效的跟地方政府來協力合作 以上這樣好 處長在這禮拜來 麻煩你如果說有會合意怎麼做 怎麼規定的時候拜託送一份來內政部 好不好 委員會不是啦 我是真白的就委了沒有 遵照委員的指示辦理 謝謝 |
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喔 我想說你也贏一個 再來 來 處長 壓制 來 我們的內政部部長喔在這個選舉裡面 我覺得很矛盾的啦 因為我覺得不管帶一黨都一樣啦 |
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因為剛才我們有看到總統的情形,因為大家要選舉的心都會寫他的資料,來去選舉委員會報名,看你是要參選市長、參選館長、參選代表,還是議員,主要你都寫的,在這幾天的改變就是, |
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他的學歷,以前都有無窮的,所以我們規定說,在大學以上,一定要有他的比較正式,要不然在這個規定,我們最近的草草鬧鬧,白色也看不到什麼什麼 |
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會覺得說,他就說算了,跟武家兩黨換一邊,幾黨換一邊的當中說實在,這審核的機制 |
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報告委員審核學歷是嗎?審核學歷跟有雙重國籍嗎?那個是選務的部分,請中選會 |
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報告委員,那關於說候選人的學歷的部分,那主要是依照選罷法47條的規定啦,就是大學以上的學歷不是啦,我現在啦,你說這個我知道,現在的學歷就是這幾年來,你們都沒辦法去選了嘛,有的才到高校,他的資料寫大學的 |
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我建議你去說,大學的時候要有筆劃,只是日本不可以那樣,還可以認定它是大學筆劃,這我知道,我是說,再來我們的雙重國籍,不管你是哪一國的,包括大家有異性, |
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加二次出動營就位,人家都叫他出公道啦 |
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他要開始做立法委員啦他雙重國籍他在美國的時候是終身的教授啦他為了愛台灣為了要台灣好呢為了他要信任他是中華民國台灣的立法委員他啦,他美國的國籍 |
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是對啦,他才會當作台灣中華民國的立法委員啦那就是雙重國籍啦現在我要說雙重國籍的時候 |
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報名安心讓他們自己寫這這樣才有誠意 才有努力我今天如果有跟我說你寫沒有 說實在的沒有你是要怎麼做啦你也沒有辦法查啦 你有辦法查嗎來 回答一下 |
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報告委員那目前的公職人選舉裡面除了總統副總選舉他的效益資格有規定不得有雙重國籍之外那立委到村里長以下他都並沒有有列雙重國籍為這個消極資格那如果說他就職之後是應該依照國籍法規定 |
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雙重國籍沒關係候選人登記的時候,他不是規定為消極資格?對啦,是依照國籍法20條的規定對啦,所以我要說喔,大家早早留留喔,要有時間喔,大家為了這個,在這裡爭執啦 |
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我認為你們的法律要去修好,你們若說我沒有雙重國籍,我覺得真的有我剛才說的,我覺得有,但你寫沒有,不然你要怎樣辦就是像剛才這樣,我覺得這時候你不要因為這樣 |
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這樣真的不好,我們應該去趕快找法律,看怎麼處理,不然內政委員會公裁也蠻辛苦的報告委員,有關國籍法20條的規定,那他是在就職的時候向他的任職機關提出是否有雙重國籍的這些切解,並不是由中選會來辦理,以上 |
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我說實在我今天實在沒什麼脾氣也很奇怪我是如果你們說去登記的時候登記的時候你們要審核的時候我們後面是不是有一個條例可以說要審的時候就來審就好不用這麼麻煩啦 |
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阿威沒資格,我們沒資格還可以做啦現在我說喔,如果這裡的時間浪費在這裡,真沒差啦我輸掉了,我再跟你說啦,來啦,去做啦來,主席拜託,跟兩分錢給我,我跟部長說一下 |
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不好意思,說得氣死我了在這裡說實在的,最近你看到不管是電視也好、手機也好、網路也好酒駕和獨駕這個過程當中,我也看你發表意見不過說實在的 |
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我在嘉義的黑服務衛生,我都騎著摩托車,有時在兩、三禮拜的進展,我看到獨家的人開車,在等紅燈前的摩托車給撞到 |
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但是在這個過程當中,我都常常想說,我們一個志向人,一個守規矩的人,去做這些工作,或是做這些工作,我認為那個法,法律上過程,所以說未來,包括補助率也好,司法也好, |
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可以早日來拉這個法,稍微多一陣子,因為在這個過程當中,我也要來補充說,為什麼很多人說疫情大嗎?是怎麼我們的鹽吃毒的時候,沒有鹽大嗎? |
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我所了解,是因為我們的營業時的費用,所以保證,我問問,這個費用不能省,一定要營業給退退,我們才有辦法改變中華民國台灣的制度、的環境,所以保證,我問問,我們這個 |
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酒醉也好,渡假也好,可以越來越久因為看現在的事情,可以這個家庭破碎所以我們不問我們的法,沒關係因為大家認為,跟這個天氣我們沒什麼要不然滴水這個家庭的時候,煙變很大所以普天我跟您在這邊,因為我不問,我們可以沒關係 |
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如果這個法,整個單位來看要怎麼樣是,感謝委員的提醒委員剛才講到保安,包括獨駕跟酒駕,我們希望可以提高刑責那有關獨駕的部分如果是累犯的話,希望朝著就是預備殺人啦那但是這個我們需要跟法務部還有司法院一起來配合,那我們會盡速來辦理 |
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因為我知道這幾天的單位了 是不過我們要趕緊 才有辦法去分支 再發生 再發生是 了解 以上 主席 |