| IVOD_ID |
168230 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168230 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-08T10:23:14+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-08T10:31:29+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:15 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/70d8fc05dcd8abb07d00a4c0faadce72a7afadf2dd1952ec212c5ce4660756d3c83aa5707098847e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝衣鳯 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:23:14 - 10:31:29 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長率台灣電力股份有限公司董事長及台灣中油股份有限公司董事長、行政院經貿談判辦公室首長、財政部首長、行政院主計總處首長就「台美關稅協定（ART）中關於『擴大採購及購買』（原油、天然氣、發電設備等）項目之評估、規劃及涉及之問題與工作，並就台灣中油股份有限公司之增資案」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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主席好我想請經濟部鞏部長還有我們經辦談判辦公室的徐代表徐委員早安早 |
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國務部長跟徐代表我想請問一下就是我們在對美的這個關稅談判裡面 |
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行政院公布的是說我們享有的是最惠國待遇但是目前我們看到了專利美國他公布的專利藥品的這個課稅裡面他對美輸進口的話需要課百分之百的關稅但是台灣並沒有在這個清單裡面為什麼 |
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我知道雖然說我們蘇美的這個藥品喔占我們的總額就是說專利藥占我們總額可能是10點多%而且產值不高但是我想請教的是會不會這是沒有享有最惠國待遇是不是有其他項目也不會享有最惠國待遇 |
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是 向委员报告首先在药品的部分这个我国在跟美国已经签署的这个投资MOU跟ART里面是有在明选民药跟它的原料是豁免对等关税选民药这个部分那所以上个礼拜政府院长在记者会也是有强调说这个是选民药的部分 |
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我是說專利藥因為過去你們對國人宣布的是說我們享有最惠國待遇但是現在我們看到了4月2號美國再次宣布的這個專利藥裡面我們沒有享有最惠國待遇但是未來會不會有其他項目我們也沒有享有最惠國待遇呢 |
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像委員報告就是說在那個今天的書面報告也有提到就是說我們在這個投資MOU裡面是有享有這個在半導體方面是最惠國的這個待遇是確定的那其他的有一些產品我們也是有享有這個稅率的那個 |
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比較低然後以及還有這個豁免的部分豁免的話在這個對等關稅裡面有豁免在MOU裡面有提到那至於說委員有提到說其他的項目那這個就是要看這個美方會不會再就所以有可能是不是但是我們的是不是有可能是不是有可能MOU裡面有提到說未來會不會有可能其他項目的時候雙方會再就這個部分會不會有可能還有其他項目 |
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如果有其他項目的時候MOU有載明雙方要做磋商那未來如果進一步有其他項目的時候你怎麼磋商那你磋商的條件是就是按照沒有辦法按照原稅率喔現在是15%嘛對不對不疊加 |
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因為就是說有新的項目的時候那按照MOU的規定雙方要再做磋商那我方一定是力爭能夠是相對優勢跟最佳的待遇那還有什麼其他的項目目前在你們清單裡面因為在其他項目還沒進入磋商的很多項喔他的規定是說 這樣子有很多項喔未來有新的項目的時候對 這樣子會有很多項喔所以那個是要看美方是不是有新的項目是不是未來會有很多項 |
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我們會持續的密切注意美方是不是有新的項目要進行232的國安調查還有我想要請教一下就在於我們工部長現在我們提到了就是未來要提高美國的天然氣占我國天然氣的總體占比那是不是就是說未來長期來講 |
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對於我們油價以及對於整體對煤採購的這個天然氣以及石油是不是會有結構性的轉變 會不會 |
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結構會有變化因為它就是會長期對剛剛提到的現在是大概我們從那邊購的是大概佔10%那為了能源韌性跟安全的問題所以我們會提高到2029年會提高到25%那主要理由就是說因為要分散一下風險原來是比較集中在卡拔 |
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所以對美的採購會提高到25%對 然後美國說老實話它的這個價格報價也比較穩定以目前來講的話所以對中國公司也是有幫助對我們也是有幫助的那對於整體的價格波動呢價格波動會比較穩定啊就是價格比較不會波動那但是整體的成本會不會提高 |
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理論上應該是不會因為美國事實上它的這個生產器的成本比中東要低所以未來如果對美採購天然氣是不會不會提高整體的成本 |
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跟委員報告中央公司採購LNG的話那一定是會根據國際市場的一個狀況來去議定這些合約當然包括這些價格所以應該就是在市場可接受的一個價格水平市場可接受的價格水平那所以現在目前中央公司虧損多少目前累積虧損是接近800億 |
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800億嘛793嘛對不對快要接近800億那未來你們預計還會虧損多少如果這一次的就是說中東的衝突沒有在四到六個禮拜解決更長的時候中油必須要虧損多少我們要拿多少人納稅錢去補這個洞 |
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跟委員報告當然就是說能源高漲進口成本增加所以在銷售端的部分如果說能夠某種程度的反應的話那這樣的虧損就會減緩那現在就是在於這個政策上對於照顧民生這個區塊後續的發展會是怎麼樣子中油公司就持續去關注這些事情 |
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所以你也不確定是你們內部沒有評估就是中東的衝突到底多久會結束嗎 |
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拱部長還有答案是不是拱部長有研究對不對拱部長有研究 你有研究對不對你知道中東的衝突有可能什麼時候結束今天是好消息就是說和緩了嘛 兩個禮拜那兩個禮拜期間這個船是可以通過赫姆斯海峽那我們希望當然有比較好的結果啦那我的意思就是說因為 |
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油價的波動會根據這個形勢變化波動非常大所以他這個消息一出來以後他的這個合約價就是這個預期價格馬上降到了這個100塊以下那這個變化就很大所以綜合公司的這個狀況財務狀況就會根據這個可能要比較精算沒有辦法說 |
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那麼確定去估算說未來很長遠的時間我們當然會有一些模擬但是那個只是一個模擬而已你沒有回答我問題你剛才好像你對那個中東衝突的這個有了解說有具體的了解說到底什麼時候會結束這個可能要問川普你給他打電話是不是好謝謝老師 |