| IVOD_ID |
168197 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168197 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-07 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第5次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第5次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-07T09:49:09+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-07T10:04:42+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:33 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b74a55aa15b4efbc2d85f3dd014aab4c1bfa9d9794544e495660d3757c18a4d1716be6cd68217e7c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅智強 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:49:09 - 10:04:42 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-07T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第5次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院台灣民眾黨黨團，建請院會作成決議：「要求行政院院長卓榮泰即刻核准各部會動支業經通過之新興民生計畫預算共計718億元，並依法編列『警察人員人事條例』及軍人志願役待遇調整等法律之相關預算，以維護國家整體利益，確保人民基本福祉，並回復憲政體制之正常運作。」是否有當？請公決案等3案。二、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。三、3月27日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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接下來我們請羅志強委員請質詢有請卓榮派院長麻煩再請卓院長備選羅委員好 |
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院長請你喝口水消消氣可以喝口水沒關係消消氣啦好還好還好待會我們不要生氣也不要大聲我們就平心靜氣的來談我們的憲政問題立法院3月13號依法通過中選會主委被提名人游盈榮委員被提名人李李仲 蘇嘉恆 |
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苏子乔的人事同意全案3月17号人事同意公文发给行政院到现在21天那卡住了中学会的人事不认命前面质询我都听过你的发言我也听过你一直强调这是诚信问题背信做人要讲诚信没错吧 |
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對不對立法院國民黨立法院黨團答應你民進黨的所有的中選會的人事我們通通要蓋同意結果蓋了不同意這就叫背信對不對如果啦對不對這個邏輯中間要有一塊不能這樣講不能這樣講來我舉個例子院長你邀請我參加活動我答應你結果沒出席是不是我背信 |
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這個是對於整個活動的影響跟你個人未來在被邀約的時候別人的考慮我就背信了嘛你邀請我參加活動我沒答應結果我沒去你說我背信你覺得對我公平嗎如果這樣如果你沒答應我當然沒有辦法邀請非常謝謝院長 |
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那我們就回到中選會的人事同意權我想請問籌備期間的黨團幹部是誰?國民黨黨團幹部是誰?請問你知道嗎?也跟我溝通過嘛我是書記長嘛你那時候的答案我知道你當時的回覆是蠻正面的 |
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我有正面啊怎麼正面告訴我把白紙黑字拿出來怎麼個正面啊不是白紙黑字我說歡迎民進黨提出人選等於是我今天歡迎你卓榮泰你舉辦宴會等於我要出席嘛你還說我們提出的人選相當有誠意我有說你提出的人選相當有誠意拿白紙黑字出來嘛沒關係來 stop 這邊 stop 一下主張者證這是最起碼的我們的論事的一個標準我沒有辦法舉證你的誠信那就好嘛 |
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我羅志強有沒有誠信的人讓大家社會來評判啊但是你要說我答應了你要拿出證據來我非常高興至少今天總統太院長在那邊說是羅志強答應的啊是嗎我們在拜訪的時候在現場你說過我們提出的名單是蠻有誠意的院長你長得實在很帥啊你長得很帥不過也欣賞你所以代表今天提名了人事同意權的時候院長你進來 |
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我一定要求全部國民黨黨團投給最帥的卓榮泰是這個意思嗎更何況我要告訴你民進黨提的人選坦白講除了游盈隆以外我通通不認識我怎麼樣去跟你講說民進黨人選很棒貴黨推薦的人選我也不認識非常好都不認識基於這樣的互信我們就提出來我也沒有去問他的黨籍沒有問他的政治立場沒有問他的政治事件的選擇你早上已經說過沒有答應了 |
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來 那請問誰答應 傅坤祺答應了嗎黨團跟黨團之間有黨團的交涉交涉有答應嗎 誰答應 黨團的幹部就是我啊 書記長啊你們要求行政院正式發文給你各黨團才依照那個時間跟內容提出你們的人選出來這個就是一個意識表示的行為這意識表示要答應啊 |
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如果你要這樣講 政治要談到什麼程度拜託 院長我先跟你釐清所有的分寸但你們現在怎麼去跨過台灣海峽怎麼跨過太平洋去跟人家談院長 院長如果貴黨是這種態度的話沒關係啦 我告訴你太可怕了沒有答應的事情你形容說我們必須答應然後形容說今天沒有投叫做背信沒關係 社會公派社會公派 對可是我回頭講一件事情今天我要問第二個問題 |
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所以顯然你也告訴誰答應嘛那我問你按照什麼法律來中選會組織法中選會成員由行政院院長提名立法院同意或任命請問是哪一條法律如果你要這樣講我只要一句話就好了如果你今天是這種態度我任命 |
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我認命被騙了我認命被騙我認命被騙你們就是要欺騙行政院第一個你的心靈多麼的強健跟脆弱我管不到 |
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我沒有答應你的事情然後你跟我講說我騙了你然後說你現在願意被騙願意認命那我告訴你我甚至鼓掌你啊即便你心裡這麼脆弱沒答應你都認為說今天我答應你這個被騙你還認為說被騙這件事你願意認命中美兩國都知道國民黨的態度是如此不要講到中美兩國去了啦 |
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今天連立法院你自己有沒有辦法去按照你自己的誠信標準講話你都做不到你自己都講了主張者證你最後講羅志強沒有答應就最後被羅志強背信 |
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當初你們要求行政院正式發文我們也發文了就按照那個人數那個內容那個時間請問啊請問啊今天哪一個行政院提名的人士哪一個今天總統提名的人士不用發文到立法院你講給我聽 |
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發文的內容是請貴黨團推薦名單來照你們的意見發文請問你歷來立法院行政院請各黨團推薦人選哪一個不用發文推薦的人數也都講了推薦人數都講你們各推薦推薦人數等於是今天要投票同意真的這個沒有用我現在只要求一件事情我能不能要求一件事情如果大家願意補足誠信那我們補足程序天啊 |
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我都沒答應你跟我講補足誠信今天如果張三根理事求婚他沒答應他他說我都跟你求婚了我公文發到你家了你沒有答應我你背信你現在請補足誠信馬上嫁給我所以現在全國人民都會知道我們之間的溝通除了白紙黑紙之外全部都是白紙待會我拜託立法院黨團新任書記林佩祥 |
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發個公文給我們行政院好不好請行政院卓榮泰院長今天兌現非核家園的諾言不然就下台辭職公文到了以後你沒辭職就要背信我會回答啊我現在不是回答你啦你們的回答就是按照時間提出人選啊院長我告訴你啊我們提人選你們提人選本來到立法院也不是羅志強同意就能過的 |
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也不是韓國瑜同意就能過的那我知道以後怎麼跟立法院溝通了我告訴你謝謝你啊你這種態度不會造成兩院我知道我們提出這樣的方式之後你們也肯定社會也認為這是善意的第一步結果善意的第一步今天輪流到這種地步善意的第一步發文等於同意等於一定要通過我知道你的善意真的 |
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如泰山之重 人家承受不起啊真的承受不起啊 照你這種方式路邊隨便發文去請人家嫁給他 通通都要答應你這比喻不能不累啦你這比喻不能不累啦來 院長 我告訴你下一個今天為什麼詐騙這麼嚴重我要問問你就是因為這樣子啊就是因為你這個樣子嘛就是因為你們這樣子在詐騙這麼嚴重沒關係 詐騙問題你要扯來 我想問你下一個問題這個問題我們大家也社會公判但我只做一個很簡單的結論 |
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國民黨立法院黨團從來沒有同意今天民進黨送來的人士必須通過 |
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第二點國民黨立法院黨團是按照國民黨立法院所有的委員大家共同的意志今天認為民進黨國民黨民主黨提名單當中游銀龍他是一個民進黨提名的主委我們認為他失任所以我們投下同意票另外三位我們認為不失任所以投下不同意票那接下來我也跟各位講一件事情只要中選會以目前來講的話請問還有多少委員在任八位 |
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目前啦 加上四個通過的嘛 四位嘛 加上四個通過就是八個嘛 對不對八個裡面幾個是民進黨提名的啊 前面那四個就是民進黨提名的啊 是啦 去查查看啦那我現在問你齁 李慶紅都說過啦 中選會幾個人可以開會 |
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所以我說我來補足程序我另外提三個人 |
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那請大院再來行使同意權你現在已經通過四個人進去 四加四 八數學也好一點 就可以開會了剩下三個 你可以繼續進去這是你們精心計算的一場騙局又來騙局了院長 真的 拜託你啊公告一個新的法律以後今天求婚 不用對方同意 |
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不要再用這種不倫不類的講法在立法院的殿堂裡面民主殿堂裡面談好的事情都能夠說沒有白寫黑字談好兩個字有談要好啊 |
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你也曾經是黨團幹部我也知道黨團幹部的辛苦我直接告訴你啦你所有東西根本不合邏輯 為什麼第一個 你們有談 沒有人同意什麼叫背心 問號一第二個 我要告訴你本人當國民黨立法院黨團書記長非常知道我的分寸 這分寸是什麼我今天就是一個協商的功能我沒有立場代表黨團答應事情嘛這麼簡單嘛 |
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因為立法院國民黨立法院黨團我只是選出來服務大家的幹部請問今天你們來把公文發到國民黨立法院黨團就等於國民黨立法院代表所有黨團成員答應你天下焉有事理啊院長委員你在這裡如果真的這種翻臉不認帳態度我也沒有話說翻臉不認帳他有帳可認嗎今天你明把一個人家沒有答應的事情硬要灌在羅志強頭上的時候什麼叫翻臉不認帳 |
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什麼叫翻臉 你要說我翻臉不這樣 起碼把帳單拿出來嘛你也剛剛講我沒有答應啊 你又講我沒有答應啊我不用拿帳單 我只看這張臉翻臉不能照這張臉就好大家彼此看臉啦 |
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彼此看臉不要這樣子把這個當兒戲說真的大家在談的時候一次兩次三次當然不是在媒體公開這樣來談一次兩次三次我從八月底九月三號十月十八號談了幾次日期我都記得清清楚楚繼續 |
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你質詢啊 你質詢我啊我沒有質詢 我再回答你日期我都記得清清楚楚什麼時候談 發生什麼事情請問 哪一年 哪一月 哪一日羅志祥 傅坤琪還是任何人答應你那為什麼要拖到十月底 為什麼因為我答應在你們新主席選出來之後再來談你們也答應院長 誰答應啊 總要有個人吧名字見不得光啊 |
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你剛剛又說我沒答應 那好嘛可能是別人這個所謂的樂組代表答應了也許啊 把名字講出來啊你要有點承擔好不好我承擔什麼我答應了什麼我不願意講 你要有點承擔大家都知道我這邊公開授權你講啊 |
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我讓你講啊 今天羅志強答應你 我馬上辭立委拿出證據來好不好 今天羅志強拿出證據 羅志強答應你你不會辭院長 我也不會要求你啊因為你從來不會做這件事啊在這個國會的殿堂上面誠信才是最重要可是今天我看到院長你今天就是什麼白不染黑嘛 |
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白不染黑嘛我沒有答應你的事情你說一定要白紙黑字啊白紙黑字啊是沒有白紙黑字但是如果翻臉不認帳沒有白紙黑字就不算帳以後談什麼談啊謝謝你啊謝謝你啊真的謝謝你啊 |
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這樣都可以叫做翻臉不認帳如果有路人假憑空說你欸 總裁院長你說答應給我五千萬你不給我那你總裁院長說你白紙黑紙拿給我啊我說你翻臉不認帳啊這樣啊我們有沒有跟委員說過請國民黨黨團推薦兩人請國民黨黨團推薦兩個等於國民黨黨團就要搭進移民進黨提名的四個有這種事情嗎那時候就是一個 |
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談的就是這個樣子啊如果你認為各個黨團在這裡不能用這種談話的方式來形成一個共識大家來全力做的話 |
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你今天不想要今天任命人士你講那麼多沒有法律的理由我不想為什麼要請你們同名今天在立法院議員堂上你連個證據都拿不出來我羅志祥今天從政到現在最後就是誠信喔這麼簡單我不想讓中選會正常運作我今天答應的事情我沒做到我今天會站出來如果我不想讓中選會正常運作我就提七個讓你反對就好了最後我告訴院長啦結論很簡單嘛 |
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你都剛剛前面說我沒有答應又說不忍心公開我不知道你自己邏輯要怎麼圓嘛我說過了我不要再重複因為這個是 |
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做人還有基本的一點分寸跟把握我不需要再一直強負重複好不好兩院之間能夠代表兩院談話的就是兩個人那我談好了我希望中選會能夠正常的運作所以請你們推薦大家一起通過否則我不需要這樣子做我明明知道你們不會同意的話那我不會讓人數人通過嘛 |
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在你的國語辭典裡面 誠信兩個字完全改的啦只要一方說了 提了公文 提出訴求 背方就必須答應背方沒有沒做到就是背信我恭喜你啊 教育部趕快 有沒有教育部 教育委員會才會出來教育部趕快改國語辭典啦你有空回去看看當時整個媒體對你們太重最後一句話啦我真的是佩服大夥趕快說 國會官員可以說謊在這邊就公然說 |
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好 |