| IVOD_ID |
168182 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168182 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-26-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-01T14:41:48+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-01T14:51:49+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:01 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6ae3a98a11df106c16fe5370e9834b337570c8d4d2e9dc78b88717e2a81a321e2a1e36cdd7c250075ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
楊曜 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:41:48 - 14:51:49 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請勞動部部長、衛生福利部、原住民族委員會就「穩定原住民族就業、改善低薪與勞動權益保障，並縮小職業災害發生率及死亡率差距之執行現況與精進作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
邀請勞動部、衛生福利部就「開放家有十二歲以下子女家庭逕行申請外籍家事移工政策，對本國勞工就業、照顧體系負擔、兒童最佳利益及相關權益保障之衝擊評估與制度配套」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
邀請勞動部、衛生福利部、行政院、行政院人事行政總處、銓敘部、公務人員保障暨培訓委員會、法務部，就「職場霸凌申訴機制之檢討：以顏慧欣案為例，如何建構員工心理健康與職場保障機制」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
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謝謝主席主席請一下勞動部次長吧請陳次長楊委員好次長好是次長我先前就已經有初步跟洪部長討論過有關降低家有幼童可聘僱外籍幫傭資格限制的鬆綁的問題 |
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接下來也繼續跟你做相關的探討我們從去年8月份開始實施放寬80歲以上免82票就可以聘僱外籍看護移工即將上路的政策是降低家有幼童也可以聘僱外籍幫傭的資格 |
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那社會各界大概最有疑慮的就是會不會有移工挑工作的狀況那先請教次長從先前我們放寬80歲以上免80樣表以後看護移工的勞動市場有沒有產生移工挑工作的狀況 |
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這部分我們當然持續在做密切的注意我們也做一些相應的處理那其實移工最重要的問題是在他的勞動條件如何可以適度的去做提升至於去年80歲以上免評的情況出現那個大院通過之後我們在輕重的部分做了一些分流那重症的家庭基本上面我們都讓他一天之內就可以完成相應的審查一天啊 |
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我們在國內推介都會一天就完成審查 |
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我們審查的部分所以我們盡量在這樣一個政策放寬的情況底下不要影響到重症家庭的需求其實當初就是要80歲以上免巴士量表可以聘戶移工大家最大的疑慮就是這個政策也已經上路半年多了也就是說次長現在覺得並沒有 |
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並沒有產生移工挑工作我們會盡量降低這樣一個可能的發生你們怎麼降低第一個部分當然是我們在重症家庭會優先然後第二個部分就是說在國內如果移工要轉換雇主的時候我們在優先排序上面還是會以重症家庭優先 |
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那次長你們有沒有掌握到移工到了重症家庭可以工作多久?有沒有這個數據? |
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因為我們要觀察一個政策必須要從多面向去做觀察那剛剛剛好次長就回答到讓我想到這一點我們是不是應該要去我們回過頭再去看相關的資料因為移工基本上面我們在在聘僱是一次三年嘛那到底三年期滿的比例有多少有沒有辦法期滿 |
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期滿中間如果沒有期滿就轉出是因為看護的長者不幸往生還是有其他的相關的問題我們可以再做資料上的大數案對這個我們假如說要真的很嚴肅面對 |
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有沒有移工、挑工作的狀況產生必須要去研究他未滿三年就離職的實際原因我們才能夠做政策的調整好不好所以我在這邊 |
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提出一些問題你們假如說在這裡沒有答的很完整我基本上不大會為難你們可是你們回去真的必須要把它當作一個問題來認真面對好不好那現在我還是要提醒勞動部缺工是全球性的所以呢大概全球也就掀起了搶人大戰 |
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有媒體報導就是日本跟韓國併顧外籍移工其實在相關的配套利多政策的配套部分不管是薪資或者是取得永居的限制都優於台灣那會不會台灣這幾年之所以不缺工是因為台灣這幾年台幣相較於日幣韓元是強勢的 |
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我大概一個數據提供給次長相對疫情爆發的時候台幣對韓元的漲幅將近三成對日幣的漲幅大概38%可是呢所以也因為台幣強勢所以台灣 |
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目前在招工比較沒有那麼困難可是匯率是變動的假如匯率有翻轉勞動部有沒有什麼比較長遠一點的政策對於吸引移工的部分 |
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就移工的部分確實陳主委員所說全世界都在搶人日韓跟我們也都在競逐當中移工會選擇日韓或選擇台灣當然經濟因素是一個其他的因素也都有這部分會整體的來看以台灣目前來看我們對於這樣一個情況大概做幾件事 |
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第一個就是說持續提升相關的勞動條件然後第二個部分是去擴大來源國還有持續去優化國內雇主在人才移工招募的一些相應的過程那第三個就是讓外國的移工朋友進來台灣的時候得到比較友善的對待讓他的勞動條件可以比較 |
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比較可以得到適度的保障那這部分我們持續的跟來源國的政府都還有一直持續在精進相應的作為剛剛次長講的就是有一些必須要雇主配合有一些必須要來源國 |
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現在現有的勞動力輸出國來做協商那有關擴大來源國的部分這個就是全部主動權都在勞動部這裡你們現在方向是怎麼樣接觸了多少國家 |
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跟委員報告就是第一個部分我們在原來的移工來源國除了最早的移工之外我們現在在處理跨國技術人力的部分那跟幾個來源國都持續的在洽談當中也得到積極正面的回應那我們在菲律賓已經今年1月份去設了勞工組那目前正在處理相應的事務那第二個就是說去菲律賓設的是不是就是跨國勞動力延展中心 |
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跨國勞動力延攬中心是在台北這邊的專案辦公室在那邊我們是在我們駐馬尼拉經濟文化辦事處裡面在我們的外交處裡面專設一個勞工組我們有派駐人員現在在那邊積極協調相應的事情 |
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可是菲律賓本來就是我們的來源國原來是只有移工我們現在要擴大輸入相應的技術人力那第二個部分當然就是之前過去大家持續有在討論包括印度、柬埔寨我現在講的是這個部分 |
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這些其實外管有一些持續的評估其實包括但不限於這幾個國家但是這東西因為必須要涉及到國對國的基本的一個談判的understanding所以如果有比較具體的進展會跟大院來報告像印度基本上過去就簽了MOU所以相應的部分在積極的接洽當中 |
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時間也到了我向來不大喜歡佔用大家太多時間那相關的問題我們還是後續再來做討論不過 |
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部裡面也知道全球都在搶人所以有關勞動力的輸入怎麼保障已經進來的移工可以有一個很好的工作條件跟環境怎麼向外在原有的輸出國 |
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增加招募的能力也好或者是再找新的勞動力輸出國家也好這個是部裡面必須要趕快去做的好不好好 謝謝委員提醒我會朝這方向來努力好 謝謝次長 謝謝主席主席辛苦了好 謝謝楊耀偉委員質詢我是全院最後一個質詢的主席辛苦了好 謝謝 |