| IVOD_ID |
168175 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168175 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-01T13:32:20+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-01T13:38:52+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:32 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6ae3a98a11df106c3915359abd00ee54e62ad2ff7c694815b88717e2a81a321e6304fc2c5abcbb3c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:32:20 - 13:38:52 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。二、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就「清明連續假期疏運方案規劃」進行專題報告，並備質詢。三、審查委員許智傑等22人擬具「引水法第六條條文修正草案」案。【本次會議僅進行詢答】【4月1日及2日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 麻煩請部長謝謝請陳部長 |
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部長好委員好我們來關心一下我們選區的建設啦其實你應該知道我要問什麼因為我跟您提過很多次了從您剛上任的時候就是太阪輕軌啦您知道嘛建設不分藍綠啦當然但是這拖到太久了當時我有跟您提到太阪輕軌他是民進黨前交通部長王國才為了幫民進黨某一位立委助選跑到板橋開的政見 |
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跟大家講說我們要蓋太阪輕軌 社後支線這個是2024年之前王國才對板橋鄉親做的莊嚴承諾然後結果新北市政府也都很配合啊 積極啊112年開始5月3號就第一次提報然後後來來來回回來來回回已經到了第五次提報 |
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第五次提報是去年的十月十三號當時新北市政府很慎重由侯友宜市長主動召集里長還有民代然後到現場宣布這件事情來問大家的意見然後大家沒有意見就送出了結果去年十月到今天又半年過去了然後我得知道最新的進度是交通部在二月份的時候又退回了 |
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那退回的理由我跟部長報告因為部長你日語萬機啦你可能不會了解到那麼多重大建設啦他的理由是因為太阪輕軌它幾個路段把它改成高架那我想局長會知道改成高架的原因是因為要提升行駛的速率因為它有時候可能會遇到一些失智路口 |
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那如果說高架的話他就可以避開這些十字路口然後所以提高這些速率然後讓這一個可行性可以更高嘛這是一件好事嘛結果鐵道局又回覆就說請新北市政府說明一下新增這兩段高架路段的必要性必要性我跟你講了就這樣 |
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然後再來就是說我不懂說人家十月份送這個過來哇 你提這個問題你要開這麼久的會你要開四個月的會然後問了一個大災問了一個那麼籠統的問題 |
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這個難免會讓人家覺得你在卡啦因為如果說絕對不會卡你放心這個不會卡不是啦不要講一套錯一套我說難免讓人家覺得我剛剛講的意思是說人家十月就送來了然後結果審了四鐵道局要審的案子同時要審查案子非常多審了四個月然後只是回了這一個問題欸不只這個問題然後差不多啦部長這個還是要跟你拜託 |
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好不好這個是王博才部長的莊嚴承諾謝謝王博才他都已經下來不知道已經幾任部長了然後那個時候我們在地方開會的時候民進黨立委因為板橋有兩個立委嘛另外一位啦然後他說哇那時候交通部啊都已經講了社後輕軌的什麼路啊都已經指明是哪一條路了錢都準備好了新北市怎麼沒有做這個社後輕軌我現在講的是主線都沒有過啦還要支線耶 |
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主線的可行性研究都沒過那你怎麼承諾嘛你現在讓我們的感覺是說你這個效益很低啊沒什麼可行性啊那幹嘛一定要蓋咧現在感覺就這樣嘛那如果是這種態度的話那當時王國才為什麼來跟大家講說要蓋社後輕軌然後按照民進黨立委的說法是錢都準備好了路都指明了欸局長我先問一下請問一下他當時是指哪一條路社後輕軌是指哪一條路 |
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報告委員這個我可能要再了解一下所以沒這件事是不是所以那個立委也在隨便亂講然後說錢都準備好請問是錢是準備多少不是啦報告委員那個立委說錢都準備好錢是準備多少一條歸一條啦這一條呃太阪輕軌的部分他的問題我們要去面對跟解決先把這一條解決完之後我們再來談我沒有我沒有第一個齁不然我沒有說不要解決我沒有說啊很潦草但是這個時程嘛時程嘛 |
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一百一十二年五月三號就已經提了然後到現在已經一百一十五年也快五月三號了已經過三年了不過報告委員他裡面有一些修改您剛剛也提到你可以快一點嗎我跟你講任何報告都是會有修改來來回回這我們都知道您在部裡面有一些公文你叫下面的人重送也都OK重點是時程嘛是 |
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315.684 |
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當然會來來回回啊那如果按照你的理由的話十年夠不夠給你十年夠不夠反正都會來來回回嘛那難道你不能夠找一些方法是讓他來來回回的時間縮短嗎或者來來回回的頻率降低嗎部長如果說你願意做一定是可以啊所以我現在就是告訴你說地方給我們的回答如果是符合鐵道局的審議會議裡面所要求的那當然所以交通部現在站的 |
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態度就是把你東西給我啦OK的話我就過不OK我就叫你改你現在是比較被動的態度嘛OK這件事是看專業的態度你是比較被動的態度那我已經講了這是交通部長的莊嚴承諾所以你應該是化被動為主動積極的去解決這個問題我的態度很簡單我們會積極希望能夠解決這個問題這也必須要地方政府能夠配合地方政府很配合不然的話交通部會讓人家感覺王國才部長在 |
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為了選舉亂開支票然後我們另外一區民進黨立委也是為了選舉亂開支票所以你做這個事情是不分藍綠的不分藍綠的主線是在我們那邊沒錯但是支線在另外一個我們一起來爭取所以今天把這個問題凸顯出來我真的覺得太久了啦真的太久了可以加快速度嗎部長 局長可以願意願意協助嗎願意化被動為主動嗎 |
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我們一直都很願意 願意發揮不是說看他不OK不OK就過 不OK就繼續啊不要這種態度啦好不好 部長我們謝謝葉委員那下一次接下來可不可以主動聯絡一下然後趕快讓他過可不可以因為趙偉也是民意代表 趙偉很懂瞭解我們多次的會議啦我們開很多次會議 盡力努力啦 好不好盡力努力 好 謝謝 |