| IVOD_ID |
168151 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168151 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-01T11:57:57+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-01T12:08:17+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:20 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6ae3a98a11df106c3b0dcd7524819f07e62ad2ff7c694815994a069f48f295f30cc001442e8e29285ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許智傑 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:57:57 - 12:08:17 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。二、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就「清明連續假期疏運方案規劃」進行專題報告，並備質詢。三、審查委員許智傑等22人擬具「引水法第六條條文修正草案」案。【本次會議僅進行詢答】【4月1日及2日二天一次會】） |
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好 謝謝主席我們請部長跟公路局長請陳部長請公路局局長 |
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委員好部長好那個台86這個我有跟局長討論過了啦那就是說這整個我們的建設其實是非常的重要所以需要部長再給我們侃奉一下那就是說我們高雄東高雄就是往台南這邊以前都是走縣道 |
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就是市道啦 現在是182那現在就是說我們需要說如果說台86可以銜接上的話對於東高雄從內門往台南這樣子的互動事實上非常的有幫助所以現在的進度就是說是不是請部長跟局長公開給我們砍縫一下預計 |
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2028開始動工2034可以完工嗎這個部分是不是請那個局長先說明一下首先我跟委員報告一下就是說這個台86前面一段大概就是說跨過台16甲連接這個國道3號那委員講的是後半段就是說這個在過去跟這個182然後到這個屏東這個內門這個地方 |
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那這個案子目前這個中規已經這個定案了那目前是在做這個環評的審查那環評審查的部分上次有一些意見我們是希望說在6月可以通過這個環評那6月通過環評我們希望這個就是說這個臨底可以提報這個 |
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整個10層的規劃的話上次大概也跟委員這個報告大概前面一段因為前面一段那個現在建設計畫是在院裡面待這個核定那那個部分的預估完工時間是121年那後半段這個部分的話預計完工時間是122年 |
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122年所以還有7年所以跟部長報告一下就是其實東高雄我一直在推動東高雄的觀光跟交通跟醫療的提升那就是說東高雄現在像我們內門現在那邊有個動物學校其實那個是那個 |
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場景式的觀察而不是只是去看動物園它是去體驗所以東高雄包括我們的假日 |
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就是包括內門動物學校 包括祁山老街 包括美濃客家文化甚至再到裡面茂林紫斑蝶等等的相關的寶萊的溫泉那這些其實可以做一個整體的套裝的規劃那當然這個我們也有跟公共署在要求說怎麼樣有機會把茂林國家風水區延伸到整個東高雄 |
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那當然現在比較重要的就是說交通要先通暢就是說在這個台88這一條線其實對東高雄的發展非常的重要所以剛剛局長也有跟大家報告過也請部長能夠大力支持好 我們全力來推動 速度加快 |
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那另外就是說包括這個有沒有機會台灣好行因為東高雄的觀光事實上它的交通真的是比較不容易比如說你如果要去寶萊的話可能你要到旗山轉運站再轉六龜再轉寶萊 |
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那像這個一個溫泉特區如果有機會我們來開發的話就是說能夠讓這個交通先行才有辦法所以是不是請部長也指示署長跟局長重視我們這邊的交通跟觀光 |
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是我們針對整體的交通,除了硬體建設之外,您剛剛所提到的公共運輸的部分,我們應該要來關注那台灣好行的路線,或許我們可以檢討一下,如果真的有這樣子的觀光的資源在那個地方,我們也希望說公共運輸可以到達我想這個是雞生蛋、蛋生雞的問題啦就是說目前就是說,當然他一直覺得還有提升的空間 |
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那當然就是在地的整個設施要去加強之外,其實交通就是一個非常重要的路線所以是不是有機會就是說我們的台86之外,台灣好行這邊公路局可以先協助台灣好行應該是公共署這邊我們請公共署這邊來協助 |
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謝謝委員提問 上次我們也有討論到這件事情確實在交通的部分 確實是能讓大家到的景點加上東高雄那相關的觀光資源也非常的豐富那這個部分我們現在是請報館處這邊一起在來提出申請跟所有相關的評估跟怎麼去做串聯 以上先做調查之前我提到有沒有可能把貿易國家貨幣區把東高雄通通納入 |
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這個上次因為委員一直很關心這個項目 對不對那我們說這件事情要再跟高雄市政府還有屏東縣政府一起討論要由地方政府提出來然後這個才能進入到我們的程序裡面來 |
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所以地方政府先提你們是後面地方政府要先提OK好那我再跟地方溝通一下謝謝好那這個東高雄就拜託那個署長跟局長多幫忙部長就盡量點頭就好好這個東高雄的支持很重要好那再來就是那個我們的那個交通交易園區這個也公路局也不簡單啦事實上台灣現在設了兩個地方嘛 |
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北台灣在桃園那南台灣是在高雄我們鳳山監理所的所在地那這個已經做好了嘛還沒有啟用 |
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是的原則上大概做好了那之前高雄區監獄所是試營運那最近大概我去看我跟我們曾經是有去看了一次那裡面有一些標線可能要再做一個調整那目前我是請局裡面的教官組再幫忙做一個調整那有些東西有這個脫落的部分我們重新再做一個處理完之後那我想 |
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這個我們再規劃一個這個時間然後這個邀請委員一起來做這個邀請部長一起來不是 正式啟用一定會跟委員報告邀請委員的那個一起來參與我想在這個之前我希望說很多配套交通部可能也必須要思考 |
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因為這個部分其實日本的教育你看日本的兒童過馬路都會舉手部長知道嗎是 我知道這個已經養成習慣你看台灣人小朋友過馬路有沒有都舉手比較沒有現在開始有一些小朋友會舉手所以這個就是從其實這個交通安全其實教育是從小慢慢的小時候走路再來 |
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讀國中可能騎腳踏車吧再來騎摩托車這個其實你從小就培養這樣子一個教育的觀念交通教育的觀念這個對於整體這個是後面長久會影響的所以我是覺得我們這個交通公園是不是交通部有跟教育部有結合去思考一些怎麼樣去推動兒童交通教育而不是說這個設施做好了如果沒有跟教育部結合有可能去的人還是不多 |
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跟我也報告一下目前大概就是因為美國交通公園所在還是有地域性這一個可及的一個課題所以目前大概就是說有我們在地譬如說像在桃園建立站的部分的話大概是新出所跟大桃園地區的一個幼稚園教學學校的教學來相結合 |
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那目前在這個高雄區建議所的這個部分的話也是跟高雄大高雄地區來做這個部分的一個結合那剛剛委員所提到的我想局裡面這邊再來跟教育部相關單位就是說有一些中央比較一致性的原則的一個部分的話我們跟教育部再來做一個所以你們還沒跟教育部接觸像委員報告以桃園為案例我們不是跟教育部這邊來做接觸跟合作是跟地方的教育局 |
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那地方的教育局他們就會找在地的例如說小學或者是幼兒園一起來這個園區裡面做交通案例所以現在有跟高雄市教育局聯絡了嗎那高雄的部分我們如果正式要啟動的時候也會跟地方的教育局來做合作那目前我看已經試辦了15場嘛要辦15場這15場應該也是有跟他們做聯繫 |
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所以我是提醒就是我們交通部就是公務局這個要跟教育單位交通甚至市府也有交通局就是市政府的相關單位我們要動就一起動這樣子才會把那個效果發揮到最高好 謝謝最後那個 |
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陰水法陰水法部長應該了解這個部分那個航港局也很幫忙就是說要發展我們地方高雄的遊艇觀光事實上這個也是在地的需求所以就是我們提出這個遊艇觀光就是飲水一千噸以下事實上你不用讓這個遊艇事實上他吃水很淺 |
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所以這個部分我想我們也希望說交通部可以支持那航港局在這個交通安全的維護上有沒有什麼問題 |
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報告委員這個部分我們會支持一千噸以下的這個遊艇外極遊艇不需要強制飲水這個部分我們會支持OK那這個就是希望說香港局跟交通部能夠盡力協助是好沒問題那包括那個安全的我認為也很重要可能要相關的配套要把它想好好謝謝委員OK好謝謝 |
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許委員智傑 |
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謝謝主席，我們請部長跟公路局局長。 |
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主席 |
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請陳部長、公路局林局長。 |
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陳部長世凱 |
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委員好。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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部長好。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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台86線這個我有跟局長討論過了，就是說這整個建設其實是非常的重要，所以需要部長再給我們confirm一下。 |
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陳部長世凱 |
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1 |
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是，沒問題。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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我們的東高雄，就是往臺南這邊以前都是走市道，現在是市道182號，現在如果台86線可以銜接上的話，對於東高雄從內門往臺南這樣子的互動，事實上非常的有幫助。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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所以現在的進度是不是請部長跟局長公開給confirm一下，預計2028年開始動工，2034年可以完工嗎？ |
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許委員智傑 |
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這個部分是不是請局長先說明一下。 |
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林局長福山 |
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首先我跟委員報告一下，台86線前面一段大概就是跨過台19甲線連接國道三號，委員講的是後半段，就是再過去跟182線然後到屏東內門這個地方。 |
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林局長福山 |
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這個案子目前綜規已經定案了，現在是在做環評的審查，環評審查的部分上次有一些意見，我們是希望在6月可以通過環評，年底可以提報建設計畫。 |
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林局長福山 |
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整個時程的規劃，上次大概也跟委員報告，因為前面一段的建設計畫是在院裡面待核定，那部分預估完工時間是121年。 |
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林局長福山 |
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後半段這個部分的話，預計完工時間是122年。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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122年，所以還有7年。對。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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所以跟部長報告一下，其實我一直在推動東高雄的觀光、交通跟醫療的提升，現在東高雄內門那邊有個動物學校，其實那個是沉浸式的觀察，而不是只是去看動物園，可以去體驗。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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所以東高雄在假日，包括內門動物學校、旗山老街、美濃客家文化，甚至再到裡面的茂林紫斑蝶等等，還有相關的寶來溫泉，這些其實可以做一個整體的套裝規劃。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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當然這個我們也有跟觀光署要求，看怎麼樣有機會把茂林國家風景區延伸到整個東高雄。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-01T12:01:23.404000+08:00 |
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當然現在比較重要的就是交通要先通暢，所以台88這一條線其實對東高雄的發展非常的重要，剛剛局長也有跟大家報告過，也請部長能夠大力支持。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
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2026-04-01T12:01:23.664000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-04-01T12:01:25.745000+08:00 |
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好，我們全力來推動，速度加快。對。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-01T12:01:26.365000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-04-01T12:01:30.090000+08:00 |
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另外，就是包括有沒有機會「台灣好行」？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-01T12:01:30.951000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:01:58.784000+08:00 |
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因為東高雄的觀光，事實上它的交通真的是比較不容易，比如說你要去寶來的話，可能要到旗山轉運站，再轉六龜、再轉寶來，像這個溫泉特區如果有機會來開發的話，就是要讓交通先行才有辦法，所以是不是請部長也指示署長跟局長重視我們這邊的交通跟觀光。 |
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0.972 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
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2026-04-01T12:01:59.344000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:02:05.109000+08:00 |
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是，我們針對整體的交通，除了硬體建設之外，您剛剛所提到的公共運輸的部分，我們也應該要來關注。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.976 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
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2026-04-01T12:02:06.050000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-04-01T12:02:14.256000+08:00 |
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「台灣好行」的路線或許我們可以檢討一下，如果真的有這樣子的觀光資源在那個地方，我們也希望公共運輸可以到達。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.979 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-04-01T12:02:14.256000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-04-01T12:02:17.099000+08:00 |
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我想這個是雞生蛋，蛋生雞的問題啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-01T12:02:17.819000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:02:37.059000+08:00 |
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就是說目前一直覺得還有提升的空間，那當然就是在地的整個設施要去加強之外，其實交通就是一個非常重要的路線，所以是不是有機會我們的台86線之外，「台灣好行」這邊公路局可以先協助？ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-04-01T12:02:38.801000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:02:42.525000+08:00 |
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「台灣好行」應該是觀光署這邊，我們請觀光署來協助。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.762 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
陳署長玉秀 |
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2026-04-01T12:02:46.965000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:03:06.244000+08:00 |
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謝謝委員提問，上次我們也有討論到這件事情，在交通的部分確實是能讓大家到的景點，加上東高雄相關的觀光資源也非常的豐富，這個部分我們現在是請茂管處一起再來提出申請，跟所有的相關的評估以及怎麼去做串聯，以上報告。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-04-01T12:03:06.804000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-04-01T12:03:11.449000+08:00 |
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之前我提到有沒有可能把茂林國家風景區把東高雄統統納入？ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
陳署長玉秀 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-04-01T12:03:13.536000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-04-01T12:03:28.248000+08:00 |
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因為委員一直很關心這個項目，我們是說這件事情要再跟高雄市政府，還有屏東縣政府一起討論，要由地方政府提出來，然後這個才能進入到我們的程序裡面來。 |
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0.985 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-04-01T12:03:29.129000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-04-01T12:03:31.411000+08:00 |
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所以地方政府先提，你們是後面？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
陳署長玉秀 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-04-01T12:03:31.591000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-04-01T12:03:32.531000+08:00 |
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地方政府要先提。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-04-01T12:03:33.152000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-04-01T12:03:35.353000+08:00 |
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好，我再跟地方溝通一下。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-04-01T12:03:36.053000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-04-01T12:03:45.619000+08:00 |
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東高雄就拜託署長跟局長多幫忙，部長就儘量點頭就好，這個對高雄的支持很重要。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-04-01T12:03:45.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-04-01T12:03:46.720000+08:00 |
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是，全力推動。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-04-01T12:03:46.720000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-04-01T12:03:53.904000+08:00 |
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好，再來就是我們的交通教育園區，這個公路局也不簡單啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-04-01T12:03:54.645000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-04-01T12:04:06.106000+08:00 |
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事實上臺灣現在設了兩個地方，北臺灣在桃園，南臺灣在高雄鳳山監理所的所在地。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-04-01T12:04:06.988000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-04-01T12:04:07.669000+08:00 |
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這個已經做好了嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-04-01T12:04:08.992000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-04-01T12:04:09.332000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
還沒有啟用？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
林局長福山 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-04-01T12:04:10.531000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-04-01T12:04:24.704000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
是的，跟委員報告，原則上大概做好了，之前高雄區監理所是試營運，最近我跟陳政次有去看了一次，那裡面有一些標線可能要再做一些調整。 |
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0.825 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
林局長福山 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-04-01T12:04:25.225000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:04:40.161000+08:00 |
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目前我是請局裡面的交管組再幫忙做一個調整，有些東西有脫落的部分，我們重新再處理完之後，我想我們再規劃一個時間，然後邀請委員一起來做開幕。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.937 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-04-01T12:04:40.801000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-04-01T12:04:41.683000+08:00 |
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這個要請部長一起來。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-04-01T12:04:42.444000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-04-01T12:04:46.549000+08:00 |
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正式啟用一定會跟委員報告，邀請委員一起來參與。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-04-01T12:04:46.549000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:05:00.601000+08:00 |
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我想在這個之前，我希望很多配套交通部可能也必須要思考，因為這個部分其實日本的教育，你看日本的兒童過馬路都會舉手，部長知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-04-01T12:05:00.601000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-04-01T12:05:01.141000+08:00 |
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是，我知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-04-01T12:05:03.202000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-04-01T12:05:06.503000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
他們這個已經養成習慣，你看臺灣小朋友過馬路有沒有都舉手？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-04-01T12:05:08.003000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-04-01T12:05:09.064000+08:00 |
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比較沒有啦！很少。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-04-01T12:05:10.384000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-04-01T12:05:12.105000+08:00 |
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現在開始有一些小朋友會舉手。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-04-01T12:05:13.705000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:05:33.177000+08:00 |
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對，其實交通安全教育是從小慢慢的養成，從小時候走路，再來讀國中可能騎腳踏車吧，再來騎摩托車，從小就培養交通教育的觀念，對於整體後面長久會有影響的啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.91 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-04-01T12:05:33.897000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:05:48.181000+08:00 |
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所以我是覺得我們這個交通公園，是不是交通部有跟教育部結合去思考怎麼樣去推動兒童交通教育，而不是說這個設施做好了，如果沒有跟教育部結合，有可能去的人還是不多。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
林局長福山 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-04-01T12:05:50.480000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-04-01T12:06:17.471000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告一下，目前大概就是因為每個交通公園所在還是有地域性可及的課題，所以目前大概就是由我們在地的，比如說像在桃園監理站的部分，大概就是新竹所跟大桃園地區的幼稚園教學、學校教學來相結合；目前在高雄區監理所的部分，也是跟大高雄地區來做這個部分的結合。 |
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0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
林局長福山 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-04-01T12:06:18.691000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-04-01T12:06:28.656000+08:00 |
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剛剛委員所提到的，我想局裡面再來跟教育部相關單位，針對有一些中央比較一致性的原則部分，再來做一個討論。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.915 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-04-01T12:06:28.656000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:06:31.137000+08:00 |
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對，所以你們還沒跟教育部接觸？ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-04-01T12:06:31.318000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-04-01T12:06:44.823000+08:00 |
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向委員報告，以桃園為案例，我們不是跟教育部來做接觸跟合作，是跟地方的教育局，那地方的教育局就會找在地的，例如小學或者是幼兒園一起來這個園區裡面做交通…… |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.986 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-04-01T12:06:45.083000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-04-01T12:06:46.604000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
所以現在有跟高雄市教育局聯絡了嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-04-01T12:06:46.664000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:06:53.166000+08:00 |
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高雄的部分，正式啟動的時候，也會跟地方的教育局來合作，目前我看已經試辦了15場，要辦15場，這15場應該也是有跟他們做聯繫。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-04-01T12:06:58.168000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:07:13.142000+08:00 |
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所以我是提醒我們交通部公路局要跟教育單位，甚至市府也有交通局，就是市政府的相關單位，我們要動就一起動，這樣子才會把那個效果發揮到最高。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.984 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-04-01T12:07:13.142000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-04-01T12:07:14.142000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
沒問題，沒問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-01T12:07:13.343000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:07:13.463000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-01T12:07:13.463000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:07:23.412000+08:00 |
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最後還有一個，我大概說一下就好了，引水法部長應該了解吧？了解。 |
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0.407 |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-01T12:07:24.673000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:07:30.978000+08:00 |
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這個部分航港局也很幫忙，就是說要發展我們地方，高雄的遊艇觀光。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-01T12:07:31.999000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:07:52.795000+08:00 |
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事實上這個也是在地的需求，所以我們提出遊艇觀光，就是引水一千噸以下，事實上它吃水很淺，所以這個部分我們也希望交通部可以支持，航港局在這個交通的安全維護上有沒有什麼問題？ |
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0.962 |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-04-01T12:07:55.559000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:08:03.662000+08:00 |
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報告委員，這個部分我們會支持，一千噸以下的外籍遊艇不需要強制引水，這個部分我們會支持。 |
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0.949 |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-01T12:08:05.043000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:08:08.444000+08:00 |
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這個就是希望航港局跟交通部能夠盡力協助。 |
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0.947 |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-04-01T12:08:08.904000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:08:09.345000+08:00 |
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好，沒問題。 |
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許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-01T12:08:09.885000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:08:14.407000+08:00 |
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包括安全的維護也很重要，可能要有相關的配套，要把它想好。 |
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0.88 |
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陳部長世凱 |
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2026-04-01T12:08:14.947000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:08:15.987000+08:00 |
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是，我們會做好，謝謝委員。 |
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0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
許委員智傑 |
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2026-04-01T12:08:16.588000+08:00 |
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2026-04-01T12:08:16.608000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝。 |
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1 |
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主席 |
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2026-04-01T12:08:17.108000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-01T12:08:19.679429+08:00 |
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我們謝謝許智傑委員。 |
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主席 |
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2026-04-01T12:08:19.979429+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-04-01T12:08:23.979429+08:00 |
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接下來我們邀請洪毓祥委員發言。 |
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0 |