| IVOD_ID |
168149 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168149 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-01T11:36:24+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-01T11:46:11+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:47 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6ae3a98a11df106ce61ad26bb31cb666e62ad2ff7c694815994a069f48f295f30cc001442e8e29285ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱若華 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:36:24 - 11:46:11 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。二、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就「清明連續假期疏運方案規劃」進行專題報告，並備質詢。三、審查委員許智傑等22人擬具「引水法第六條條文修正草案」案。【本次會議僅進行詢答】【4月1日及2日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 主席先請台灣高鐵池澤董事長我們請高鐵總經理我們請總經理 |
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總經理好 那今天要跟你討論的是剛才稍早稍微今天也有提出關心嘛就是那本席這邊有看到2025年高鐵的全年運量是8207萬人次那高鐵平均每日的運量是也有高達22萬人次嘛 |
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我們最近也看到國際機場2026年它最新的入境人數是418萬出境也有432萬春節連假當日也超過16萬人次228的連假也有15萬人次不管是通勤還是前往桃園機場很多民眾都是選擇搭乘高鐵列車搭行行李方式空間不足的問題長期也普遍存在著民怨 |
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那尤其是在連續假期還有國際觀光復甦後還有桃園機場往返的旅客嘛那民眾他攜帶28吋以上的行李箱那場面臨沒有地方可以放載用總道也影響了動線那很多乘客也反映嘛大型行李區被小型行李站住那想請問高鐵那現在能放的行李件數有多少 |
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跟委員報告一下我們現在舊的車原來是35我們已經增加到45了目前來講我們在新車還沒導致之前新車可以到100、110我們舊車準備要改到80現在目前正在進行準備要改到80什麼時候可以改到80 |
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我們預計在今年年底看能不能蓋完因為現在目前來講我們車子只能利用非健康時段才能夠現在很明顯的就是已經不符合旅運的需求了嘛那單日也有六到七萬人次就是搭乘台灣高鐵那你們有沒有去住過機場旅客攜帶大型行李的比例 |
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這個分析我們自己是有分析那目前來講其實我們現在目前最大的問題是很多的旅客的行李28吋都把它放在那個行李架裡面那這一部分我們在行李架其實我們都有貼標示在我看到今年你們也有公告嗎就是小型行李應該要放在座位的上方然後行李不得載用走道車門那你們有沒有再去做宣傳跟教育民眾呢有有有這個都有在公布那效果如何 |
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效果還是平均現象因為我看到你們今年二月份在臉書上面的宣導上面的按讚數一百四十二個留言數三折分享的次數是七次那總共的觀看次數是八千五百四十九次那面對每天都有那麼多民眾搭乘高鐵那我們這邊要怎麼來去提升再加強宣導呢 |
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我們其實我們現場現場我們就有有那個是要保全嗎還有我們的列車長胡靖遠其實有看到這種情況的時候也會會陷倒所以我搭乘的時候有碰過這樣的問題嗎那變成就是說他們小型行李那變成說列車的乘務員他們還要再去找旅客看就是大型行李他們已經沒有地方放了放在座位前面他們還要再告訴民眾去放到大型行李放置處可是問題就是沒有地方放 |
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我們從4月1號以後我們在車上有一個就是 |
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那個QR Code就是有需要列車長服務的時候就可以透過那個QR Code 因為我還要上去你們的APP上面看嘛那你們APP上面確實是沒有在做宣導這一塊那臉書上面那明顯的這個宣傳效果也沒有很好那是不是還可以透過其他的方式所以今天向高鐵了解可以 這部分我們會再加強那再請加強教育跟宣導民眾讓民眾就是不要把小型行李一上車就放置在大型行李的放置處那這邊再請我們交通部陳部長好 請陳部長 |
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委員好 部長好 部長在上週3月26號行政院會 桃園市的蘇俊斌副市長他有特別提出防狼三件之子 當前的脫掉蟑螂橫行那關於脫掉蟑螂 部長您怎麼看 |
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對 報告委員這是非常不好的一個行為啦那過去在我們的這個高速公路也曾經發生過類似的問題所以這幾年我們在高速公路也好或者是省道也好我們都已經有一個比較標準化的定型化契約在執行那我認為那是很好的範例所以我們交通部也決定說要來協助所有的地方趕快來修訂這個定型化契約 |
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不得記載事項並希望能夠建立全國統一的收費標準部長這項工作將會如何是可以完成這個不一定有辦法全國制定一個統一的標準因為每個地方的成本不一定一樣但是我們希望每個地方政府都可以訂定出適合他們當地的一個收費標準我們昨天已經開了第一次會議就是全國各縣市大家一起來開這個會議以我們高速公路跟公路總局 |
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他們審到上面的這個定型化契約應記載及不得記載事項的這個範例來做一個推演我們希望各縣市都能夠定出來因為現在消費者遇到這樣的糾紛那只能去尋求消保官嘛那地方政府也遇到這樣的問題那所以蘇俊斌副市長他特別提到嘛那包括要修改消保法然後賦予執法人員讓他們可以盡以裁罰的權利那交通部有沒有針對這個跟內政部然後還有其他相關的部會討論 |
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報告委員這個部分我們目前應該還沒有跟他們來做溝通那希望可以針對這一點交通部就是跟其他部會一起進行討論因為目前熱線室的消防官他們只能獨自的去面對特殊背景的業者嘛那所以希望部長您提到就是全國統一有一個困難那是不是可以透過修法呢 |
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修法的部分我們會先匯集大家地方政府大家的意見我們在昨天有開過會議了或許已經有些意見的整合那如果有需要我們交通部這邊來協助去溝通其他部會那我們也嘗試看看來做溝通因為現在就是沒有明確的收費的基準所以法院跟消防官他就沒有辦法去認定業者是否有涉及暴力所以我這邊我也提出希望交通部可以比照我們是希望是不是可以比照 |
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快速道路跟高速公路的救援標準跟委員報告昨天其實我們大概都有找地方政府來做一個討論那我們也有告訴地方政府說為什麼我們沒有辦法訂一個統一的標準 |
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因為每個地方的特性真的差異很大那我們訂那個應記載不得記載事項的目的呢就是希望說地方政府能夠依照他的特性來訂定不同的一個收費標準然後來做他後續執法的一個依據那另外在那個那個消保法裡面其實對於只要有違規的部分其實現在的處分就已經甚至已經可以到停業的部分所以這個部分消保法已經有一個 |
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規範可以做出因為前面一段都是要求他們限期改善嘛限期改善不完成的話也是可以去做停止他的產品的一個規定就是簡單說就是他必須做停業的動作那我們也如果說他被其實在這個停業動作之前他們都已經不知道坑殺了多少民眾了嘛那我們這邊是不是那我們拖掉收費的指引呢是不是能夠落實一個定型化契約 |
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因為我們因記載不得記載事項裡面就會有包括所有的項目就是說哪些可以收費的項目我們都會訂在裡面那超出這些項目的部分就不能去收費那昨天當然有一番討論大概大家有不同的意見我們還會持續收集大家的意見就項目的部分會再去因記載不得記載事項裡面再做一些訂定跟釐定那超出這些項目的部分原則上就是不能再去 |
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召開第一次會議那我這邊後續也會持續關心那這邊好那也請部長重視這個問題那部長接著請教那麼談到桃園國際機場那最新的雅虎民調它有顯示超過六成的民眾都支持機場開放多元計程車那在數位轉型之下呢那日本的成田機場韓國仁川機場還有新加坡的仗義機場他們都已經提供了多元的接送選擇民眾可以用APP來叫車 |
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那交通部目前規劃是一一六年要在松山還有小港機場事辦可是旅運量最大的桃園機場卻沒有在事辦名單那什麼時候可以納入桃園機場是請局長先跟委員報告有關這個開放事辦那因為每個機場特性不同因為譬如說松山機場它位在市區那高雄地區的話高雄機場因為它對於南部台南等等的 |
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那有一些需求那桃園機場其實它本身有自立委員會那你們要試辦之前都有進行過評估嗎基本上我們內部有先評估一下那可是因為這是一個試辦計畫所以我們是認為說是先從高雄機場來先試辦那各自的評估條件可能桃機公司這邊也可以再進一步評估這個部分 |
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那我們初步在做的時候 基本上法規是可以容納每個機場根據他的需求去做不同的事辦計畫那希望過去也可以拿到桃園機場然後你們也去針對桃園機場來做一個評估報告好不好好 這個部分我們就再跟桃機來一起討論好 非常感謝邱若驊委員 |