| IVOD_ID |
168116 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168116 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-01T10:20:26+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-01T10:28:32+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:06 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6ae3a98a11df106ce32e657d79d48f2f8b964e64394a70074047e563c2ae1609a854e45adebac5195ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林月琴 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:20:26 - 10:28:32 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請客家委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人客家公共傳播基金會董事長列席報告業務概況（含上會期臨時提案辦理情形），並備質詢。【4月1日及2日二天一次會】） |
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我非常肯定這兩個政策的 |
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但我認為這兩個政策應該是從規模的擴張走向我們的實質的深化 |
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首先我要肯定 客委會這幾年的努力 包括財富戰確實做出規模了不過今年3月已經增加到611站 特別是在苗栗 桃園 新竹這幾個客家的重點區那個網路也非常的密 客委會也持續我們擴張高齡照顧的場域 值得認同可是我要特別提醒主委 |
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包括這副站已經不是一個事半的階段而是正式納入到長照3.0的核心政策當規模做到後我們必須面對兩個嚴肅的問題一個是實際的照顧的人數 二是那個預算被稀釋所以主委站點在擴張可是每個站分配的資源在縮水如何確保這611站的服務品質不被稀釋而不是被淪為西極巷弄的一個長照站多掛一個牌子而已 |
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那是很務實的,不然我們就會減少占點 |
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這個是很兩難的決策所謂站點要夠淺才有辦法做到一定的規模所以外界常有疑慮認為博工照護站跟衛福部的西級的長照站高度重疊雖然地方回應有增加課宇的志工老幼共學等元素可是我們還是要講清楚博工照護站究竟只是文化加值的據點還是在高齡支持體系中 |
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有補上的其他部會做不到的哪些不可替代的一個功能先跟VM報告我們博工照護站還是要架構在衛福部西級相當據點之上有這個基本我們才有才能夠來申請這是第一個第二個是我們英文這語言是很有魔力很有魅力很有溫暖的 |
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那這個語言是長輩習慣的語言那通常那個教師用他要學發他熟悉的語言他的那個信任感,他的各種的會增加很多所以你意思是說,白宮政府在老十幾年沒有強調那是英文語言 |
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以你贊助這個政府的方式我們看到目前市級相當照顧站有各部份用的比如說我們今年試著要將繪本導入這個照顧的方式所以有批本、有合法、有疏寫的、速錄的再來就是歐益本、我們的帳篇 |
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也有它的自主性 自主的可能所以 也要讓另外一個人替大家撥分 做到抵押上來的也希望 也要提出三個具體的要求一個月內 實際上希望 主委這邊可以提交功能深化跟品質的精進報告因為我覺得還是要去做一些區隔 |
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主委剛剛講說有些語言的功能我們還是希望能夠在如何補助在受壓縮的狀況下如果達成2026的服務人數的目標還有我覺得還是要去釐清跨部會的協力機制否則這兩個人家會分不太清楚還有預算的指標的轉型就是說不是只有我們的站點數而且要增列到底服務的總人數跟資源不足的補強的 |
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主要的那個成果是什麼再來我們就要來問客家幣因為我覺得這也事實上是人做得不錯的地方因為客委會推客家幣的那個方向我認為事實上是有政策上的一個意義在不僅鼓勵到我們的客語的傳承也為了那個活絡客庄的一個經濟可是有兩個目標的情況下我覺得下一步是不是要更要把這個政策的那個排序講得清楚所以想問主委客家幣已經進入到2.0階段了 |
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在講客生活圈的這個大方向下哪些語言傳承的核心設計哪些是店家上線支付工具跟核銷系統的配套工作感謝美燕其實它在2.0還有它再提出的因為1.0它是具有稅籍的店家才可以申請但是2.0加入自然人 |
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也會這樣,因為我們看到在合同上,不只是傳統的市場,還會有自然人在做交易,所以我們應該用英語納進來,擴大講課的範圍,還有交易範圍,所以部分很不一樣的。 |
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地推人員讓自然人進來自然人會懷疑你是不是詐騙集團所以要透過在地熟悉的網路地推人員去宣導這個不是 |
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然後來協助鄉村、學總、學總提起要數位能力支付比較差的長輩而且他又是所謂的商店方的人主委可是你今年也提到未來客家幣可能朝開放全年齡逐步放寬店家範圍就不再限定客庄的店家的方向 |
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我覺得這個政策延伸真的要去討論因為我也諮詢那個客委會這個做法未來能不能守住把人帶進那個客庄讓客語進入到日常生活的原始設計當政策往全零的時候非客庄的店家擴大時那主委說明一下如何守住原本對客庄的重點支持 |
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客庄還是比較有大比例 客廳比例會使用合法 客廳比例在肚子的還是更少 所以我們評估在學生底部的點和營業 還是會更多因為時間關係 |
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請我們注意是不是針對客家幣2.0我大概提出四個要求就是一樣就是在1.0結束的一個月內是不是能夠提交檢討跟2.0的設計的對照報告還有我就要公佈我們的查核標準因為這是上路前應該明文規定一個你的密客的查核機制對方到底有沒有講客家法 |
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然後指標的獨立的拆分就是說把下一年度的預算當中把績效那個強制拆分為語言傳承的指標跟客庄的經濟指標不要混淆視聽還要釐清我們的工具的分工就客家幣跟客庄的產業價值的補助的一個角色跟排序跟分工好 謝謝 謝謝 |